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I don't see a consensus to move here. Since the comments by me and JHunterJ, there have been no further !votes or responses by the supporters. Why not run the proposed experiment to collect some hard data on primary usage? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:20, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
This discussion has been transferred to Talk:Santiago Bernabéu#Post move for further discussion. Please continue there. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 09:04, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Angel episode redirects to lists requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Template:R from noun. Since you had some involvement with the Template:R from noun redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Geolodus ( talk) 08:29, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Category:Redirects from nouns. Since you had some involvement with the Category:Redirects from nouns redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Geolodus ( talk) 08:29, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Hey Paine! Hope all is well. Any who, if you have some time, you may want to check out the section which WP:LISTRCAT redirects to, the aforementioned shortcut being a redirect I just created. The section seems a bit vague, but I believe that me undoing myself here is in compliance with that section, but I'm not sure. (In the example I provided, I removed the redirect from Category:2000 American television episodes since per WP:LISTRCAT, it seems that for redirects, any category that is neither a "redirect category" nor an in-universe category [in regards to fictional works] should not be used on redirects.) I figure you may be able to make more sense out of that than I can at the present moment. Cheers! Steel1943 ( talk) 05:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Hey there! Can you please move Hurricane Erick back to Hurricane Erick (2013) since this year's Erick has also intensified into a hurricane which makes the former no longer a primary topic. Thanks. CycloneYoris talk! 03:12, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
When you turned Viacom from a redirect into a DAB page, you may have overlooked WP:FIXDABLINKS.
The change broke 2,086 links, which will have to be fixed manually. That is 19.8% of all the bad links to DAB pages as of 7 August 2019. Narky Blert ( talk) 09:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
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It will be a lot easier for me to repair what was there than to start over with the silly form again. Is it OK if I revert your close and do that? Dicklyon ( talk) 03:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Paine, I wanted to get your thoughts on how to apply Rcats to a redirect with multiple errors—say, spelling and capitalization errors on the same redirect. I've usually just slapped {{ R unprintworthy}} on them and called it a day, though recently, I've tried documenting them all. You can see the latter approach at Bark The Polarbear. On one hand, it feels more useful than just saying "unprintworthy", but on the other, it feels wrong to put incorrect forms in the "correct" parameter (and if I put the correct form in that parameter, I'd be making multiple changes).
Hope that made sense. What do you think? -- BDD ( talk) 19:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
This one. Had my eye on it for some time - beat me to the punch! Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 00:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but may I ask how you came to the conclusion that six participants in support (counting the proposer) and six opposing constituted a consensus to move? I'm aware polling is not a substitute for discussion, but then if you examine the statements, one in favor of the proposal (by Red Slash) argued that "General American English" is more WP:CONCISE than "General American", showing, taken at face value, inadequate understanding of the WP:CRITERIA; even the proposer had to ask for clarification, to which Red Slash has not responded.
The companies with "General American" in their names, which you mentioned in the closing statement, were first mentioned after a majority of the participants had already stated their positions, and I see no discussion of them after that 13 August comment. So can you point to where "the term's ambiguity has been established"? Nardog ( talk) 01:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I would also like to add that there was equal or slightly greater tolerance toward "General American accent" than to "General American English" among those who participated. Even you said ["General American"] appears to be the undisputed common name for the subjects of accents and pronunciations of general American English
, acknowledging that "General American" unambiguously refers to certain aspects of what can be called "general American English", even though the article is exclusively about those certain aspects. So moving it to "General American English" seems increasing ambiguity, not reducing it, which the proposal was all about.
