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Hi, Ronhjones. Regarding this, why did you think I had insufficiently warned the editor? As seen on the editor's talk page, I first templated the editor. I then made a non-template comment to the editor about editing problematically. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 14:18, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
I see a couple of instances where Ronbot has modified a {{ Orphaned non-free revisions}} template with "human=yes" multiple times. See File:The Simpsons season 18.png, and File:The Dark Tower teaser poster.jpg for couple of examples. I'm guessing this should not be happening. -- Whpq ( talk) 04:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Ronhjones, another editor requested this task be re-disabled, I've done it pending additional review. Feel free to revert me if approriate. AN link: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Please_disable_User:Theo.27s_Little_Bot_task_1. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 14:54, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
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23:29, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
Your bot kept one old revision. Should we keep a list of these exceptions somewhere? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 20:10, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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ASCII character set.Hi Ron. I have written a database query that looks for oversized, non-free bitmap (i.e. exceeding 450x450) images. The results are available here. Thought this might helpful to your work. Regards, FASTILY 08:01, 16 August 2017 (UTC)
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18:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
I believe I missed you at WP:AIV, where I filed a report for this school IP address' recent edits for vandalism. Would you mind blocking it? Thank you. 73.96.114.184 ( talk) 22:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Ronhjones. I was wondering if you could please look into this editor - 67.165.17.94 - due to their constant disruptive editing? They have been disruptively adding material either without citations or ones that do not support their claims, while constantly replacing their information whenever other editors remove it, without any explanation (other than claiming its correct) nor any attempt at any discussion. Here are two examples of pages they have been disruptively editing The Left (Germany) and Alliance 90/The Greens. I would greatly appreciate if you could please look into this. Thank you for your time. Helper201 ( talk) 22:38, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey there! I just re-launched the WikiProject Investment.
The site has been fully revamped and updated and I would like to invite you the project.
Feel free to check out the project and ping me if you have any questions.
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Hello.
I ran into File:Desktop App Installer.png today. It is downsized so badly that it is of no use. But if you could recover its former revision, I could probably crop black spaces from it and then downsize it in way that it remains informative.
Best regards,
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Hi!
Could you be kind enough to let me revive the
SafeSquid page?
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for blocking the user. I appreciate your work of administration. Keep it up!! You deserve 5 such barnstars for your interest in showing great efficiency in adminship. Thanks. SahabAli wadia 10:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC) |
Because your system has no notifications, I did not spot that any of these were reduced with their originals deleted until way after the fact. Please revert -
Reg full protection of this, just want to let you know that one side is a sock of this, I've blocked an account and an ip in the past few hours. cheers. — Spaceman Spiff 00:41, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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22:10, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
You tagged this as non-free reduce but actually US law applied at this time. So can you please restore the higher resolution before moving it to the commons? Thanks. ww2censor ( talk) 21:05, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi! @Rohnjones I noticed that you increased the protection level of
Indian Administrative Service to prevent disruptive editing/edit warring. However, in my opinion, the current protection level is too high (even though it's time bound), and limits the no. of potential editors to a select few. So, can you reduce the protection level, to say, extended confirmed or autoconfirmed?
Regards, SshibumXZ
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Do you mind if I unblock this IP? It looks like the AIV report was based on an edit filter hit for a specific banned editor (BKFIP). This isn't him - it's a false positive. The normal user if that IP has made a request on my talk page. Kuru (talk) 22:22, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello
I made a discovery today: File:Altacast Main Window.png is actually a free image. It was mislabeled as non-free.
I was wondering if you could undelete its original larger revision, please.
Thanks.
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User:RonBot has not made any edits or log entries this month. Is there something wrong? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 11:58, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
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22:15, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
Your reduced version of the file seems to be broken: the bottom half of the image is missing. I'd suggest reverting and re-reducing. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 21:06, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello Ronhjones, I've uploaded a logo but the background of the image is not fitting for Wiki standards. I don't know who else to ask, so I'm asking you. Could you fix the background of this logo and give it the proper background. That would be really nice. Thank you in advance. Akocsg ( talk) 15:05, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: Yes it's supposed to be clear, like the other logos in similar articles. If the size is a problem, you can adjust that too. Akocsg ( talk) 15:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: Great. Thank you very much. Akocsg ( talk) 22:35, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
I have noticed a minor issue though. If you compare it for instance with this logo, than you can see that the background is different. It makes the background in the actual article unseen. The logo of Fenerbahce shows the white background in the article. Can you fix that? Akocsg ( talk) 01:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: All right. Please inform me of the result. Akocsg ( talk) 12:50, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: Thank you very much. Akocsg ( talk) 19:12, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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19:16, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Was this supposed to be an escalating block duration? Regards. 174.135.40.152 ( talk) 00:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks for reducing the images I uploaded. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 02:20, 14 September 2017 (UTC) |
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.
