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Please check out: Image:GAFTA2map.GIF, Image:GAFTA map.GIF, and other maps by User:Arab League, as all his maps may be up for deletion, as Image:GAFTA3map.GIF, Image:AGADIR AGREEMENT2.gif, and Image:AGADIR AGREEMENT1.GIF were removed. Thnaks. Wiz9999 ( talk) 11:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
I'd be happy to reduce the size of some non-free logos I uploaded, but I can't find any guidelines on exactly what pixel dimensions to reduce them to in order to keep OKBot happy. What criteria is it using when adding Template:Non-free reduce? The template only says to upload a "suitably sized thumbnail", but what does that mean? — mjb ( talk) 02:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I removed the nonfree-reduce template of Image:IsThisHeavenIowa.JPG. As I said in the comments I added to the image, the size currently in use is needed in the context of Field of Dreams. In fact, a slightly-larger image with clearer fine-print would be even better. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 04:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I would check this functionality of the bot - first I don't see it in approved tasks but that's only looking at the bot page so it would help to know what the task description was (I checked BAG but it's not listed there, presuming its an interwiki bot). That said, non-free reductions only start to be a concern when the image gets about 0.1 megapixels at least on en.wiki. However, that's not a hard-set number, and situations may require allowances above that. -- MASEM 14:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
This bot is not a sensible one. For starters there is no definition of what too big is? Image:Jellybabies.jpg is only 604 × 905 pixels and the company logo is only a portion of the image, this is small! Secondly the rationale for the image states that is low resolution in that the packaging is distorted.
I cannot see you can automate such a test. Traveler100 ( talk) 19:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
In most cases anything which is not obviously too high of a resolution is probably fine. Another approach to the rule of thumb is that if Wikipedia's software is forced to use a thumbnail of the image on the image description page, it is almost certainly an image of too high a resolution.
Attempting to resize many of our software screenshots to fit this completely arbitrary "500 pixel" guideline is going to make many of those images useless. Remember that these are almost always images with text or other user interface elements that, when sized smaller, are not going to be legible, or at the very least, will force users to struggle to understand what's going on.
I'd love to hear a sober rationale for this. I've been dealing with software screenshots on Wikipedia for three years now, and I've yet to hear a convincing argument for making screenshots that are smaller than their original resolution. If you struggle to find a good reason for this, then you should consider skipping images that are tagged as {{ Non-free software screenshot}}s, or at the very least, take the advice you've been offered by others and tag larger images with some kind of "manual check" template so that large screenshots can be reviewed to see if a smaller portion can be used. Warren -talk- 22:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/OKBot_4 you requested and were approved for permission to bot-tag images "higher or wider than 500px". That means the minimum size limit of the largest side is 501px). I'm going to start reverting instances where you tagged images whose maximum dimensions are 500px, as that's a more convenient solution than trying to rescale and replace images unnecessarily. Regards, -- DeLarge ( talk) 14:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Why have you so quickly removed a number of peoples' objections about this bot has done? They complaints are also not in you achieve pages. You are hiding the fact from the people who have just started complaining that others have also objected the the cavalier manner of what this bot has done. Checking the size of an image and then marking it as invalid is ridicules. Firstly you are not checking how many of those pixels are actual defining the logo in question or what quality is it reproduced in. It is also ignoring the justification text that people have input on the image pages. Traveler100 ( talk) 18:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Traveler100 ( talk) 06:45, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there any basis for your 500px cutoff? Yes, the bot is approved, but as far as I can tell there is no community basis for the decision that >500px constitutes too high a resolution. It seems to me that you plucked that number out of the air.
In my opinion, whether or not something is "high resolution" depends very strongly on the context, and no single Wikipedian has the right to pick a number and then use a bot to impose that number on the rest of us.
Hesperian 22:44, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Could you resize the Image:CaNTM2 jay.jpg picture. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.212.120.229 ( talk) 00:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
your bot stated the following image was too large and may be in copyright violation, i have now reduced the size - do you think this is acceptable or needs further reducing?
