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Please would you stop VK adding fact tags to James Arbuthnot. - Kittybrewster ☎ 20:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Ahem. VK and KB, in my view the both of you should know better. This belongs on the article's talk anyway... instead of coming to some admin first and asking for help, why not try amicably working it out there? I've started a thread for you: Talk:James_Arbuthnot#Edit_warring_over_how_someone.27s_voice_sounds.3F and really. I mean really. The whole thing seems rather petty to me but I may be confused. ++ Lar: t/ c 23:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I have to change my user name. Almost whatever I write, I seem to attract the terminally cranky. Perhaps it is my writing style that is irrtating. Do you have any helpful ideas? Oh, and thank you for your support for the "peanut gallery" at Wikipedia:Reference Desk/Miscellaneous#What can hospitals force you to stay for?. I did notice. :-) Bielle 02:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
And no worries. That case brought out anger and passion in many of us. While I still have a serious issue with how some powerful people comported themselves in this case, my anger had gotten the best of me, and it took a new friend e-mailing me about it, and GRBerry (who I asked to look at my notes at Bauder's page) gently admonishing me, to get me to see it. Thanks for the note at my talkpage. Regards, Mr Which ??? 14:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the barnstar you left on my page - even though it gotted eaten by a bear, it's the thought that counts ;)... and on my birthday, too! (well, actually about 7 minutes after it ended, but hey, who's counting? :D). I'm actually a little confused as to what it's for, as the link you left points to the humanities reference desk, but the anchor doesn't seem to work. I'm guessing maybe the Vicky poem, but I'm not sure. Anyways, thank you! -- Monorail Cat 08:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, the last line can be tricky! Tyrenius ( talk) 01:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Hitting the Beeb is big-time, indeed though Nature was right up there to start with. I wonder if what you have discovered (with the aid of a colleague or two) is the same reaction that causes people dealing with horses never to take into the stall of one stallion a rag that has touched another stallion, and contains its his sweat.
Bielle (
talk)
01:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
So I'm reading the BBC website and I suddenly realise you were probably inspired by wikipedia to start this research. Or maybe you were drawn to wikipedia to prove your thesis? :) David D. (Talk) 23:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
(Reset indent) I spoke to my horse-breeding friend. She said she would ask someone with serious practical knowledge. Owners, she says, provide money, facilities, equipment, money and more money; the staff are the ones that know horses. Aside from knowing that stallion corrals are always round (so that nothing, including them) can be cornered in them, and that stallions are generally kept as far apart as the real estate will allow, she relies on the expertise of others. I wil report when I hear back. Bielle ( talk) 03:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the warm welcome on my page! Maybe you can tell me how to become involved with a Wikiprojects group? It seems a great way to dive in and start contributing. SkyllaLaFey ( talk) 05:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
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The Brown Dog Award | |
For helping to get a fascinating little corner of English history fixed up and on the front page in record time. :-) SlimVirgin (talk) (contribs) 08:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
Hey Rockpocket, I haven’t needed to ask you for help in ages, so I guess I’m ready to graduate from my Wiki-adoption. Thanks so much for your help! I’ll try to do the same for another new Wikipedian someday when I have the necessary experience. Cheers, -- S.dedalus ( talk) 00:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Rockie! Once again I turn to you for help, though this time on a very minor matter. I'll be jetting of to Africa just before Christmas, as you know. I would like to put an 'I'm off on holiday template' on my user page prior to this, just in case anybody is wondering where I am. I saw a nice one some time ago on another user's page, with a cute little aeroplane! So far I've not been able to locate this. Could you please point me in the right direction? Thanks ever so. Clio the Muse ( talk) 23:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
He doesn't like the contribution of anyone who disagrees with him.
He also like to get people banned for things he did wrong.
But, hey, let's just let people tell him what he did wrong so he can ignore/delete it and never have to improve.
Duggy 1138 ( talk) 06:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I finally discovered my inbox on my wiki profile account, and just wanted to send a thank you for the welcome letter you sent me.
