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Yamla, My account was blocked for using multiple accounts, and I understand that my case is complex and difficult to explain. To clarify, Vocal is a friend I know from Facebook who lives in another country, and he occasionally shares his account with me. As a mentor to Vocal, I have occasionally used his account to provide guidance and support. (I am a mentor for numerous Wikipedians and others who are interested in Wikipedia, and I teach them how to write articles for Wikipedia on my Facebook page. I am famous in my country for my teaching Wikipedia and creating articles about the Burmese revolutionaries during the dark period, and you can verify this by asking other respected Burmese Wikipedia editors.)
To clarify, I invite you to compare our edit histories through CU or the User Compare Report [1]. It will be evident that our origins are not the same, and our contributions are only related to some AfD discussions and not our respective articles. Additionally, as a Check user, you may compare our devices and locations to verify that we are distinct.
Upon closer examination, you will notice that our locations and devices are significantly different. Additionally, as a user from Myanmar, I was unable to access Wikipedia during the country's coup d'état on February 1, 2021, due to a nationwide internet shutdown. The Myanmar military government has blocked all language editions of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia, part of a widening post-coup internet censorship regime imposed by the military junta. ( https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2021/feb/21/myanmar-blocks-wikipedia-in-all-languages-netblocks-2266920.html). During the time of the internet shutdown, I requested Vocal's help to edit Myanmar coup-related articles via Telegram when I had the opportunity to use the internet for a very brief period. Vocal made an edit on February 1 on a military-related topic, specifically about the coup leader Min Aung Hlaing. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Min_Aung_Hlaing&diff=prev&oldid=1004147888). As you can see, Vocal was able to make edits on Wikipedia while I was unable to do so due to the internet shutdown in Myanmar. I was only able to come online on February 4 with the help of a VPN, and I was granted an IP block exemption in order to be able to edit on Wikipedia using the VPN. (My first edit on Wikipedia after the coup, https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Aung_Pyae_Sone&oldid=1004822235). I still have the IP block exemption, but since I left my country in 2022, I am now able to edit without using a VPN. Please check my profile and activities during the coup ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Taung_Tan&oldid=1127830114).
To clarify, I was active on Wikipedia before Vocal's block in March 2021. Therefore, it is evident that I am not attempting to evade Vocal's block, and our contributions and interests are separate and distinct from each other. While I am working on improving Wikipedia articles related to my country, Vocal is working on topics that interest him and his country. Following Vocal's block on Wikipedia, I continued to remain active on the Myanmar project. Presently, I'm the leading editor for the Wikipedia Myanmar project after leaving my country. Meanwhile, Vocal focuses on topics related to Chinese mythology and India, which are not my areas of interest. Vocal reached out to me for help in getting his account unblocked after his appeal was rejected by an admin. Unfortunately, I wasn't available to assist him at the time. However, I now have some free time and am taking a closer look at his account block. I logged into his account and drafted an appeal on his behalf.
Regrettably, I forgot to log out of my Taung Tan account and carelessly made some grammar changes on Vocal's account, which led to my own account being blocked. While I acknowledge that I am associated with Vocal, I am not the same person as him. Additionally, it's worth noting that Vocal and I have different genders [2]. I would appreciate it if you could spend more time examining and contrasting our respective contributions to gain a clearer understanding of this situation. Taung Tan ( talk) 18:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Taung Tan ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
This is new for me. So, please point me in the direction of a method to unlock my account. I made this mistake as per Vocal's request for his block appeal. I did not hack his account, and I'm not a hacker. I'm a Wikipedia mentor. I would like to request a deep review by a checkuser. Please see; User talk:Taung Tan#Explain. Taung Tan ( talk) 19:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
A checkuser isn't needed here any more than there has already been one. It sounds like(though it's confusing) you used their account, and not the other way around. But editing on behalf of a blocked user is sufficient to block this account, and I don't disagree with Yamla's assessment. 331dot ( talk) 20:46, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
I suspect no one noticed your request. In any case, I consider it reasonable so while not an admin, I have fulfilled it by unarchiving this discussion. I assume you did not care about the other automated one as it didn't seem relevant to anything. I have also effectively disabled the archive bot by setting the period before archival at 100 years.
Note I have kept the template which should be place at the top of your talk page not in the middle. In fact due to its placement in the middle, it was archived by the bot by accident effectively fulfilling your request but too late. While there are other ways to add an archive box, it seemed the best way to keep it since the bot was used and you can now re-enable archiving in the future more easily.
As a final note, in my opinion it was reasonable for you to disable archiving by yourself which you could have done simply by editing the template for archival which is on your talk page. When site blocked or banned, you should only use your talk page to understand and appeal the block or ban. In my opinion turning off archiving of discussion of the block or ban or even just archiving in general is a reasonable part of this so it's perfectly fine for you to do while blocked if you retain access to your talk page.
In fact, even setting up archiving is IMO reasonable, especially since WP:OWNTALK is still generally taken to apply to a blocked editor. (Otherwise some of the exceptions don't make sense.)
And while I cannot speak for any admin, I'd strongly oppose removal of talk page access if it was the only thing you did to the extent of taking it up for discussion if I saw it. (For clarity this would only apply if the changes weren't disruptive. If a blocked editor kept changing their mind about archival every other day or something, this in itself can reasonably be considered disruptive.)
