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Hello Mr rnddude: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Mona778 ( talk) 03:54, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I appreciate your efforts with MartinZ02 but a 14 year old kid who is not even a native speaker will probably struggle with it. Best would probably be to help keep an eye on his logs and impress upon him that he is not ready for any kind of maintenance or back-office work. Best wishes for the coming holidays, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 22:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
This is nutsis one of their more recent edit summaries. It's not a particularly useful contribution. Also, what's happened to the synatx on my talk page? Oh and I just realized my talk page has grown a bit unwieldy at 220k bytes, I'll go get myself an archiver to store the old discussions. Mr rnddude ( talk) 23:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks, but you are a bit too quick or I am a bit too slow (I had to go feed some chickens and turtles, not even kidding). I was about to post my carefully crafted WP:LASTWORD. I think it could be seriously helpful to post it, because it makes clear how I perceive the situation, and I am pretty sure it will reduce drama, not encourage it. Would you mind reverting yourself so I can post my WP:LASTWORD (you can close the section after that if you want to, or leave it be, idc)? ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 11:54, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
How is that edit reducing drama, it's just repeating the same justification for his name calling? Sorry for "continuing the drama" here, but what the hell? Slatersteven ( talk) 12:16, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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Oops. Messed that one up. I thought I had copied Donner60's post and then edited it. Thanks for catching that. Cheers Jim1138 ( talk) 10:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Mr rnddude,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Still working on the messages; I have interacted in some way with more people than I thought I had when I started placing these. In any event, have a happy New Year. Donner60 ( talk) 23:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Don't worry about pinging the wrong name. I turned on email notifications for my main account, and I've set up rules to forward them to my cellphone during the day when I'm at work. :) I meant to say this in the ANI thread but for some reason I just brain farted. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 16:01, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
and you'll get is straight back. Your pathetic attempt at backsliding - Suffice it to say I meant "not truthful" rather than "calculated lying". Poor choice to use disingenous [sic] which declares deliberate motive to deceive.- instead of apologising - got what is deserved. Leaky Caldron 17:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
diffuse the potential drama here. Hell you've brought the drama here. Now I have a question for you; why make it dramatic immediately, no chill, 0 to 100 instantly? If you can give me a solid reason for it, then maybe you'd get an apology for "disingenuous" till then you already know what I think, just not why I think it. I do regret enflaming it though, you have my sincerest apologies for that. No seriously, you do. Now, if you have something further to say, my talk page is available to anyone for anything. I don't remove comments, practically ever except to archives. Mr rnddude ( talk) 18:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
What did I do wrong?, I'll answer (despite the rhetorical nature of the question) but you might want to consider asking Ritchie as well, since the comments I took issue with were addressed to Ritchie, and it's quite possible I read them entirely differently to them. The only thing I think you did wrong; was fail to recognize that Ritchie was responding in good faith and not to undermine you, your question, or your position. I had a larger context to draw upon, this included your comments, questions, and oppose vote(s). Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cyberpower678 -
I fear, personally, that he will seek retribution for past disputes with me by finding an excuse to sanction me. I don't have much of a context for this comment but it struck as being a symptom that I translated to Ritchie's comments. A fundamental lack of AGF. Again, I think your response was 0 to 100. There is, in my honest opinion, a stark contrast between "please move your comments somewhere more appropriate" (example phrasing) and "get out of my questions, and stay out" + "I expect the CANDIDATE to answer MY question, your 2p is unwanted and unhelpful" (example paraphrase of my interpretation of your comments). I figure the all-caps
CANDIDATEand
MYwasn't meant to be yelling, but, I read it as such. You were well within your rights to ask Ritchie to move the comment elsewhere and ping you to it. Though whether that could have been conveyed less forcefully and without the suggestion of drama is a matter of opinion. My biggest issue with AGF stems from the "potential drama" comment which to me as a person who patrols many pages and admin noticeboards is basically a dog whistle that someone intends to take action if the other person does not comply; i.e. report it to the admins/drama boards. Case by case, that fails more often than succeeds. It was exacerbated by;
Please stay out of my RfA questions in future - or find a more suitable place to add your 2p. Thanks. You never know, the most suitable place for Ritchie's 2p may be one of your questions since both your questions targeted nominators comments specifically and Ritchie regularly noms other editors for the position of admin. Creating drama though does not seem to have been your intent.