-- Saukkomies —Preceding comment was added at 03:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
for your contrubution in talk:Biopsychiatry controversy when I was on a wiki-break. I already posted some comments in that page. Cesar Tort 22:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Rockpocket: I'm the communications director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, and I've noted a number of serious errors on the page about our organization. These problems need to be fixed right away. What is the best way to proceed?
Thanks.
Patrick Sullivan psullivan@pcrm.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.200.174.91 ( talk) 18:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
hi Rockpocket, me and mine are generally ok, have not been active due to being off work long term. Some crazy shit happened a few months ago, and perry Jr was not at all well. Jr now fitting fit (our little Lionheart) and the family is looking forward to christmas. Congrats on the nature article, mmm mouse piss... you and yours have a good one and hopefully my inane and unhelpful comments will return to the ref pages soon wahoo! Perry-mankster ( talk) 15:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
He seems to be known for a good deal of other work as well, so I removed the Prod. You might want to add some of it from his CV, and perhaps a citation count from Web of Science. Which would be the best article if he were known only for that work is an interesting & unsettled question. Some would go with an article on the specific study, but I would generally prefer the scientist, because the scientist is the article likely to be expanded.. However, in this case there isn't really much doubt that he should have a separate article-- He seems to be primarily an authority on sperm competition in fish. My guess is that the Tshirt study was done as a diversion, & got picked up as interesting--certainly most people might think it more interesting than his main subect. The eds. judgment there is not infallible:), but I think he was right this time. DGG ( talk) 22:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Rockpocket, I wanted to thank you personally for recommending that A.Z. come learn and contribute to Wikiversity while he sorts out issues with arbcom, perhaps overly zealous editors, and learns how to interact more effectively with wiki communities. I view it as a large learning opportunity for the current Wikiversity community attempting to grow the community and develop methods sufficient to run a large set of virtual distributed learning environments via wikimedia and other software and the internet. Below I have attempted to award you a Wikiversity Barnstar. I am not certain that it will work accross wikis so I will tell you verbally it is the basic barnstar. No, syntax appears different. Text gets point accross however, 3 is current the "Shooting Star". Nice shot! 8) Thanks again and keep up the good work! v:user:mirwin 26 Dec 07
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The shooting barnstar | |
Pointing potential learners to Wikiversity, improving both environments simultaneously. Synergy! Lazyquasar ( talk) 19:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC) |
Thanks for the concern Rockpocket, appreciated. I have no idea where to find the "ruling" - could you give me a link? Call me St Thomas, but I need to study it myself - I appear to mis-remember it - I was sure it said IPs could be reverted at will. (And if it didn't it certainly should have 'cos the present mess only facilitates puppets etc. Happy New Year; I will strive not to get blocked - but you know me! ( Sarah777 ( talk) 03:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC))
My understanding is that they want us to contact ArbCom in private. However, my understanding of policy also shows that an RfC could be used if there are 2 people that object to the conduct of a user. -- CyclePat ( talk) 09:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi. There was an "War-box" added to The Troubles article without any consensus and despite the history of the article. I changed it to reflect a more acceptable (to me) version pending discussion and agreement. User:Traditional unionist simply reverted my change within seconds; I reinstated and he reverted again, threatening to "report me" if I changed it back. Now Trad U is a named participant at the Troubles Workshop and is under very clear, strict and unambiguous orders to make no more than one revert per week:
"2) Participants placed on probation are limited to one revert per article per week with respect to the set of articles included in the probation. Any participant may be briefly banned for personal attacks or incivility. Reversion of edits by anonymous IPs do not count as a revert."
As I have been twice blocked once, without any relief, for accidentally breaching 3RR I call on you to block User:Traditional unionist for breaching his terms of probation. (What he did was clear edit-warring in any case - but this is an automatic like 3RR, or else it means nothing).
