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I uploaded a cleaned-up version of Image:Wildbluelogo.gif, replacing a 304x69 image with a 176x38 image. All I did was trim some white space and irrelevant pixels from the image, leaving the logo at the original scale. Now, when I view WildBlue, I see the old graphic resized to the dimensions of the new graphic. Utterly bizarre. I think it's a bug in the Wiki database software. Deleting the older file might fix the problem, but I need an administrator to do it for me. Please help. - Quicksilver T @ 11:25, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi. Your negative signs, that you've changed "-"s into in some articles, show up as question marks in my browser. Most websites seem to just use dashes; are you sure that this minor typesetting improvement is worth a loss of accessibility? -- Graue 22:32, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
Crap, sorry about that. I changed my UA string to "Lynx (compatible; w3m/0.5.1)" and now get the workaround -- an exclusive rather than inclusive list for getting the workaround might be a better idea, if you happen to be chatting with the developers.
Regardless, my original question about negative signs remains unanswered, you having responded to it with another question. So I'll ask again: are you sure this minor typesetting improvement is worth a loss of accessibility? -- Graue 00:17, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
As I understand it they are talking about different applications of the same thing. I had this confirmed by Dr. C.A.S.Hall, an expert in systems ecology, however I have had trouble talking about "electronic applications of ecology" because that area does not exist and many believe it OR so it is blocked. I've removed the merge proposal. It looks like we will have to wait for some time to clarify this matter up...which may be beneficial. Regards Sholto Maud 04:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, happy new year. I think as you are from the electronics world that you might be able to help out on sometime which I started today. At the electrical substation page I have started a subsection on protection systems and design.
I am looking for details of an event which occured many years ago, it is known to some as the luton flashover. A serious flashover occured at a major substation in Luton (england) and this caused a nation wide outage. Do you know anything about this event ? Cadmium 16:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Omegatron, I liked your unwatch script that adds "un" links on the watchlist. I modified yours to use AJAX, i.e. asynchronously unwatch the page without opening a new window, and cross out the entry from the watchlist. See User:Quarl/unwatch.js. — Quarl ( talk) 2006-01-10 08:29 Z
Hi. You wrote "If another admin agrees". Do you imply with this that admin votes count more than non-admin votes on this matter? -- Adrian Buehlmann 23:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Hello; I am very interested in your unverified.js script but when I install it at User:Admrboltz/monobook.js/unverified.js I cant get it to work. I would like it to actualy add {{no source|month={{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}|day={{CURRENTDAY}}|year={{CURRENTYEAR}}} eventualy, but would be satisifed with it working in general :) Thanks -- Admrboltz ( T | C) 04:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Omegatron, I just noticed your monitoring of Wikipedia:Avoid using meta-templates; thanks for keeping that policy and its discussions sane. :) +sj + 04:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Omegatron,
please have a look at User:Cacycle/editor for my editor script that adds extended editing functions to the Wikipedia edit pages. Currently it works only for Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla, and Mozilla SeaMonkey browsers. Features include regular expression search and replace, server-independent Show preview and Show changes, one-click fixing of common mistakes, and undo/redo. Some fixing routines have been taken from your scripts.
Cacycle 12:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
The unit formatter, for instance, could be re-written in a much simpler way without the regular expressions. Just an array of valid prefixes and an array of valid unit symbols (with correct capitalization) and then the script would find anywhere the two were together and fix the capitalization and spacing (and maybe use a
, but I'm hesitant to start filling up articles with those).
// changes 10^3 to 103
// change x^3 to x3
even if it gives a better output as long as we don't have a markup for it. It is simply too confusing in the source text.
Cacycle
22:22, 26 January 2006 (UTC)addOnloadHook(myFunction);
instead of main.onload... I think it's better at not conflicting with pre-existing functions? —
Omegatron
14:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)Ahh I didnt realise that everyone could set his own thumbnail size. Thanks. So everyone may see the page differently and its not worth lining up pictures to look right on my monitor? ( because other monitors are different) Am I correct?-- Light current 15:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice!-- Light current 19:29, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Why are you removing spaces from after headers and list markup? This makes the wikitext harder to read and can break formatting of definition lists, etc. — Omegatron 20:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Definition lists require the spaces to be parsed correctly:
Likewise with bulleted text with an asterisk:
and so on:
It's hard to think of things that would conflict, but there are a few. The spaced format is guaranteed to always work.
Also, you'll notice that if you press the + button on a talk page to create a new section, (or use the §ion=new function in the URL), the Mediawiki software generates headings with the following spacing:
== Heading 1 == Text 1 == Heading 2 == Text 2
I think it's logical and more readable to leave these spaces in the markup where possible. I've been converting articles to this format with a javascript function, so if you're doing the opposite, we either need to both stop what we're doing, or agree on a format that is best. — Omegatron 01:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you in edit summary said that there is a new speaker icon, but the template renders like this: Renata 06:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
. Is this what you intended?If you think that this page should start by referring to itself as a guideline, then why do you object to categorizing this as a guideline? The terms policy and guideline are special terms on wikipedia, as you apparently appreciate. Personally, I think this should be a guideline, along the lines of {{ style-guideline}} perhaps. I agree with everyone who thinks it should not be a policy, but believe there is merit to not using meta templates if there is an easier way to code something, without loosing functionality. I also think that it should only be labled according to consensus, and that there is much disagreement on what that page should end up being at this time. What I really disagree with is a page contradicting itself, thus my attempt to categorize this based on it's text. I don't think it's worth getting in to an edit war with you about though. What do you think? xaosflux Talk/ CVU 23:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
See User talk:Quarl — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-04 05:11 Z
Re this edit - can you also take a look at them multi-listen template and do the same there? (See the medie section at Beethoven for an example) Raul654 20:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the Klunky Schematic Editor! It is just what I have been looking for for a long while! But could you please add symbols for light bulb (a circle with an "X" filling it), or, if it already exists, tell me what symbol to use for it (– I am used to the circle with the "X")? -- Erkekjetter 01:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-07 19:33 Z
To avoid flip-flopping between 'degree Fahrenheit' and 'Fahrenheit' or 'degree Celsius' and 'Celsius', I propose that we have a discussion on which we want. I see you have contributed on units of measurement, please express your opinion at Talk:Units of measurement. Thanks. bobblewik 22:09, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to thank you personally for putting the sinewave A440 on the page. As a musician stuck without a tuner in a bind, Wikipedia was my first stop. I thought, "I bet somebody's got a tone up at A440," and I was in luck. That fit my needs perfectly. Infinity Squared 01:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
You just added an unnecessary span
to
Template:SI prefixes with reference to a bug in the Wikimedia software. This is definitely a thing that should be corrected in the software, not in articles (or templates for that matter). I will not revert it for now, but I request that you do so whereever you made such a change—when the bug is corrected at last. —Preceding
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contribs)
It is my understanding that the inclusion of a template on a page puts a tiny extra bit of strain on the Wikipedia servers (see WP:SUBST#Reasons to substitute) - generally not much to complain of, but this particular template is used on over 6,000 pages, so that load seems unnecessary. BD2412 T 13:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I've put it up for discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29#Userboxes_Subst - I wanted to try and get a census before I did anything with respect to them. Tawker 04:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I substed all isntances of your old template signature. I also unprotected it since it's no longer being transcluded (if you want it deleted, drop me a note at my talk) -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 05:55, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Since you have taken an interest in links. Please be kind enough to vote for my new bot application to reduce overlinking of dates where they are not part of date preferences. bobblewik 20:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Edit summary usage for Omegatron: 76% for major edits and 84% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits in the article namespace.