Nardog (
talk) 01:16, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
"while consensus has rejected the former title (and no request to bring it back should be made lightly), there is no consensus for the title actually chosen. And if anyone objects to the closer's choice, they may make another move request immediately, hopefully leading the article to its final resting place.". I come across this sometimes in requested moves - I find a consensus to move the title away from the current title, but consensus isn't particularly clear on where to move it, so the closer picks from options presented, with no prejudice for going with one of the alternates. No comment on this RM in particular, except that I read through the discussion myself but Paine beat me to the close. Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 01:24, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
in common usage according to reliable sources, so including it in the lead adds information that will be useful for readers. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 03:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
"General American accent" would at least make more sense than the proposed name(emphasis added). I find "General American English" more ambiguous than "General American" or "General American accent", defying Precision, and it also defies Conciseness when the article only discusses the accent.
only discusses the accent, then it doesn't actually reflect the sources and should be amended. I note that three sources cited just in the lead section discuss General American (English) as a dialect, whether genuine or specious (Kövecses 2000, Labov et al. 2006, Van Riper 1973/2014). More are given on the talk page. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 09:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Fantastic, bang-up job, and I say that regardless of which side I'd supported. It is a closer's job to assess the arguments. (As an aside, yes, I meant WP:CONCISE, because article titles are supposed to be concise, not just "short". I'll quote: "The goal of conciseness is to balance brevity with sufficient information to identify the topic to a person familiar with the subject area." I could've elaborated more in my comment in the discussion, I guess, but I thought that linking a policy meant it was pretty obvious that I was referring to the policy.) Red Slash 18:51, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi, can I ask if you were aware of this discussion/decision to suppress the template while we were discussing the update to it? — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 20:07, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, I'd be interested to hear what you think of this behaviour , whitewashing an RfD as if it never happened. Regards. Amanuensis Balkanicus ( talk) 20:53, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
The move was performed in violation of Wikipedia policies: there was no discussion at all yet. If you bend over to Serbian nationalists, I do not give a fuck for the article, I have more interesting things to do that to engage in wikiBalkan wars. Have a nice day. Staszek Lem ( talk) 21:13, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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Rojava is not the same as "North and East Syria" and this article is about North and East Syria not Rojava which means West of Kurdistan. The commonly used name in the media is North and East Syria, Rojava is totally unrelated to this. The article is misleading and sources there are original research.-- SharabSalam ( talk) 15:14, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Hiya can you explain your rationale for closing the move discussion as no consensus on Autonomous social center? I'm not seeing it. Thanks. Mujinga ( talk) 23:41, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hi Paine!
I wanted to drop you a message regarding the bold/italics for UFC event names (and alternate names). Of the 504 events with links in the 'Past Events' section, 502 follow the bold/italics convention. The two that do not are UFC Fight Night: Zabit vs. Kattar and UFC on ESPN: dos Anjos vs. Edwards.
If you are going to change the style for UFC Fight Night: Zabit vs. Kattar, I think it's probably best if you also change the other 502 to match. Thanks!
Hi Paine!
I'm a bit confused!
I'm not sure if you mean to actually ask me those two questions or if they're rhetorical and you are just venting your frustration... I haven't looked to see who wrote the titles in that way and I can't say what justifications they may or may not have had. If you are looking for answers to those queries, you can probably see who the original authors are in the history of each page, and open a discussion with those authors.
I have a feeling that you know a lot more about Wikipedia style convention than the authors who wrote the titles that way, though.
My contribution wasn't much; I just wrote a quick programming script to check all of the other titles for bold/italics and the 502/504 is what popped out, so I just changed one or two that I noticed were not the same as all of the others. You've brought the style guidelines to my attention, and I can see that using italics is not the correct way. My reason for reaching out, originally, was just to let you know what I had found, so you could take further action, if you saw fit.