If you do it again to my questions in RfA I'll delete it- what if they are a/the nominator and you're questioning their nominating statement as you did in both Q4 and 5 of Cyber's RfA? You had no issue with WJBscribe answering Q5 for Cyber, or at least, none that you conveyed. Mr rnddude ( talk) 16:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
I think it was clear where I pointed out that Richie was "neither the candidate or the nom." Only they should answer questions- I meant in future RfA's such as the very recent Primfac2 candidacy which Ritchie was a nominator.
[I]t is actually what all 3 of us have done there- yes, agreed. Mr rnddude ( talk) 18:44, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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That must have been an edit conflict, my apologies Fram ( talk) 16:21, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
I didn't act earlier because I didn't notice the remark and reverts earlier. I have the page on my watchlist (I have nominated a subpage for deletion last week, and had it on my watchlist before that), and happened to look at what the many edits were about. I then noticed Cassianto's reinstatement of the PA (for which I blocked). I also warned Davey2010 on his talk page for his previous reverts. I didn't warn Giano for his original comment, which I probably should have done, but which was too old to take action on anyway (in my opinion). So it's not "as long as it's not Cassianto making the personal attacks, people are free to make insensitive comments as they please. ", but "as long as I am not aware of PAs, I can hardly warn or block for them". Fram ( talk) 15:38, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello.It don't seem to be vandalism, can you look? I'l soon undo the you'r action. 95.49.109.205 ( talk) 18:12, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
The Quixotic Potato, Slatersteven is well aware of what happened at your AN/I case, they are the person who filed it. I mention this because of
this discussion on your talk page and more specifically your last comment; if you really want to know what actually happened then you'll have to spend a lot of time finding the diffs and reading them
. Which, given they were part of the discussion from
before the
start (
last comment pre-AN/I) to after the
finish (the aforementioned discussion), is not likely to be the case. I'm guessing that either you didn't notice, forgot, or chose to ignore it altogether in favour of mutual discussion. I can't really know. I just thought you ought to know that the person you're talking should be acutely aware of ... well most of it I suppose. I did notice something new while looking for the diffs. I realize now that Motsebboh is another editor on Wikipedia and not a personality elsewhere. What was
this comment about? it seems both a little on and a little off. From my reading of his several comments before yours he was seriously keen on getting the RfC to pass, but, he didn't bring up anything other than several criticisms of the SPLC. I don't know much bout the SPLC beyond that they focus on hate groups and racism. Your prerogative on whether you want to answer the question or not, it was very tangential to main point of this comment, and just struck me as a little bit odd to bring them into it.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 15:23, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
@Mr rnddude: Slatersteven doesn't know what happened, which explains why he reacts like this. I can't even blame him, because he would respond differently if he knew the whole story. You have discovered the tip of the iceberg. I assume you have read my userpage, so you know what my political POV is. I am a feminist and I hate extremists (e.g. antisemites and islamophobes). Long story short: I annoyed some racist gamergaters on 8chan, they were talking about the SPLC article and I requested protection for the article. I had to deal with a lot of idiots and I did that successfully for a while until I got pissed off and didn't have enough patience to deal with people who judge quickly and harshly without informing themselves, and so I ended up blocked instead of getting a barnstar. ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 16:13, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
No worries mate. Thank you, ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 18:08, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
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Hello Mr rnddude: Enjoy the holiday season and winter solstice if it's occurring in your area of the world, and thanks for your work to maintain, improve and expand Wikipedia. Cheers, Mona778 ( talk) 03:54, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
Hi. I appreciate your efforts with MartinZ02 but a 14 year old kid who is not even a native speaker will probably struggle with it. Best would probably be to help keep an eye on his logs and impress upon him that he is not ready for any kind of maintenance or back-office work. Best wishes for the coming holidays, Kudpung กุดผึ้ง ( talk) 22:34, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
This is nutsis one of their more recent edit summaries. It's not a particularly useful contribution. Also, what's happened to the synatx on my talk page? Oh and I just realized my talk page has grown a bit unwieldy at 220k bytes, I'll go get myself an archiver to store the old discussions. Mr rnddude ( talk) 23:02, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
