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November 2006 discussion

Name issue

Hi; will email later. Just a quick note re a new post of mine at Talk:Pacific Northwest, trying to summarize; thought you might find it interesting, or would have something to add. Skookum1 23:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC) reply

deletion on talk page

no, no, you're deletion was totally valid. You explicitly asked users not to divert from the topic at hand and not to comment on other editors. I didn't read your instructions, so I didn't notice. I get along quite well with Skookum, but I've seen him tear strips off enough people that I thought I'd show some sympathy for the other guy, and encourage skookum to be a little more civil in the future. Still, it wasn't necessary, and may have had the opposite effect that I intended. thanks for moderating. -- TheMightyQuill 01:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC) reply

Actually, guys, I did track down your [deleted] debate after following clues; thing is people take me as insulting when I'm not trying to be; yeah, it's choice of language and tone, and there are things that do piss me off and I find insulting in various lines of argument/topic, and I'm not about to mince words in some cases (nor, as someone has commented about me in real life, do I "suffer fools gladly"). Even in regular conversation people think I'm lecturing or being arrogant when all I'm doing is answering a question (thoroughly); mind you it doesn't help that I'm 6'5" 250 lbs and people already have their backs up on meeting me (I look like a should be a logger/hockey player type, and I'm the exact opposite). So I'm not a big scary sasquatch, even though I get taken that way; I'm a big friendly-fuzzy sasquatch - with a sharp tongue. Old habits from UseNet die hard, too - which is where the never giving in/backing down comes from. I've actually mellowed with age ;-= Skookum1 02:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

I know from my own experience here that emotions can raise easily. Only recently a friend recommended a wikibreak, and I just switched my focus, which helped a lot. I'm not as tall as you are, but I have a natural furrow between my eyes which makes me look like I'm frowning, even when I'm not. That has caused some similar misunderstandings until someone was frank enough to tell me. — Sebastian 03:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

Cascadia edit

You're a brave man, that's all I can say. Cascadia has been lovingly worked over by Cascadia independence types for a while now; expect a reversion, and we'll see who weighs on on the Talk Page ;-) Skookum1 02:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your warning. Actually, I don't expect it. I did not disturb the movement part of the page but even fixed a bug with a picture and adjusted the layout. Moreover, someone who is an active part of the Cascadian movement participated in the discussion and agreed with the split. I think it's a win-win situation: They can work even more lovingly on the page without the interference of people who would rather see less about the movement on the Cascadia page. — Sebastian 03:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

A barnstar for you

The Original Barnstar
For bravery, boldness, civility, competence and superior mediation skills used while editing Pacific Northwest, Cascadia and related topics. Katr67 02:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC) reply

From AlexLinden

thanks - that's ok - I overlooked the word "service".

-Alex (19:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC))

Source of Satellite maps?

Wie geht's? Just curious, and I'm sure User:Qyd, who's in the BC WikiProject (and I think the Alberta one too as IIRC he's in Edmonton), would be very interested, as to what source it is you're getting the satellite views from. But one thing - they're very dark, even though I know I habitually have my screen turned up. I can fix that with PaintShop here, but I'm also wondering where the source is again....I think you told me once but I've been over a thousand other topics since. Just lately been working up the mountain-range hierarchy/lists for BC, which is very complex and needs lots of maps; there's the kind I built for items like Clear Range, Camelsfoot Range, Chilcotin Ranges, Cariboo Mountains, Cariboo Plateau etc, but I like the idea of the satellite basemap better; especially for e.g. Thompson Plateau or Nechako Plateau, where you can really see the landscape, instead of the coloured topo-relief. See, I think, Georgia Basin, for map I built off an altered EnviroCanada radar display (fair game, EnviroCan told me, not crown copyright). Oh by the way if it wasn't you I told, I have the entire province covered in grayscale ArcView "hillshade" topo, downloaded from a government site but I asked them and it's released as public domain to see what people do with it. Not the same as GEMS, which can also be used to build maps; based on GEMS/TRIM/STRIM topo data but meant to display as a relief. Ask me for a sample and I'll post one here....name a place (in BC). Wiederschauen und dank'! . Skookum1 09:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

PS been planning an article on the Coast Mountains Icecaps, not sure what to call it; they're the largest temperate-latitude icefields in the world (so far ;-0 ). Your sat-maps would be great illustrations; I've been trying to purge BC basemap-generated outlines of them so that they're 'mine' and so can be PD-self, but it's a lot of work and I'm not an artist....in a couple of cases, especially the Boundary Ranges, the satellite map seems preferable.... Skookum1 09:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your nice message! I have to disappoint you - the maps are not from me, I just cropped the picture from Image:North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg, and I'm not aware if we have any others. It would be awesome if you could work with Qyd on the PacNW map, I'm so impressed how he added links to images. Wouldn't that be cool, if you could click on "Coast Mountain", and it would lead you directly to that article?
You're right, the map could be brighter. Even more so when we want to write place names over it. I was hoping to combine this one with the one that shows different borders. The best place to discuss such improvements may be Image_talk:PacNW satellite.JPG. I'm sorry that I don't have no more time right now, I have to run to a meeting soon. Let me know where you'll discuss the image and I'll drop by! (BTW, I will probably move this mail to /Pacific Northwest soon; please add that to your watchlist.
As for me, I am currently focused on warmer climes, as a mediator in articles related to the conflict in Sri Lanka.
Happy new year, — Sebastian 21:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

I watchlisted your Pacific Northwest sandbox; you might want to watchlist mine - My BC and Pacific NW History Forum/Resource area, although I haven't done much to it for a while; same idea, resources and discussions..... Skookum1 21:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