Regards ( Sarah777 ( talk) 20:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC))
As his last revert was illegal, either you should revert it or I should be allowed to do so; or better still - remove the box until it is discussed and agreed. ( Sarah777 ( talk) 20:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC))
Hi Rockpocket, sorry to return so quickly to this issue but if my reading of this is correct Domer is being hounded a bit. This was something he posted on another page User talk:Heimstern:
I feel I must respond to the above editor, and possibly you might have some advice. On the Kevin Barry article they abuse their admin tools , and then had to be warned about it. They follow me to the Segi article and start there, adding things to referenced text. They then go and block me. Admin John was decent enough to provide the diff's. While other editors noted the COI (they did not respond), which is an abuse of admin tools, admin SirFozzie was the only one who would agreed that the Diff's did show they were for different things (not the same edit). I did not even get put on a 3rr report. I reported them for a 3 rr same situation, and they walk away from it. It then got to the stage were Fozz gave them a strong warning, which they ignored, and told Admin John to to leave their incivility in a post. Regardless of all this they still can not be civil. It was as a result of this that I learn that they have a history of this. Another Admin had to step in on the Patrick Pearsearticle. They Block another editor, and thought light of it. And have been pulled judging from a page littered with civility warnings. Now they have followed me to more articles Irish Volunteers, Sean Heuston, Thomas Clarke, Easter Rising, Roger Casement and the afore mentioned Patrick Pearse article. Having filed another 3 rr notice still were not blocked for edit warring. And still the abuse because I read. Then their buddy jumps in notice the last revert on this article. To top it all they abused their admin tool to edit an article which was protected despite no agreement reached, and dispite being warned not to. Admin SirFozzie started an AN/I report which went no were, and is still hanging in the air. They now accuse me of being an IRA supporter because I like to edit Republican history articles. So if I got the hump with your block, you may now understand. Any advice would be welcome, could you please post on my talk page.-- Domer48 ( talk) 11:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I thought tailing an editor across Wiki was verboten? Should I maybe take a keen interest in some of these editor's work? This will lead to chaos unless someone calls a halt. I would be interested in your considered views on the situation - I have no suggestion what to do as I don't know at this stage. ( Sarah777 ( talk) 16:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC))
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 15 | ← | Archive 17 | Archive 18 | Archive 19 | Archive 20 | Archive 21 | → | Archive 25 |
Please would you stop VK adding fact tags to James Arbuthnot. - Kittybrewster ☎ 20:34, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Ahem. VK and KB, in my view the both of you should know better. This belongs on the article's talk anyway... instead of coming to some admin first and asking for help, why not try amicably working it out there? I've started a thread for you: Talk:James_Arbuthnot#Edit_warring_over_how_someone.27s_voice_sounds.3F and really. I mean really. The whole thing seems rather petty to me but I may be confused. ++ Lar: t/ c 23:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
I think I have to change my user name. Almost whatever I write, I seem to attract the terminally cranky. Perhaps it is my writing style that is irrtating. Do you have any helpful ideas? Oh, and thank you for your support for the "peanut gallery" at Wikipedia:Reference Desk/Miscellaneous#What can hospitals force you to stay for?. I did notice. :-) Bielle 02:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
And no worries. That case brought out anger and passion in many of us. While I still have a serious issue with how some powerful people comported themselves in this case, my anger had gotten the best of me, and it took a new friend e-mailing me about it, and GRBerry (who I asked to look at my notes at Bauder's page) gently admonishing me, to get me to see it. Thanks for the note at my talkpage. Regards, Mr Which ??? 14:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you so much for the barnstar you left on my page - even though it gotted eaten by a bear, it's the thought that counts ;)... and on my birthday, too! (well, actually about 7 minutes after it ended, but hey, who's counting? :D). I'm actually a little confused as to what it's for, as the link you left points to the humanities reference desk, but the anchor doesn't seem to work. I'm guessing maybe the Vicky poem, but I'm not sure. Anyways, thank you! -- Monorail Cat 08:13, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
Indeed, the last line can be tricky! Tyrenius ( talk) 01:51, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Hitting the Beeb is big-time, indeed though Nature was right up there to start with. I wonder if what you have discovered (with the aid of a colleague or two) is the same reaction that causes people dealing with horses never to take into the stall of one stallion a rag that has touched another stallion, and contains its his sweat.