Hello, Ron.
How do you do?
Several Wikipedia articles ( Windows XP, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Windows XP Media Center Edition, Windows Server 2003, Windows CE 5.0) are currently devoid of a logo, even though they had one in the past. Someone thought the logo used on them was free and moved them to Commons. The Commons admins, however, didn't agree with that person and deleted the logo. (Well, actually, logos. Many of them. They did a thorough job of reading the copyright laws very loosely!) And now, there is no appropriate logos, neither on Commons nor on Wikipedia.
I was wondering if you could help return to the NFCC-approved status. File:Windows logo - 2002.svg, if undeleted, can be used for all these articles.
Can you help with that?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
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Your new uploads to File:Ajax Amsterdam (1900–1928).gif and File:Freelang.gif seem to have broken the files. At least on my computer, the new uploads are completely black, so I reverted you. Any idea why you uploaded black files? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 18:59, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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15:32, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Ron, I was wondering if you would be able to tell me if the original file uploaded at File:University of Virginia seal.svg is the same (excluding the colors) as the current version? Another user and I are having a debate on which seal to use and I wanted to to use this information when I discuss it with him (since how he is the original uploader of this file). Thanks, Corkythe hornetfan (ping me) 14:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Should the template sort GIF files into the bot category now, or do you still need them to be in the manual category for some time? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 19:56, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi.
I was wondering if you could restore the previously deleted revision of File:Mac OS X Messages screenshot.png. I intend to do a higher quality work of downsizing it.
Thanks.
Best regards,
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Hi Ron, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh 666 21:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Ron, You've recently flagging some of my photos as copyright violations presumably because you backwards image searched them and they came up on panoramio. Those photos you found on panoramio are also my photos. The account is lebagelboy (adam L) which was a nickname I had back in school. Is there anyway I can prove these photos are mine so they don't get removed from wikipedia? I'd like to keep them freely available for people to use if possible.
Regards,
Adam
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16:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
You might find this useful:- https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/18908
It was a query to find very large non-free files, something you seem to be doing plenty of work on. ShakespeareFan00 ( talk) 21:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm also running a database report tracking files of size < 450x450: Wikipedia:Database reports/Large fair-use images. - FASTILY 22:39, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Ronhjones, you recently tagged File:PicassoGuernica.jpg for image size reduction and a couple of hours later a bot reduced the size. The larger revision's size was already a reduced size that had previously been quite carefully considered at Wikipedia:Non-free content review and subsequently at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Would you consider reverting to the revision before you tagged it for size reduction? — RP88 ( talk) 09:30, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi. An image I created and uploaded was deleted (File:Diagram of selected characters in the novel Doctor Zhivago by Pasternak.jpg). You posted it for discussion on September 9 then someone else deleted it after zero discussion. I had put a detailed fair use analysis in the appropriate fields underneath the image, and it had been on WP for 2+ years. Can you please see that it is restored, or, if not, provide an explanation for the deletion? Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 18:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the input. When I uploaded the image long ago, my understanding was that when I did so I was granting a CC license to the image automatically, which I was happy to do. Did I get that wrong? (This is the only image I have uploaded, so I am a novice.) I did not describe it as a free image because in my view Pasternak is a joint author under copyright law. I would argue that plot summaries on WP are jointly authored works as well, and they are permissible because of fair use, not because they are public domain/free. So that's why I didn't designate my image as PD: instead, it was CC-licensed with respect to my contributions, and fair use with respect to whatever portions are attributable to Pasternak. I am also happy to try to reduce the image size. It may be readable at a much lower pixel count -- when I uploaded it, I didn't think pixel size would be an issue (a topic I addressed in my fair use rationale). So what would be the best way forward? Should I try to reduce the pixel count, then re-upload? What is the guideline number for pixel count? Cheers, Drochtegang ( talk) 19:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC) Sorry, I realized I was a bit sloppy in my terminology in my previous post. I shouldn't have said I was a "joint author" because that requires both authors to intend that their work be combined, which obviously wasn't the case here. Instead, I should have said that my diagram (and WP plot summaries as well) are unlicensed derivative works. Apart from that terminology, though, the rest of the analysis remains the same. Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 19:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi again. In the U.S. (and I'm confident in most other countries as well), copyright protects derivative works, which are defined as any work "based upon one or more preexisting works", including an "abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted." (17 USC 101 & 106) A plot summary on a WP page is a work "based upon" another work. The same is true of my diagram: it is a work based upon a pre-existing work (i.e. the novel Doctor Zhivago). Without Pasternak's creative expression, my diagram would be blank. I contributed expression by selecting some (but not all) of the characters, selecting some of the relationships between those characters, selecting certain types of relationships (sibling, patient, etc), selecting the colors of the connecting lines, arranging the names by generation, selecting the fonts, arranging the relationships in groups by generation, and so on. I am therefore the author of the derivative work but as I mentioned above, I of course do not have a license from the owner of the copyright in the novel (Pasternak, or whoever now owns the copyright). I therefore don't think I have the right to put the entire work under a CC-BY-SA license: I am only entitled to license the rights that I own. (Similarly, if someone claims to put a CC-BY-SA license on a plot summary, they are licensing something they only own part of, no?) And if fair use isn't allowed on WP, then why did WP require that I fill out several question fields underneath my image? Those questions seemed clearly designed to elicit a fair use rationale (portion of original taken (in my case, well below 1%), alternatives available etc.), and would be unnecessary if I owned all the rights. Perhaps it would help if you could direct me to a WP guideline that says no fair use is allowed on WP. (And btw I tried reducing the image, and you are right: the lowest it seems I can go without distortion is about 1.3M pixels, so that route won't work.) Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 22:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi. It is true that under US copyright law, "facts" are not copyrightable (but the "expression" of those facts is copyrightable). Additionally, some expression may be so bare-bones that it "merges" with the fact itself and thus becomes uncopyrightable: for example, I would say that one is free to copy the sentence "the population of New York City is 9 million people." However, generally speaking, courts have not accepted the argument that character names etc. in a book are "facts" for purposes of copyright law. Coincidentally, this argument was raised quite recently in a case in New York (on Sept. 7, 2017), and a federal judge rejected it. In that case, a publisher had issued very simplified versions of classic novels (including "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Breakfast at Tiffany's"), for children, without a license from the owners of the copyrights in the original novels. One argument raised by the publisher was "that the characters, plots, and settings in plaintiffs' Novels are merely 'a collection of made-up facts' or 'fictional facts,' and, since (historical or independently-existing) facts are not protected, these elements are not aspects of 'an author's original expression' subject to copyright.'" The judge rejected that argument, and cited some of the relevant cases: "This exercise in sophistry, however, which confuses the difference between historical or independently-existing facts and fictional details created by a novelist, finds no support in applicable law. As the Second Circuit has clearly stated, 'characters and events' that 'spring from the imagination' of authors are copyrightable, creative expression. See Castle Rock, 150 F.3d at 139. Thus, the Copyright Act protects both the literal text describing, for example, Dr. Bowman and HAL, and the 'made-up facts' about Dr. Bowman and HAL. 'Unlike the facts in a phone book, which do not owe their origin to an act of authorship,' each 'fact' in defendants' Guides is really 'fictitious expression' created by plaintiffs' authors. Castle Rock, 150 F.3d at 139. Because the 'characters and events' in defendants' Guides 'spring from the imagination," Capote, Hemingway, Kerouac, and Clarke, each Guide 'plainly copies copyrightable, creative expression.' Id. (citing Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Tel. Serv. Co., 499 U.S. 340, 347 (1991)) (discussing the distinction between 'discovered facts,' which do not 'owe their origin to an act of authorship' and thus are not protected by copyright, and 'created facts,' which constitute original, protected expression).'" The case is Penguin Random House v. Colting and you can find all of this at pages 11-12 here: https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/nysd/467693/53-0.html. A federal court reached the same result in 2008 when someone published a "Harry Potter Lexicon" that went into great detail: see http://www.dmlp.org/blog/2008/judge-rejects-fair-use-defense-harry-potter-lexicon-case-jk-rowling-recovers-her-plums. However, it is important to note that court stated that "reference guides to works of literature should generally be encouraged by copyright law as they provide a benefit readers and students," and "certainly, the Lexicon must be permitted to refer to an object by its invented name and describe some of its invented attributes to fulfill its purpose as a reference work." The reason the defendant lost was solely because the defendant took too many direct passages from the original Harry Potter books. See pages 54-62 here: http://www.dmlp.org/sites/citmedialaw.org/files/2008-09-08-Rowling%20Decision.pdf. It should be noted that when the judge said that reference guides should be encouraged, this was in his discussion of fair use. There is no statutory exception in U.S. copyright law that would cover them. So, back to my diagram: I think it is quite clear that it is a "reference guide" that would be very helpful to readers and students. I also think it takes an absolute minimum from the original, using only proper names and bare-bones descriptions of selected relationships (unlike the guides at issue in the Harry Potter Lexicon case or the children's adaptations case). In my original fair use justification attached to the image, I estimated that all of the information, if written out in narrative form, would consume perhaps 3 pages, and this is half a percent of the 600-page novel. I read on this page that fair use is not allowed on Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Fair_use. But it also says "You may, however, submit such images to your local wiki, if it allows fair use." I don't know my way around the Wiki ecosystem well enough to know what that means. Is there a way I can re-upload the image for the U.S. Wikipedia only? (I will, by the way, reduce the size by about 55% this time.) Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 03:35, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
