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Wikipedia is currently not reflecting the correct situation in Tibet. The article Tibet (just like the Tibetan nation) is under the rule of certain chinese nationalists. I am trying to edit the article to make it objective, truthful, to show how the Tibetan people are suffering and to bring some light to these unfortunate events. The article has a certain "tone". The Tibetan Autonomous Region article is simply POV. Now if the article was really written by everybody and the admin wasn't a chinese and a nationalist we could have a democratic place to discuss these issues. Instead Wikipedia, just like in the real world is reflecting the interests of the few, the admins. I have tried to edit simple things with no success! Me 19:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
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Moreover, do not remove contents from your own user talkpage. [8] [9] Aranherunar 03:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
there is actually proof that tibet was an independent nation: first tibetan passport [12] the treaty between the tang dynasty of china and tibet [13]
the same pillar that once used to be in changan (destroyed by cultural revolution?) alos stands in lhasa. it is written in both chinese and tibetan.
it is translate as:
"the great king of Tibet, the divine manifestation, the bTsan-po and the great king of China, the chinse ruler Hwang Te, nephew and uncle, having consulted about the alliance of their dominions have made a greate treaty and ratified the agreement.
both Tibet and China shall keep the country and frontiers of which they now are in possession. the whole region to the east of that being the country of Great China and the whole region to the west being assuredly the country of Great Tibet, from either side of that frontier there shall be no warfare, no hostile invasions and no seizure of terrority.
now that the dominions are allied and a great treat of peace has been made in this way, since it is necessary also to continue the communication of plesant message between nephew and uncle, envoys setting out from either side shall follow the old establishe route.
according to the close and friendly relationship between nephew and uncle the customary courtesy and respect shall be practiced. between the two countries, no smoke or dust shall appear. not even a word of sudden alarm or of enmity shall be spoken and from those who guard the frontier upwards,all shall live at east without suspicion or fear, their land being their land and thei bed their bed.. and in order that this agreement establishing a great era when Tibetans shall be happy in Tibet and Chinese shall be happy in China shall never be changed, the Three Jewels, the body of the Saints, and the sun and the moon, planets and star have been invoked as witnesses."
the book is: The status of Tibet: History, Rights, and Prospects in International Law by Dr. Michael C. van Walt van Pragg Copyright 1987 Published by Wisdom Publications in London
Hi there. Please consider WP:NOT a soapbox, and leave your political opinions off article talk pages. They are causing unnecessary tension among editors. If there is some political comment which is appropriate to the discussion at hand, that is fine. However, long sections created purely for the expression of political opinion does not really help improving articles. -- Sumple ( Talk) 04:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
And please, no racism. Not all Chinese are nationalists, and not all nationalists are POV. [15]. Hope you will not violate the rulers again, and happy editing. Aranherunar 08:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I may or may not agree with you about Tibet, but you can't make your user page into an alternative article about Tibet. Fred Bauder 21:48, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
You have been reported at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention because your user account's name may be inappropriate. It may have nationalist overtones. Regardless of what the outcome may be, please consider changing your user name to something more reasonable. 122.105.149.196 ( talk) 10:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
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Wikipedia is currently not reflecting the correct situation in Tibet. The article Tibet (just like the Tibetan nation) is under the rule of certain chinese nationalists. I am trying to edit the article to make it objective, truthful, to show how the Tibetan people are suffering and to bring some light to these unfortunate events. The article has a certain "tone". The Tibetan Autonomous Region article is simply POV. Now if the article was really written by everybody and the admin wasn't a chinese and a nationalist we could have a democratic place to discuss these issues. Instead Wikipedia, just like in the real world is reflecting the interests of the few, the admins. I have tried to edit simple things with no success! Me 19:31, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on the contributor; personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks may lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. [1] [2] [3]
Please be extremely careful when adding material to articles or talk pages that it does not involve
defamation. Comments that defame an individual may leave you open to being sued by them. Your status here, whether as a signed-on user or as an anonymous IP, would not protect you. Someone you defame could get a court order instructing your
service provider to supply your details to them. They could then sue you for damages. While Section 230 of the United States
Communications Decency Act may protect Wikipedia from being sued for defamation, it may not protect the person who posted a defamatory claim on a Wikipedia page.