-MvE
Not time pm me for disambiguation. It seem lots of Sai Kung are historically misused in wikipedia and should either pipe to the geo or the administrate area, and least likely point to the town which is very small. Matthew hk ( talk) 19:22, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Please be careful with this - only titles of works of art should be italicized, names should not. This is a complicated subject, partly covered at WP:VAMOS. It can be a thin line. If you are going to italicize the title in the text, where it is the subject of the article, you need to do the same to the article title. Johnbod ( talk) 19:33, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hey, I was looking again at the issue of {{ R comics from alternative name}} which we discussed here a while back. I was thinking of modifying the text of {{ R from alternative name}} and add "another name or identity" to it or creating a new redirect category template such as {{ R from alternative identity in fiction}}. Do you have any thoughts on this? -- Gonnym ( talk) 21:37, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
This is a redirect from a title that is another name or identity such as an alter ego, a pseudonym, a nickname, or a synonym of the target, or of a name associated with the target.", or of an alternative name for piece of work" or something similar. Elizabeth Tower is another such redirect. -- Gonnym ( talk) 10:36, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)/Archive_176#Suppress_rendering_of_Template:Wikipedia_books Dirk Hünniger ( talk) 20:29, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
Hi! I have updated the Ezra Bayda page with new information. I did so previously but it was removed because there was no verifiable reference given. Would you be willing to check the citation to make sure it is the correct form?
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Hi Paine Ellsworth,
Please reopen the Move review at
Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2020_February#2019–20_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak_(closed). I can understand the sentiment of "getting things done/ out the way", but the suggestion I'd made (which you took as the reason to close) rests upon it receiving support (or not, as may be the case). I can't start the whole argument from scratch again on the articles talk page (this is why I was asking "Thoughts ?"). Or put another way - if people disagree or don't support my suggestion, then I'd strongly oppose the move closure being endorsed (rather than overturned) - since the issues I've raised (and which other editors have agreed exist) still stand. Regards, and hoping for a swift response, so as to facilitate other editors chiming in at the MR,
Sean Heron (
talk) 16:32, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
P.S. Considering the amount of time and effort already spent on these RMs, I think its really worth giving it just a bit more time / considered discussion, to actually nail it now!
Oh :). Well that's very nice of you, thank you! Thanks also for the suggestions. I have to admit I took a bit of a break after asking you this, and thought I'd check back in later to see how things have played out :P (in general I'd say more pleasantly than I'd expected!).
It seems someone has started an effort to "pre-screen" what a sensible target name would be, went for it without a subpage though. I'm hoping that might lead somewhere, nonetheless! Thanks again, and regards Sean Heron ( talk) 23:07, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for moving International Loadstar. I never gave a thought to how much work it was. Again, thank you. No reply is needed. Sammy D III ( talk) 19:58, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm probably the only one who really understands what is going on with these pages. The move requests look at just one page rather than the several thousand that I've dealt with. The solution is to leave everything alone, and leave RC dioceses with the RC designation to set them apart from the Byz Catholics, Syro Malabar, etc.
Perhaps you can help me FIX this issue rather than simply reverting. Thank you for your time. I don't want to have to continually move pages that have been moved by people not understanding seeing the big picture and just looking at one page Benkenobi18 ( talk) 00:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
"general agreement"! Seriously? Johnbod ( talk) 15:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Don't normally complain about these things, but "general agreement" is the wrong phrase for 7/5 opinion split. Hyperbolick ( talk) 18:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
There appears to be no consensus, possibly bordering on "oppose move," to move the above-captioned pages to either their real names or the shorter, ambiguous (gamer) parenthetical qualifier. The discussion has already been relisted once, perhaps twice, but even if not twice, it's been de facto relisted due to the backlog of requested moves such that it's been outstanding for the equivalent of 3-4 weeks. It needs closure. I'd list at the applicable noticeboard, but there's a backlog there, too. So, since you're active in closing discussions, I thought I'd reach out to you to assess the consensus and appropriately weigh the arguments?