I created this image in Google Drawings (part of the Google Docs suite). I checked just now and Drawings does appear to offer a download function in .svg format. Regarding the de minimis defense: I agree that should be considered as well. I had chosen fair use because of this hypothetical: a novelist copies all 45 or so names in the diagram (verbatim) from Doctor Zhivago, for characters in a new novel, and replicates the 75 or so relationships in the diagram as well. For example, a character named Yuri Andreevich Zhivago has a friend named Mikhail Grigorievich Gordon, and also has a half-brother whose name is Evgraf Andreevich Zhivago, who is the illegitimate son of someone named Princess Sotlbunova-Enrizzi, and so on. In that case, I think a copyright holder might be able to get past a de minimis defense, even if only the names and relationships were taken. A court might find a colorable case of "comprehensive non-literal similarity" even if the setting and plot of the second novel were significantly different from the first novel. The defendant would be in the position of arguing that "the relationships between all the major characters are insignificant to the structure of the book." But the more complete defenses, the better! So please advise -- should I try to create and upload a SVG version? Thanks. Drochtegang ( talk) 21:36, 27 September 2017 (UTC) (Or I suppose it could be "fragmented literal similarity" instead. Either way, potentially more than de minimis when we are talking 45 characters, I would think.) Drochtegang ( talk) 21:47, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, sounds like a good plan. I tried SVG just now and it looks great. Drochtegang ( talk) 22:12, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the input, Thincat. I agree that the diagram contains the same info that would be in a long list of names and relationships, and I also agree that it probably would have been uncontroversial if I had uploaded that list instead. Just for the record (and to further bolster the fair use case), the reason I chose to present the information in diagram form is that I believe it is much more useful for a reader than a two-page-long list: the information can be absorbed much more quickly. The diagram is also much more compact than a list would be: if a character is part of, say, five relationships, the character's name need not be repeated five times, as it would be in a narrative list. Finally, I think I would have gotten complaints for adding too long a list to the Doctor Zhivago page. My problem at this point is that I'm not comfortable declaring I am the sole author (and thus entitled to dedicate it to the PD or put a CC license on it). Drochtegang ( talk) 16:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I uploaded the SVG version here: /info/en/?search=File:Diagram_of_selected_relationships_in_Doctor_Zhivago_(novel).svg. I included the fair use rationale in the appropriate fields. I then added the diagram back into its original place on the page /info/en/?search=Doctor_Zhivago_(novel). So I think we're back to where we started, but this time with a SVG file, which I hope is much lighter. Now just this morning, I got a message that a bot had marked the old version of the image for deletion because it was an orphan. I assume that bot will leave me alone now because you will delete the old version again, and the bot won't bother me about the new image because it is linked to the article. But there is still the issue of the bot that didn't like the non-free aspect of the image. Is there some way you can flag the image as OK now, so I don't have to go through this process again? Cheers, Drochtegang ( talk) 19:44, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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23:25, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Per: your request I have altered the size of the vectored file in question to 288 × 551 pixels, with the reduced file size now at 5 KB. Please let me know if there are any other adjustments that need to be made to the file for it to become acceptable. Thank you for your help. —Spintendo Talk 21:18, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
I think these images should be un-resized. I would argue that due to the poor resizing (namely, lack of interpolation), the text is made utterly illegible (especially in the case of File:NortonCommanderWin.png). One would have to already be familiar with the program in order to recognize the image, which in my view defeats the purpose of having an image in the first place. Additionally, I would argue that the poor quality of the image (especially in the case of File:NortonCommanderWin.png) actively "tarnishes and misrepresents" the program, by portraying it as having poor quality text to the degree of being entirely unusable as a file explorer. If the images cannot be restored to their original resolution, I think they should be removed from the article and deleted, as in their present state, they actively detract from the quality of the article. ⁓ Hello 71 02:30, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
This question is out of curiosity more than anything; I don't really care either way about the image these days (in fact, I'd forgotten it was on my watchlist!). I see it was tagged for reduction, so I'm wondering if its prior reduction (albeit 8 years ago so things have probably changed) just wasn't enough? - Purplewowies ( talk) 01:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Regarding this edit, can you please explain what exact NFCC size guideline this apparently violates and what exactly is the NFCC size guideline? This image is 500 × 359. What exact dimensions does NFCC require for this image to be NFCC? -- Oakshade ( talk) 20:00, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Is this good? Artix ( Message wall) 15:28, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
You tagged this for reduction. Are you sure that it is unfree? It seems to have been created by British Rail, so maybe it counts as a government work? In that case, it's {{ PD-UKGov}}. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 22:31, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
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Hi, Ronhjones. Regarding this, why did you think I had insufficiently warned the editor? As seen on the editor's talk page, I first templated the editor. I then made a non-template comment to the editor about editing problematically. Flyer22 Reborn ( talk) 14:18, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