(see reply)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

November 2006 discussion

Name issue

Hi; will email later. Just a quick note re a new post of mine at Talk:Pacific Northwest, trying to summarize; thought you might find it interesting, or would have something to add. Skookum1 23:38, 5 November 2006 (UTC) reply

deletion on talk page

no, no, you're deletion was totally valid. You explicitly asked users not to divert from the topic at hand and not to comment on other editors. I didn't read your instructions, so I didn't notice. I get along quite well with Skookum, but I've seen him tear strips off enough people that I thought I'd show some sympathy for the other guy, and encourage skookum to be a little more civil in the future. Still, it wasn't necessary, and may have had the opposite effect that I intended. thanks for moderating. -- TheMightyQuill 01:52, 8 November 2006 (UTC) reply

Actually, guys, I did track down your [deleted] debate after following clues; thing is people take me as insulting when I'm not trying to be; yeah, it's choice of language and tone, and there are things that do piss me off and I find insulting in various lines of argument/topic, and I'm not about to mince words in some cases (nor, as someone has commented about me in real life, do I "suffer fools gladly"). Even in regular conversation people think I'm lecturing or being arrogant when all I'm doing is answering a question (thoroughly); mind you it doesn't help that I'm 6'5" 250 lbs and people already have their backs up on meeting me (I look like a should be a logger/hockey player type, and I'm the exact opposite). So I'm not a big scary sasquatch, even though I get taken that way; I'm a big friendly-fuzzy sasquatch - with a sharp tongue. Old habits from UseNet die hard, too - which is where the never giving in/backing down comes from. I've actually mellowed with age ;-= Skookum1 02:47, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

I know from my own experience here that emotions can raise easily. Only recently a friend recommended a wikibreak, and I just switched my focus, which helped a lot. I'm not as tall as you are, but I have a natural furrow between my eyes which makes me look like I'm frowning, even when I'm not. That has caused some similar misunderstandings until someone was frank enough to tell me. — Sebastian 03:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

Cascadia edit

You're a brave man, that's all I can say. Cascadia has been lovingly worked over by Cascadia independence types for a while now; expect a reversion, and we'll see who weighs on on the Talk Page ;-) Skookum1 02:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your warning. Actually, I don't expect it. I did not disturb the movement part of the page but even fixed a bug with a picture and adjusted the layout. Moreover, someone who is an active part of the Cascadian movement participated in the discussion and agreed with the split. I think it's a win-win situation: They can work even more lovingly on the page without the interference of people who would rather see less about the movement on the Cascadia page. — Sebastian 03:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC) reply

A barnstar for you

The Original Barnstar
For bravery, boldness, civility, competence and superior mediation skills used while editing Pacific Northwest, Cascadia and related topics. Katr67 02:40, 13 November 2006 (UTC) reply

From AlexLinden

thanks - that's ok - I overlooked the word "service".

-Alex (19:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC))

Source of Satellite maps?

Wie geht's? Just curious, and I'm sure User:Qyd, who's in the BC WikiProject (and I think the Alberta one too as IIRC he's in Edmonton), would be very interested, as to what source it is you're getting the satellite views from. But one thing - they're very dark, even though I know I habitually have my screen turned up. I can fix that with PaintShop here, but I'm also wondering where the source is again....I think you told me once but I've been over a thousand other topics since. Just lately been working up the mountain-range hierarchy/lists for BC, which is very complex and needs lots of maps; there's the kind I built for items like Clear Range, Camelsfoot Range, Chilcotin Ranges, Cariboo Mountains, Cariboo Plateau etc, but I like the idea of the satellite basemap better; especially for e.g. Thompson Plateau or Nechako Plateau, where you can really see the landscape, instead of the coloured topo-relief. See, I think, Georgia Basin, for map I built off an altered EnviroCanada radar display (fair game, EnviroCan told me, not crown copyright). Oh by the way if it wasn't you I told, I have the entire province covered in grayscale ArcView "hillshade" topo, downloaded from a government site but I asked them and it's released as public domain to see what people do with it. Not the same as GEMS, which can also be used to build maps; based on GEMS/TRIM/STRIM topo data but meant to display as a relief. Ask me for a sample and I'll post one here....name a place (in BC). Wiederschauen und dank'! . Skookum1 09:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

PS been planning an article on the Coast Mountains Icecaps, not sure what to call it; they're the largest temperate-latitude icefields in the world (so far ;-0 ). Your sat-maps would be great illustrations; I've been trying to purge BC basemap-generated outlines of them so that they're 'mine' and so can be PD-self, but it's a lot of work and I'm not an artist....in a couple of cases, especially the Boundary Ranges, the satellite map seems preferable.... Skookum1 09:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

Thank you for your nice message! I have to disappoint you - the maps are not from me, I just cropped the picture from Image:North_America_satellite_orthographic.jpg, and I'm not aware if we have any others. It would be awesome if you could work with Qyd on the PacNW map, I'm so impressed how he added links to images. Wouldn't that be cool, if you could click on "Coast Mountain", and it would lead you directly to that article?
You're right, the map could be brighter. Even more so when we want to write place names over it. I was hoping to combine this one with the one that shows different borders. The best place to discuss such improvements may be Image_talk:PacNW satellite.JPG. I'm sorry that I don't have no more time right now, I have to run to a meeting soon. Let me know where you'll discuss the image and I'll drop by! (BTW, I will probably move this mail to /Pacific Northwest soon; please add that to your watchlist.
As for me, I am currently focused on warmer climes, as a mediator in articles related to the conflict in Sri Lanka.
Happy new year, — Sebastian 21:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

I watchlisted your Pacific Northwest sandbox; you might want to watchlist mine - My BC and Pacific NW History Forum/Resource area, although I haven't done much to it for a while; same idea, resources and discussions..... Skookum1 21:38, 5 January 2007 (UTC) reply

(see reply)

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