Thanks,
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Just as a heads-up if you haven't noticed. The RM bot can't parse nominations that have a non-link in them. It lists them on Wikipedia:Requested moves/Current discussions as if they have no nomination statement at all, which is clearly incorrect. (In the case of the EWWBL RM, it vomited up a string of characters from the URL, probably because there was a question mark in it.) I mentioned this in the edit summary, but it seemed a little brusque, so here's a comment instead. Nohomersryan ( talk) 03:11, 11 March 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I'm looking for some help, and it looks like you often help out at Template:Rail interchange. Would you be able to look at my edit request here if you don't mind? Thank you, ɱ (talk) 01:24, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Can you please clarify how you closed Talk:Channel 33 (Israel)#Requested move 28 February 2020 as "no consensus"? Looking at the strength of arguments, one side based their arguments on a community supported guideline which is very clear in its implementation, while the other side based it on WP:IDONTLIKEIT (as a side note, I'd say that your closing argument that the guideline was "rebutted" is very bad). Looking at a pure head count, you have 5 vs 3.5. In both cases there is a clear consensus to what the title should be and in this case isn't even a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS case. The fact that the RM was opened for a long time isn't a reason to close it. It was opened for over a month with a 3-1 and yet it was left open (a cynic would say that it was left open so that the close would not be for what it was leading to). -- Gonnym ( talk) 23:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
please clarify how you closed Talk:Channel 33 (Israel)#Requested move 28 February 2020 as "no consensus"?. What was your criteria for closing? As I've shown above, it couldn't be guideline based or number based, so I'm really interested to understand if there is an actual reason here or if this was some kind of supervote. -- Gonnym ( talk) 11:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Paine Ellsworth. Can you provide or point me to the background for the additions of redlink (delete to make way for page move) such as this one? Thanks. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 10:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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I am after many years still a beginner so I apologise if this is too trivial for someone who is obviously used to dealing with much more important subjects than this. But this is the very basis of science - the question of whether "the speed of light c, in a vacuum" is correct, or "the speed of light in vacuum c" is correct. I find the latter like yourself awkward and perhaps misleading to someone new to the subject. But my corrections have been removed twice. I am not happy with the present wording as it is not normal English and I am clearly being overtaken by editors who are better at working through the system. You have, like me, tried to place the common English but those with more stamina take over. I would like to know if you accepted the change because it was not worth the effort, or perhaps for another reason. That a vacuum is a condition and not a place is one argument which sounds like it could be plausible, but reading this, it always irritates my sense of correctness. Should I just leave this and get on with something more constructive, or try to fix it, since that is the very point in wikipedia - getting the clearest most transparent explanation possible? Thanks for your positive contributions - wikipedia should be FUN!2020 05 12 23:46 MET Ref:international system of units — Preceding unsigned comment added by Do better ( talk • contribs) 21:48, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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I don't see a consensus to move here. Since the comments by me and JHunterJ, there have been no further !votes or responses by the supporters. Why not run the proposed experiment to collect some hard data on primary usage? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:20, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
This discussion has been transferred to Talk:Santiago Bernabéu#Post move for further discussion. Please continue there. Paine Ellsworth, ed. put'r there 09:04, 8 July 2019 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Category:Angel episode redirects to lists requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the category has been empty for seven days or more and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion.
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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Category:Redirects from nouns. Since you had some involvement with the Category:Redirects from nouns redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. Geolodus ( talk) 08:29, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
Hey Paine! Hope all is well. Any who, if you have some time, you may want to check out the section which WP:LISTRCAT redirects to, the aforementioned shortcut being a redirect I just created. The section seems a bit vague, but I believe that me undoing myself here is in compliance with that section, but I'm not sure. (In the example I provided, I removed the redirect from Category:2000 American television episodes since per WP:LISTRCAT, it seems that for redirects, any category that is neither a "redirect category" nor an in-universe category [in regards to fictional works] should not be used on redirects.) I figure you may be able to make more sense out of that than I can at the present moment. Cheers! Steel1943 ( talk) 05:34, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
Hey there! Can you please move Hurricane Erick back to Hurricane Erick (2013) since this year's Erick has also intensified into a hurricane which makes the former no longer a primary topic. Thanks. CycloneYoris talk! 03:12, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
When you turned Viacom from a redirect into a DAB page, you may have overlooked WP:FIXDABLINKS.