If you go to the template's page you can see what it looks like now. I've shrunk it. Linguist If you reply to me here, please add {{ping|Linguist111}} to the start of your message 11:53, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
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Thanks, but you are a bit too quick or I am a bit too slow (I had to go feed some chickens and turtles, not even kidding). I was about to post my carefully crafted WP:LASTWORD. I think it could be seriously helpful to post it, because it makes clear how I perceive the situation, and I am pretty sure it will reduce drama, not encourage it. Would you mind reverting yourself so I can post my WP:LASTWORD (you can close the section after that if you want to, or leave it be, idc)? ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 11:54, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
How is that edit reducing drama, it's just repeating the same justification for his name calling? Sorry for "continuing the drama" here, but what the hell? Slatersteven ( talk) 12:16, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
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Oops. Messed that one up. I thought I had copied Donner60's post and then edited it. Thanks for catching that. Cheers Jim1138 ( talk) 10:52, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Mr rnddude,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable
New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
Donner60 (
talk) 23:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
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Still working on the messages; I have interacted in some way with more people than I thought I had when I started placing these. In any event, have a happy New Year. Donner60 ( talk) 23:12, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
Don't worry about pinging the wrong name. I turned on email notifications for my main account, and I've set up rules to forward them to my cellphone during the day when I'm at work. :) I meant to say this in the ANI thread but for some reason I just brain farted. MjolnirPants Tell me all about it. 16:01, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
and you'll get is straight back. Your pathetic attempt at backsliding - Suffice it to say I meant "not truthful" rather than "calculated lying". Poor choice to use disingenous [sic] which declares deliberate motive to deceive.- instead of apologising - got what is deserved. Leaky Caldron 17:27, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
diffuse the potential drama here. Hell you've brought the drama here. Now I have a question for you; why make it dramatic immediately, no chill, 0 to 100 instantly? If you can give me a solid reason for it, then maybe you'd get an apology for "disingenuous" till then you already know what I think, just not why I think it. I do regret enflaming it though, you have my sincerest apologies for that. No seriously, you do. Now, if you have something further to say, my talk page is available to anyone for anything. I don't remove comments, practically ever except to archives. Mr rnddude ( talk) 18:03, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
What did I do wrong?, I'll answer (despite the rhetorical nature of the question) but you might want to consider asking Ritchie as well, since the comments I took issue with were addressed to Ritchie, and it's quite possible I read them entirely differently to them. The only thing I think you did wrong; was fail to recognize that Ritchie was responding in good faith and not to undermine you, your question, or your position. I had a larger context to draw upon, this included your comments, questions, and oppose vote(s). Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Cyberpower678 -
I fear, personally, that he will seek retribution for past disputes with me by finding an excuse to sanction me. I don't have much of a context for this comment but it struck as being a symptom that I translated to Ritchie's comments. A fundamental lack of AGF. Again, I think your response was 0 to 100. There is, in my honest opinion, a stark contrast between "please move your comments somewhere more appropriate" (example phrasing) and "get out of my questions, and stay out" + "I expect the CANDIDATE to answer MY question, your 2p is unwanted and unhelpful" (example paraphrase of my interpretation of your comments). I figure the all-caps
CANDIDATEand
MYwasn't meant to be yelling, but, I read it as such. You were well within your rights to ask Ritchie to move the comment elsewhere and ping you to it. Though whether that could have been conveyed less forcefully and without the suggestion of drama is a matter of opinion. My biggest issue with AGF stems from the "potential drama" comment which to me as a person who patrols many pages and admin noticeboards is basically a dog whistle that someone intends to take action if the other person does not comply; i.e. report it to the admins/drama boards. Case by case, that fails more often than succeeds. It was exacerbated by;
Please stay out of my RfA questions in future - or find a more suitable place to add your 2p. Thanks. You never know, the most suitable place for Ritchie's 2p may be one of your questions since both your questions targeted nominators comments specifically and Ritchie regularly noms other editors for the position of admin. Creating drama though does not seem to have been your intent.