Furthermore, the
Wikimedia Foundation's
Board of Trustees has ruled that: Where the user has been vandalising articles or persistently behaving in a disruptive way, [personal information] data may be released to assist in the targeting of IP blocks, or to assist in the formulation of a complaint to relevant Internet Service Providers.
(Wikimedia privacy policy in full)
This notice has been left for you because another Wikipedia user suspects that, perhaps innocently, you may have defamed someone in your contributions. Please recheck
your edits. Do not make allegations against someone unless you have provided evidence from a reliable publication, and then make sure you describe the allegations in accordance with our content policies, particularly
Wikipedia:Verifiability and
Wikipedia:No original research. Don't rely on hearsay, rumours, or things you believe without evidence to be facts, and don't use sources to create a
novel narrative. Wikipedia requires reliable sources for all claims.
If you repeatedly defamed someone, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. If you find that you have inadvertently defamed someone in an article, do two things:
Please stop targeting one or more user's pages or talk pages for abuse or insults, unwarranted doctoring or blanking. It can be seen as vandalism and may get you blocked from editing Wikipedia. [7]
Moreover, do not remove contents from your own user talkpage. [8] [9] Aranherunar 03:13, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
there is actually proof that tibet was an independent nation: first tibetan passport [12] the treaty between the tang dynasty of china and tibet [13]
the same pillar that once used to be in changan (destroyed by cultural revolution?) alos stands in lhasa. it is written in both chinese and tibetan.
it is translate as:
"the great king of Tibet, the divine manifestation, the bTsan-po and the great king of China, the chinse ruler Hwang Te, nephew and uncle, having consulted about the alliance of their dominions have made a greate treaty and ratified the agreement.
both Tibet and China shall keep the country and frontiers of which they now are in possession. the whole region to the east of that being the country of Great China and the whole region to the west being assuredly the country of Great Tibet, from either side of that frontier there shall be no warfare, no hostile invasions and no seizure of terrority.
now that the dominions are allied and a great treat of peace has been made in this way, since it is necessary also to continue the communication of plesant message between nephew and uncle, envoys setting out from either side shall follow the old establishe route.
according to the close and friendly relationship between nephew and uncle the customary courtesy and respect shall be practiced. between the two countries, no smoke or dust shall appear. not even a word of sudden alarm or of enmity shall be spoken and from those who guard the frontier upwards,all shall live at east without suspicion or fear, their land being their land and thei bed their bed.. and in order that this agreement establishing a great era when Tibetans shall be happy in Tibet and Chinese shall be happy in China shall never be changed, the Three Jewels, the body of the Saints, and the sun and the moon, planets and star have been invoked as witnesses."
the book is: The status of Tibet: History, Rights, and Prospects in International Law by Dr. Michael C. van Walt van Pragg Copyright 1987 Published by Wisdom Publications in London
Hi there. Please consider WP:NOT a soapbox, and leave your political opinions off article talk pages. They are causing unnecessary tension among editors. If there is some political comment which is appropriate to the discussion at hand, that is fine. However, long sections created purely for the expression of political opinion does not really help improving articles. -- Sumple ( Talk) 04:44, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
And please, no racism. Not all Chinese are nationalists, and not all nationalists are POV. [15]. Hope you will not violate the rulers again, and happy editing. Aranherunar 08:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
I may or may not agree with you about Tibet, but you can't make your user page into an alternative article about Tibet. Fred Bauder 21:48, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
You have been reported at Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention because your user account's name may be inappropriate. It may have nationalist overtones. Regardless of what the outcome may be, please consider changing your user name to something more reasonable. 122.105.149.196 ( talk) 10:59, 21 September 2008 (UTC)