And don't rely too much on the AWB framework to do the edit summary work for you; it does poor job at edit summaries except for trivial edits.
Also, the AWB framework is a stupid bot, just like me, it can't say why a two-legged human made a change. So, more effort in putting edit summaries, and more meaningful edit summaries, please. Mathbot 03:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
No worries, I check the bots talk too (its one of my homepages) - its just the userpage gives a fancy little new messages box :) Thanks for the heads up though! -- Tawker 07:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It's that guy you are.
— User:Adrian/zap2.js 08:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I was under the impression that templated were to be 'subst'ed wherever possible, and had noticed this being done to many pages on my watchlist with justifications in terms of server load. I was doing it more as a test for WP:AWB while trying to do something useful. I apologise if this was innapropriate, or incorrect; I was not trying to antagonise. |→ Spaully° τ 00:00, 1 March 2006
Then I learned something today- Thanks-
( Opes 05:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC))
Hey ive been renaming some pages in a wikibook to match the new naming convention, i was wondering if there was anyway to see all the pages in the module? Is this something only administrators can do? Is there a better way to clear all the orphaned redirects than proding them? Can I ask an admin to speedy them? Discordance 13:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. Discordance 22:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Spam - You might want to comment on this: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Clerks/Administration. — Locke Cole • t • c 03:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Reply is indented...
Thank you for reverting vandalism on Electric current and Bandwidth. I'm glad someone's finally gotten around to an automated method of dealing with simple, obvious vandalism. Some suggestions:
1. Err on the side of caution. It's much better to miss some vandalism than revert good edits.
2. Don't mark reversions as minor if you're not watching them
3. Change the edit summary to something like "Suspected vandalism automatically reverted", so people realize at a glance that no human is observing the revert. As you can see on this talk page, some people don't even realize it's a bot after coming here.
4. It would be really nice if the edit summaries were specific. Instead of a generic message, use
That would reduce the number of bot edits that people have to check up on
5. Could it add {it {test}} templates to the user talks of people who vandalize? Is it worth it?
Reverting "X is gay" and "can I really edit this?" wastes way too much of our valuable time, even with vandal fighting software and the rollback tool. Thanks for saving us all some work, so we can focus on writing an encyclopedia.
(Not enough praise on this page.) :-) — Omegatron 16:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Again, thanks for the praise. We'll see what we an do to improve the bot :) -- Tawker 19:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to address your suggestions.
Thank you for your positive comments. Any other suggestions, please let us know. :) joshbuddy talk 22:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
On another note, we finished the autowarn v1.0, its still a generic message but it goes on every page new or not -- Tawker 10:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
The auto warn feature is now implemented and it seems to be working ok. It is a generic warning but its better than no warning. -- Tawker 18:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
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Saw this on my watchlist, can not make head or tail of it :)
00:38:33 MediaWiki talk:Tagline (diff; hist) . . Omegatron (Talk) (→=Comment= - «" =Comment= " → "=Comment="»)
→ Aza Toth 00:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Omegatron, thanks for answering my question about javascript at the Village Pump -- and even taking the time to look at my monobook.js page! I really appreciate it!
Herostratus
13:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Are you using something to automatically create edit summaries? A summary like this one might be somewhat worse than nothing at all, which, of course, is bad. It's just a bunch of gobbledygook which doesn't summarize the —I looked at the edit, and I still can't tell how that edit summary relates to it. If enough people enter edit summaries like this, it will take me all day just to get through my watchlist. Please, just harness the awesome power of writing. — Michael Z. 2006-03-02 05:58 Z
Are you using something to automatically create edit summaries?
I didn't see any indication of a previous discussion, but given there were about 20 articles, it would have been hard to find it had there been one. It was in a bit of a mess, with some articles linking to "binary", but with the majority simply having one paragraph and then referring to byte or bit. The real problem was that now and again people were adding info which was relevant to all of them, so it badly needed to be centralised, especially given that the total amount of information was just right for the size of one article. megawatt and gigawatt link to watt, so this appears to be the standard method. -- Rebroad 15:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
You should STOP REVERTING MY CHANGES TO Megabyte. Look, the fact is that MB is VERY widely used to mean 1,048,576 bytes. Therefore, saying that it doesn't mean that is tilting at windmills. FACT: Operating systems allocate and report disk and files sizes in binary units, and present them using abbreviations (e.g GB, MB, KB). FACT: that's where most people most often see the abbreviation MB. Sheesh. Rational, popular use trumps standards body declarations. This was all clear in the article. I shouldn't have to drive the point home here. Elvey 17:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Your addition to RISUG is just speculation as it's currently written. Can you provide a reference of someone who says that? — Omegatron 00:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi - great work you've been doing on Red rain in Kerala! Once the results of Wainwright's testing are known and we know whether the alien theory was just a curiousity or really true, I think this article has great potential for featured status. Just a quibble though - you say that 'exogenesis' is the correct term for 'panspermia', but I think you're wrong there. The word exogenesis does not appear in the astronomical literature at all - panspermia is the only term in common usage for the phenomenon in question. If you don't object strongly, I'd like to change 'exogenesis' back to 'panspermia'. Worldtraveller 11:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Certainly dertainly I am happy with the UTF-8 creaminess. Up until now I have concentrated on getting the content nice. I suppose just entering the HTML entity, then doing "preview" and then pasting from the representation ought to do it nicely. Duckbill 21:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Continuing the discussion from the Village Pump Proposals page: Is there any way to find out who developed the LaTeX rendering engine, so we can figure out why they had LaTeX code rendered as HTML in a different font than the rest of Wikipedia? Maybe then we can work something out. -- mets501 01:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Math it rendered as either HTML (CSS class "texhtml"), or PNG (CSS class "tex"). The rules controlling their display are:
img.tex {
vertical-align: middle;
} span.texhtml {
font-family: serif;
}
I didn't write that CSS, but serif is probably more like the font used to typeset math in paper math books, and someone thought it would look ugly to use sans serif for it or something like that.
From his response I think it would be fine to change it to render in sans-serif. -- Mets501 talk 02:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Ugh, would you care to handle this? Talk:MB/s I just am not up to it at the moment. Cburnett 00:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 10:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks on your advise on commons:User_talk:Renata3/samples. I modified the template but I almost missed your comment because I don't check commons pages that often. Cheers, Renata 20:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello Omegatron,
I have added a new article Wilson current source. Please proof-read it. Thanks!! Rohitbd 10:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I do not know if you noticed it, but there is another proposal about date links. This time it is not about me getting a bot flag, it is about making it very clear that the Manual of style permits removal of unnecessary links. You may wish to see the proposal at: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#linking_of_dates and vote whichever way you think is best. Thanks. bobblewik 15:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I really like the floating quickbar idea, but I am running into a problem on my browser (Firefox 1.5.0.1). When implemented, the "my talk/my preferences"/etc. bar seems to be shoved all the way over to the left, under the icon. I'm not sure why this is happening. Any thoughts? — Chowbok 02:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thanks mate! Dmharvey 01:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I read
your suggestion on
meta and I agree whole-heartedly in principle.