I see a couple of instances where Ronbot has modified a {{ Orphaned non-free revisions}} template with "human=yes" multiple times. See File:The Simpsons season 18.png, and File:The Dark Tower teaser poster.jpg for couple of examples. I'm guessing this should not be happening. -- Whpq ( talk) 04:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi Ronhjones, another editor requested this task be re-disabled, I've done it pending additional review. Feel free to revert me if approriate. AN link: Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Please_disable_User:Theo.27s_Little_Bot_task_1. Best regards, — xaosflux Talk 14:54, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
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Your bot kept one old revision. Should we keep a list of these exceptions somewhere? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 20:10, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
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18:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
I believe I missed you at WP:AIV, where I filed a report for this school IP address' recent edits for vandalism. Would you mind blocking it? Thank you. 73.96.114.184 ( talk) 22:27, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi, Ronhjones. I was wondering if you could please look into this editor - 67.165.17.94 - due to their constant disruptive editing? They have been disruptively adding material either without citations or ones that do not support their claims, while constantly replacing their information whenever other editors remove it, without any explanation (other than claiming its correct) nor any attempt at any discussion. Here are two examples of pages they have been disruptively editing The Left (Germany) and Alliance 90/The Greens. I would greatly appreciate if you could please look into this. Thank you for your time. Helper201 ( talk) 22:38, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
Hey there! I just re-launched the WikiProject Investment.
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Feel free to check out the project and ping me if you have any questions.
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Hello.
I ran into File:Desktop App Installer.png today. It is downsized so badly that it is of no use. But if you could recover its former revision, I could probably crop black spaces from it and then downsize it in way that it remains informative.
Best regards,
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Hi!
Could you be kind enough to let me revive the
SafeSquid page?
Thanks in advance
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Thanks for blocking the user. I appreciate your work of administration. Keep it up!! You deserve 5 such barnstars for your interest in showing great efficiency in adminship. Thanks. SahabAli wadia 10:02, 25 August 2017 (UTC) |
Because your system has no notifications, I did not spot that any of these were reduced with their originals deleted until way after the fact. Please revert -
Reg full protection of this, just want to let you know that one side is a sock of this, I've blocked an account and an ip in the past few hours. cheers. — Spaceman Spiff 00:41, 27 August 2017 (UTC)
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22:10, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
You tagged this as non-free reduce but actually US law applied at this time. So can you please restore the higher resolution before moving it to the commons? Thanks. ww2censor ( talk) 21:05, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Hi! @Rohnjones I noticed that you increased the protection level of
Indian Administrative Service to prevent disruptive editing/edit warring. However, in my opinion, the current protection level is too high (even though it's time bound), and limits the no. of potential editors to a select few. So, can you reduce the protection level, to say, extended confirmed or autoconfirmed?
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Do you mind if I unblock this IP? It looks like the AIV report was based on an edit filter hit for a specific banned editor (BKFIP). This isn't him - it's a false positive. The normal user if that IP has made a request on my talk page. Kuru (talk) 22:22, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
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I made a discovery today: File:Altacast Main Window.png is actually a free image. It was mislabeled as non-free.
I was wondering if you could undelete its original larger revision, please.
Thanks.
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22:15, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
Your reduced version of the file seems to be broken: the bottom half of the image is missing. I'd suggest reverting and re-reducing. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 21:06, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
Hello Ronhjones, I've uploaded a logo but the background of the image is not fitting for Wiki standards. I don't know who else to ask, so I'm asking you. Could you fix the background of this logo and give it the proper background. That would be really nice. Thank you in advance. Akocsg ( talk) 15:05, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: Yes it's supposed to be clear, like the other logos in similar articles. If the size is a problem, you can adjust that too. Akocsg ( talk) 15:18, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: Great. Thank you very much. Akocsg ( talk) 22:35, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
I have noticed a minor issue though. If you compare it for instance with this logo, than you can see that the background is different. It makes the background in the actual article unseen. The logo of Fenerbahce shows the white background in the article. Can you fix that? Akocsg ( talk) 01:09, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: All right. Please inform me of the result. Akocsg ( talk) 12:50, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
@ Ronhjones: Thank you very much. Akocsg ( talk) 19:12, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
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19:16, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
Was this supposed to be an escalating block duration? Regards. 174.135.40.152 ( talk) 00:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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Thanks for reducing the images I uploaded. WikiOriginal-9 ( talk) 02:20, 14 September 2017 (UTC) |
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved.
Hello, Ron.
How do you do?
