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Thank u for your efforts vis-a-vis Penyulap! Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 22:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Dear Rich, well done for contributing over a million edits to the English language Wikipedia. Ϣere SpielChequers 13:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC) |
Howdy chief. This RfD relates to a set of redirects you created in 2006. - TB ( talk) 22:23, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I just made an discovery about that redirect, that I posted to it's RFD, that answers your question about why nobody has written article. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 13:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 02:02, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Bish, Elen, Rich: I've been trying to work out in my head how to say this, hoping to formulate something especially enlightened, pithy, succinct or compelling. Having crossed paths with all of you all overs the years, I've developed appreciation and respect for your efforts here. Seeing this develop has been like watching the beginning of a car crash: you see it develop, you know it's going to be bad, and there doesn't seem like there's a damn thing you can do to stop it. The best I've come up with is:
You're all acting like idiots, please stop.
I don't see specific enumeration, or relative ranking of your recent missteps, as a useful exercise. Penyulap was blocked by Coren back in July, followin an ANI discussion, so the good or bad of the block is on him. Whether or not Penyulap's talk page access is enabled isn't really significant to Wikpedia - the Encyclopedia. It's not that important, and certainly not important enough for ya'll to be at each other's throats. You all are hereby banned by the Ent from interacting with each other for a week or so, or until your brains return to their usually rational state. This ban will not be enforced by blocks, threats or noticeboard dramas, but rather (hopefully) by their being enough sanity in your respective brains to see the wisdom in what a very old Ent is sayin. Nobody Ent 15:17, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
...is a great template. Thanks.
It's not important at all, but I thought I'd let you know that it's broken by {{ u}} - I'd fix it but my templating skills aren't good enough to debug the problem.
Expected:
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Best, — Hex (❝?!❞) 15:18, 3 November 2012 (UTC).
I have started a discussion about your apparent violation of your arbcom imposed restrictions at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Rich Farmbrough. Note that the case also mentions that the alleged arbcom restriction violations are also clear violations of your indefinite Wikipedia:Editing restrictions. Fram ( talk) 09:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
-- Redrose64 ( talk) 09:41, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
-- Redrose64 ( talk) 08:40, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
-- Redrose64 ( talk) 14:54, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
-- Redrose64 ( talk) 18:16, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
FYI: I replied to your comments on the recruitment policy RFC. -- EpochFail( talk| work) 14:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Heyo. You may wish to re-write your comment at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 November 5#Template:This template is used in several articles, as the template is not intended to ever be used in articles, but merely as an info/warning ombox in Template: namespace. It and its main alias ({{ SA}}) are transcluded in 117 instances (as template-documentation). ;) — Quiddity ( talk) 21:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Copied and undented from Penyulap's talk page; that isn't the place for this. — Coren (talk) 00:43, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Nice to see you are prejudging the ombudsman complaint. But once the ombudsman complaint has been made, Courcelles should not be taking additional admin actions against the complainant. We have over 1,000 admins only a handful count as involved. And it would be bad enough if there was cause for the block, but clearly there isn't, which makes it look like a revenge block. That's why I describe it as a monumental gaffe.
Rich
Farmbrough,
22:03, 5 November 2012 (UTC).
I don't believe for a minute that you could be suggesting seriously that an administrator should be automatically considered WP:INVOLVED as soon as someone makes some vague complaint, regardless of merit or relevance. This isn't about propriety and involvement, it's about wanting to disqualify an administrator whose decision you find disagreeable; the putative email to the ombudsmen commission is just a pretext. — Coren (talk) 00:37, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I have started a discussion at WP:AN#Rich Farmbrough's editing restriction. Fram ( talk) 09:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
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I award you the purple barnstar with oakleaf cluster, for equanimity, under continual hounding. You have proven by your conduct, too good for this toxic culture; may you bring productivity to whatever team you grace by your efforts. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 22:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC) |
The community has restricted you per the following: Regardless of the editing method (i.e. manual, semi-automatic, or automatic; from any account), Rich Farmbrough is indefinitely prohibited from mass creating pages in any namespace, unless prior community approval for the specific mass creation task is documented. The definition of "mass creation" and the spirit of the restriction follows Wikipedia:BOTPOL#Mass_article_creation. [1] [2] is a clear violation of that restriction, as there is no prior approval. Accordingly, I have blocked you for two weeks, since you were already blocked for one week in September 2011 for violating this restriction. The rationale behind this restriction is the same rationale behind the automation restriction: complaints regarding mistakes such as inappropriate tagging, requiring users to check over your work.