The change broke 2,086 links, which will have to be fixed manually. That is 19.8% of all the bad links to DAB pages as of 7 August 2019. Narky Blert ( talk) 09:31, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
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It will be a lot easier for me to repair what was there than to start over with the silly form again. Is it OK if I revert your close and do that? Dicklyon ( talk) 03:07, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi Paine, I wanted to get your thoughts on how to apply Rcats to a redirect with multiple errors—say, spelling and capitalization errors on the same redirect. I've usually just slapped {{ R unprintworthy}} on them and called it a day, though recently, I've tried documenting them all. You can see the latter approach at Bark The Polarbear. On one hand, it feels more useful than just saying "unprintworthy", but on the other, it feels wrong to put incorrect forms in the "correct" parameter (and if I put the correct form in that parameter, I'd be making multiple changes).
Hope that made sense. What do you think? -- BDD ( talk) 19:39, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
This one. Had my eye on it for some time - beat me to the punch! Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 00:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I'm sorry, but may I ask how you came to the conclusion that six participants in support (counting the proposer) and six opposing constituted a consensus to move? I'm aware polling is not a substitute for discussion, but then if you examine the statements, one in favor of the proposal (by Red Slash) argued that "General American English" is more WP:CONCISE than "General American", showing, taken at face value, inadequate understanding of the WP:CRITERIA; even the proposer had to ask for clarification, to which Red Slash has not responded.
The companies with "General American" in their names, which you mentioned in the closing statement, were first mentioned after a majority of the participants had already stated their positions, and I see no discussion of them after that 13 August comment. So can you point to where "the term's ambiguity has been established"? Nardog ( talk) 01:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
I would also like to add that there was equal or slightly greater tolerance toward "General American accent" than to "General American English" among those who participated. Even you said ["General American"] appears to be the undisputed common name for the subjects of accents and pronunciations of general American English
, acknowledging that "General American" unambiguously refers to certain aspects of what can be called "general American English", even though the article is exclusively about those certain aspects. So moving it to "General American English" seems increasing ambiguity, not reducing it, which the proposal was all about.
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"while consensus has rejected the former title (and no request to bring it back should be made lightly), there is no consensus for the title actually chosen. And if anyone objects to the closer's choice, they may make another move request immediately, hopefully leading the article to its final resting place.". I come across this sometimes in requested moves - I find a consensus to move the title away from the current title, but consensus isn't particularly clear on where to move it, so the closer picks from options presented, with no prejudice for going with one of the alternates. No comment on this RM in particular, except that I read through the discussion myself but Paine beat me to the close. Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 01:24, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
in common usage according to reliable sources, so including it in the lead adds information that will be useful for readers. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 03:17, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
"General American accent" would at least make more sense than the proposed name(emphasis added). I find "General American English" more ambiguous than "General American" or "General American accent", defying Precision, and it also defies Conciseness when the article only discusses the accent.
