Thanks for your addition to
Sis#Other. Can you clarify -- especially since your description, and the one i suppressed into comments are so similar -- whether "Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor" and "Superconductor-Isolator-Superconductor" are synonyms, or refer to structures that exploit different phenomena? But still thanks in any case! (Right here on your talk page would be a fine place to reply.)
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Jerzy•
t
13:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor and Superconductor-Isolator-Superconductor are indeed synonyms. Both refer to an electronic device which consists of two superconductors separated by a very thing layer of insultating material, often, but not necessarily, and oxide layer of the first superconductor. They are generally manufactured by laying layers of superconducting metals (e.g. niobium, lead) through photolithographic masks, and either putting a very thin layer of a metal to oxidize (eg Al203 in Nb-Al203-Nb junctions) or just oxidizing one of the layers (eg Pb-Pb0-Pb) junctions.
I don't believe EITHER of these terms has any real relationship to the Superconductor Insulator Transition article cited. That refers to long range order in perhaps thin films of superconducting materials, but has no reference to any two-terminal devices such as the SIS. Further, the SIS has SUDDEN transitions in the material realm, and the superconducting states on either side of the insulating barrier are essentially not perturbed from their bulk properties.
I am SLOWLY working on the SIS article which I guess you found at my user page. I should make it a little more about the device before it is ready for prime time. I made it a bit heavy on the application of heterodyne receivers because that is/was my expertise.
But you are right, they are synonyms, but NEITHER of them has any real relationship to the Superconductor Insulator Transition article.
Mwengler ( talk) 19:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jerzy,
Assuming you are watching this page and that's why you said I could answer here. I have edited on my user page and now created the article Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor. Time to take junior to soccer, so I'll let it sit, see if it attracts comment or other notice. I will unless I hear reason not to, probably edit the SIS disambiguation page to combine Superconductor-Isolator-Superconductor with Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor and remove references to the Superconductor Insulator Transition page.
This is my first article. wikipedia is amazing, I have been using it for years and it just keeps getting better and better. I look forward to feedback and learning how to do this fairly well. Mwengler ( talk) 21:57, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
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08:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for your addition to
Sis#Other. Can you clarify -- especially since your description, and the one i suppressed into comments are so similar -- whether "Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor" and "Superconductor-Isolator-Superconductor" are synonyms, or refer to structures that exploit different phenomena? But still thanks in any case! (Right here on your talk page would be a fine place to reply.)
--
Jerzy•
t
13:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor and Superconductor-Isolator-Superconductor are indeed synonyms. Both refer to an electronic device which consists of two superconductors separated by a very thing layer of insultating material, often, but not necessarily, and oxide layer of the first superconductor. They are generally manufactured by laying layers of superconducting metals (e.g. niobium, lead) through photolithographic masks, and either putting a very thin layer of a metal to oxidize (eg Al203 in Nb-Al203-Nb junctions) or just oxidizing one of the layers (eg Pb-Pb0-Pb) junctions.
I don't believe EITHER of these terms has any real relationship to the Superconductor Insulator Transition article cited. That refers to long range order in perhaps thin films of superconducting materials, but has no reference to any two-terminal devices such as the SIS. Further, the SIS has SUDDEN transitions in the material realm, and the superconducting states on either side of the insulating barrier are essentially not perturbed from their bulk properties.
I am SLOWLY working on the SIS article which I guess you found at my user page. I should make it a little more about the device before it is ready for prime time. I made it a bit heavy on the application of heterodyne receivers because that is/was my expertise.
But you are right, they are synonyms, but NEITHER of them has any real relationship to the Superconductor Insulator Transition article.
Mwengler ( talk) 19:12, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Hi Jerzy,
Assuming you are watching this page and that's why you said I could answer here. I have edited on my user page and now created the article Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor. Time to take junior to soccer, so I'll let it sit, see if it attracts comment or other notice. I will unless I hear reason not to, probably edit the SIS disambiguation page to combine Superconductor-Isolator-Superconductor with Superconductor-Insulator-Superconductor and remove references to the Superconductor Insulator Transition page.
This is my first article. wikipedia is amazing, I have been using it for years and it just keeps getting better and better. I look forward to feedback and learning how to do this fairly well. Mwengler ( talk) 21:57, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Welcome!
Hello, Mwengler, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
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Jerzy•
t
08:09, 25 October 2009 (UTC)