Several Wikipedia articles ( Windows XP, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Windows XP Media Center Edition, Windows Server 2003, Windows CE 5.0) are currently devoid of a logo, even though they had one in the past. Someone thought the logo used on them was free and moved them to Commons. The Commons admins, however, didn't agree with that person and deleted the logo. (Well, actually, logos. Many of them. They did a thorough job of reading the copyright laws very loosely!) And now, there is no appropriate logos, neither on Commons nor on Wikipedia.
I was wondering if you could help return to the NFCC-approved status. File:Windows logo - 2002.svg, if undeleted, can be used for all these articles.
Can you help with that?
Thanks in advance.
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Your new uploads to File:Ajax Amsterdam (1900–1928).gif and File:Freelang.gif seem to have broken the files. At least on my computer, the new uploads are completely black, so I reverted you. Any idea why you uploaded black files? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 18:59, 15 September 2017 (UTC)
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15:32, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Ron, I was wondering if you would be able to tell me if the original file uploaded at File:University of Virginia seal.svg is the same (excluding the colors) as the current version? Another user and I are having a debate on which seal to use and I wanted to to use this information when I discuss it with him (since how he is the original uploader of this file). Thanks, Corkythe hornetfan (ping me) 14:23, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Should the template sort GIF files into the bot category now, or do you still need them to be in the manual category for some time? -- Stefan2 ( talk) 19:56, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi.
I was wondering if you could restore the previously deleted revision of File:Mac OS X Messages screenshot.png. I intend to do a higher quality work of downsizing it.
Thanks.
Best regards,
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Hi Ron, thank you for your comments at my RfA. Your support is much appreciated! ansh 666 21:50, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi Ron, You've recently flagging some of my photos as copyright violations presumably because you backwards image searched them and they came up on panoramio. Those photos you found on panoramio are also my photos. The account is lebagelboy (adam L) which was a nickname I had back in school. Is there anyway I can prove these photos are mine so they don't get removed from wikipedia? I'd like to keep them freely available for people to use if possible.
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16:00, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
You might find this useful:- https://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/18908
It was a query to find very large non-free files, something you seem to be doing plenty of work on. ShakespeareFan00 ( talk) 21:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm also running a database report tracking files of size < 450x450: Wikipedia:Database reports/Large fair-use images. - FASTILY 22:39, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Ronhjones, you recently tagged File:PicassoGuernica.jpg for image size reduction and a couple of hours later a bot reduced the size. The larger revision's size was already a reduced size that had previously been quite carefully considered at Wikipedia:Non-free content review and subsequently at Wikipedia:Files for discussion. Would you consider reverting to the revision before you tagged it for size reduction? — RP88 ( talk) 09:30, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi. An image I created and uploaded was deleted (File:Diagram of selected characters in the novel Doctor Zhivago by Pasternak.jpg). You posted it for discussion on September 9 then someone else deleted it after zero discussion. I had put a detailed fair use analysis in the appropriate fields underneath the image, and it had been on WP for 2+ years. Can you please see that it is restored, or, if not, provide an explanation for the deletion? Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 18:28, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for the input. When I uploaded the image long ago, my understanding was that when I did so I was granting a CC license to the image automatically, which I was happy to do. Did I get that wrong? (This is the only image I have uploaded, so I am a novice.) I did not describe it as a free image because in my view Pasternak is a joint author under copyright law. I would argue that plot summaries on WP are jointly authored works as well, and they are permissible because of fair use, not because they are public domain/free. So that's why I didn't designate my image as PD: instead, it was CC-licensed with respect to my contributions, and fair use with respect to whatever portions are attributable to Pasternak. I am also happy to try to reduce the image size. It may be readable at a much lower pixel count -- when I uploaded it, I didn't think pixel size would be an issue (a topic I addressed in my fair use rationale). So what would be the best way forward? Should I try to reduce the pixel count, then re-upload? What is the guideline number for pixel count? Cheers, Drochtegang ( talk) 19:12, 25 September 2017 (UTC) Sorry, I realized I was a bit sloppy in my terminology in my previous post. I shouldn't have said I was a "joint author" because that requires both authors to intend that their work be combined, which obviously wasn't the case here. Instead, I should have said that my diagram (and WP plot summaries as well) are unlicensed derivative works. Apart from that terminology, though, the rest of the analysis remains the same. Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 19:48, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi again. In the U.S. (and I'm confident in most other countries as well), copyright protects derivative works, which are defined as any work "based upon one or more preexisting works", including an "abridgment, condensation, or any other form in which a work may be recast, transformed, or adapted." (17 USC 101 & 106) A plot summary on a WP page is a work "based upon" another work. The same is true of my diagram: it is a work based upon a pre-existing work (i.e. the novel Doctor Zhivago). Without Pasternak's creative expression, my diagram would be blank. I contributed expression by selecting some (but not all) of the characters, selecting some of the relationships between those characters, selecting certain types of relationships (sibling, patient, etc), selecting the colors of the connecting lines, arranging the names by generation, selecting the fonts, arranging the relationships in groups by generation, and so on. I am therefore the author of the derivative work but as I mentioned above, I of course do not have a license from the owner of the copyright in the novel (Pasternak, or whoever now owns the copyright). I therefore don't think I have the right to put the entire work under a CC-BY-SA license: I am only entitled to license the rights that I own. (Similarly, if someone claims to put a CC-BY-SA license on a plot summary, they are licensing something they only own part of, no?) And if fair use isn't allowed on WP, then why did WP require that I fill out several question fields underneath my image? Those questions seemed clearly designed to elicit a fair use rationale (portion of original taken (in my case, well below 1%), alternatives available etc.), and would be unnecessary if I owned all the rights. Perhaps it would help if you could direct me to a WP guideline that says no fair use is allowed on WP. (And btw I tried reducing the image, and you are right: the lowest it seems I can go without distortion is about 1.3M pixels, so that route won't work.) Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 22:32, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
Hi. It is true that under US copyright law, "facts" are not copyrightable (but the "expression" of those facts is copyrightable). Additionally, some expression may be so bare-bones that it "merges" with the fact itself and thus becomes uncopyrightable: for example, I would say that one is free to copy the sentence "the population of New York City is 9 million people." However, generally speaking, courts have not accepted the argument that character names etc. in a book are "facts" for purposes of copyright law. Coincidentally, this argument was raised quite recently in a case in New York (on Sept. 7, 2017), and a federal judge rejected it. In that case, a publisher had issued very simplified versions of classic novels (including "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Breakfast at Tiffany's"), for children, without a license from the owners of the copyrights in the original novels. One argument raised by the publisher was "that the characters, plots, and settings in plaintiffs' Novels are merely 'a collection of made-up facts' or 'fictional facts,' and, since (historical or independently-existing) facts are not protected, these elements are not aspects of 'an author's original expression' subject to copyright.'" The judge rejected that argument, and cited some of the relevant cases: "This exercise in sophistry, however, which confuses the difference between historical or independently-existing facts and fictional details created by a novelist, finds no support in applicable law. As the Second Circuit has clearly stated, 'characters and events' that 'spring from the imagination' of authors are copyrightable, creative expression. See Castle Rock, 150 F.3d at 139. Thus, the Copyright Act protects both the literal text describing, for example, Dr. Bowman and HAL, and the 'made-up facts' about Dr. Bowman and HAL. 'Unlike the facts in a phone book, which do not owe their origin to an act of authorship,' each 'fact' in defendants' Guides is really 'fictitious expression' created by plaintiffs' authors. Castle Rock, 150 F.3d at 139. Because the 'characters and events' in defendants' Guides 'spring from the imagination," Capote, Hemingway, Kerouac, and Clarke, each Guide 'plainly copies copyrightable, creative expression.' Id. (citing Feist Publications, Inc. v. Rural Tel. Serv. Co., 499 U.S. 340, 347 (1991)) (discussing the distinction between 'discovered facts,' which do not 'owe their origin to an act of authorship' and thus are not protected by copyright, and 'created facts,' which constitute original, protected expression).'" The case is Penguin Random House v. Colting and you can find all of this at pages 11-12 here: https://www.unitedstatescourts.org/federal/nysd/467693/53-0.html. A federal court reached the same result in 2008 when someone published a "Harry Potter Lexicon" that went into great detail: see http://www.dmlp.org/blog/2008/judge-rejects-fair-use-defense-harry-potter-lexicon-case-jk-rowling-recovers-her-plums. However, it is important to note that court stated that "reference guides to works of literature should generally be encouraged by copyright law as they provide a benefit readers and students," and "certainly, the Lexicon must be permitted to refer to an object by its invented name and describe some of its invented attributes to fulfill its purpose as a reference work." The reason the defendant lost was solely because the defendant took too many direct passages from the original Harry Potter books. See pages 54-62 here: http://www.dmlp.org/sites/citmedialaw.org/files/2008-09-08-Rowling%20Decision.pdf. It should be noted that when the judge said that reference guides should be encouraged, this was in his discussion of fair use. There is no statutory exception in U.S. copyright law that would cover them. So, back to my diagram: I think it is quite clear that it is a "reference guide" that would be very helpful to readers and students. I also think it takes an absolute minimum from the original, using only proper names and bare-bones descriptions of selected relationships (unlike the guides at issue in the Harry Potter Lexicon case or the children's adaptations case). In my original fair use justification attached to the image, I estimated that all of the information, if written out in narrative form, would consume perhaps 3 pages, and this is half a percent of the 600-page novel. I read on this page that fair use is not allowed on Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Fair_use. But it also says "You may, however, submit such images to your local wiki, if it allows fair use." I don't know my way around the Wiki ecosystem well enough to know what that means. Is there a way I can re-upload the image for the U.S. Wikipedia only? (I will, by the way, reduce the size by about 55% this time.) Thanks! Drochtegang ( talk) 03:35, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
