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Dr Debug (
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02:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I believe you may have acted hastily and missed the point that I made in my edit summary about why "Abuse of the SP label" was an entirely appropriate section header considering the two different major items we had to discuss under that header. Please read my explanation on the talk page before reverting it again.
Also... please don't mark edits likely to be disputed as minor edits. Minor edits should be basically housekeeping edits -- if you can picture someone objecting to the edit, it's almost certainly not a minor edit. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Really Spooky I am getting the impression you think I am a sock of Milo from this comment: Hi, Milo. Don't forget about this :) Really Spooky 09:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC) Anynobody 01:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I notice that you seem to have had some issues with Milomedes' alleged sockpuppetry. I'm having similar issues myself, and believe this may be part of a much larger pattern of behaviour. Would you mind taking a look at this RFC and making a contribution if you belive it's warranted. -- Gene_poole 02:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you seem to know what you are talking about (rare sometimes). Would you mind helping to wikify this article: Church of Scientology Moscow versus Russia? CSI LA 21:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Somtimes responses aren't necessary. Lsi john 13:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. :-} Just saw this. I found it interesting. Lsi john 16:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Really Spooky! Thanks for your response to me, explaining the WP:OR issue! I think I can now understand your point and I am grateful that you took the time to explain it to me! With Regards! -- AussieOzborn au 08:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
What do you know about the Hamburg "Task Force" except for a flashy title? There is not even a lawyer working there and what they say has no meaning for the judgment at all. Following that logic I could write a "brief" about the ECHR judgment as well and get it broadly featured in that article as well. This section is misleading and spreading a lie in Wikipedia. Please help me understand our POV here. COFS 02:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
ugh, I understand why you just reverted me...this bias. PS. Of course a lawyer is employed in the work group. -- Stan talk 15:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
What is a reliable source?
Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy, or are authoritative in relation to the subject at hand.
Reliable sources are also primary or secondary sources. Wikipedia is none of the above. Secondary sources generally do the original research which we then cite. Wiki articles can be 'referenced' inside each other, but cannot be cited as the basis for the facts.
Besides this, the referenced article could be deleted, or modified and thus the information being cited would disappear. Or two articles could link circularly to each other, proving each other, and yet proving nothing.
Hopefully this helps. Lsi john 12:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Tertiary sources are publications, such as encyclopedias, that sum up other secondary sources, and sometimes primary sources. (Wikipedia itself is a tertiary source.) Some tertiary sources are more reliable than others, and within any given tertiary source, some articles may be more reliable than others. For example, articles signed by experts in Encyclopaedia Britannica and encyclopedias of similar quality can be regarded as reliable secondary sources instead of tertiary ones. Unsigned articles may be less reliable, but they may be used so long as the encyclopedia is a high quality one.
Original research that creates primary sources is not allowed. However, research that consists of collecting and organizing information from existing primary and/or secondary sources is, of course, strongly encouraged. All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources. This is not "original research"; it is "source-based research", and it is fundamental to writing an encyclopedia.
Although most articles should rely predominantly on secondary sources, there are rare occasions when they may rely entirely on primary sources (for example, current events or legal cases). An article or section of an article that relies on a primary source should (1) only make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is easily verifiable by any reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge, and (2) make no analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims. Contributors drawing on entirely primary sources should be careful to comply with both conditions.
Please provide your opinion and input in the Mediation Cabal Case. Alpta 19:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated the article for deletion. You may comment here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of groups referred to as cults (all). ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Why did you unilaterally move this page? There was no consensus for this. I realise that User:Smee asserted five months ago that a 'majority' had voted for the change, but if you read the talk pages carefully this is misleading, because there was certainly no consensus for change, and the vote was carried out contrary to WP:POLLS. That is why the change was never made. I ask that you please move the article back to its proper place. -- Really Spooky 09:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Welcome!
Hello, Really Spooky, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a
Wikipedian! Please
sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out
Wikipedia:Where to ask a question, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}}
on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome!
