Hi, best to add messages to the end of a talk page, they can be overlooked at the top. The page you edited referred to the starling family. As far as I know, the behaviour described is only shown by the Common Starling, not the many others. The phenomenon is described there Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Hi, Interesting, although I haven't seen anything quite as large or complex as the youtube clips, I have, since childhood, observed what I called "bird games" when large flocks have split and gone in different directions and then reunited. I thought it a combination of hide & seek and tag. I live on Cape Ann in Massachusetts. Seabreezes1 ( talk) 21:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)Seabreezes1
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Saw your section on the talk page. To answer your question about what is going on; Martin had a PHD student and approved (mistakenly I suspect) her anti-vaccination PhD. The pro-vaccine mob are looking to punish all who publicly question vaccinations. Have tried BLPN, ANI and Oversight on the BLP violations and Disruptive Editing but got nowhere. Have asked other admins for intervention. But multiple BLP violations remain today. Guy is an admin and good at hand-waving and making many factually inaccurate statements. As far as I can see WP is very broken. (This is the second failure of WP to address BLP violations by "motivated" editors I've been a party to. The last invloved editor was eventually banned as a DE sockpuppeteer.) Strangely, I have no intention of putting more time into a broken system. Stay safe. 124.171.192.238 ( talk) 01:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. I, too, don't want to waste too much time on dealing with these trolls. It's too bad. In theory, Wikipedia is such a good idea, but in practice it's turning into a tool for those with sinister intent. Seabreezes1 ( talk) 23:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
AN/I: WP:Brian Martin (social scientist) : other editor is feeling stalked/harassed. And is also attacking me. Of course I will be bar-b-qued. Or minced. Guy isn't the fifth highest number of edits on WP through lack of experience. His smokescreens are sooo good. But anyway, bring chardonay as the baying mob will be dining al fresco. SmithBlue ( talk) 11:41, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Well isn't this interesting. Per instructions, I went to Ronz's talk page and I didn't really understand what was being attempted to be communicated about my two small edits. That comment was promptly erased. At issue, I had added a very factual comment with appropriate documentation that Mercola also supported fluoridation.
I also deleted the reference to an opinion piece that concerns about cellular or wireless technology being carcinogenic are pseudo science. I replaced with two 2017 authoritative validations of the carcinogenic and other harmful effects from current wireless technology.
This biography trashing Joseph Mercola seems to be well protected by those whose intention is to smear his reputation. So much for Wiki rules on biographies of living persons. Seabreezes1 ( talk) 20:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC) Seabreezes1 ( talk) 20:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you for reply, Very unfortunate that editing of Italian/US court case is accepted while my edit (of indian court got rejected). [2] I fully agree that astroturf and troll behavior does not suit Wikipedia. People nowadays quote Wikipedia pages in examinations and research papers as well. The chances of getting misdirected hence is huge. But I feel that we should focus more on what we can do rather than focusing on what we cannot do. Hence fill up the talk pages with all the requisite scientific, court case data. Of course aim is just information sharing rather than being biased in any way. Otherwise getting into the system(of wikipedia) and repairing it leads to more struggle,time and energy wastage. Thanks once again for corrective directions Ntu129 ( talk) 14:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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the misconception that Fauci is truthful and omnipotent is harming people"1) I would consider this a straw man, as no one has, in that article, to my knowledge, asserted that Fauci is omnipotent or immune from criticism. 2) This is your view, it is not the mainstream view in the best available most neutral reliable sources. Wikipedia is not meant to be "the truth" because there is always an unstated "truth according to X."To forego this entire thing, Wikipedia completely ignores the question of what is "true." Instead, it is only reporting what is the view of the best available, most widely read, most widely circulated, newspapers of record and secondary academic review articles published in topic-relevant journals. I am sorry to tell you, if you believe your view is the one that should be represented on Wikipedia, and all other views removed...despite the fact that the best available sources aren't portraying it in this way... Then you may not be here for the right reasons. Wikipedia regularly bans users who are not here to contribute according to the policies and guidelines.I would take a long hard look at your purpose and interests here on wikipedia. And determine if they align with the goals of the project. Continuing to push a POV narrative that is not supported by reliable sources could result in your account being blocked. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 22:51, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Shibbolethink I believe my original edit was mild and appropriate for a biography of a living person. I have also verified that The Intercept, Vanity Fair, and NY Times sources are considered to be generally reliable by Wiki, although Newsweek is only moderately reliable post 2013.