For the record, [3] is highly inappropriate as a personal attack, and your battleground mentality at Courcelles' talk page is also worrisome (there is a difference between discussion and badgering). However, I did not factor either of those into the block. Also for the record, I haven't taken the time to figure out who Penyulap is, so I have no opinion in that matter. -- Rs chen 7754 09:58, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
<meh> If I was Rschen I would probably have thought I needed blocking. Rschen was doubtless biased by my calling out of Courcelles on his WP:INVOLVED block of Penyulap, but nonetheless can't be faulted for not knowing that Fram regularly attacks me using AN , AN/I, ARbcom and anything else he can. Nor could he be expected to know that the editing restriction is under dispute, and I had served notice that I was going to start addressing some of these historical anomalies.
It is certainly true that I won't be able to request administrator intervention in the case of Courcelles/Penyulap, so that is a shame. While Wikipedia is innovative, we have many of the characteristics of previous organisations, including documented cases of "bad eggs" in Arbcom, so why we think we should be free of people simply making wrong decisions based on prejudice and lack of application is a mystery.
I do think it is not a good idea to block an established editor who has only had 3 minutes notice of a discussion.
Rich
Farmbrough,
12:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC).
To whom it may concern,
--begin--
This idea that Wikipedia is not "Real Life" is fallacious. I have had at lest two editors contacting me saying that they were suffering ill health because of abuse on Wikipedia, and two who have felt close to taking their own lives. In every case but one administrators (individuals, not as a cadre) were responsible.
You have to remember our editor demographic corresponds very closely to the suicide demographic. It is only a matter of time before "Wikipedia editor takes own life" is a headline, and I just hope that when that evil day happens none of us have anything to reproach ourselves with.
(Note: We have of course lost editors to suicide, but not due to Wikipedia a far as I know.)
Rich
Farmbrough,
03:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
--end--
Thanks.
Rich
Farmbrough,
03:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
Hi Rich - really nice to meet you in Cambridge the other day. I see you've been involved at some point with WP:WikiProject French communes, and wondered if you knew any general context for a question I have about French communes. They've been relatively well-served by interwiki bot efforts: e.g. User:Rar's bot putting them up on uk.wiki in early 2010, with the result that the Ukrainian wiki has 30 times as many geotagged French articles as US articles. Do you have any idea why they should have been so widely ported across different wikis, compared to similar administrative units in other countries? Was the structured data for them fuller / available earlier / differently licensed / inherently more interesting than that for other countries? Any hypotheses or suggestions as to who might know welcome! Best wishes, Dsp13 ( talk) 11:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
{{
Infobox settlement}}
or having the infobox made into a wrapper, unfortunately they divereged.I have sent an email, followed by a short postscript to the arbitration committee. 24 hours later I have had no response from a functionary that it has been forwarded to the list (or declined). The same thing happened in May, and I never got a response. I am aware that I am not the only person that ArbCom has ignored, however it seems to me that it is a matter for the Committee, although even then I would expect them to send me a mail saying "we have decided to ignore you" rather than the mailing list moderators.
I would appreciate some clarification of what's happening here, this is a time sensitive issue, and I cannot for the sake of the encyclopaedia simply let this matter drop. I will be deciding my next steps, if necessary, when I return to my desk in about 5 hours.
All the best,
Rich
Farmbrough,
06:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC).
Hi, Rich. I am contacting you because you recently left a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3rd bundle of channel lineups. I have just created another AfD, nominating List of Net channels for deletion. If you are interested, you can leave a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Net channels. Thanks. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 03:21, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
The UTRS system is hosted on toolserver. Who has access to this data?