In fact, if you look further up the page, you will see that your idea is almost the same as
mine
.
I think we need to band together to bribe
Ævar with huge amounts of chocolate or something to implement these suggestions ASAP.
HTH HAND —
Phil |
Talk
12:04, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
There's a vote at Talk:Ohm (unit) to reinstate as the primary topic after a move from Ohm. Have an opinion to share? Femto 16:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
It's waiting for you to fill it in. (or someone who has access or time to do so) njh 22:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
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Thank you for supporting/opposing/commenting on my request of adminship, sadly the result was 54/20/7 an thus only 73% support votes, resulting in that the nomination failed. As many of you commenting that I have to few main-space edits, I'll try to better my self on that part. If you have any ideas on what kind of articles I could edit, pleas send me a line. :) | →
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Sorry... could... not... resist... (73% isn't bad. Don't see it as failed, see it as not quite succeeded yet. Like, some say the bucket is half-full, and some say it's half-empty.) :-P Femto 12:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Moved to Talk:Audio system measurements
Dear 'O'. I see you have deleted all the branchlists from the noise series. Could you say why? Also someone has nominated the branchlist template for deletion (rather hastily I might add). Can you shed any light?-- Light current 14:51, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
OK Im going to leave this for Lindosland to make his mind up and then tell us what his plans are.-- Light current 15:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Dear 'O', I notice you have been removing branchlist templates from the electroics articles. Could we have a discussion about how to implement and test Lindoslands ideas before getting into an edit war? -- Light current 16:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
i'm the class e/f guy. i'm not interested in opening an account. my ip changed because i'm using a different computer. i'm ready to chat about class e/f topic or other RF topics. i hope my changes will remain as i have worked on them some time... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.154.198.135 ( talk • contribs)
well then leave a way to chat with you...
concerning changes, I've done my part and recommended to delete most of the rest. feel free to do this. this article still needs alot of work on other areas, but i hope other ppl can do this. class e/f is understood by very few ppl so took the pain to fix it myself
Hi! I've been having some problems with the linkify plugin for Gaim found at Wikipedia:IRC_channel_scripts#Gaim, and was hoping you might be able to help me out. I'm not sure what kind of information you would need to help me troubleshoot this, so I'll try to give you a brief history of what I've tried. I'm using Windows XP Professional. I originally downloaded Gaim 1.5, then tried to implement the linkify plugin. I realized that I did not have activeperl 5.8, so I downloaded that, then reinstalled Gaim. That didn't work, so I completely uninstalled Gaim and reinstalled. When that didn't work, I figured maybe it was an older version issue, so I uninstalled 1.5 and downloaded Gaim 2.0 beta 3. Unfortunately that didn't work either. I have linkify.pl in C:\Program Files\Gaim\plugins and that file was changed so that my $CfgFile points to C:\Documents and Settings\Eric\Application Data\.gaim, which is where linkify.cfg is (I haven't changed linkify.cfg since I downloaded it, since it now contains Wikipedia links by default). Are there any known problems/solutions I should try in order to fix this? Thanks in advance for all your time. E WS23 | (Leave me a message!) 22:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering if anything else happened with Changing next/previous to earlier/later? if not, aybe we should add a copy of the proposal to the wikiproject-usability archive? thanks. 8) - Quiddity 07:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I was kind of surprised that Transient response and Steady-state response didn't exist until about a half-hour ago when I created them. They could definitely use some work and I'd keep chugging away at them but it's time for bed. FYI. Cburnett 05:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't know enough about the subject to know whether the Wikipedia content that Peter is adding is elevating his methods above others or not. If you are right then it probably is a good idea to start trying to either delete that material or edit it out. AlistairMcMillan 22:01, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
What is so obvious here? The 'modern solution' was incorporated into an International (IEC)Standard. If you think there's wrong tone, or POV, just fix it. I don't always manage to take out the tone when I convert Lindos articles for Wikipedia, and assume that others will fix this if I don't go far enough. I have gone back and done this myself on some articles as you know. But when it comes to merging or deleting, then please read the following, as I really think you are missing something here Omegatron. I've worked on AES and other standards, and played a major part in audio measurement for 30yrs. What might once have been called 'my methods' are now respected and in used worldwide. It's the Audiophiles who think they know better who give the industry a bad name and promote ideas that are without proper foundations.
Moved to Talk:Audio system measurements
hello. i see you are altering a couple of articles where there is an alternate form of citation of "main article"...i assume you are asserting a wikipedia standard. in any event i would like to make a case for this alternate form to serve the following functions:
a {font-weight: bold;}
a.new {font-weight:bold;}
a.new {text-decoration:none; border-bottom:1px dashed;}
And by floating, I mean the sidebar doesn't move when you scroll the rest of the page.
Saw you looked for it once- did you find it?
Thomasvoghera AT gmail (sorry new user- don't know this yet, please send mail to notify me onanswer here)
The guidelines given for the National Standards clearly excludes the use of "dB SPL".
ASACOS Rules for Preparation of American National Standards in ACOUSTICS, MECHANICAL VIBRATION AND SHOCK, BIOACOUSTICS, and NOISE, which states:
3.16 Unit symbols
3.16.1 When to use unit symbols
In the text of the standard, the unit symbol for a quantity shall be used only when the unit is preceded by a numeral. When the unit is not preceded by a numeral, spell out the name of the unit. In text, even when a numerical value is given, it is desirable to spell out the name of the unit. Moreover, the name shall be spelled out when it first appears in the text, and more often if the text is lengthy.
Thus, in text write "...a sound pressure level of 73 dB; or "...a sound pressure level of 73 decibels." Do not write "sound pressure level in dB"; the correct form is "sound pressure level in decibels." Do not write "dB levels", "dB readings", or "dB SPL."
Levels or readings are not of decibels; they are of sound pressure levels or some other acoustical quantity. Write out the word "decibel" for such applications, and be sure that the word 'decibel' follows, not precedes the description of the relevant acoustical quantity.
The use of "dB SPL", as shown above by an authoritative source, is wrong. The incorrect use is common in Wikipedia articles, it is a problem. I've been leaving a message in the talk sections of various articles that need to have this fixed. It does not help to have my corrections of a real error reverted to the incorrect state. The articles that need correction include decibel, sound pressure, sound pressure level, and audiogram, but these are just a few of many that include the incorrect usage.
The treatment of sound pressure level is inconsistent with standard reference works across Wikipedia. Both Kinsler and Frey's "Fundamentals of Acoustics" (2nd edition) and Robert Urick's "Principles of Underwater Sound" (3rd edition) indicate that a measured intensity is a level (Urick p.15) or sound pressure level (K&F) relative to a reference effective pressure (K&F pp.125-126). Both of these sources recommend reporting decibels with an explicit listing of the reference effective pressure, like so: "74 dB re 20 micropascals", where the number and units following re is the reference effective pressure. Level or sound pressure level in both these standard texts simply refer to a measurement in the sound field and are not indications of a specific reference pressure upon which the decibel is based. In other words, "dBSPL" is an incorrect means of attempting to refer to the in-air reference effective pressure. In no article thus far have I seen the "dBSPL" usage tied to an authoritative source. By contrast, the "dB re" formalism is common to both standard reference works that I have cited, and is explicitly excluded in the work laying out the format for the national standards.
