Sorry, I was using shorthand there - by "self-reference", I meant a Wikipedia reference. Articles shouldn't include links to the Wikipedia namespace, as the encyclopedia should be able to stand alone without the project pages. See Wikipedia:Avoid self-references. — sjorford (talk) 09:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, then, I will consider a diambiguation page then. Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian) (talk)
Sorry about that, I missed the difference; my bad. Gwernol 03:37, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment on the Justin Clemens discussion. I believe referring to Clemens in the Sonnet article is inappropriate (I will take this up further in the discussion page of that article) and this I think counted heavily in perceptions of the standing of the article on Clemens. The whole thing did indeed smell of vanity and vandalism, even if that is not what was intended. I'm not sure if it is worth pursuing any discussion on the 'as notable as Forbes' issue, but a quick check with books.google confirms that Forbes has an international reputation as a key figure in Australian poetry from the 70's to the 90's, whereas Clemens has a small visiblility as an academic. Anyhow, I'm not the right person to engage in that particlar discussion, as I am biased: I was a friend of John's from the early 90's up to his death. — Stumps 09:37, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi -- I proposed this policy for deletion using the prod system, and I also changed it to not be an "official policy" but rather a proposed one. I don't know what policy you were intending this to be... my guess is that "not just internet" sources should be used, or something... I have no objection to removing the prod if you would just explain your idea. But unless this has been accepted by the community, it really shouldn't be an "official policy". Mangojuice 20:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, I was using shorthand there - by "self-reference", I meant a Wikipedia reference. Articles shouldn't include links to the Wikipedia namespace, as the encyclopedia should be able to stand alone without the project pages. See Wikipedia:Avoid self-references. — sjorford (talk) 09:06, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Okay, then, I will consider a diambiguation page then. Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian) (talk)
Sorry about that, I missed the difference; my bad. Gwernol 03:37, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for your comment on the Justin Clemens discussion. I believe referring to Clemens in the Sonnet article is inappropriate (I will take this up further in the discussion page of that article) and this I think counted heavily in perceptions of the standing of the article on Clemens. The whole thing did indeed smell of vanity and vandalism, even if that is not what was intended. I'm not sure if it is worth pursuing any discussion on the 'as notable as Forbes' issue, but a quick check with books.google confirms that Forbes has an international reputation as a key figure in Australian poetry from the 70's to the 90's, whereas Clemens has a small visiblility as an academic. Anyhow, I'm not the right person to engage in that particlar discussion, as I am biased: I was a friend of John's from the early 90's up to his death. — Stumps 09:37, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Hi -- I proposed this policy for deletion using the prod system, and I also changed it to not be an "official policy" but rather a proposed one. I don't know what policy you were intending this to be... my guess is that "not just internet" sources should be used, or something... I have no objection to removing the prod if you would just explain your idea. But unless this has been accepted by the community, it really shouldn't be an "official policy". Mangojuice 20:01, 21 March 2006 (UTC)