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I reverted your removal of the distinguish note between pedophilia and ephebophilia. My reasoning being that it is not POV. It is not a "claim" that ephebophilia is not pedophilia; it is a fact. The Pedophilia article does the same distinguishing at the top of its article as well. Because some people confuse the two, unless it is a sexual/romantic attraction to an 18-year-old or a 19-year-old...as opposed to a 17-year-old. Because, you know, some people act as though there is some huge physical difference age-wise between those ages when it involves which is a legal adult.
Is the reason you feel distinguishing is not needed at the top of this article is because it is already distinguished in its lead? Or is it because the lead basically says some people call ephebophilia pedophilia? I mean, just because some people call them the same thing does not make it POV to say that they are not the same thing, not when it is fact that they are not the same thing. Flyer22 ( talk) 19:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
A source in the article confirms it and many in the Pedophilia article confirm it. Just because some people are too ignorant to educate themselves on these matters or too lazy to distinguish does not give any weight to their calling "these philias" the same thing. Facts cannot be argued. 17 is clearly not the same thing as 7. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Again, there is a source in the article and plenty are in the Pedophilia article. Pedophilia being a controversial topic does not stop the fact that it is not the same thing as ephebophilia. There being many ways of defining children does not stop the fact that pedophilia is a sexual preference for prepubescent children. Being romantically/sexually attracted to a 17-year-old is not a mental disorder, especially since 17 looks no physicallly different age-wise than 18. If being romantically/sexually attracted to mid to late teenagers is a mental disorder, then it would mean that many normal people have a mental disorder. Brad Pitt as well, since he dated a 17-year-old Juliette Lewis when he was in his late 20s. Furthermore, ephebophilia is the primary or exclusve sexual preference for mid to late teenagers, which is different from a random romantic/sexual attraction to teenagers anyway, but it is still not a mental disorder and is still not pedophilia. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
You keep saying bring a source when a source is in the Ephebophilia article, as well as in the Pedophilia article. Many are in the Pedophilia article. Why haven't you taken this discussion there as well, to object to it being distinguished there? Is it because you know that they are not the same thing? A number of sources can be pulled from that article saying that it is not the same thing. Valid sources saying that pedophilia is the sexual preference for prepubescent children is proof that it is not the same thing as ephebophilia. By saying those words, it is saying that it is not the same thing. If it were, the Ephebophilia article wouldn't exist. I cannot even believe you are suggesting that a sexual attraction to 17-year-olds and even 18 and 19-year-olds is the same as pedophilia, especially when adults having sex with those ages is perfectly legal in many states in America. America does not allow pedophilia, which is why Age of consent is not 7 or anything close to it.
Yeah, to the talk page. Flyer22 ( talk) 21:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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I reverted your removal of the distinguish note between pedophilia and ephebophilia. My reasoning being that it is not POV. It is not a "claim" that ephebophilia is not pedophilia; it is a fact. The Pedophilia article does the same distinguishing at the top of its article as well. Because some people confuse the two, unless it is a sexual/romantic attraction to an 18-year-old or a 19-year-old...as opposed to a 17-year-old. Because, you know, some people act as though there is some huge physical difference age-wise between those ages when it involves which is a legal adult.
Is the reason you feel distinguishing is not needed at the top of this article is because it is already distinguished in its lead? Or is it because the lead basically says some people call ephebophilia pedophilia? I mean, just because some people call them the same thing does not make it POV to say that they are not the same thing, not when it is fact that they are not the same thing. Flyer22 ( talk) 19:48, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
A source in the article confirms it and many in the Pedophilia article confirm it. Just because some people are too ignorant to educate themselves on these matters or too lazy to distinguish does not give any weight to their calling "these philias" the same thing. Facts cannot be argued. 17 is clearly not the same thing as 7. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:03, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
Again, there is a source in the article and plenty are in the Pedophilia article. Pedophilia being a controversial topic does not stop the fact that it is not the same thing as ephebophilia. There being many ways of defining children does not stop the fact that pedophilia is a sexual preference for prepubescent children. Being romantically/sexually attracted to a 17-year-old is not a mental disorder, especially since 17 looks no physicallly different age-wise than 18. If being romantically/sexually attracted to mid to late teenagers is a mental disorder, then it would mean that many normal people have a mental disorder. Brad Pitt as well, since he dated a 17-year-old Juliette Lewis when he was in his late 20s. Furthermore, ephebophilia is the primary or exclusve sexual preference for mid to late teenagers, which is different from a random romantic/sexual attraction to teenagers anyway, but it is still not a mental disorder and is still not pedophilia. Flyer22 ( talk) 20:39, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
You keep saying bring a source when a source is in the Ephebophilia article, as well as in the Pedophilia article. Many are in the Pedophilia article. Why haven't you taken this discussion there as well, to object to it being distinguished there? Is it because you know that they are not the same thing? A number of sources can be pulled from that article saying that it is not the same thing. Valid sources saying that pedophilia is the sexual preference for prepubescent children is proof that it is not the same thing as ephebophilia. By saying those words, it is saying that it is not the same thing. If it were, the Ephebophilia article wouldn't exist. I cannot even believe you are suggesting that a sexual attraction to 17-year-olds and even 18 and 19-year-olds is the same as pedophilia, especially when adults having sex with those ages is perfectly legal in many states in America. America does not allow pedophilia, which is why Age of consent is not 7 or anything close to it.
Yeah, to the talk page. Flyer22 ( talk) 21:23, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Raven, thank you for your comment on the Blackdog image, but that is not a joke, a Black Dog is similar or the same as the Black Shuck and the image that I added is what they look like. You can see a similar image on the Black Dog page here: black dog. I am sort of new so I hope that it is appropriate to respond to your comment on your talk page. Thanks again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dr. VonPeacock ( talk • contribs) 03:27, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
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