Other sites using the "dB re" formalism: Oceans of Noise (explicit in defining SPL and SIL in terms of "dB re"), SURTASS LFA, NIST listing SPL in terms of "dB re", and Acoustic Impacts on Marine Mammals. Wesley R. Elsberry 14:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
The supposed "better reference" for use of "dB SPL" added to the decibel article ends up being a document that merely includes "dB SPL" in a list of terms. The glossary within the same document does not even list this supposed term, even though weighted decibel terms are defined. The glossary in the file does have an entry for "sound pressure level", which is
Sound pressure level: (1) Ten times the logarithm to the base ten of the ratio of the time-mean-square pressure of a sound, in a stated frequency band, to the square of the reference sound pressure in gases of 20 micropascals (µPa). Unit, dB; symbol, Lp. (2) For sound in media other than gases, unless otherwise specified, reference sound pressure in 1 µPa (ANSI S1.1-1994: sound pressure level).
Notice that the unit is "dB", NOT "dB SPL". The inclusion of "dB SPL" in their list of terms does NOT establish that their usage is correct, and even their own reference of the ANSI standard indicates that their usage is incorrect. SPL refers to a measurement, and is NOT an indication of the reference effective pressure. The ANSI standard referenced makes this clear, as SPL is defined as being used for other reference effective pressures, too. Wesley R. Elsberry 16:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Omegatron - I have a favor to ask of you. Can you work with me to update {{ Infobox Aircraft}}? The template is way to generic and is not being used by any articles. I think this is a prime candidate for creating a detailed infobox. Ideally it would be flexible for both civilian and military aircraft - see ( Boeing 737, Pipers, F-15, [C-130 Hercules]] B-2 Spirit. I have left a message about my suggestion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft. Thanks! -- Reflex Reaction ( talk)• 14:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for busy watching and reverting. It's one of those spots in Wikipedia... -- Pjacobi 17:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
You say you've started blocking, therefore I'm assuming you're an admin. This looks like a case for semi-protection, which you'll be able to apply. Petros471 17:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi! Could you take a look (and possibly write your opinion) at [8] and as an example at [9]? Thanks! -- Ligulem 08:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Possible to change the current icon with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tango-video-x-generic.png which I just uploaded?
Spiff 18:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. That's clearly better. :-) — Omegatron 05:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, you're the only person i know that i know is an admin, so I was wondering if you could help me with a situation I have with User:JzG. He put up the page Personal_rapid_transit/UniModal for deletion, and there was some small discussion involving him, me, and a known vandal and PRT opponent Ken Avidor. I called for a vote, and it was unaniomous 9 votes that voted down the deletion.
After that, JzG cited that "AfD is not a vote", and "merged" the page with PRT. Really he merged one sentence out of the fairly large article SkyTran (links to old article) - and then deleted the rest, instead redirecting that page to Personal rapid transit.
It is my opinion that even a merge needs another proposal and another vote. But JzG doesn't think so, and basically went through with deleting the page. I consider his acts knowing vandalism - but I don't know how to deal with an uncooperative admin.
I was wondering if you could:
Here are links to places where this has been discussed:
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Vandalism_and_uncooperation_of_an_admin
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Personal_rapid_transit/UniModal
Talk:Personal_rapid_transit/UniModal
Hi! Thanks for reverting some of my contribution to damping factor. I was surprised to find what I thought was gross misinformation on this page, and I attempted to shed some light on the subject, deleting what I believed to be bad information.
I'm an electrical engineer with 20 years of experience in the CD and DVD business, and I know enough about audio to be dangerous. In my experience, you can easily hear the difference between a high quality amplifier with a high damping factor, and a cheap amplifier with a low damping factor. A high damping factor translates to "tight bass". It is easy to describe from a scientific perspective also (objects in motion, such as the cone of a bass driver, tend to stay in motion, or resonate, generating unwanted sound, unless the amplifier forces the voltage to the desired level, and the electromagnetic voice coil resists this unwanted motion).
I'd be interested in your thoughts, as you have obviously contributed a great deal to this page, and you are also an engineer and an audio pro. Tvaughan1 22:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I am writing you because I note in the History for cite/cite.php that you have been active recently in developing that article and I am hoping that either you can answer my question or you know someone who can.
I am a Wikipedian who has written quite a number of chemical engineering articles. I have been using <ref name=whatever>some reference</ref> to define my references and then <references/> to get them displayed in the References section.
I notice that when I use a reference only one time, the vertical arrow in the Reference section listing is very thin and spindly and hard-to-see. But when I use a reference multiple times, the vertical arrow and the accompanying superscripts (a b c ..) are quite bold and really stand out well. My question is why can't the arrow for a single-use reference look just as bold and well-defined as the arrow for a multiple-use reference?
As an aside, I must say that Cite/cite.php at [10] needs to be completely re-written by a non-computer guru so that we ordinary mortals can understand it. It is virtually incomprehensible at the moment. - mbeychok 17:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
If we look at the cite.php references in Tourette syndrome, they render as daggers and straight vertical lines, and they are all bold and well defined ... but they are at 80% font size. I changed them to 100% font size and then they looked exactly like the poorly defined vertical arrows I've been seeing on my IE browser. Look at these two screen shots of the Tourette references, one is using regular 100% font size and one is using 80% font size ==> image:Tourette references 100%.jpg and ==> image:Tourette references 80%.jpg
There is no question but that the font size changes the appearance entirely! Cite.php should abandon the arrows and go back to using the caret. - mbeychok 17:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Omegatron, I noticed you reverted my change to the word "exaggerated" for the PRT skeptic image on the PRT page. How else are we to accurately describe this image, which is an intentionally misleading representation of PRT used in a political campaign? Avidor himself (the creator of the image) admitted he used a guideway from a different PRT system (Raytheon) than was under consideration for Minnesota. And Raytheon's system was MUCH more visually imposing than Taxi2000, the proposed system for Minnesota, so there's no question this is a misrepresentation. I also object to the inclusion of a reference to the "Cyberspace Dream" article, which is basically a light rail advocacy brochure that has been rebutted point-by-point by PRT proponents. JzG has insisted we cannot list individual rebuttals to the Cyberspace Dream article, so doesn't the inclusion of this contentious article without its rebuttals give it undue weight? A Transportation Enthusiast 18:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Bizarre, huh? One cannot help suspecting that User:Starski, anon 70.71.3.193, and John Hutchison are one and the same. I'm not sure I've ever seen an anon register and then threaten to come back and robovandalize the WP! If I read that right, he also claim to have your IP and he seems to threaten you with some kind of personalized retaliation! ARIN gives legal email for Shaw Cablesystems G.P. (shawcable.net) in case that proves handy. --- CH 06:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually, while User:Starski and anon 70.71.3.193 seem to be the same, it seems that a Hutchison supporter called Mel Winfield also lives in Vancouver, and someone linked from this article (and/or Hutchison effect to his [www.spacetelescopes.com/gravitation.html website]. Go figure, I guess--- CH 09:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
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As I understand it they are talking about different applications of the same thing. I had this confirmed by Dr. C.A.S.Hall, an expert in systems ecology, however I have had trouble talking about "electronic applications of ecology" because that area does not exist and many believe it OR so it is blocked. I've removed the merge proposal. It looks like we will have to wait for some time to clarify this matter up...which may be beneficial. Regards Sholto Maud 04:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
Hi, happy new year. I think as you are from the electronics world that you might be able to help out on sometime which I started today. At the electrical substation page I have started a subsection on protection systems and design.