Rich
Farmbrough,
20:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC).
Done
Ϣere
SpielChequers
22:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Can someone send me the text of
Salmon Fishing, please?
Rich
Farmbrough,
20:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC).
"This account has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that the operator has abusively used one or more accounts."
Can someone change this to something that makes sense such as
"This account has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that the operator has abusively used an alternate account."
Rich
Farmbrough,
22:33, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
{{
IP sock}}
, so this should only be used on named accounts. If there is no other named account then this is the sockmaster, I would presume,and should be tagged as such."This account has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that the operator has abusively used more than one account."
(OK there are still problems when they haven't been abusive, but we have templates for that - sock of an indeffed user, sock of a blocked user, I am sure are wordings I have seen. I even saw one that told the future and said it was an account that was going to be used abusively, but that is a tangent.)
User:Dohardthings was warned for vandalism and (possible) socking, on 24 October. The user subsequently created a good faith article on the same day. On the 4th of November Elen of the Roads blocked this editor, for "abusive socking".
Can some uninvolved admin unblock, please.
Rich
Farmbrough,
16:59, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
{{
Uw-agf-sock}}
template "Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia."{{
checkuser}}
is because the checkuser has more information available to make a decision than non-checkusers do. For instance, I double checked Elen's block to see if it was reasonable to unblock, and found that the editor is (a) clearly not a child, (b) sufficiently technically astute to attempt to dissimulate the socking (though not very well), (c) attempting said dissimulation before they were warned, and (d) flat out lying about it.Your assumptions were incorrect, which is quite normal since you based them on incomplete information. Where you erred is that in your zeal to find fault With Elen, you simply presumed that the blocks were bad even though you knew you did not have enough information to make a judgement in the matter. — Coren (talk) 23:27, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
( ←) You're missing the point. It's not about how many UA strings there were, or how likely each was individually plausible (I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure I saw one that claimed IE9 on NT4); it's about recognizing the "not a genuine child/newbie" pattern. I've often heard the "be nice to a vandal they may become a productive editor" meme, but I've never seen it actually occur. Newbies that behaved disruptively because they didn't know better? Sure. Users who started with "malice aforethought"? Never. (Or at least, if they do, it's by starting over; not by reforming the original troll accounts). — Coren (talk) 14:59, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
"(b) blockers who don't have enough knowledge to analyse topology and evaluate collateral damage. The latter is, thankfully, very rare from checkusers; but as long as admins get to do range blocks we'll keep running into that problem. That needs a fix in policy and thus community consensus."
I was going to head this section "Wiki-break" because I would love to come back to editing, whether it's bot-running, turtles, viruses, templates, vandal fighting or hosting at tea-house.
Unfortunately when I look at the options open to me, I find I am hemmed in at every turn by the hasty actions of one administrator a couple of years ago that have gradually made editing a misery instead of a pleasure.
The option of a clean start is denied to me, the only way I can make the contributions I want to on Wikipedia is either if I fight to get the editing restrictions removed (they run 'til the end of time) and the arbcom decision overturned, or if the community were to offer me an amnesty. I do not have the energy for the former, and I can virtually write the script if someone were to request the latter.
While I enjoy a robust discussion, the conversations I have been having with (doubtless well meaning) arbitrators are such that they never give ground to mere reason, only (and then reluctantly, and not always) to incontrovertible fact. It also pains me that in order to get a tiny concession from an administrator it took two months of work and she was "quite upset" (which in British English means "very upset") at the end of it. I am not here to upset people, I am here to make knowledge available.
From 2007, following multiple bereavements I was suffering for a long time from clinical depression, a fact which I shared with no-one for at least three years. I am proud to have made it through this tough time, and working on Wikipedia, and the camaraderie helped. But starting September 2010, a particularly nasty AN/I thread was kicked off and from there on in things have been downhill. I have no intention of returning to those dark days, and having had occasion recently to review the AN/I threads and the Arbcom case I have been reminded how awful they were.
