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Hello, Rsinclairgregg, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Radius Books, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your response on my talk page. Unfortunately, I don't have good news for you, and, also unfortunately, I don't have a lot of time right now to give you a detailed explanation of the problems.

It looks like no one has questioned, for several years, the fact that Radius has directly linked to the books in its catalogue from its Wikipedia article, which is quite inappropriate per WP:EL and WP:PROMO, apart from the fact that your internship is unpaid is not relevant to Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest policy. I don't want you to have to wait until I get a full 20-minute window of time to give you a detailed response, which I suspect will be well after the end of your workday in your time zone, so I'm going to see if User:Cullen328, User:scope_creep, or User:Bri are around to chime in (three names I just pulled out of my ears who are active with conflicts of interest and explaining same to new users). You can also ask these questions at WP:TEAHOUSE. However this works out, I do thank you, sincerely, for actually responding to my message, which is not something that happens very often and is commendable on your part! Best regards - Julietdeltalima (talk) 21:01, 11 June 2018 (UTC). reply

Yes, there is a clear conflict here: you are receiving something of value from the firm, your internship, and in exchange making edits to their Wikipedia page. Further you have stated that the purpose of the edits is to align the article with the firm's website. This is not okay and could be covered by WP:NOTADVERT and WP:NOTDIR principles, in addition to the EL and PROMO problems noted by Julietdeltalima. Wikipedia is not a mirror of their website, even in part, and does not exist for the firm's benefit. You are strongly discouraged from making edits for any entity with which you have a conflict. In this case we suggest individuals propose changes on the article's talkpage instead, and neutral third parties can consider the proposed edits. ☆ Bri ( talk) 21:07, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply


Proposed changes

Hi there,

Thank you for your response-- I am still new to this. I have deleted all the links to the company's website (radius books) I apologize for updating it, we had a few readers call us regarding the un-updated wikipedia page. I understand if everything must be deleted-- but would it be possible for a third party to look over the added titles and approve them? I followed your advice and made a post on Radius Book's Talk Page requesting the updates.

Again, there will no longer be any links to the website, only a factual addition regarding the new titles for the years 2016-2018.

Rsinclairgregg ( talk)

I see you made a request on the article talkpage; this is the right place. However, the request is poor because it doesn't provide any third party sources. In its current state the entire #Titles section should be deleted. Wikipedia isn't an indiscriminate collection of information but a collection of verifiable facts about subjects of encyclopedic note. ☆ Bri ( talk) 21:32, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply

I understand, thank you for explaining. I just added to the talk page a third party source: Artbook.com. If this is inappropriate I will look into more information. I appreciate your patience with me.

Artbook.com appears to be a bookseller and therefore is not an independent reliable source (note independent). ☆ Bri ( talk) 22:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply
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Welcome!

Hello, Rsinclairgregg, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Radius Books, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article. Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

To reduce the chances of your contributions being undone, you might like to draft your revised article before submission, and then ask me or another editor to proofread it. See our help page on userspace drafts for more details. If the page you created has already been deleted from Wikipedia, but you want to save the content from it to use for that draft, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page.

One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

In addition, if you receive, or expect to receive, compensation for any contribution you make, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation to comply with our terms our use and policy on paid editing.

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome! Julietdeltalima (talk) 20:18, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply

Thanks for your response on my talk page. Unfortunately, I don't have good news for you, and, also unfortunately, I don't have a lot of time right now to give you a detailed explanation of the problems.

It looks like no one has questioned, for several years, the fact that Radius has directly linked to the books in its catalogue from its Wikipedia article, which is quite inappropriate per WP:EL and WP:PROMO, apart from the fact that your internship is unpaid is not relevant to Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest policy. I don't want you to have to wait until I get a full 20-minute window of time to give you a detailed response, which I suspect will be well after the end of your workday in your time zone, so I'm going to see if User:Cullen328, User:scope_creep, or User:Bri are around to chime in (three names I just pulled out of my ears who are active with conflicts of interest and explaining same to new users). You can also ask these questions at WP:TEAHOUSE. However this works out, I do thank you, sincerely, for actually responding to my message, which is not something that happens very often and is commendable on your part! Best regards - Julietdeltalima (talk) 21:01, 11 June 2018 (UTC). reply

Yes, there is a clear conflict here: you are receiving something of value from the firm, your internship, and in exchange making edits to their Wikipedia page. Further you have stated that the purpose of the edits is to align the article with the firm's website. This is not okay and could be covered by WP:NOTADVERT and WP:NOTDIR principles, in addition to the EL and PROMO problems noted by Julietdeltalima. Wikipedia is not a mirror of their website, even in part, and does not exist for the firm's benefit. You are strongly discouraged from making edits for any entity with which you have a conflict. In this case we suggest individuals propose changes on the article's talkpage instead, and neutral third parties can consider the proposed edits. ☆ Bri ( talk) 21:07, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply


Proposed changes

Hi there,

Thank you for your response-- I am still new to this. I have deleted all the links to the company's website (radius books) I apologize for updating it, we had a few readers call us regarding the un-updated wikipedia page. I understand if everything must be deleted-- but would it be possible for a third party to look over the added titles and approve them? I followed your advice and made a post on Radius Book's Talk Page requesting the updates.

Again, there will no longer be any links to the website, only a factual addition regarding the new titles for the years 2016-2018.

Rsinclairgregg ( talk)

I see you made a request on the article talkpage; this is the right place. However, the request is poor because it doesn't provide any third party sources. In its current state the entire #Titles section should be deleted. Wikipedia isn't an indiscriminate collection of information but a collection of verifiable facts about subjects of encyclopedic note. ☆ Bri ( talk) 21:32, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply

I understand, thank you for explaining. I just added to the talk page a third party source: Artbook.com. If this is inappropriate I will look into more information. I appreciate your patience with me.

Artbook.com appears to be a bookseller and therefore is not an independent reliable source (note independent). ☆ Bri ( talk) 22:30, 11 June 2018 (UTC) reply

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