Lerner, Sharron (September 9 2021). “NIH Documents Provide New Evidence that U.S. Funded Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan.” The Intercept.
Eban, Katherine (October 22, 2021). "In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan". Vanity Fair.
Zimmer, Carl; Mueller, Benjamin (October 21, 2021). “Bat Research Group Failed to Submit Virus Studies Promptly, N.I.H. Says”. The New York Times.
I can revert to my original edit with the improved references, or I can publish more material with the same references. Although more data may be considered less appropriate for a Wiki bio, if you feel it is necessary to substantiate the facts, I'm willing to engage. Again, my purpose is to provide honest, accurate and factual data in Wiki:
Although many scientists voice concerns over the biosafety and oversight of P3CO research, Fauci continues to maintain that the chimeric virus used on humanized mice described in the EcoHealth report does not fit the definition of gain of function" This sentence is not encyclopedic, leaves out a a great deal of complexity of the issue, and is not verifiable to the sources. The consensus of the sources does not compare these two clauses (scientists concerned about oversight of P3CO & Fauci maintaining the experiment was not GoF) as related, but your edit does. That's synthesis. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 16:30, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
The "gain of function" edits on Fauci are not constructive today either. Please stop. – Muboshgu ( talk) 19:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
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Hi, Interesting, although I haven't seen anything quite as large or complex as the youtube clips, I have, since childhood, observed what I called "bird games" when large flocks have split and gone in different directions and then reunited. I thought it a combination of hide & seek and tag. I live on Cape Ann in Massachusetts. Seabreezes1 ( talk) 21:18, 9 November 2011 (UTC)Seabreezes1
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Have 'you' noticed that 'you' give full answers to points but the Multiple editors that 'own' this page -against Wikipedia policy only provide very short side-step arguments in an effort to put you on the back-foot again – in order that they can still own the article- against Wikipedia policy. A bit like them getting you to ascend every down going escalator, whilst they appear to be at the top and looking down at you all the time. Me thinks, that is a neat trick they are playing on you!-- Aspro ( talk) 13:43, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
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Saw your section on the talk page. To answer your question about what is going on; Martin had a PHD student and approved (mistakenly I suspect) her anti-vaccination PhD. The pro-vaccine mob are looking to punish all who publicly question vaccinations. Have tried BLPN, ANI and Oversight on the BLP violations and Disruptive Editing but got nowhere. Have asked other admins for intervention. But multiple BLP violations remain today. Guy is an admin and good at hand-waving and making many factually inaccurate statements. As far as I can see WP is very broken. (This is the second failure of WP to address BLP violations by "motivated" editors I've been a party to. The last invloved editor was eventually banned as a DE sockpuppeteer.) Strangely, I have no intention of putting more time into a broken system. Stay safe. 124.171.192.238 ( talk) 01:13, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
Thank you for your response. I, too, don't want to waste too much time on dealing with these trolls. It's too bad. In theory, Wikipedia is such a good idea, but in practice it's turning into a tool for those with sinister intent. Seabreezes1 ( talk) 23:02, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
AN/I: WP:Brian Martin (social scientist) : other editor is feeling stalked/harassed. And is also attacking me. Of course I will be bar-b-qued. Or minced. Guy isn't the fifth highest number of edits on WP through lack of experience. His smokescreens are sooo good. But anyway, bring chardonay as the baying mob will be dining al fresco. SmithBlue ( talk) 11:41, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
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Well isn't this interesting. Per instructions, I went to Ronz's talk page and I didn't really understand what was being attempted to be communicated about my two small edits. That comment was promptly erased. At issue, I had added a very factual comment with appropriate documentation that Mercola also supported fluoridation.