I happened to notice, this morning, that {{
Wikify}}
has been deprecated. I would have liked to have been on the discussion, as I have been very involved with that template - I took a brief look at the edit history, and saw that my last edit (in 2011) had been reverted by Fram. It brought it home just how much he is there at every turn, backed up by CBM and people who make their mind up before they know the facts, and then are not prepared to change it.
So as of now I will be doing the following:
To all other intents and purposes on en:Wikipedia, for the time being at least, this editor is:
All the best.
Rich
Farmbrough,
12:36, 9 November 2012 (UTC).
All the best Rich. I have hopes that Wikipedia will improve. It may not be now, but it will be in the future. I hope to see you come back when that happens. Don't let yourself get identified as you when you're editing as an IP.— cyberpower ChatLimited Access 16:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
I understand how you feel Rich. Lord knows I have made my opinions about the situation known and I am sorry if I caused you any additional discomfort in that. I just couldn't sit by and watch the things that were going on. I basically retired from editing myself and only came back to comment on the block. Since you haev decided to Retire as well, I see no resaon to continue to fight an admittedly lost cause.
I truly do wish you the best and I hope this all turns out for the best. I will likely not be editing again after this either. I think this will be marked as one of the saddest days of Wikipedia. Good luck my friend. Kumioko ( talk) 18:51, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
There are some real bastards around here.
You are not one of those.
The other languages of WP are a lot less vexing.
Varlaam (
talk)
00:50, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
The Bastards! I was been wondering when it would come to this. This is a sad day for Wikipedia. The Bastards will be jolly proud of themselves. Whilst one might read the preceding phrase with a touch of irony, I'm actually sure the Bastards are actually proud of themselves for having eliminated "an enemy". But for me, I'm just gutted that one of my first ports of call just been hounded out of wiki-existence. <sniff, sob, blows nose on hankie> -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 01:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks It's been a pleasure getting to know you here and in real life as well, Rich. I hope that the time comes when you change your mind, but if not, I hope that you'll find some other venue for helping to give free knowledge to others. I don't know all of the ins and outs of all of your disputes, but I do know that you've been nothing but a gentleman to me and the world could use a few more of them. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 08:09, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
It is a real shame to see the second most prolific editor retire from Wikipedia. I too have had editing restrictions placed on me as a result of Frams actions. In both case the wiki-punishment does not suit the perceived "wiki-crime" IMO. -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 14:38, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
I am very sorry to see you go. It is disgusting to see how some long-term contributors are being treated lately. Wikipedia has a serious problem for sure. I wish you all the best. -- Toshio Yamaguchi ( tlk− ctb) 12:30, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and I included you in the list on my userpage. -- Toshio Yamaguchi ( tlk− ctb) 12:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing,
Beryllium poisoning , has been proposed for a
merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going
here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you.
Scray (
talk)
05:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
All I have to say. Sorry to see you go; I really hope you reconsider. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 17:34, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:Andra albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 18:35, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:The Answer albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 18:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:Faze video albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 19:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi Rich Farmbrough, this is Colton Cosmic. I noticed where you understood my position at Jimbo Wales' talk page. I am asking you to consider posting the following for me at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations (there's a "request" button halfway down the page).
Mr. Farmbrough, I understand if you choose not to do this. If that is the case, would you at least post at my user page that I maintain as of 25 Nov. 2012 that I did not sockpuppet or abuse multiple accounts. Colton Cosmic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.211.155.191 ( talk) 16:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beyond Eagle and Swastika, since you contributed to the article. Thanks. BigJim707 ( talk) 03:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
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Thank u for your efforts vis-a-vis Penyulap! Ihardlythinkso ( talk) 22:06, 1 November 2012 (UTC) |
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Dear Rich, well done for contributing over a million edits to the English language Wikipedia. Ϣere SpielChequers 13:22, 1 November 2012 (UTC) |
Howdy chief. This RfD relates to a set of redirects you created in 2006. - TB ( talk) 22:23, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
I just made an discovery about that redirect, that I posted to it's RFD, that answers your question about why nobody has written article. Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 13:33, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
Emmette Hernandez Coleman ( talk) 02:02, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
Bish, Elen, Rich: I've been trying to work out in my head how to say this, hoping to formulate something especially enlightened, pithy, succinct or compelling. Having crossed paths with all of you all overs the years, I've developed appreciation and respect for your efforts here. Seeing this develop has been like watching the beginning of a car crash: you see it develop, you know it's going to be bad, and there doesn't seem like there's a damn thing you can do to stop it. The best I've come up with is:
You're all acting like idiots, please stop.