If you do it again to my questions in RfA I'll delete it- what if they are a/the nominator and you're questioning their nominating statement as you did in both Q4 and 5 of Cyber's RfA? You had no issue with WJBscribe answering Q5 for Cyber, or at least, none that you conveyed. Mr rnddude ( talk) 16:20, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
I think it was clear where I pointed out that Richie was "neither the candidate or the nom." Only they should answer questions- I meant in future RfA's such as the very recent Primfac2 candidacy which Ritchie was a nominator.
[I]t is actually what all 3 of us have done there- yes, agreed. Mr rnddude ( talk) 18:44, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
I have one that I made exclusively for Wikipedia use. You don't need to disclose any personal information to receive emails. I don't normally expect off-wiki replies from Wikipedians I email (except those whose emails I already know), and I'm pretty sure most Wikipedians who might want to email you are the same.
As to why I want you to be email-able, I can't reply to you directly on ANI because of this. In the interim, just know that I have read your comment and appreciated it.
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That must have been an edit conflict, my apologies Fram ( talk) 16:21, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
I didn't act earlier because I didn't notice the remark and reverts earlier. I have the page on my watchlist (I have nominated a subpage for deletion last week, and had it on my watchlist before that), and happened to look at what the many edits were about. I then noticed Cassianto's reinstatement of the PA (for which I blocked). I also warned Davey2010 on his talk page for his previous reverts. I didn't warn Giano for his original comment, which I probably should have done, but which was too old to take action on anyway (in my opinion). So it's not "as long as it's not Cassianto making the personal attacks, people are free to make insensitive comments as they please. ", but "as long as I am not aware of PAs, I can hardly warn or block for them". Fram ( talk) 15:38, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
Hello.It don't seem to be vandalism, can you look? I'l soon undo the you'r action. 95.49.109.205 ( talk) 18:12, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
The Quixotic Potato, Slatersteven is well aware of what happened at your AN/I case, they are the person who filed it. I mention this because of
this discussion on your talk page and more specifically your last comment; if you really want to know what actually happened then you'll have to spend a lot of time finding the diffs and reading them
. Which, given they were part of the discussion from
before the
start (
last comment pre-AN/I) to after the
finish (the aforementioned discussion), is not likely to be the case. I'm guessing that either you didn't notice, forgot, or chose to ignore it altogether in favour of mutual discussion. I can't really know. I just thought you ought to know that the person you're talking should be acutely aware of ... well most of it I suppose. I did notice something new while looking for the diffs. I realize now that Motsebboh is another editor on Wikipedia and not a personality elsewhere. What was
this comment about? it seems both a little on and a little off. From my reading of his several comments before yours he was seriously keen on getting the RfC to pass, but, he didn't bring up anything other than several criticisms of the SPLC. I don't know much bout the SPLC beyond that they focus on hate groups and racism. Your prerogative on whether you want to answer the question or not, it was very tangential to main point of this comment, and just struck me as a little bit odd to bring them into it.
Mr rnddude (
talk) 15:23, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
@Mr rnddude: Slatersteven doesn't know what happened, which explains why he reacts like this. I can't even blame him, because he would respond differently if he knew the whole story. You have discovered the tip of the iceberg. I assume you have read my userpage, so you know what my political POV is. I am a feminist and I hate extremists (e.g. antisemites and islamophobes). Long story short: I annoyed some racist gamergaters on 8chan, they were talking about the SPLC article and I requested protection for the article. I had to deal with a lot of idiots and I did that successfully for a while until I got pissed off and didn't have enough patience to deal with people who judge quickly and harshly without informing themselves, and so I ended up blocked instead of getting a barnstar. ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 16:13, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
No worries mate. Thank you, ((( The Quixotic Potato))) ( talk) 18:08, 3 February 2017 (UTC)