I also deleted the reference to an opinion piece that concerns about cellular or wireless technology being carcinogenic are pseudo science. I replaced with two 2017 authoritative validations of the carcinogenic and other harmful effects from current wireless technology.
This biography trashing Joseph Mercola seems to be well protected by those whose intention is to smear his reputation. So much for Wiki rules on biographies of living persons. Seabreezes1 ( talk) 20:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC) Seabreezes1 ( talk) 20:01, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
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Thank you for reply, Very unfortunate that editing of Italian/US court case is accepted while my edit (of indian court got rejected). [2] I fully agree that astroturf and troll behavior does not suit Wikipedia. People nowadays quote Wikipedia pages in examinations and research papers as well. The chances of getting misdirected hence is huge. But I feel that we should focus more on what we can do rather than focusing on what we cannot do. Hence fill up the talk pages with all the requisite scientific, court case data. Of course aim is just information sharing rather than being biased in any way. Otherwise getting into the system(of wikipedia) and repairing it leads to more struggle,time and energy wastage. Thanks once again for corrective directions Ntu129 ( talk) 14:02, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
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Hello, I'm Shibbolethink. I noticed that you made an edit concerning content related to a living (or recently deceased) person on Anthony Fauci, but you didn't support your changes with a citation to a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now. Wikipedia has a very strict policy concerning how we write about living people, so please help us keep such articles accurate and clear. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you! — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 19:35, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Seabreezes1 ( talk) 22:18, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
the misconception that Fauci is truthful and omnipotent is harming people"1) I would consider this a straw man, as no one has, in that article, to my knowledge, asserted that Fauci is omnipotent or immune from criticism. 2) This is your view, it is not the mainstream view in the best available most neutral reliable sources. Wikipedia is not meant to be "the truth" because there is always an unstated "truth according to X."To forego this entire thing, Wikipedia completely ignores the question of what is "true." Instead, it is only reporting what is the view of the best available, most widely read, most widely circulated, newspapers of record and secondary academic review articles published in topic-relevant journals. I am sorry to tell you, if you believe your view is the one that should be represented on Wikipedia, and all other views removed...despite the fact that the best available sources aren't portraying it in this way... Then you may not be here for the right reasons. Wikipedia regularly bans users who are not here to contribute according to the policies and guidelines.I would take a long hard look at your purpose and interests here on wikipedia. And determine if they align with the goals of the project. Continuing to push a POV narrative that is not supported by reliable sources could result in your account being blocked. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 22:51, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
Shibbolethink I believe my original edit was mild and appropriate for a biography of a living person. I have also verified that The Intercept, Vanity Fair, and NY Times sources are considered to be generally reliable by Wiki, although Newsweek is only moderately reliable post 2013.
Lerner, Sharron (September 9 2021). “NIH Documents Provide New Evidence that U.S. Funded Gain-of-Function Research in Wuhan.” The Intercept.
Eban, Katherine (October 22, 2021). "In Major Shift, NIH Admits Funding Risky Virus Research in Wuhan". Vanity Fair.
Zimmer, Carl; Mueller, Benjamin (October 21, 2021). “Bat Research Group Failed to Submit Virus Studies Promptly, N.I.H. Says”. The New York Times.
I can revert to my original edit with the improved references, or I can publish more material with the same references. Although more data may be considered less appropriate for a Wiki bio, if you feel it is necessary to substantiate the facts, I'm willing to engage. Again, my purpose is to provide honest, accurate and factual data in Wiki:
Although many scientists voice concerns over the biosafety and oversight of P3CO research, Fauci continues to maintain that the chimeric virus used on humanized mice described in the EcoHealth report does not fit the definition of gain of function" This sentence is not encyclopedic, leaves out a a great deal of complexity of the issue, and is not verifiable to the sources. The consensus of the sources does not compare these two clauses (scientists concerned about oversight of P3CO & Fauci maintaining the experiment was not GoF) as related, but your edit does. That's synthesis. — Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 16:30, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
The "gain of function" edits on Fauci are not constructive today either. Please stop. – Muboshgu ( talk) 19:57, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
I agreed to stop, but you had to call me a liar on my page? From the NY Times:
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