I created this image in Google Drawings (part of the Google Docs suite). I checked just now and Drawings does appear to offer a download function in .svg format. Regarding the de minimis defense: I agree that should be considered as well. I had chosen fair use because of this hypothetical: a novelist copies all 45 or so names in the diagram (verbatim) from Doctor Zhivago, for characters in a new novel, and replicates the 75 or so relationships in the diagram as well. For example, a character named Yuri Andreevich Zhivago has a friend named Mikhail Grigorievich Gordon, and also has a half-brother whose name is Evgraf Andreevich Zhivago, who is the illegitimate son of someone named Princess Sotlbunova-Enrizzi, and so on. In that case, I think a copyright holder might be able to get past a de minimis defense, even if only the names and relationships were taken. A court might find a colorable case of "comprehensive non-literal similarity" even if the setting and plot of the second novel were significantly different from the first novel. The defendant would be in the position of arguing that "the relationships between all the major characters are insignificant to the structure of the book." But the more complete defenses, the better! So please advise -- should I try to create and upload a SVG version? Thanks. Drochtegang ( talk) 21:36, 27 September 2017 (UTC) (Or I suppose it could be "fragmented literal similarity" instead. Either way, potentially more than de minimis when we are talking 45 characters, I would think.) Drochtegang ( talk) 21:47, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, sounds like a good plan. I tried SVG just now and it looks great. Drochtegang ( talk) 22:12, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the input, Thincat. I agree that the diagram contains the same info that would be in a long list of names and relationships, and I also agree that it probably would have been uncontroversial if I had uploaded that list instead. Just for the record (and to further bolster the fair use case), the reason I chose to present the information in diagram form is that I believe it is much more useful for a reader than a two-page-long list: the information can be absorbed much more quickly. The diagram is also much more compact than a list would be: if a character is part of, say, five relationships, the character's name need not be repeated five times, as it would be in a narrative list. Finally, I think I would have gotten complaints for adding too long a list to the Doctor Zhivago page. My problem at this point is that I'm not comfortable declaring I am the sole author (and thus entitled to dedicate it to the PD or put a CC license on it). Drochtegang ( talk) 16:33, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
Okay, I uploaded the SVG version here: /info/en/?search=File:Diagram_of_selected_relationships_in_Doctor_Zhivago_(novel).svg. I included the fair use rationale in the appropriate fields. I then added the diagram back into its original place on the page /info/en/?search=Doctor_Zhivago_(novel). So I think we're back to where we started, but this time with a SVG file, which I hope is much lighter. Now just this morning, I got a message that a bot had marked the old version of the image for deletion because it was an orphan. I assume that bot will leave me alone now because you will delete the old version again, and the bot won't bother me about the new image because it is linked to the article. But there is still the issue of the bot that didn't like the non-free aspect of the image. Is there some way you can flag the image as OK now, so I don't have to go through this process again? Cheers, Drochtegang ( talk) 19:44, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
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23:25, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Per: your request I have altered the size of the vectored file in question to 288 × 551 pixels, with the reduced file size now at 5 KB. Please let me know if there are any other adjustments that need to be made to the file for it to become acceptable. Thank you for your help. —Spintendo Talk 21:18, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
I think these images should be un-resized. I would argue that due to the poor resizing (namely, lack of interpolation), the text is made utterly illegible (especially in the case of File:NortonCommanderWin.png). One would have to already be familiar with the program in order to recognize the image, which in my view defeats the purpose of having an image in the first place. Additionally, I would argue that the poor quality of the image (especially in the case of File:NortonCommanderWin.png) actively "tarnishes and misrepresents" the program, by portraying it as having poor quality text to the degree of being entirely unusable as a file explorer. If the images cannot be restored to their original resolution, I think they should be removed from the article and deleted, as in their present state, they actively detract from the quality of the article. ⁓ Hello 71 02:30, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
This question is out of curiosity more than anything; I don't really care either way about the image these days (in fact, I'd forgotten it was on my watchlist!). I see it was tagged for reduction, so I'm wondering if its prior reduction (albeit 8 years ago so things have probably changed) just wasn't enough? - Purplewowies ( talk) 01:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Regarding this edit, can you please explain what exact NFCC size guideline this apparently violates and what exactly is the NFCC size guideline? This image is 500 × 359. What exact dimensions does NFCC require for this image to be NFCC? -- Oakshade ( talk) 20:00, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
Is this good? Artix ( Message wall) 15:28, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
You tagged this for reduction. Are you sure that it is unfree? It seems to have been created by British Rail, so maybe it counts as a government work? In that case, it's {{ PD-UKGov}}. -- Stefan2 ( talk) 22:31, 5 October 2017 (UTC)