I replied on the article talk page (best to let everyone in on the discussion). The basic point is that Jinnah is an important element in the partition of India but no more important than say Bose or Tilak in the Independence of India (both India's here refer to the pre-1947 entity). A photograph and a special mention under the partition section is appropriate but not in the independence section (otherwise we're going to have Bose supporters, Tilak supporters and Bhagat Singh supporters all clamoring to get in. -- RegentsPark ( sticks and stones) 03:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok agree just delete the discussion completely because then they say yes we should that Mughalnz ( talk) 03:59, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I suggest you report him to admins whenever he sends abusive remarks and respond accordingly thats the only way to shut up hindus we did rule them for 800 years you know not even kaali mataa could stop the mughals using her statues as furniture ;-) 86.158.238.222 ( talk) 11:30, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Mughalnz, the two pieces you removed are well-sourced. The B Raman statement is clearly identified as an opinion and the source is fine. The gilgit-baltistan statement is sourced by Asia Times, which is reliable. Regards. -- RegentsPark ( sticks and stones) 03:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I took a look at the two (Raman as well as Chatta). Raman belongs to a think tank and has the credentials for his opinion to be included in the article. I'm not sure about Chatta because I can't find any information on him or her. I would personally exclude that opinion. Is there an Asia Times article that has been excluded from the Indian Kashmir page? Let me know what it sources and I'll take a look. -- RegentsPark ( sticks and stones) 18:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
On September 2009 U.S. Drone strike reportedly killed Ilyas Kashmiri who was the chief of Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami a Kashmiri militant group associated with Al Qaeda. [2] Kashmiri was described by Riedel as a 'prominent' Al-qaeda member. [3] while others have described him as head of military operations for Al-Qaeda. [4] It was noted that Waziristan had now become the new battlefield for Kashmiri militants who were now fighting NATO in support of Al-Qaeda. [5] Kashmiri was also charged by U.S. in a plot against Jyllands-Posten the Danish newspaper which was at the center of Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. [6].
The leader of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen a major Kashmiri militant group, Fazlur Rehman Khalil, signed al-Qaeda's 1998 declaration of holy war, which called on Muslims to attack all Americans and their allies. [7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Mughalnz&action=edit§ion=4
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I replied on the article talk page (best to let everyone in on the discussion). The basic point is that Jinnah is an important element in the partition of India but no more important than say Bose or Tilak in the Independence of India (both India's here refer to the pre-1947 entity). A photograph and a special mention under the partition section is appropriate but not in the independence section (otherwise we're going to have Bose supporters, Tilak supporters and Bhagat Singh supporters all clamoring to get in. -- RegentsPark ( sticks and stones) 03:54, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Ok agree just delete the discussion completely because then they say yes we should that Mughalnz ( talk) 03:59, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
I suggest you report him to admins whenever he sends abusive remarks and respond accordingly thats the only way to shut up hindus we did rule them for 800 years you know not even kaali mataa could stop the mughals using her statues as furniture ;-) 86.158.238.222 ( talk) 11:30, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi Mughalnz, the two pieces you removed are well-sourced. The B Raman statement is clearly identified as an opinion and the source is fine. The gilgit-baltistan statement is sourced by Asia Times, which is reliable. Regards. -- RegentsPark ( sticks and stones) 03:00, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
I took a look at the two (Raman as well as Chatta). Raman belongs to a think tank and has the credentials for his opinion to be included in the article. I'm not sure about Chatta because I can't find any information on him or her. I would personally exclude that opinion. Is there an Asia Times article that has been excluded from the Indian Kashmir page? Let me know what it sources and I'll take a look. -- RegentsPark ( sticks and stones) 18:22, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
On September 2009 U.S. Drone strike reportedly killed Ilyas Kashmiri who was the chief of Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami a Kashmiri militant group associated with Al Qaeda. [2] Kashmiri was described by Riedel as a 'prominent' Al-qaeda member. [3] while others have described him as head of military operations for Al-Qaeda. [4] It was noted that Waziristan had now become the new battlefield for Kashmiri militants who were now fighting NATO in support of Al-Qaeda. [5] Kashmiri was also charged by U.S. in a plot against Jyllands-Posten the Danish newspaper which was at the center of Jyllands-Posten Muhammad cartoons controversy. [6].
The leader of the Harkat-ul-Mujahideen a major Kashmiri militant group, Fazlur Rehman Khalil, signed al-Qaeda's 1998 declaration of holy war, which called on Muslims to attack all Americans and their allies. [7]
http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=User_talk:Mughalnz&action=edit§ion=4
I just want to inform you that I reported the user User:Wikireader41 for his personal attacks against you at the following two places:
If he gives you trouble again and you take it up with the administrators, you can show them these links.-- Hj108 ( talk) 17:03, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
http://www.icasualties.org/OEF/Index.aspx
1707 killed(US:1032, UK: 279, Others: 396)
8,938+ wounded(US: 5,393 [1], UK: 3,545 [2]) 119.152.83.251 ( talk) 09:46, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
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