Image:AtlanticGoodwood Battle plan.jpg
Cheers-- EnigmaMcmxc ( talk) 14:27, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
How about giving me a clue as to what size to reduce the image to? It isn't a high resolution image anyway. -- Jameboy ( talk) 08:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Please check out: Image:GAFTA2map.GIF, Image:GAFTA map.GIF, and other maps by User:Arab League, as all his maps may be up for deletion, as Image:GAFTA3map.GIF, Image:AGADIR AGREEMENT2.gif, and Image:AGADIR AGREEMENT1.GIF were removed. Thnaks. Wiz9999 ( talk) 11:20, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
I'd be happy to reduce the size of some non-free logos I uploaded, but I can't find any guidelines on exactly what pixel dimensions to reduce them to in order to keep OKBot happy. What criteria is it using when adding Template:Non-free reduce? The template only says to upload a "suitably sized thumbnail", but what does that mean? — mjb ( talk) 02:17, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I removed the nonfree-reduce template of Image:IsThisHeavenIowa.JPG. As I said in the comments I added to the image, the size currently in use is needed in the context of Field of Dreams. In fact, a slightly-larger image with clearer fine-print would be even better. davidwr/( talk)/( contribs)/( e-mail) 04:45, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
I would check this functionality of the bot - first I don't see it in approved tasks but that's only looking at the bot page so it would help to know what the task description was (I checked BAG but it's not listed there, presuming its an interwiki bot). That said, non-free reductions only start to be a concern when the image gets about 0.1 megapixels at least on en.wiki. However, that's not a hard-set number, and situations may require allowances above that. -- MASEM 14:35, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
This bot is not a sensible one. For starters there is no definition of what too big is? Image:Jellybabies.jpg is only 604 × 905 pixels and the company logo is only a portion of the image, this is small! Secondly the rationale for the image states that is low resolution in that the packaging is distorted.
I cannot see you can automate such a test. Traveler100 ( talk) 19:52, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
In most cases anything which is not obviously too high of a resolution is probably fine. Another approach to the rule of thumb is that if Wikipedia's software is forced to use a thumbnail of the image on the image description page, it is almost certainly an image of too high a resolution.
Attempting to resize many of our software screenshots to fit this completely arbitrary "500 pixel" guideline is going to make many of those images useless. Remember that these are almost always images with text or other user interface elements that, when sized smaller, are not going to be legible, or at the very least, will force users to struggle to understand what's going on.
I'd love to hear a sober rationale for this. I've been dealing with software screenshots on Wikipedia for three years now, and I've yet to hear a convincing argument for making screenshots that are smaller than their original resolution. If you struggle to find a good reason for this, then you should consider skipping images that are tagged as {{ Non-free software screenshot}}s, or at the very least, take the advice you've been offered by others and tag larger images with some kind of "manual check" template so that large screenshots can be reviewed to see if a smaller portion can be used. Warren -talk- 22:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
At Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/OKBot_4 you requested and were approved for permission to bot-tag images "higher or wider than 500px". That means the minimum size limit of the largest side is 501px). I'm going to start reverting instances where you tagged images whose maximum dimensions are 500px, as that's a more convenient solution than trying to rescale and replace images unnecessarily. Regards, -- DeLarge ( talk) 14:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
Why have you so quickly removed a number of peoples' objections about this bot has done? They complaints are also not in you achieve pages. You are hiding the fact from the people who have just started complaining that others have also objected the the cavalier manner of what this bot has done. Checking the size of an image and then marking it as invalid is ridicules. Firstly you are not checking how many of those pixels are actual defining the logo in question or what quality is it reproduced in. It is also ignoring the justification text that people have input on the image pages. Traveler100 ( talk) 18:03, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Traveler100 ( talk) 06:45, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Is there any basis for your 500px cutoff? Yes, the bot is approved, but as far as I can tell there is no community basis for the decision that >500px constitutes too high a resolution. It seems to me that you plucked that number out of the air.
In my opinion, whether or not something is "high resolution" depends very strongly on the context, and no single Wikipedian has the right to pick a number and then use a bot to impose that number on the rest of us.
Hesperian 22:44, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
Could you resize the Image:CaNTM2 jay.jpg picture. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.212.120.229 ( talk) 00:20, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
Hi,
your bot stated the following image was too large and may be in copyright violation, i have now reduced the size - do you think this is acceptable or needs further reducing?
Image:AtlanticGoodwood Battle plan.jpg
Cheers-- EnigmaMcmxc ( talk) 14:27, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
How about giving me a clue as to what size to reduce the image to? It isn't a high resolution image anyway. -- Jameboy ( talk) 08:56, 30 November 2008 (UTC)