I don't see specific enumeration, or relative ranking of your recent missteps, as a useful exercise. Penyulap was blocked by Coren back in July, followin an ANI discussion, so the good or bad of the block is on him. Whether or not Penyulap's talk page access is enabled isn't really significant to Wikpedia - the Encyclopedia. It's not that important, and certainly not important enough for ya'll to be at each other's throats. You all are hereby banned by the Ent from interacting with each other for a week or so, or until your brains return to their usually rational state. This ban will not be enforced by blocks, threats or noticeboard dramas, but rather (hopefully) by their being enough sanity in your respective brains to see the wisdom in what a very old Ent is sayin. Nobody Ent 15:17, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
...is a great template. Thanks.
It's not important at all, but I thought I'd let you know that it's broken by {{ u}} - I'd fix it but my templating skills aren't good enough to debug the problem.
Expected:
Actual:
Best, — Hex (❝?!❞) 15:18, 3 November 2012 (UTC).
I have started a discussion about your apparent violation of your arbcom imposed restrictions at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Rich Farmbrough. Note that the case also mentions that the alleged arbcom restriction violations are also clear violations of your indefinite Wikipedia:Editing restrictions. Fram ( talk) 09:18, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
-- Redrose64 ( talk) 09:41, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
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-- Redrose64 ( talk) 18:16, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
FYI: I replied to your comments on the recruitment policy RFC. -- EpochFail( talk| work) 14:41, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Heyo. You may wish to re-write your comment at Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2012 November 5#Template:This template is used in several articles, as the template is not intended to ever be used in articles, but merely as an info/warning ombox in Template: namespace. It and its main alias ({{ SA}}) are transcluded in 117 instances (as template-documentation). ;) — Quiddity ( talk) 21:01, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
Copied and undented from Penyulap's talk page; that isn't the place for this. — Coren (talk) 00:43, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Nice to see you are prejudging the ombudsman complaint. But once the ombudsman complaint has been made, Courcelles should not be taking additional admin actions against the complainant. We have over 1,000 admins only a handful count as involved. And it would be bad enough if there was cause for the block, but clearly there isn't, which makes it look like a revenge block. That's why I describe it as a monumental gaffe.
Rich
Farmbrough,
22:03, 5 November 2012 (UTC).
I don't believe for a minute that you could be suggesting seriously that an administrator should be automatically considered WP:INVOLVED as soon as someone makes some vague complaint, regardless of merit or relevance. This isn't about propriety and involvement, it's about wanting to disqualify an administrator whose decision you find disagreeable; the putative email to the ombudsmen commission is just a pretext. — Coren (talk) 00:37, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
I have started a discussion at WP:AN#Rich Farmbrough's editing restriction. Fram ( talk) 09:54, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
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I award you the purple barnstar with oakleaf cluster, for equanimity, under continual hounding. You have proven by your conduct, too good for this toxic culture; may you bring productivity to whatever team you grace by your efforts. Slowking4⇔ †@1₭ 22:06, 6 November 2012 (UTC) |
The community has restricted you per the following: Regardless of the editing method (i.e. manual, semi-automatic, or automatic; from any account), Rich Farmbrough is indefinitely prohibited from mass creating pages in any namespace, unless prior community approval for the specific mass creation task is documented. The definition of "mass creation" and the spirit of the restriction follows Wikipedia:BOTPOL#Mass_article_creation. [1] [2] is a clear violation of that restriction, as there is no prior approval. Accordingly, I have blocked you for two weeks, since you were already blocked for one week in September 2011 for violating this restriction. The rationale behind this restriction is the same rationale behind the automation restriction: complaints regarding mistakes such as inappropriate tagging, requiring users to check over your work.