Bielle (
talk)
01:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
So I'm reading the BBC website and I suddenly realise you were probably inspired by wikipedia to start this research. Or maybe you were drawn to wikipedia to prove your thesis? :) David D. (Talk) 23:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
(Reset indent) I spoke to my horse-breeding friend. She said she would ask someone with serious practical knowledge. Owners, she says, provide money, facilities, equipment, money and more money; the staff are the ones that know horses. Aside from knowing that stallion corrals are always round (so that nothing, including them) can be cornered in them, and that stallions are generally kept as far apart as the real estate will allow, she relies on the expertise of others. I wil report when I hear back. Bielle ( talk) 03:02, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for the warm welcome on my page! Maybe you can tell me how to become involved with a Wikiprojects group? It seems a great way to dive in and start contributing. SkyllaLaFey ( talk) 05:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
![]() |
The Brown Dog Award | |
For helping to get a fascinating little corner of English history fixed up and on the front page in record time. :-) SlimVirgin (talk) (contribs) 08:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
Hey Rockpocket, I haven’t needed to ask you for help in ages, so I guess I’m ready to graduate from my Wiki-adoption. Thanks so much for your help! I’ll try to do the same for another new Wikipedian someday when I have the necessary experience. Cheers, -- S.dedalus ( talk) 00:16, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Rockie! Once again I turn to you for help, though this time on a very minor matter. I'll be jetting of to Africa just before Christmas, as you know. I would like to put an 'I'm off on holiday template' on my user page prior to this, just in case anybody is wondering where I am. I saw a nice one some time ago on another user's page, with a cute little aeroplane! So far I've not been able to locate this. Could you please point me in the right direction? Thanks ever so. Clio the Muse ( talk) 23:42, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
He doesn't like the contribution of anyone who disagrees with him.
He also like to get people banned for things he did wrong.
But, hey, let's just let people tell him what he did wrong so he can ignore/delete it and never have to improve.
Duggy 1138 ( talk) 06:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
I finally discovered my inbox on my wiki profile account, and just wanted to send a thank you for the welcome letter you sent me.
-- Saukkomies —Preceding comment was added at 03:01, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
for your contrubution in talk:Biopsychiatry controversy when I was on a wiki-break. I already posted some comments in that page. Cesar Tort 22:09, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi Rockpocket: I'm the communications director for the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, and I've noted a number of serious errors on the page about our organization. These problems need to be fixed right away. What is the best way to proceed?
Thanks.
Patrick Sullivan psullivan@pcrm.org —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.200.174.91 ( talk) 18:13, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
hi Rockpocket, me and mine are generally ok, have not been active due to being off work long term. Some crazy shit happened a few months ago, and perry Jr was not at all well. Jr now fitting fit (our little Lionheart) and the family is looking forward to christmas. Congrats on the nature article, mmm mouse piss... you and yours have a good one and hopefully my inane and unhelpful comments will return to the ref pages soon wahoo! Perry-mankster ( talk) 15:23, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
He seems to be known for a good deal of other work as well, so I removed the Prod. You might want to add some of it from his CV, and perhaps a citation count from Web of Science. Which would be the best article if he were known only for that work is an interesting & unsettled question. Some would go with an article on the specific study, but I would generally prefer the scientist, because the scientist is the article likely to be expanded.. However, in this case there isn't really much doubt that he should have a separate article-- He seems to be primarily an authority on sperm competition in fish. My guess is that the Tshirt study was done as a diversion, & got picked up as interesting--certainly most people might think it more interesting than his main subect. The eds. judgment there is not infallible:), but I think he was right this time. DGG ( talk) 22:58, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Rockpocket, I wanted to thank you personally for recommending that A.Z. come learn and contribute to Wikiversity while he sorts out issues with arbcom, perhaps overly zealous editors, and learns how to interact more effectively with wiki communities. I view it as a large learning opportunity for the current Wikiversity community attempting to grow the community and develop methods sufficient to run a large set of virtual distributed learning environments via wikimedia and other software and the internet. Below I have attempted to award you a Wikiversity Barnstar. I am not certain that it will work accross wikis so I will tell you verbally it is the basic barnstar. No, syntax appears different. Text gets point accross however, 3 is current the "Shooting Star". Nice shot! 8) Thanks again and keep up the good work! v:user:mirwin 26 Dec 07
