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I thought about it, but since that other image has the diameters listed I figured I'd leave it as a more comprehensive comparison for the actual TNO page. I might create another one like it in the future, including Orcus, though. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 21:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I admit that there are two ways to handle redistricting where the number of districts in a state change: stay with the numbers, or stay with the people. An example may help:
2000: District 1 is held by politician A, District 2 by politician B. In 2002, a third seat is added to the state, District 3. Most of old district 1 goes into district 3; most of old district 2 stays in district 2, and district 1 now consists of parts of old district 1 and old district 2. Politician A runs in district 3 and wins. Politician B runs in district 1 and wins. Politician C runs in district 2 and wins. The three win again in 2004.
If we follow by DISTRICT, then politician A (now in district 3) was proceeded by no one, even though he/she had a predecessor in district 1 in 1998 or earlier; politician B (now in district 1) was proceeded by politician A, even though BOTH of them served in Congress together in 2001-2003 (and A may have been elected AFTER B, for all we know, which makes it very odd that he/she is a PREDECESSOR); and politician C was proceeded by politician B.
If we follow by POLITICIAN, then politician A was proceeded by whomever held district 1 before politician A won it; politician B likewise was proceeded by whomever held district 2 before politician A won it; and politician C was proceeded by no one. As may be clear, I prefer this example: politician C didn't have to run against an incumbent; there was really no predecessor.
And the matter could be far worse if seats are renumbered significantly; politician X could go from district N to district O, numerically, even though N (old census) and 0 (new census) overlap 95%, so that politician X clearly hasn't moved at all. And yet his/her predecessor would CHANGE. To me, it makes no sense a minor change in the boundary of a district, together with a new number, means that a predecessor CHANGES. To 95% of the individuals in that Congressional district, nothing whatsoever has changed except an arbitrary number for the district. John Broughton | Talk 16:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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I thought about it, but since that other image has the diameters listed I figured I'd leave it as a more comprehensive comparison for the actual TNO page. I might create another one like it in the future, including Orcus, though. └ OzLawyer / talk ┐ 21:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
I admit that there are two ways to handle redistricting where the number of districts in a state change: stay with the numbers, or stay with the people. An example may help:
2000: District 1 is held by politician A, District 2 by politician B. In 2002, a third seat is added to the state, District 3. Most of old district 1 goes into district 3; most of old district 2 stays in district 2, and district 1 now consists of parts of old district 1 and old district 2. Politician A runs in district 3 and wins. Politician B runs in district 1 and wins. Politician C runs in district 2 and wins. The three win again in 2004.
If we follow by DISTRICT, then politician A (now in district 3) was proceeded by no one, even though he/she had a predecessor in district 1 in 1998 or earlier; politician B (now in district 1) was proceeded by politician A, even though BOTH of them served in Congress together in 2001-2003 (and A may have been elected AFTER B, for all we know, which makes it very odd that he/she is a PREDECESSOR); and politician C was proceeded by politician B.
If we follow by POLITICIAN, then politician A was proceeded by whomever held district 1 before politician A won it; politician B likewise was proceeded by whomever held district 2 before politician A won it; and politician C was proceeded by no one. As may be clear, I prefer this example: politician C didn't have to run against an incumbent; there was really no predecessor.
And the matter could be far worse if seats are renumbered significantly; politician X could go from district N to district O, numerically, even though N (old census) and 0 (new census) overlap 95%, so that politician X clearly hasn't moved at all. And yet his/her predecessor would CHANGE. To me, it makes no sense a minor change in the boundary of a district, together with a new number, means that a predecessor CHANGES. To 95% of the individuals in that Congressional district, nothing whatsoever has changed except an arbitrary number for the district. John Broughton | Talk 16:59, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
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