For the record, [3] is highly inappropriate as a personal attack, and your battleground mentality at Courcelles' talk page is also worrisome (there is a difference between discussion and badgering). However, I did not factor either of those into the block. Also for the record, I haven't taken the time to figure out who Penyulap is, so I have no opinion in that matter. -- Rs chen 7754 09:58, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
<meh> If I was Rschen I would probably have thought I needed blocking. Rschen was doubtless biased by my calling out of Courcelles on his WP:INVOLVED block of Penyulap, but nonetheless can't be faulted for not knowing that Fram regularly attacks me using AN , AN/I, ARbcom and anything else he can. Nor could he be expected to know that the editing restriction is under dispute, and I had served notice that I was going to start addressing some of these historical anomalies.
It is certainly true that I won't be able to request administrator intervention in the case of Courcelles/Penyulap, so that is a shame. While Wikipedia is innovative, we have many of the characteristics of previous organisations, including documented cases of "bad eggs" in Arbcom, so why we think we should be free of people simply making wrong decisions based on prejudice and lack of application is a mystery.
I do think it is not a good idea to block an established editor who has only had 3 minutes notice of a discussion.
Rich
Farmbrough,
12:36, 6 November 2012 (UTC).
To whom it may concern,
--begin--
This idea that Wikipedia is not "Real Life" is fallacious. I have had at lest two editors contacting me saying that they were suffering ill health because of abuse on Wikipedia, and two who have felt close to taking their own lives. In every case but one administrators (individuals, not as a cadre) were responsible.
You have to remember our editor demographic corresponds very closely to the suicide demographic. It is only a matter of time before "Wikipedia editor takes own life" is a headline, and I just hope that when that evil day happens none of us have anything to reproach ourselves with.
(Note: We have of course lost editors to suicide, but not due to Wikipedia a far as I know.)
Rich
Farmbrough,
03:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
--end--
Thanks.
Rich
Farmbrough,
03:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
Hi Rich - really nice to meet you in Cambridge the other day. I see you've been involved at some point with WP:WikiProject French communes, and wondered if you knew any general context for a question I have about French communes. They've been relatively well-served by interwiki bot efforts: e.g. User:Rar's bot putting them up on uk.wiki in early 2010, with the result that the Ukrainian wiki has 30 times as many geotagged French articles as US articles. Do you have any idea why they should have been so widely ported across different wikis, compared to similar administrative units in other countries? Was the structured data for them fuller / available earlier / differently licensed / inherently more interesting than that for other countries? Any hypotheses or suggestions as to who might know welcome! Best wishes, Dsp13 ( talk) 11:51, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
{{
Infobox settlement}}
or having the infobox made into a wrapper, unfortunately they divereged.I have sent an email, followed by a short postscript to the arbitration committee. 24 hours later I have had no response from a functionary that it has been forwarded to the list (or declined). The same thing happened in May, and I never got a response. I am aware that I am not the only person that ArbCom has ignored, however it seems to me that it is a matter for the Committee, although even then I would expect them to send me a mail saying "we have decided to ignore you" rather than the mailing list moderators.
I would appreciate some clarification of what's happening here, this is a time sensitive issue, and I cannot for the sake of the encyclopaedia simply let this matter drop. I will be deciding my next steps, if necessary, when I return to my desk in about 5 hours.
All the best,
Rich
Farmbrough,
06:13, 8 November 2012 (UTC).
Hi, Rich. I am contacting you because you recently left a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/3rd bundle of channel lineups. I have just created another AfD, nominating List of Net channels for deletion. If you are interested, you can leave a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Net channels. Thanks. -- Wikipedical ( talk) 03:21, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
The UTRS system is hosted on toolserver. Who has access to this data?
Rich
Farmbrough,
20:45, 8 November 2012 (UTC).