only discusses the accent, then it doesn't actually reflect the sources and should be amended. I note that three sources cited just in the lead section discuss General American (English) as a dialect, whether genuine or specious (Kövecses 2000, Labov et al. 2006, Van Riper 1973/2014). More are given on the talk page. — Sangdeboeuf ( talk) 09:54, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Fantastic, bang-up job, and I say that regardless of which side I'd supported. It is a closer's job to assess the arguments. (As an aside, yes, I meant WP:CONCISE, because article titles are supposed to be concise, not just "short". I'll quote: "The goal of conciseness is to balance brevity with sufficient information to identify the topic to a person familiar with the subject area." I could've elaborated more in my comment in the discussion, I guess, but I thought that linking a policy meant it was pretty obvious that I was referring to the policy.) Red Slash 18:51, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
Hi, can I ask if you were aware of this discussion/decision to suppress the template while we were discussing the update to it? — Cheers, Steelpillow ( Talk) 20:07, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, I'd be interested to hear what you think of this behaviour , whitewashing an RfD as if it never happened. Regards. Amanuensis Balkanicus ( talk) 20:53, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
The move was performed in violation of Wikipedia policies: there was no discussion at all yet. If you bend over to Serbian nationalists, I do not give a fuck for the article, I have more interesting things to do that to engage in wikiBalkan wars. Have a nice day. Staszek Lem ( talk) 21:13, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
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Rojava is not the same as "North and East Syria" and this article is about North and East Syria not Rojava which means West of Kurdistan. The commonly used name in the media is North and East Syria, Rojava is totally unrelated to this. The article is misleading and sources there are original research.-- SharabSalam ( talk) 15:14, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
Hiya can you explain your rationale for closing the move discussion as no consensus on Autonomous social center? I'm not seeing it. Thanks. Mujinga ( talk) 23:41, 1 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hi and thanks for closing that RM. I'm not sure about the recategorisation though: as far as I can see, Category:Visayans and Category:Visayas are for two separate things (compare Visayans and Visayas). – Uanfala (talk) 20:34, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Paine!
I wanted to drop you a message regarding the bold/italics for UFC event names (and alternate names). Of the 504 events with links in the 'Past Events' section, 502 follow the bold/italics convention. The two that do not are UFC Fight Night: Zabit vs. Kattar and UFC on ESPN: dos Anjos vs. Edwards.
If you are going to change the style for UFC Fight Night: Zabit vs. Kattar, I think it's probably best if you also change the other 502 to match. Thanks!
Hi Paine!
I'm a bit confused!
I'm not sure if you mean to actually ask me those two questions or if they're rhetorical and you are just venting your frustration... I haven't looked to see who wrote the titles in that way and I can't say what justifications they may or may not have had. If you are looking for answers to those queries, you can probably see who the original authors are in the history of each page, and open a discussion with those authors.
I have a feeling that you know a lot more about Wikipedia style convention than the authors who wrote the titles that way, though.
My contribution wasn't much; I just wrote a quick programming script to check all of the other titles for bold/italics and the 502/504 is what popped out, so I just changed one or two that I noticed were not the same as all of the others. You've brought the style guidelines to my attention, and I can see that using italics is not the correct way. My reason for reaching out, originally, was just to let you know what I had found, so you could take further action, if you saw fit.
-MvE
Not time pm me for disambiguation. It seem lots of Sai Kung are historically misused in wikipedia and should either pipe to the geo or the administrate area, and least likely point to the town which is very small. Matthew hk ( talk) 19:22, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
Please be careful with this - only titles of works of art should be italicized, names should not. This is a complicated subject, partly covered at WP:VAMOS. It can be a thin line. If you are going to italicize the title in the text, where it is the subject of the article, you need to do the same to the article title. Johnbod ( talk) 19:33, 17 November 2019 (UTC)
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Hey, I was looking again at the issue of {{ R comics from alternative name}} which we discussed here a while back. I was thinking of modifying the text of {{ R from alternative name}} and add "another name or identity" to it or creating a new redirect category template such as {{ R from alternative identity in fiction}}. Do you have any thoughts on this? -- Gonnym ( talk) 21:37, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
This is a redirect from a title that is another name or identity such as an alter ego, a pseudonym, a nickname, or a synonym of the target, or of a name associated with the target.", or of an alternative name for piece of work" or something similar. Elizabeth Tower is another such redirect. -- Gonnym ( talk) 10:36, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for closing it. I could have sworn I had done so already. -- DannyS712 ( talk) 00:48, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
I request that you reopen and relist the man bites dog RM at Talk:Man_bites_dog#Requested_move_28_November_2019. It was closed at 18:39, less than half an hour after the latest !vote (mine) at 18:12. I think the question of primary topic needs to be given further consideration given the higher page views of other uses (film and company), as noted in my !vote, and perhaps overlooked by earlier contributors. A fresh look by others could not hurt. Thanks! -- В²C ☎ 18:52, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
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hot Tom and Jerry
No matter what concoction is your favorite to imbibe during this festive season I would like to toast you with it and to thank you for all your work here at the 'pedia this past year. Best wishes for your 2020 as well PE. MarnetteD| Talk 05:54, 17 December 2019 (UTC) |
This year's Reviewer of the Year is Rosguill. Having gotten the reviewer PERM in August 2018, they have been a regular reviewer of articles and redirects, been an active participant in the NPP community, and has been the driving force for the emerging NPP Source Guide that will help reviewers better evaluate sourcing and notability in many countries for which it has historically been difficult.
