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Welcome, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please read our policy on verifiability and how to cite a reliable source for any data you add (blogs and personal web pages with no editorial oversight are not considered reliable). Thanks. RadioKirk ( u| t| c) 14:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I notice that you've made numerous edits to Claudette Colbert. Some of them are very good and I know you only want what is best for the article. I think perhaps you don't quite understand how sources are cited, and it may be helpful if you read WP:Cite and WP:Verifiability. There are some sections or paragraphs that discuss a few aspects of one subject, and the cite is given at the end of the paragraph. This cite often covers all of the text in that paragraph, so to add "cite needed" to smaller sections results in too many "cite needed"s being added.
For example, you added "cited needed" in two places in this paragraph (although there are several examples throughout the article):
Filming began in a tense atmosphere;{{Fact|date=March 2007}} Colbert and her costar Clark Gable agreed that the script was below standard,{{Fact|date=March 2007}} but soon established a friendly working relationship and admitted that the script was no worse than many of their earlier films. <ref>{{cite book |last= Harris |first= Warren G. |title= Clark Gable, A Biography |year= 2002 |publisher= Aurum Press |id= ISBN 1 85410 904 9 |pages= pp 112-114}}</ref> Capra recalled Colbert's dissatisfaction with the part, commenting, "Colbert fretted, pouted and argued about her part... she was a tartar, but a cute one." <ref>{{cite book |last= Hirschnor |first= Joel |title= Rating the Movie Stars for Home Video, TV and Cable |year= 1983 |publisher= Publications International Limited |id= ISBN 0-88176-152-4 |pages= p 87}}</ref>
The whole paragraph is cited to the Harris book. The facts taken from that source are :
1. filming began in a tense atmosphere
2. Colbert and Gable agreed that the script was bad
3. they worked well together
Here's another example, note the section that is in bold text. This problem was caused by you splitting the paragraphs, so rather than add a "fact" tag, you should carefully check what is already there.
She was also sensitive to her age, and later admitted that her transition from young leading actress to the mature roles she later played, was difficult for her.{{Fact|date=March 2007}} Veronica Lake related that during filming of So Proudly We Hail! (1943), a rift occurred between Colbert and Paulette Goddard when Colbert overheard a remark made by Goddard in an interview. Asked which of her costars she preferred, Goddard had replied, "Veronica, I think. After all, we are closer in age". Lake commented that Colbert "flipped" and "was at Paulette's eyes at every moment" and said that they continued their feud throughout the duration of filming.{{Fact|date=March 2007}} Colbert was miffed because Goddard (33 at the time) was actually closer to Colbert's age (40) than Veronica Lake's (24).
Hedda Hopper described Colbert as the "smartest and canniest" of Hollywood actresses, with a strong sense of what was best for her, and a "deep rooted desire to be in shape, efficient and under control". <ref>Shipman, David, Movie Talk, St Martin's Press, 1988. ISBN 0-312-03403-2; p 126 Quotes from Veronica Lake and Hedda Hopper are both taken from this source</ref>
It is not necessary to add a source at the end of each sentence, or to cover each point within each sentence. If that was the case every article would end up with hundreds, perhaps thousands of cites, most of them repeated numerous times. Most commonly, cites are required for information that may be disputed, not for every piece of information within an article. In many cases they are not needed. This is just a friendly suggestion, and not a criticism. If there is anything you are not sure about, if you would ever like any help, just send me a message and I will be happy to help you. Thanks Rossrs 23:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
This account has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry to avoid a block on your previous account, and for tendentious editing, removal of sourced material, and total unwillingness to engage in discussion on Claudette Colbert. When you are prepared to work collaboratively with other editors and engage in discussion with them instead of attempting to own pages, please place {{unblock|reason here}} on this page to have your block reviewed. Seraphimblade Talk to me 11:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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Welcome, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. Please read our policy on verifiability and how to cite a reliable source for any data you add (blogs and personal web pages with no editorial oversight are not considered reliable). Thanks. RadioKirk ( u| t| c) 14:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I notice that you've made numerous edits to Claudette Colbert. Some of them are very good and I know you only want what is best for the article. I think perhaps you don't quite understand how sources are cited, and it may be helpful if you read WP:Cite and WP:Verifiability. There are some sections or paragraphs that discuss a few aspects of one subject, and the cite is given at the end of the paragraph. This cite often covers all of the text in that paragraph, so to add "cite needed" to smaller sections results in too many "cite needed"s being added.
For example, you added "cited needed" in two places in this paragraph (although there are several examples throughout the article):
Filming began in a tense atmosphere;{{Fact|date=March 2007}} Colbert and her costar Clark Gable agreed that the script was below standard,{{Fact|date=March 2007}} but soon established a friendly working relationship and admitted that the script was no worse than many of their earlier films. <ref>{{cite book |last= Harris |first= Warren G. |title= Clark Gable, A Biography |year= 2002 |publisher= Aurum Press |id= ISBN 1 85410 904 9 |pages= pp 112-114}}</ref> Capra recalled Colbert's dissatisfaction with the part, commenting, "Colbert fretted, pouted and argued about her part... she was a tartar, but a cute one." <ref>{{cite book |last= Hirschnor |first= Joel |title= Rating the Movie Stars for Home Video, TV and Cable |year= 1983 |publisher= Publications International Limited |id= ISBN 0-88176-152-4 |pages= p 87}}</ref>
The whole paragraph is cited to the Harris book. The facts taken from that source are :
1. filming began in a tense atmosphere
2. Colbert and Gable agreed that the script was bad
3. they worked well together
Here's another example, note the section that is in bold text. This problem was caused by you splitting the paragraphs, so rather than add a "fact" tag, you should carefully check what is already there.
She was also sensitive to her age, and later admitted that her transition from young leading actress to the mature roles she later played, was difficult for her.{{Fact|date=March 2007}} Veronica Lake related that during filming of So Proudly We Hail! (1943), a rift occurred between Colbert and Paulette Goddard when Colbert overheard a remark made by Goddard in an interview. Asked which of her costars she preferred, Goddard had replied, "Veronica, I think. After all, we are closer in age". Lake commented that Colbert "flipped" and "was at Paulette's eyes at every moment" and said that they continued their feud throughout the duration of filming.{{Fact|date=March 2007}} Colbert was miffed because Goddard (33 at the time) was actually closer to Colbert's age (40) than Veronica Lake's (24).
Hedda Hopper described Colbert as the "smartest and canniest" of Hollywood actresses, with a strong sense of what was best for her, and a "deep rooted desire to be in shape, efficient and under control". <ref>Shipman, David, Movie Talk, St Martin's Press, 1988. ISBN 0-312-03403-2; p 126 Quotes from Veronica Lake and Hedda Hopper are both taken from this source</ref>
It is not necessary to add a source at the end of each sentence, or to cover each point within each sentence. If that was the case every article would end up with hundreds, perhaps thousands of cites, most of them repeated numerous times. Most commonly, cites are required for information that may be disputed, not for every piece of information within an article. In many cases they are not needed. This is just a friendly suggestion, and not a criticism. If there is anything you are not sure about, if you would ever like any help, just send me a message and I will be happy to help you. Thanks Rossrs 23:21, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
This account has been blocked indefinitely for sockpuppetry to avoid a block on your previous account, and for tendentious editing, removal of sourced material, and total unwillingness to engage in discussion on Claudette Colbert. When you are prepared to work collaboratively with other editors and engage in discussion with them instead of attempting to own pages, please place {{unblock|reason here}} on this page to have your block reviewed. Seraphimblade Talk to me 11:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)