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Hi. What guideline are you referring to when you say "BBC guidelines for wikipedia articles"? The only Wikipedia guideline I'm aware of when it comes to musical groups is the one called WP:BAND, which has a number of different criteria for inclusion. Being put in regular rotation is one of the criteria, but being played once per week for three weeks doesn't qualifies for this as far as I know. Please check the other criterias in the article I linked to see if there is anything else that might qualify the article for inclusion. Bjelleklang - talk 08:24, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for getting in touch. The BBC has band pages when someone is played on air and they use Wikipedia to get biographical info. They have help pages which explain how to do this and one part talks about notability https://sites.google.com/site/bbcartistpages/home/wikipedia About half way down it says
"Notability: Wikipedia summarises its notability guidelines for musicians and ensembles as:
Notability is met if the musician has been the subject of a broadcast by a media network."
This seems to me to be met by the band being played 3 times on national BBC radio, once on BBC local radio and once on Irish national radio in the last six weeks. Last year they were played on BBC local radio and also Irish national radio. The band's artist page at the BBC is here http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/58572196-2792-4c66-a7f8-985753bc5d17
Musicfan1812 ( talk) 14:54, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I understand you are reluctant to be corrected by the BBC, three plays in three weeks on national radio is substantial, find me an example of a new band with that much coverage. This is a problem with wikipedia, no subject matter experts. I saw Roger Waters perform the Wall in Berlin in 1990, no radio play for that, one concert so not notable? Half Man Half Biscuit have never had a top 40 hit but have an entry on Wikipedia Musicfan1812 ( talk) 00:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to reply. One of the BBC shows said they would do an interview if that occurs I'll add it when it broadcasts. Musicfan1812 ( talk) 13:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
So far as I can see this band does not meet the criteria. The BBC article about creating Wikipedian pages warns about the notability factor. The citations are of little or no consequence. The BBC page cited says they have no biographical information. That, in itself, speaks volumes about the notability of this band.
Kanuk ( talk) 22:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)
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19:46, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hi. What guideline are you referring to when you say "BBC guidelines for wikipedia articles"? The only Wikipedia guideline I'm aware of when it comes to musical groups is the one called WP:BAND, which has a number of different criteria for inclusion. Being put in regular rotation is one of the criteria, but being played once per week for three weeks doesn't qualifies for this as far as I know. Please check the other criterias in the article I linked to see if there is anything else that might qualify the article for inclusion. Bjelleklang - talk 08:24, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
Hi. Thanks for getting in touch. The BBC has band pages when someone is played on air and they use Wikipedia to get biographical info. They have help pages which explain how to do this and one part talks about notability https://sites.google.com/site/bbcartistpages/home/wikipedia About half way down it says
"Notability: Wikipedia summarises its notability guidelines for musicians and ensembles as:
Notability is met if the musician has been the subject of a broadcast by a media network."
This seems to me to be met by the band being played 3 times on national BBC radio, once on BBC local radio and once on Irish national radio in the last six weeks. Last year they were played on BBC local radio and also Irish national radio. The band's artist page at the BBC is here http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/58572196-2792-4c66-a7f8-985753bc5d17
Musicfan1812 ( talk) 14:54, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
I understand you are reluctant to be corrected by the BBC, three plays in three weeks on national radio is substantial, find me an example of a new band with that much coverage. This is a problem with wikipedia, no subject matter experts. I saw Roger Waters perform the Wall in Berlin in 1990, no radio play for that, one concert so not notable? Half Man Half Biscuit have never had a top 40 hit but have an entry on Wikipedia Musicfan1812 ( talk) 00:07, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to reply. One of the BBC shows said they would do an interview if that occurs I'll add it when it broadcasts. Musicfan1812 ( talk) 13:30, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
So far as I can see this band does not meet the criteria. The BBC article about creating Wikipedian pages warns about the notability factor. The citations are of little or no consequence. The BBC page cited says they have no biographical information. That, in itself, speaks volumes about the notability of this band.
Kanuk ( talk) 22:24, 26 February 2013 (UTC)