I am looking for details of an event which occured many years ago, it is known to some as the luton flashover. A serious flashover occured at a major substation in Luton (england) and this caused a nation wide outage. Do you know anything about this event ? Cadmium 16:15, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Omegatron, I liked your unwatch script that adds "un" links on the watchlist. I modified yours to use AJAX, i.e. asynchronously unwatch the page without opening a new window, and cross out the entry from the watchlist. See User:Quarl/unwatch.js. — Quarl ( talk) 2006-01-10 08:29 Z
Hi. You wrote "If another admin agrees". Do you imply with this that admin votes count more than non-admin votes on this matter? -- Adrian Buehlmann 23:01, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Hello; I am very interested in your unverified.js script but when I install it at User:Admrboltz/monobook.js/unverified.js I cant get it to work. I would like it to actualy add {{no source|month={{CURRENTMONTHNAME}}|day={{CURRENTDAY}}|year={{CURRENTYEAR}}} eventualy, but would be satisifed with it working in general :) Thanks -- Admrboltz ( T | C) 04:31, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Omegatron, I just noticed your monitoring of Wikipedia:Avoid using meta-templates; thanks for keeping that policy and its discussions sane. :) +sj + 04:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi Omegatron,
please have a look at User:Cacycle/editor for my editor script that adds extended editing functions to the Wikipedia edit pages. Currently it works only for Mozilla Firefox, Mozilla, and Mozilla SeaMonkey browsers. Features include regular expression search and replace, server-independent Show preview and Show changes, one-click fixing of common mistakes, and undo/redo. Some fixing routines have been taken from your scripts.
Cacycle 12:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
The unit formatter, for instance, could be re-written in a much simpler way without the regular expressions. Just an array of valid prefixes and an array of valid unit symbols (with correct capitalization) and then the script would find anywhere the two were together and fix the capitalization and spacing (and maybe use a
, but I'm hesitant to start filling up articles with those).
// changes 10^3 to 103
// change x^3 to x3
even if it gives a better output as long as we don't have a markup for it. It is simply too confusing in the source text.
Cacycle
22:22, 26 January 2006 (UTC)addOnloadHook(myFunction);
instead of main.onload... I think it's better at not conflicting with pre-existing functions? —
Omegatron
14:56, 26 January 2006 (UTC)Ahh I didnt realise that everyone could set his own thumbnail size. Thanks. So everyone may see the page differently and its not worth lining up pictures to look right on my monitor? ( because other monitors are different) Am I correct?-- Light current 15:14, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice!-- Light current 19:29, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Why are you removing spaces from after headers and list markup? This makes the wikitext harder to read and can break formatting of definition lists, etc. — Omegatron 20:54, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Definition lists require the spaces to be parsed correctly:
Likewise with bulleted text with an asterisk:
and so on:
It's hard to think of things that would conflict, but there are a few. The spaced format is guaranteed to always work.
Also, you'll notice that if you press the + button on a talk page to create a new section, (or use the §ion=new function in the URL), the Mediawiki software generates headings with the following spacing:
== Heading 1 == Text 1 == Heading 2 == Text 2
I think it's logical and more readable to leave these spaces in the markup where possible. I've been converting articles to this format with a javascript function, so if you're doing the opposite, we either need to both stop what we're doing, or agree on a format that is best. — Omegatron 01:31, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Hi, you in edit summary said that there is a new speaker icon, but the template renders like this: Renata 06:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
. Is this what you intended?If you think that this page should start by referring to itself as a guideline, then why do you object to categorizing this as a guideline? The terms policy and guideline are special terms on wikipedia, as you apparently appreciate. Personally, I think this should be a guideline, along the lines of {{ style-guideline}} perhaps. I agree with everyone who thinks it should not be a policy, but believe there is merit to not using meta templates if there is an easier way to code something, without loosing functionality. I also think that it should only be labled according to consensus, and that there is much disagreement on what that page should end up being at this time. What I really disagree with is a page contradicting itself, thus my attempt to categorize this based on it's text. I don't think it's worth getting in to an edit war with you about though. What do you think? xaosflux Talk/ CVU 23:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
See User talk:Quarl — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-04 05:11 Z
Re this edit - can you also take a look at them multi-listen template and do the same there? (See the medie section at Beethoven for an example) Raul654 20:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Thank you very much for the Klunky Schematic Editor! It is just what I have been looking for for a long while! But could you please add symbols for light bulb (a circle with an "X" filling it), or, if it already exists, tell me what symbol to use for it (– I am used to the circle with the "X")? -- Erkekjetter 01:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! — Quarl ( talk) 2006-02-07 19:33 Z
To avoid flip-flopping between 'degree Fahrenheit' and 'Fahrenheit' or 'degree Celsius' and 'Celsius', I propose that we have a discussion on which we want. I see you have contributed on units of measurement, please express your opinion at Talk:Units of measurement. Thanks. bobblewik 22:09, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
I just wanted to thank you personally for putting the sinewave A440 on the page. As a musician stuck without a tuner in a bind, Wikipedia was my first stop. I thought, "I bet somebody's got a tone up at A440," and I was in luck. That fit my needs perfectly. Infinity Squared 01:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
You just added an unnecessary span
to
Template:SI prefixes with reference to a bug in the Wikimedia software. This is definitely a thing that should be corrected in the software, not in articles (or templates for that matter). I will not revert it for now, but I request that you do so whereever you made such a change—when the bug is corrected at last. —Preceding
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It is my understanding that the inclusion of a template on a page puts a tiny extra bit of strain on the Wikipedia servers (see WP:SUBST#Reasons to substitute) - generally not much to complain of, but this particular template is used on over 6,000 pages, so that load seems unnecessary. BD2412 T 13:42, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I've put it up for discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28policy%29#Userboxes_Subst - I wanted to try and get a census before I did anything with respect to them. Tawker 04:19, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I substed all isntances of your old template signature. I also unprotected it since it's no longer being transcluded (if you want it deleted, drop me a note at my talk) -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 05:55, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Since you have taken an interest in links. Please be kind enough to vote for my new bot application to reduce overlinking of dates where they are not part of date preferences. bobblewik 20:44, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Edit summary usage for Omegatron: 76% for major edits and 84% for minor edits. Based on the last 150 major and 150 minor edits in the article namespace.
And don't rely too much on the AWB framework to do the edit summary work for you; it does poor job at edit summaries except for trivial edits.