Hello, Taung Tan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Peesao Tonmai".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 06:47, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
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Yamla, My account was blocked for using multiple accounts, and I understand that my case is complex and difficult to explain. To clarify, Vocal is a friend I know from Facebook who lives in another country, and he occasionally shares his account with me. As a mentor to Vocal, I have occasionally used his account to provide guidance and support. (I am a mentor for numerous Wikipedians and others who are interested in Wikipedia, and I teach them how to write articles for Wikipedia on my Facebook page. I am famous in my country for my teaching Wikipedia and creating articles about the Burmese revolutionaries during the dark period, and you can verify this by asking other respected Burmese Wikipedia editors.)
To clarify, I invite you to compare our edit histories through CU or the User Compare Report [1]. It will be evident that our origins are not the same, and our contributions are only related to some AfD discussions and not our respective articles. Additionally, as a Check user, you may compare our devices and locations to verify that we are distinct.
Upon closer examination, you will notice that our locations and devices are significantly different. Additionally, as a user from Myanmar, I was unable to access Wikipedia during the country's coup d'état on February 1, 2021, due to a nationwide internet shutdown. The Myanmar military government has blocked all language editions of the Wikipedia online encyclopedia, part of a widening post-coup internet censorship regime imposed by the military junta. ( https://www.newindianexpress.com/world/2021/feb/21/myanmar-blocks-wikipedia-in-all-languages-netblocks-2266920.html). During the time of the internet shutdown, I requested Vocal's help to edit Myanmar coup-related articles via Telegram when I had the opportunity to use the internet for a very brief period. Vocal made an edit on February 1 on a military-related topic, specifically about the coup leader Min Aung Hlaing. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Min_Aung_Hlaing&diff=prev&oldid=1004147888). As you can see, Vocal was able to make edits on Wikipedia while I was unable to do so due to the internet shutdown in Myanmar. I was only able to come online on February 4 with the help of a VPN, and I was granted an IP block exemption in order to be able to edit on Wikipedia using the VPN. (My first edit on Wikipedia after the coup, https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Aung_Pyae_Sone&oldid=1004822235). I still have the IP block exemption, but since I left my country in 2022, I am now able to edit without using a VPN. Please check my profile and activities during the coup ( https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User:Taung_Tan&oldid=1127830114).
To clarify, I was active on Wikipedia before Vocal's block in March 2021. Therefore, it is evident that I am not attempting to evade Vocal's block, and our contributions and interests are separate and distinct from each other. While I am working on improving Wikipedia articles related to my country, Vocal is working on topics that interest him and his country. Following Vocal's block on Wikipedia, I continued to remain active on the Myanmar project. Presently, I'm the leading editor for the Wikipedia Myanmar project after leaving my country. Meanwhile, Vocal focuses on topics related to Chinese mythology and India, which are not my areas of interest. Vocal reached out to me for help in getting his account unblocked after his appeal was rejected by an admin. Unfortunately, I wasn't available to assist him at the time. However, I now have some free time and am taking a closer look at his account block. I logged into his account and drafted an appeal on his behalf.
Regrettably, I forgot to log out of my Taung Tan account and carelessly made some grammar changes on Vocal's account, which led to my own account being blocked. While I acknowledge that I am associated with Vocal, I am not the same person as him. Additionally, it's worth noting that Vocal and I have different genders [2]. I would appreciate it if you could spend more time examining and contrasting our respective contributions to gain a clearer understanding of this situation. Taung Tan ( talk) 18:22, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Taung Tan ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
This is new for me. So, please point me in the direction of a method to unlock my account. I made this mistake as per Vocal's request for his block appeal. I did not hack his account, and I'm not a hacker. I'm a Wikipedia mentor. I would like to request a deep review by a checkuser. Please see; User talk:Taung Tan#Explain. Taung Tan ( talk) 19:51, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
Decline reason:
A checkuser isn't needed here any more than there has already been one. It sounds like(though it's confusing) you used their account, and not the other way around. But editing on behalf of a blocked user is sufficient to block this account, and I don't disagree with Yamla's assessment. 331dot ( talk) 20:46, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.
I suspect no one noticed your request. In any case, I consider it reasonable so while not an admin, I have fulfilled it by unarchiving this discussion. I assume you did not care about the other automated one as it didn't seem relevant to anything. I have also effectively disabled the archive bot by setting the period before archival at 100 years.
Note I have kept the template which should be place at the top of your talk page not in the middle. In fact due to its placement in the middle, it was archived by the bot by accident effectively fulfilling your request but too late. While there are other ways to add an archive box, it seemed the best way to keep it since the bot was used and you can now re-enable archiving in the future more easily.
As a final note, in my opinion it was reasonable for you to disable archiving by yourself which you could have done simply by editing the template for archival which is on your talk page. When site blocked or banned, you should only use your talk page to understand and appeal the block or ban. In my opinion turning off archiving of discussion of the block or ban or even just archiving in general is a reasonable part of this so it's perfectly fine for you to do while blocked if you retain access to your talk page.
In fact, even setting up archiving is IMO reasonable, especially since WP:OWNTALK is still generally taken to apply to a blocked editor. (Otherwise some of the exceptions don't make sense.)
And while I cannot speak for any admin, I'd strongly oppose removal of talk page access if it was the only thing you did to the extent of taking it up for discussion if I saw it. (For clarity this would only apply if the changes weren't disruptive. If a blocked editor kept changing their mind about archival every other day or something, this in itself can reasonably be considered disruptive.)
Hello, Taung Tan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " Peesao Tonmai".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been deleted. When you plan on working on it further and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Liz Read! Talk! 06:47, 9 August 2023 (UTC)