Special commendation again goes to Onel5969 who ends the year as one of our most prolific reviewers for the second consecutive year. Thanks also to Boleyn and JTtheOG who have been in the top 5 for the last two years as well.
Several newer editors have done a lot of work with CAPTAIN MEDUSA and DannyS712 (who has also written bots which have patrolled thousands of redirects) being new reviewers since this time last year.
Thanks to them and to everyone reading this who has participated in New Page Patrol this year.
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1 | Rosguill ( talk) | 47,395 | Patrol Page Curation |
2 | Onel5969 ( talk) | 41,883 | Patrol Page Curation |
3 | JTtheOG ( talk) | 11,493 | Patrol Page Curation |
4 | Arthistorian1977 ( talk) | 5,562 | Patrol Page Curation |
5 | DannyS712 ( talk) | 4,866 | Patrol Page Curation |
6 | CAPTAIN MEDUSA ( talk) | 3,995 | Patrol Page Curation |
7 | DragonflySixtyseven ( talk) | 3,812 | Patrol Page Curation |
8 | Boleyn ( talk) | 3,655 | Patrol Page Curation |
9 | Ymblanter ( talk) | 3,553 | Patrol Page Curation |
10 | Cwmhiraeth ( talk) | 3,522 | Patrol Page Curation |
(The top 100 reviewers of the year can be found here)
A recent Request for Comment on creating a new redirect autopatrol pseduo-permission was closed early. New Page Reviewers are now able to nominate editors who have an established track record creating uncontroversial redirects. At the individual discretion of any administrator or after 24 hours and a consensus of at least 3 New Page Reviewers an editor may be added to a list of users whose redirects will be patrolled automatically by DannyS712 bot III.
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Hi! I have updated the Ezra Bayda page with new information. I did so previously but it was removed because there was no verifiable reference given. Would you be willing to check the citation to make sure it is the correct form?
/info/en/?search=Ezra_Bayda#cite_ref-10
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16:08, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi Paine Ellsworth,
Please reopen the Move review at
Wikipedia:Move_review/Log/2020_February#2019–20_Wuhan_coronavirus_outbreak_(closed). I can understand the sentiment of "getting things done/ out the way", but the suggestion I'd made (which you took as the reason to close) rests upon it receiving support (or not, as may be the case). I can't start the whole argument from scratch again on the articles talk page (this is why I was asking "Thoughts ?"). Or put another way - if people disagree or don't support my suggestion, then I'd strongly oppose the move closure being endorsed (rather than overturned) - since the issues I've raised (and which other editors have agreed exist) still stand. Regards, and hoping for a swift response, so as to facilitate other editors chiming in at the MR,
Sean Heron (
talk) 16:32, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
P.S. Considering the amount of time and effort already spent on these RMs, I think its really worth giving it just a bit more time / considered discussion, to actually nail it now!
Oh :). Well that's very nice of you, thank you! Thanks also for the suggestions. I have to admit I took a bit of a break after asking you this, and thought I'd check back in later to see how things have played out :P (in general I'd say more pleasantly than I'd expected!).