Dr Debug (
Talk)
02:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
I believe you may have acted hastily and missed the point that I made in my edit summary about why "Abuse of the SP label" was an entirely appropriate section header considering the two different major items we had to discuss under that header. Please read my explanation on the talk page before reverting it again.
Also... please don't mark edits likely to be disputed as minor edits. Minor edits should be basically housekeeping edits -- if you can picture someone objecting to the edit, it's almost certainly not a minor edit. -- Antaeus Feldspar 01:42, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Really Spooky I am getting the impression you think I am a sock of Milo from this comment: Hi, Milo. Don't forget about this :) Really Spooky 09:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC) Anynobody 01:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I notice that you seem to have had some issues with Milomedes' alleged sockpuppetry. I'm having similar issues myself, and believe this may be part of a much larger pattern of behaviour. Would you mind taking a look at this RFC and making a contribution if you belive it's warranted. -- Gene_poole 02:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, you seem to know what you are talking about (rare sometimes). Would you mind helping to wikify this article: Church of Scientology Moscow versus Russia? CSI LA 21:30, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Somtimes responses aren't necessary. Lsi john 13:35, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. :-} Just saw this. I found it interesting. Lsi john 16:35, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi Really Spooky! Thanks for your response to me, explaining the WP:OR issue! I think I can now understand your point and I am grateful that you took the time to explain it to me! With Regards! -- AussieOzborn au 08:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
What do you know about the Hamburg "Task Force" except for a flashy title? There is not even a lawyer working there and what they say has no meaning for the judgment at all. Following that logic I could write a "brief" about the ECHR judgment as well and get it broadly featured in that article as well. This section is misleading and spreading a lie in Wikipedia. Please help me understand our POV here. COFS 02:11, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
ugh, I understand why you just reverted me...this bias. PS. Of course a lawyer is employed in the work group. -- Stan talk 15:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
What is a reliable source?
Reliable sources are credible published materials with a reliable publication process; their authors are generally regarded as trustworthy, or are authoritative in relation to the subject at hand.
Reliable sources are also primary or secondary sources. Wikipedia is none of the above. Secondary sources generally do the original research which we then cite. Wiki articles can be 'referenced' inside each other, but cannot be cited as the basis for the facts.
Besides this, the referenced article could be deleted, or modified and thus the information being cited would disappear. Or two articles could link circularly to each other, proving each other, and yet proving nothing.
Hopefully this helps. Lsi john 12:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
Tertiary sources are publications, such as encyclopedias, that sum up other secondary sources, and sometimes primary sources. (Wikipedia itself is a tertiary source.) Some tertiary sources are more reliable than others, and within any given tertiary source, some articles may be more reliable than others. For example, articles signed by experts in Encyclopaedia Britannica and encyclopedias of similar quality can be regarded as reliable secondary sources instead of tertiary ones. Unsigned articles may be less reliable, but they may be used so long as the encyclopedia is a high quality one.
Original research that creates primary sources is not allowed. However, research that consists of collecting and organizing information from existing primary and/or secondary sources is, of course, strongly encouraged. All articles on Wikipedia should be based on information collected from published primary and secondary sources. This is not "original research"; it is "source-based research", and it is fundamental to writing an encyclopedia.
Although most articles should rely predominantly on secondary sources, there are rare occasions when they may rely entirely on primary sources (for example, current events or legal cases). An article or section of an article that relies on a primary source should (1) only make descriptive claims, the accuracy of which is easily verifiable by any reasonable, educated person without specialist knowledge, and (2) make no analytic, synthetic, interpretive, explanatory, or evaluative claims. Contributors drawing on entirely primary sources should be careful to comply with both conditions.
Please provide your opinion and input in the Mediation Cabal Case. Alpta 19:12, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated the article for deletion. You may comment here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of groups referred to as cults (all). ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:24, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
Why did you unilaterally move this page? There was no consensus for this. I realise that User:Smee asserted five months ago that a 'majority' had voted for the change, but if you read the talk pages carefully this is misleading, because there was certainly no consensus for change, and the vote was carried out contrary to WP:POLLS. That is why the change was never made. I ask that you please move the article back to its proper place. -- Really Spooky 09:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)