Done
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SpielChequers
22:49, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
Can someone send me the text of
Salmon Fishing, please?
Rich
Farmbrough,
20:31, 8 November 2012 (UTC).
"This account has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that the operator has abusively used one or more accounts."
Can someone change this to something that makes sense such as
"This account has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that the operator has abusively used an alternate account."
Rich
Farmbrough,
22:33, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
{{
IP sock}}
, so this should only be used on named accounts. If there is no other named account then this is the sockmaster, I would presume,and should be tagged as such."This account has been blocked indefinitely because CheckUser confirms that the operator has abusively used more than one account."
(OK there are still problems when they haven't been abusive, but we have templates for that - sock of an indeffed user, sock of a blocked user, I am sure are wordings I have seen. I even saw one that told the future and said it was an account that was going to be used abusively, but that is a tangent.)
User:Dohardthings was warned for vandalism and (possible) socking, on 24 October. The user subsequently created a good faith article on the same day. On the 4th of November Elen of the Roads blocked this editor, for "abusive socking".
Can some uninvolved admin unblock, please.
Rich
Farmbrough,
16:59, 7 November 2012 (UTC).
{{
Uw-agf-sock}}
template "Your editing pattern indicates that you may be using multiple accounts or coordinating editing with people outside Wikipedia."{{
checkuser}}
is because the checkuser has more information available to make a decision than non-checkusers do. For instance, I double checked Elen's block to see if it was reasonable to unblock, and found that the editor is (a) clearly not a child, (b) sufficiently technically astute to attempt to dissimulate the socking (though not very well), (c) attempting said dissimulation before they were warned, and (d) flat out lying about it.Your assumptions were incorrect, which is quite normal since you based them on incomplete information. Where you erred is that in your zeal to find fault With Elen, you simply presumed that the blocks were bad even though you knew you did not have enough information to make a judgement in the matter. — Coren (talk) 23:27, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
( ←) You're missing the point. It's not about how many UA strings there were, or how likely each was individually plausible (I'd have to check, but I'm pretty sure I saw one that claimed IE9 on NT4); it's about recognizing the "not a genuine child/newbie" pattern. I've often heard the "be nice to a vandal they may become a productive editor" meme, but I've never seen it actually occur. Newbies that behaved disruptively because they didn't know better? Sure. Users who started with "malice aforethought"? Never. (Or at least, if they do, it's by starting over; not by reforming the original troll accounts). — Coren (talk) 14:59, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
"(b) blockers who don't have enough knowledge to analyse topology and evaluate collateral damage. The latter is, thankfully, very rare from checkusers; but as long as admins get to do range blocks we'll keep running into that problem. That needs a fix in policy and thus community consensus."
I was going to head this section "Wiki-break" because I would love to come back to editing, whether it's bot-running, turtles, viruses, templates, vandal fighting or hosting at tea-house.
Unfortunately when I look at the options open to me, I find I am hemmed in at every turn by the hasty actions of one administrator a couple of years ago that have gradually made editing a misery instead of a pleasure.
The option of a clean start is denied to me, the only way I can make the contributions I want to on Wikipedia is either if I fight to get the editing restrictions removed (they run 'til the end of time) and the arbcom decision overturned, or if the community were to offer me an amnesty. I do not have the energy for the former, and I can virtually write the script if someone were to request the latter.
While I enjoy a robust discussion, the conversations I have been having with (doubtless well meaning) arbitrators are such that they never give ground to mere reason, only (and then reluctantly, and not always) to incontrovertible fact. It also pains me that in order to get a tiny concession from an administrator it took two months of work and she was "quite upset" (which in British English means "very upset") at the end of it. I am not here to upset people, I am here to make knowledge available.
From 2007, following multiple bereavements I was suffering for a long time from clinical depression, a fact which I shared with no-one for at least three years. I am proud to have made it through this tough time, and working on Wikipedia, and the camaraderie helped. But starting September 2010, a particularly nasty AN/I thread was kicked off and from there on in things have been downhill. I have no intention of returning to those dark days, and having had occasion recently to review the AN/I threads and the Arbcom case I have been reminded how awful they were.