Also, the AWB framework is a stupid bot, just like me, it can't say why a two-legged human made a change. So, more effort in putting edit summaries, and more meaningful edit summaries, please. Mathbot 03:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
No worries, I check the bots talk too (its one of my homepages) - its just the userpage gives a fancy little new messages box :) Thanks for the heads up though! -- Tawker 07:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
It's that guy you are.
— User:Adrian/zap2.js 08:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
I was under the impression that templated were to be 'subst'ed wherever possible, and had noticed this being done to many pages on my watchlist with justifications in terms of server load. I was doing it more as a test for WP:AWB while trying to do something useful. I apologise if this was innapropriate, or incorrect; I was not trying to antagonise. |→ Spaully° τ 00:00, 1 March 2006
Then I learned something today- Thanks-
( Opes 05:59, 4 March 2006 (UTC))
Hey ive been renaming some pages in a wikibook to match the new naming convention, i was wondering if there was anyway to see all the pages in the module? Is this something only administrators can do? Is there a better way to clear all the orphaned redirects than proding them? Can I ask an admin to speedy them? Discordance 13:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the help. Discordance 22:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
Spam - You might want to comment on this: Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Clerks/Administration. — Locke Cole • t • c 03:04, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Reply is indented...
Thank you for reverting vandalism on Electric current and Bandwidth. I'm glad someone's finally gotten around to an automated method of dealing with simple, obvious vandalism. Some suggestions:
1. Err on the side of caution. It's much better to miss some vandalism than revert good edits.
2. Don't mark reversions as minor if you're not watching them
3. Change the edit summary to something like "Suspected vandalism automatically reverted", so people realize at a glance that no human is observing the revert. As you can see on this talk page, some people don't even realize it's a bot after coming here.
4. It would be really nice if the edit summaries were specific. Instead of a generic message, use
That would reduce the number of bot edits that people have to check up on
5. Could it add {it {test}} templates to the user talks of people who vandalize? Is it worth it?
Reverting "X is gay" and "can I really edit this?" wastes way too much of our valuable time, even with vandal fighting software and the rollback tool. Thanks for saving us all some work, so we can focus on writing an encyclopedia.
(Not enough praise on this page.) :-) — Omegatron 16:35, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
Again, thanks for the praise. We'll see what we an do to improve the bot :) -- Tawker 19:01, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
I wanted to address your suggestions.
Thank you for your positive comments. Any other suggestions, please let us know. :) joshbuddy talk 22:09, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
On another note, we finished the autowarn v1.0, its still a generic message but it goes on every page new or not -- Tawker 10:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
The auto warn feature is now implemented and it seems to be working ok. It is a generic warning but its better than no warning. -- Tawker 18:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
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Saw this on my watchlist, can not make head or tail of it :)
00:38:33 MediaWiki talk:Tagline (diff; hist) . . Omegatron (Talk) (→=Comment= - «" =Comment= " → "=Comment="»)
→ Aza Toth 00:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Omegatron, thanks for answering my question about javascript at the Village Pump -- and even taking the time to look at my monobook.js page! I really appreciate it!
Herostratus
13:46, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi. Are you using something to automatically create edit summaries? A summary like this one might be somewhat worse than nothing at all, which, of course, is bad. It's just a bunch of gobbledygook which doesn't summarize the —I looked at the edit, and I still can't tell how that edit summary relates to it. If enough people enter edit summaries like this, it will take me all day just to get through my watchlist. Please, just harness the awesome power of writing. — Michael Z. 2006-03-02 05:58 Z
Are you using something to automatically create edit summaries?
I didn't see any indication of a previous discussion, but given there were about 20 articles, it would have been hard to find it had there been one. It was in a bit of a mess, with some articles linking to "binary", but with the majority simply having one paragraph and then referring to byte or bit. The real problem was that now and again people were adding info which was relevant to all of them, so it badly needed to be centralised, especially given that the total amount of information was just right for the size of one article. megawatt and gigawatt link to watt, so this appears to be the standard method. -- Rebroad 15:31, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
You should STOP REVERTING MY CHANGES TO Megabyte. Look, the fact is that MB is VERY widely used to mean 1,048,576 bytes. Therefore, saying that it doesn't mean that is tilting at windmills. FACT: Operating systems allocate and report disk and files sizes in binary units, and present them using abbreviations (e.g GB, MB, KB). FACT: that's where most people most often see the abbreviation MB. Sheesh. Rational, popular use trumps standards body declarations. This was all clear in the article. I shouldn't have to drive the point home here. Elvey 17:26, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Your addition to RISUG is just speculation as it's currently written. Can you provide a reference of someone who says that? — Omegatron 00:35, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi - great work you've been doing on Red rain in Kerala! Once the results of Wainwright's testing are known and we know whether the alien theory was just a curiousity or really true, I think this article has great potential for featured status. Just a quibble though - you say that 'exogenesis' is the correct term for 'panspermia', but I think you're wrong there. The word exogenesis does not appear in the astronomical literature at all - panspermia is the only term in common usage for the phenomenon in question. If you don't object strongly, I'd like to change 'exogenesis' back to 'panspermia'. Worldtraveller 11:03, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
Certainly dertainly I am happy with the UTF-8 creaminess. Up until now I have concentrated on getting the content nice. I suppose just entering the HTML entity, then doing "preview" and then pasting from the representation ought to do it nicely. Duckbill 21:10, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Continuing the discussion from the Village Pump Proposals page: Is there any way to find out who developed the LaTeX rendering engine, so we can figure out why they had LaTeX code rendered as HTML in a different font than the rest of Wikipedia? Maybe then we can work something out. -- mets501 01:20, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Math it rendered as either HTML (CSS class "texhtml"), or PNG (CSS class "tex"). The rules controlling their display are:
img.tex {
vertical-align: middle;
} span.texhtml {
font-family: serif;
}
I didn't write that CSS, but serif is probably more like the font used to typeset math in paper math books, and someone thought it would look ugly to use sans serif for it or something like that.
From his response I think it would be fine to change it to render in sans-serif. -- Mets501 talk 02:57, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Ugh, would you care to handle this? Talk:MB/s I just am not up to it at the moment. Cburnett 00:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello,
An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole/Workshop.
On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, -- Tony Sidaway 10:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, thanks on your advise on commons:User_talk:Renata3/samples. I modified the template but I almost missed your comment because I don't check commons pages that often. Cheers, Renata 20:55, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello Omegatron,
I have added a new article Wilson current source. Please proof-read it. Thanks!! Rohitbd 10:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi, I do not know if you noticed it, but there is another proposal about date links. This time it is not about me getting a bot flag, it is about making it very clear that the Manual of style permits removal of unnecessary links. You may wish to see the proposal at: Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style_(dates_and_numbers)#linking_of_dates and vote whichever way you think is best. Thanks. bobblewik 15:50, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi,
I really like the floating quickbar idea, but I am running into a problem on my browser (Firefox 1.5.0.1). When implemented, the "my talk/my preferences"/etc. bar seems to be shoved all the way over to the left, under the icon. I'm not sure why this is happening. Any thoughts? — Chowbok 02:23, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thanks mate! Dmharvey 01:17, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I read
your suggestion on
meta and I agree whole-heartedly in principle.
In fact, if you look further up the page, you will see that your idea is almost the same as
mine
.