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The shooting barnstar | |
Pointing potential learners to Wikiversity, improving both environments simultaneously. Synergy! Lazyquasar ( talk) 19:49, 26 December 2007 (UTC) |
Thanks for the concern Rockpocket, appreciated. I have no idea where to find the "ruling" - could you give me a link? Call me St Thomas, but I need to study it myself - I appear to mis-remember it - I was sure it said IPs could be reverted at will. (And if it didn't it certainly should have 'cos the present mess only facilitates puppets etc. Happy New Year; I will strive not to get blocked - but you know me! ( Sarah777 ( talk) 03:47, 28 December 2007 (UTC))
My understanding is that they want us to contact ArbCom in private. However, my understanding of policy also shows that an RfC could be used if there are 2 people that object to the conduct of a user. -- CyclePat ( talk) 09:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi. There was an "War-box" added to The Troubles article without any consensus and despite the history of the article. I changed it to reflect a more acceptable (to me) version pending discussion and agreement. User:Traditional unionist simply reverted my change within seconds; I reinstated and he reverted again, threatening to "report me" if I changed it back. Now Trad U is a named participant at the Troubles Workshop and is under very clear, strict and unambiguous orders to make no more than one revert per week:
"2) Participants placed on probation are limited to one revert per article per week with respect to the set of articles included in the probation. Any participant may be briefly banned for personal attacks or incivility. Reversion of edits by anonymous IPs do not count as a revert."
As I have been twice blocked once, without any relief, for accidentally breaching 3RR I call on you to block User:Traditional unionist for breaching his terms of probation. (What he did was clear edit-warring in any case - but this is an automatic like 3RR, or else it means nothing).
Regards ( Sarah777 ( talk) 20:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC))
As his last revert was illegal, either you should revert it or I should be allowed to do so; or better still - remove the box until it is discussed and agreed. ( Sarah777 ( talk) 20:42, 29 December 2007 (UTC))
Hi Rockpocket, sorry to return so quickly to this issue but if my reading of this is correct Domer is being hounded a bit. This was something he posted on another page User talk:Heimstern:
I feel I must respond to the above editor, and possibly you might have some advice. On the Kevin Barry article they abuse their admin tools , and then had to be warned about it. They follow me to the Segi article and start there, adding things to referenced text. They then go and block me. Admin John was decent enough to provide the diff's. While other editors noted the COI (they did not respond), which is an abuse of admin tools, admin SirFozzie was the only one who would agreed that the Diff's did show they were for different things (not the same edit). I did not even get put on a 3rr report. I reported them for a 3 rr same situation, and they walk away from it. It then got to the stage were Fozz gave them a strong warning, which they ignored, and told Admin John to to leave their incivility in a post. Regardless of all this they still can not be civil. It was as a result of this that I learn that they have a history of this. Another Admin had to step in on the Patrick Pearsearticle. They Block another editor, and thought light of it. And have been pulled judging from a page littered with civility warnings. Now they have followed me to more articles Irish Volunteers, Sean Heuston, Thomas Clarke, Easter Rising, Roger Casement and the afore mentioned Patrick Pearse article. Having filed another 3 rr notice still were not blocked for edit warring. And still the abuse because I read. Then their buddy jumps in notice the last revert on this article. To top it all they abused their admin tool to edit an article which was protected despite no agreement reached, and dispite being warned not to. Admin SirFozzie started an AN/I report which went no were, and is still hanging in the air. They now accuse me of being an IRA supporter because I like to edit Republican history articles. So if I got the hump with your block, you may now understand. Any advice would be welcome, could you please post on my talk page.-- Domer48 ( talk) 11:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I thought tailing an editor across Wiki was verboten? Should I maybe take a keen interest in some of these editor's work? This will lead to chaos unless someone calls a halt. I would be interested in your considered views on the situation - I have no suggestion what to do as I don't know at this stage. ( Sarah777 ( talk) 16:51, 31 December 2007 (UTC))