It seems someone has started an effort to "pre-screen" what a sensible target name would be, went for it without a subpage though. I'm hoping that might lead somewhere, nonetheless! Thanks again, and regards Sean Heron ( talk) 23:07, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
Thank you for moving International Loadstar. I never gave a thought to how much work it was. Again, thank you. No reply is needed. Sammy D III ( talk) 19:58, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm probably the only one who really understands what is going on with these pages. The move requests look at just one page rather than the several thousand that I've dealt with. The solution is to leave everything alone, and leave RC dioceses with the RC designation to set them apart from the Byz Catholics, Syro Malabar, etc.
Perhaps you can help me FIX this issue rather than simply reverting. Thank you for your time. I don't want to have to continually move pages that have been moved by people not understanding seeing the big picture and just looking at one page Benkenobi18 ( talk) 00:17, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
"general agreement"! Seriously? Johnbod ( talk) 15:30, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
Don't normally complain about these things, but "general agreement" is the wrong phrase for 7/5 opinion split. Hyperbolick ( talk) 18:26, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
There appears to be no consensus, possibly bordering on "oppose move," to move the above-captioned pages to either their real names or the shorter, ambiguous (gamer) parenthetical qualifier. The discussion has already been relisted once, perhaps twice, but even if not twice, it's been de facto relisted due to the backlog of requested moves such that it's been outstanding for the equivalent of 3-4 weeks. It needs closure. I'd list at the applicable noticeboard, but there's a backlog there, too. So, since you're active in closing discussions, I thought I'd reach out to you to assess the consensus and appropriately weigh the arguments?
Thanks,
Doug Mehus
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Hi, I'm looking for some help, and it looks like you often help out at Template:Rail interchange. Would you be able to look at my edit request here if you don't mind? Thank you, ɱ (talk) 01:24, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
Can you please clarify how you closed Talk:Channel 33 (Israel)#Requested move 28 February 2020 as "no consensus"? Looking at the strength of arguments, one side based their arguments on a community supported guideline which is very clear in its implementation, while the other side based it on WP:IDONTLIKEIT (as a side note, I'd say that your closing argument that the guideline was "rebutted" is very bad). Looking at a pure head count, you have 5 vs 3.5. In both cases there is a clear consensus to what the title should be and in this case isn't even a WP:LOCALCONSENSUS case. The fact that the RM was opened for a long time isn't a reason to close it. It was opened for over a month with a 3-1 and yet it was left open (a cynic would say that it was left open so that the close would not be for what it was leading to). -- Gonnym ( talk) 23:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
please clarify how you closed Talk:Channel 33 (Israel)#Requested move 28 February 2020 as "no consensus"?. What was your criteria for closing? As I've shown above, it couldn't be guideline based or number based, so I'm really interested to understand if there is an actual reason here or if this was some kind of supervote. -- Gonnym ( talk) 11:01, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
Hi, Paine Ellsworth. Can you provide or point me to the background for the additions of redlink (delete to make way for page move) such as this one? Thanks. -- JHunterJ ( talk) 10:46, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
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I am after many years still a beginner so I apologise if this is too trivial for someone who is obviously used to dealing with much more important subjects than this. But this is the very basis of science - the question of whether "the speed of light c, in a vacuum" is correct, or "the speed of light in vacuum c" is correct. I find the latter like yourself awkward and perhaps misleading to someone new to the subject. But my corrections have been removed twice. I am not happy with the present wording as it is not normal English and I am clearly being overtaken by editors who are better at working through the system. You have, like me, tried to place the common English but those with more stamina take over. I would like to know if you accepted the change because it was not worth the effort, or perhaps for another reason. That a vacuum is a condition and not a place is one argument which sounds like it could be plausible, but reading this, it always irritates my sense of correctness. Should I just leave this and get on with something more constructive, or try to fix it, since that is the very point in wikipedia - getting the clearest most transparent explanation possible? Thanks for your positive contributions - wikipedia should be FUN!2020 05 12 23:46 MET Ref:international system of units — Preceding unsigned comment added by Do better ( talk • contribs) 21:48, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
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