I think we need to band together to bribe
Ævar with huge amounts of chocolate or something to implement these suggestions ASAP.
HTH HAND —
Phil |
Talk
12:04, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
There's a vote at Talk:Ohm (unit) to reinstate as the primary topic after a move from Ohm. Have an opinion to share? Femto 16:56, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
It's waiting for you to fill it in. (or someone who has access or time to do so) njh 22:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
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My RfA | |
Thank you for supporting/opposing/commenting on my request of adminship, sadly the result was 54/20/7 an thus only 73% support votes, resulting in that the nomination failed. As many of you commenting that I have to few main-space edits, I'll try to better my self on that part. If you have any ideas on what kind of articles I could edit, pleas send me a line. :) | →
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Sorry... could... not... resist... (73% isn't bad. Don't see it as failed, see it as not quite succeeded yet. Like, some say the bucket is half-full, and some say it's half-empty.) :-P Femto 12:17, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Moved to Talk:Audio system measurements
Dear 'O'. I see you have deleted all the branchlists from the noise series. Could you say why? Also someone has nominated the branchlist template for deletion (rather hastily I might add). Can you shed any light?-- Light current 14:51, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
OK Im going to leave this for Lindosland to make his mind up and then tell us what his plans are.-- Light current 15:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
Dear 'O', I notice you have been removing branchlist templates from the electroics articles. Could we have a discussion about how to implement and test Lindoslands ideas before getting into an edit war? -- Light current 16:32, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
i'm the class e/f guy. i'm not interested in opening an account. my ip changed because i'm using a different computer. i'm ready to chat about class e/f topic or other RF topics. i hope my changes will remain as i have worked on them some time... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.154.198.135 ( talk • contribs)
well then leave a way to chat with you...
concerning changes, I've done my part and recommended to delete most of the rest. feel free to do this. this article still needs alot of work on other areas, but i hope other ppl can do this. class e/f is understood by very few ppl so took the pain to fix it myself
Hi! I've been having some problems with the linkify plugin for Gaim found at Wikipedia:IRC_channel_scripts#Gaim, and was hoping you might be able to help me out. I'm not sure what kind of information you would need to help me troubleshoot this, so I'll try to give you a brief history of what I've tried. I'm using Windows XP Professional. I originally downloaded Gaim 1.5, then tried to implement the linkify plugin. I realized that I did not have activeperl 5.8, so I downloaded that, then reinstalled Gaim. That didn't work, so I completely uninstalled Gaim and reinstalled. When that didn't work, I figured maybe it was an older version issue, so I uninstalled 1.5 and downloaded Gaim 2.0 beta 3. Unfortunately that didn't work either. I have linkify.pl in C:\Program Files\Gaim\plugins and that file was changed so that my $CfgFile points to C:\Documents and Settings\Eric\Application Data\.gaim, which is where linkify.cfg is (I haven't changed linkify.cfg since I downloaded it, since it now contains Wikipedia links by default). Are there any known problems/solutions I should try in order to fix this? Thanks in advance for all your time. E WS23 | (Leave me a message!) 22:00, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
Just wondering if anything else happened with Changing next/previous to earlier/later? if not, aybe we should add a copy of the proposal to the wikiproject-usability archive? thanks. 8) - Quiddity 07:55, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I was kind of surprised that Transient response and Steady-state response didn't exist until about a half-hour ago when I created them. They could definitely use some work and I'd keep chugging away at them but it's time for bed. FYI. Cburnett 05:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't know enough about the subject to know whether the Wikipedia content that Peter is adding is elevating his methods above others or not. If you are right then it probably is a good idea to start trying to either delete that material or edit it out. AlistairMcMillan 22:01, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
What is so obvious here? The 'modern solution' was incorporated into an International (IEC)Standard. If you think there's wrong tone, or POV, just fix it. I don't always manage to take out the tone when I convert Lindos articles for Wikipedia, and assume that others will fix this if I don't go far enough. I have gone back and done this myself on some articles as you know. But when it comes to merging or deleting, then please read the following, as I really think you are missing something here Omegatron. I've worked on AES and other standards, and played a major part in audio measurement for 30yrs. What might once have been called 'my methods' are now respected and in used worldwide. It's the Audiophiles who think they know better who give the industry a bad name and promote ideas that are without proper foundations.
Moved to Talk:Audio system measurements
hello. i see you are altering a couple of articles where there is an alternate form of citation of "main article"...i assume you are asserting a wikipedia standard. in any event i would like to make a case for this alternate form to serve the following functions:
a {font-weight: bold;}
a.new {font-weight:bold;}
a.new {text-decoration:none; border-bottom:1px dashed;}
And by floating, I mean the sidebar doesn't move when you scroll the rest of the page.
Saw you looked for it once- did you find it?
Thomasvoghera AT gmail (sorry new user- don't know this yet, please send mail to notify me onanswer here)
The guidelines given for the National Standards clearly excludes the use of "dB SPL".
ASACOS Rules for Preparation of American National Standards in ACOUSTICS, MECHANICAL VIBRATION AND SHOCK, BIOACOUSTICS, and NOISE, which states:
3.16 Unit symbols
3.16.1 When to use unit symbols
In the text of the standard, the unit symbol for a quantity shall be used only when the unit is preceded by a numeral. When the unit is not preceded by a numeral, spell out the name of the unit. In text, even when a numerical value is given, it is desirable to spell out the name of the unit. Moreover, the name shall be spelled out when it first appears in the text, and more often if the text is lengthy.
Thus, in text write "...a sound pressure level of 73 dB; or "...a sound pressure level of 73 decibels." Do not write "sound pressure level in dB"; the correct form is "sound pressure level in decibels." Do not write "dB levels", "dB readings", or "dB SPL."
Levels or readings are not of decibels; they are of sound pressure levels or some other acoustical quantity. Write out the word "decibel" for such applications, and be sure that the word 'decibel' follows, not precedes the description of the relevant acoustical quantity.
The use of "dB SPL", as shown above by an authoritative source, is wrong. The incorrect use is common in Wikipedia articles, it is a problem. I've been leaving a message in the talk sections of various articles that need to have this fixed. It does not help to have my corrections of a real error reverted to the incorrect state. The articles that need correction include decibel, sound pressure, sound pressure level, and audiogram, but these are just a few of many that include the incorrect usage.
The treatment of sound pressure level is inconsistent with standard reference works across Wikipedia. Both Kinsler and Frey's "Fundamentals of Acoustics" (2nd edition) and Robert Urick's "Principles of Underwater Sound" (3rd edition) indicate that a measured intensity is a level (Urick p.15) or sound pressure level (K&F) relative to a reference effective pressure (K&F pp.125-126). Both of these sources recommend reporting decibels with an explicit listing of the reference effective pressure, like so: "74 dB re 20 micropascals", where the number and units following re is the reference effective pressure. Level or sound pressure level in both these standard texts simply refer to a measurement in the sound field and are not indications of a specific reference pressure upon which the decibel is based. In other words, "dBSPL" is an incorrect means of attempting to refer to the in-air reference effective pressure. In no article thus far have I seen the "dBSPL" usage tied to an authoritative source. By contrast, the "dB re" formalism is common to both standard reference works that I have cited, and is explicitly excluded in the work laying out the format for the national standards.