I happened to notice, this morning, that {{
Wikify}}
has been deprecated. I would have liked to have been on the discussion, as I have been very involved with that template - I took a brief look at the edit history, and saw that my last edit (in 2011) had been reverted by Fram. It brought it home just how much he is there at every turn, backed up by CBM and people who make their mind up before they know the facts, and then are not prepared to change it.
So as of now I will be doing the following:
To all other intents and purposes on en:Wikipedia, for the time being at least, this editor is:
All the best.
Rich
Farmbrough,
12:36, 9 November 2012 (UTC).
All the best Rich. I have hopes that Wikipedia will improve. It may not be now, but it will be in the future. I hope to see you come back when that happens. Don't let yourself get identified as you when you're editing as an IP.— cyberpower ChatLimited Access 16:46, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
I understand how you feel Rich. Lord knows I have made my opinions about the situation known and I am sorry if I caused you any additional discomfort in that. I just couldn't sit by and watch the things that were going on. I basically retired from editing myself and only came back to comment on the block. Since you haev decided to Retire as well, I see no resaon to continue to fight an admittedly lost cause.
I truly do wish you the best and I hope this all turns out for the best. I will likely not be editing again after this either. I think this will be marked as one of the saddest days of Wikipedia. Good luck my friend. Kumioko ( talk) 18:51, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
There are some real bastards around here.
You are not one of those.
The other languages of WP are a lot less vexing.
Varlaam (
talk)
00:50, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
The Bastards! I was been wondering when it would come to this. This is a sad day for Wikipedia. The Bastards will be jolly proud of themselves. Whilst one might read the preceding phrase with a touch of irony, I'm actually sure the Bastards are actually proud of themselves for having eliminated "an enemy". But for me, I'm just gutted that one of my first ports of call just been hounded out of wiki-existence. <sniff, sob, blows nose on hankie> -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 01:55, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks It's been a pleasure getting to know you here and in real life as well, Rich. I hope that the time comes when you change your mind, but if not, I hope that you'll find some other venue for helping to give free knowledge to others. I don't know all of the ins and outs of all of your disputes, but I do know that you've been nothing but a gentleman to me and the world could use a few more of them. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 08:09, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
It is a real shame to see the second most prolific editor retire from Wikipedia. I too have had editing restrictions placed on me as a result of Frams actions. In both case the wiki-punishment does not suit the perceived "wiki-crime" IMO. -- Alan Liefting ( talk - contribs) 14:38, 10 November 2012 (UTC)
I am very sorry to see you go. It is disgusting to see how some long-term contributors are being treated lately. Wikipedia has a serious problem for sure. I wish you all the best. -- Toshio Yamaguchi ( tlk− ctb) 12:30, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Oh, and I included you in the list on my userpage. -- Toshio Yamaguchi ( tlk− ctb) 12:32, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
An article that you have been involved in editing,
Beryllium poisoning , has been proposed for a
merge with another article. If you are interested in the merge discussion, please participate by going
here, and adding your comments on the discussion page. Thank you.
Scray (
talk)
05:13, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
All I have to say. Sorry to see you go; I really hope you reconsider. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa? Lo dicono a Signa. 17:34, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:Andra albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 18:35, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:The Answer albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 18:38, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Category:Faze video albums, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Mike Selinker ( talk) 19:08, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi Rich Farmbrough, this is Colton Cosmic. I noticed where you understood my position at Jimbo Wales' talk page. I am asking you to consider posting the following for me at en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations (there's a "request" button halfway down the page).
Mr. Farmbrough, I understand if you choose not to do this. If that is the case, would you at least post at my user page that I maintain as of 25 Nov. 2012 that I did not sockpuppet or abuse multiple accounts. Colton Cosmic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.211.155.191 ( talk) 16:36, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beyond Eagle and Swastika, since you contributed to the article. Thanks. BigJim707 ( talk) 03:08, 30 November 2012 (UTC)