Hello, I'm
CarrieVS. I noticed that you made a change to an article, but you didn't provide a
reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to
include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on
my talk page. Thank you.
CarrieVS (
talk)
18:52, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Martin Sekulić requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. -- Vujkovica brdo ( talk) 12:50, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I was very surprised when you had said that you will be calling Gimnazija and the Karlovac Archive. That's some dedication! If you are writing your own work I must say that sources on Tesla may often be scarce. Wikipedia is a poor source on many things and Tesla's article is a great example. Tesla's life is covered by too little primary sources and you'll often find "facts" stated on article page that really don't have basis in any sources. Secondary sources often repeat each other and don't give any footnotes or referenced to the claims they make. I've done some research on my own in the sphere I'm interested in Tesla and I found a bunch of that kind of facts stated on wikipedia which really can't be verified. Take for instance Tesla's birthplace. You'll find that sources are all over the place, some older sources even claim Montenegro, Serbia. Tesla's ethnicity is another example. If you need any help regarding Wiki policies I would be glad to help. You must understand that experienced Wiki editors know how to push their own opinion so you have to watch out. Even now when you had found sources that explicitly mention Martin Sekulic (even a secondary source that explicitly says Tesla is speaking of Martin Sekulic in his autobiography) an editor had decided to say "some sources say" by which giving more detailed sources less weight. 141.138.20.5 ( talk) 18:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
I saw that request for deletion. I'll write my opinion tomorrow. But, yeah, you'll find many people here on Wikipedia that have their own reasons to push a certain opinion on Tesla. I think that the same went with that telegram you mentioned. They removed it from Wikipedia as unreliable, while it's kept in Zagreb museum. I think that they used this website to remove it: [3]. The site makes some good points, but Wikipedia needs secondary sources to do anything. Well at least in theory, although in practice, anything is possible. 141.138.27.160 ( talk) 22:26, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Also, I agree. Wikipedia is sometimes a waste of time. Once I spent months dealing with one editor who wanted to push his own opinion over a very simple edit. Well, I'm more interested in discussions and not so much in articles. =) 141.138.27.160 ( talk) 22:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
CarrieVS. I noticed that you made a change to an article, but you didn't provide a
reliable source. It's been removed for now, but if you'd like to
include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on
my talk page. Thank you.
CarrieVS (
talk)
18:52, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
A tag has been placed on Martin Sekulić requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:
Under the criteria for speedy deletion, pages that meet certain criteria may be deleted at any time.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. -- Vujkovica brdo ( talk) 12:50, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I was very surprised when you had said that you will be calling Gimnazija and the Karlovac Archive. That's some dedication! If you are writing your own work I must say that sources on Tesla may often be scarce. Wikipedia is a poor source on many things and Tesla's article is a great example. Tesla's life is covered by too little primary sources and you'll often find "facts" stated on article page that really don't have basis in any sources. Secondary sources often repeat each other and don't give any footnotes or referenced to the claims they make. I've done some research on my own in the sphere I'm interested in Tesla and I found a bunch of that kind of facts stated on wikipedia which really can't be verified. Take for instance Tesla's birthplace. You'll find that sources are all over the place, some older sources even claim Montenegro, Serbia. Tesla's ethnicity is another example. If you need any help regarding Wiki policies I would be glad to help. You must understand that experienced Wiki editors know how to push their own opinion so you have to watch out. Even now when you had found sources that explicitly mention Martin Sekulic (even a secondary source that explicitly says Tesla is speaking of Martin Sekulic in his autobiography) an editor had decided to say "some sources say" by which giving more detailed sources less weight. 141.138.20.5 ( talk) 18:32, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
I saw that request for deletion. I'll write my opinion tomorrow. But, yeah, you'll find many people here on Wikipedia that have their own reasons to push a certain opinion on Tesla. I think that the same went with that telegram you mentioned. They removed it from Wikipedia as unreliable, while it's kept in Zagreb museum. I think that they used this website to remove it: [3]. The site makes some good points, but Wikipedia needs secondary sources to do anything. Well at least in theory, although in practice, anything is possible. 141.138.27.160 ( talk) 22:26, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
Also, I agree. Wikipedia is sometimes a waste of time. Once I spent months dealing with one editor who wanted to push his own opinion over a very simple edit. Well, I'm more interested in discussions and not so much in articles. =) 141.138.27.160 ( talk) 22:35, 16 September 2016 (UTC)