Other sites using the "dB re" formalism: Oceans of Noise (explicit in defining SPL and SIL in terms of "dB re"), SURTASS LFA, NIST listing SPL in terms of "dB re", and Acoustic Impacts on Marine Mammals. Wesley R. Elsberry 14:01, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
The supposed "better reference" for use of "dB SPL" added to the decibel article ends up being a document that merely includes "dB SPL" in a list of terms. The glossary within the same document does not even list this supposed term, even though weighted decibel terms are defined. The glossary in the file does have an entry for "sound pressure level", which is
Sound pressure level: (1) Ten times the logarithm to the base ten of the ratio of the time-mean-square pressure of a sound, in a stated frequency band, to the square of the reference sound pressure in gases of 20 micropascals (µPa). Unit, dB; symbol, Lp. (2) For sound in media other than gases, unless otherwise specified, reference sound pressure in 1 µPa (ANSI S1.1-1994: sound pressure level).
Notice that the unit is "dB", NOT "dB SPL". The inclusion of "dB SPL" in their list of terms does NOT establish that their usage is correct, and even their own reference of the ANSI standard indicates that their usage is incorrect. SPL refers to a measurement, and is NOT an indication of the reference effective pressure. The ANSI standard referenced makes this clear, as SPL is defined as being used for other reference effective pressures, too. Wesley R. Elsberry 16:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
Omegatron - I have a favor to ask of you. Can you work with me to update {{ Infobox Aircraft}}? The template is way to generic and is not being used by any articles. I think this is a prime candidate for creating a detailed infobox. Ideally it would be flexible for both civilian and military aircraft - see ( Boeing 737, Pipers, F-15, [C-130 Hercules]] B-2 Spirit. I have left a message about my suggestion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft. Thanks! -- Reflex Reaction ( talk)• 14:36, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for busy watching and reverting. It's one of those spots in Wikipedia... -- Pjacobi 17:14, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
You say you've started blocking, therefore I'm assuming you're an admin. This looks like a case for semi-protection, which you'll be able to apply. Petros471 17:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi! Could you take a look (and possibly write your opinion) at [8] and as an example at [9]? Thanks! -- Ligulem 08:23, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Possible to change the current icon with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Tango-video-x-generic.png which I just uploaded?
Spiff 18:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Nevermind. That's clearly better. :-) — Omegatron 05:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey, you're the only person i know that i know is an admin, so I was wondering if you could help me with a situation I have with User:JzG. He put up the page Personal_rapid_transit/UniModal for deletion, and there was some small discussion involving him, me, and a known vandal and PRT opponent Ken Avidor. I called for a vote, and it was unaniomous 9 votes that voted down the deletion.
After that, JzG cited that "AfD is not a vote", and "merged" the page with PRT. Really he merged one sentence out of the fairly large article SkyTran (links to old article) - and then deleted the rest, instead redirecting that page to Personal rapid transit.
It is my opinion that even a merge needs another proposal and another vote. But JzG doesn't think so, and basically went through with deleting the page. I consider his acts knowing vandalism - but I don't know how to deal with an uncooperative admin.
I was wondering if you could:
Here are links to places where this has been discussed:
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#Vandalism_and_uncooperation_of_an_admin
Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Personal_rapid_transit/UniModal
Talk:Personal_rapid_transit/UniModal
Hi! Thanks for reverting some of my contribution to damping factor. I was surprised to find what I thought was gross misinformation on this page, and I attempted to shed some light on the subject, deleting what I believed to be bad information.
I'm an electrical engineer with 20 years of experience in the CD and DVD business, and I know enough about audio to be dangerous. In my experience, you can easily hear the difference between a high quality amplifier with a high damping factor, and a cheap amplifier with a low damping factor. A high damping factor translates to "tight bass". It is easy to describe from a scientific perspective also (objects in motion, such as the cone of a bass driver, tend to stay in motion, or resonate, generating unwanted sound, unless the amplifier forces the voltage to the desired level, and the electromagnetic voice coil resists this unwanted motion).
I'd be interested in your thoughts, as you have obviously contributed a great deal to this page, and you are also an engineer and an audio pro. Tvaughan1 22:45, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
I am writing you because I note in the History for cite/cite.php that you have been active recently in developing that article and I am hoping that either you can answer my question or you know someone who can.
I am a Wikipedian who has written quite a number of chemical engineering articles. I have been using <ref name=whatever>some reference</ref> to define my references and then <references/> to get them displayed in the References section.
I notice that when I use a reference only one time, the vertical arrow in the Reference section listing is very thin and spindly and hard-to-see. But when I use a reference multiple times, the vertical arrow and the accompanying superscripts (a b c ..) are quite bold and really stand out well. My question is why can't the arrow for a single-use reference look just as bold and well-defined as the arrow for a multiple-use reference?
As an aside, I must say that Cite/cite.php at [10] needs to be completely re-written by a non-computer guru so that we ordinary mortals can understand it. It is virtually incomprehensible at the moment. - mbeychok 17:46, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
If we look at the cite.php references in Tourette syndrome, they render as daggers and straight vertical lines, and they are all bold and well defined ... but they are at 80% font size. I changed them to 100% font size and then they looked exactly like the poorly defined vertical arrows I've been seeing on my IE browser. Look at these two screen shots of the Tourette references, one is using regular 100% font size and one is using 80% font size ==> image:Tourette references 100%.jpg and ==> image:Tourette references 80%.jpg
There is no question but that the font size changes the appearance entirely! Cite.php should abandon the arrows and go back to using the caret. - mbeychok 17:02, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Omegatron, I noticed you reverted my change to the word "exaggerated" for the PRT skeptic image on the PRT page. How else are we to accurately describe this image, which is an intentionally misleading representation of PRT used in a political campaign? Avidor himself (the creator of the image) admitted he used a guideway from a different PRT system (Raytheon) than was under consideration for Minnesota. And Raytheon's system was MUCH more visually imposing than Taxi2000, the proposed system for Minnesota, so there's no question this is a misrepresentation. I also object to the inclusion of a reference to the "Cyberspace Dream" article, which is basically a light rail advocacy brochure that has been rebutted point-by-point by PRT proponents. JzG has insisted we cannot list individual rebuttals to the Cyberspace Dream article, so doesn't the inclusion of this contentious article without its rebuttals give it undue weight? A Transportation Enthusiast 18:53, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Bizarre, huh? One cannot help suspecting that User:Starski, anon 70.71.3.193, and John Hutchison are one and the same. I'm not sure I've ever seen an anon register and then threaten to come back and robovandalize the WP! If I read that right, he also claim to have your IP and he seems to threaten you with some kind of personalized retaliation! ARIN gives legal email for Shaw Cablesystems G.P. (shawcable.net) in case that proves handy. --- CH 06:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Actually, while User:Starski and anon 70.71.3.193 seem to be the same, it seems that a Hutchison supporter called Mel Winfield also lives in Vancouver, and someone linked from this article (and/or Hutchison effect to his [www.spacetelescopes.com/gravitation.html website]. Go figure, I guess--- CH 09:32, 25 April 2006 (UTC)