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Sorry, I missed your earlier post a few days ago. The intent, at least, was that if someone is having a cow, a dose of funny can defuse the situation. YMMV ("Your Mileage May Vary") in that not everyone finds the same things funny. So no insult was intended, and my apologies if it seemed like one. I am aware of instances of admin abuse (e.g. protecting a page in their preferred version) but that does not appear to be the case here.
I realize it's annoying if people use funky abbreviations to explain things; however, the reason people tend to do this is generally because we see a lot of situations that are similar to issues we've seen and discussed before - so people use shorter explanations and/or abbrevs because they (sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly) believe other people are also pretty much familiar with the kind of situation. Linking such terms gives at least some explanation of what is meant, but it may be incomplete. This may explain why such wikijargon is a bannable offense on Citizendium (although I doubt that approach is all that helpful).
The issue of admins "vs." regular editors is a rather complex situation. Power does come into it, but a part of that is in assumptions of non-admins, that may prove to be incorrect. The perception is that admins have more respect, and are more likely to be correct, than non-admins. However, this is a false causality: it is not that people gain more respect caused by becoming admins, it is that already-respected people have a tendency to become admins as a result.
In general I believe the term "admin" is badly chosen, in that it implies more power than is intended. For instance, I've seen people who believe that they're not allowed to disagree with an admin, an approach which most admins would find rather silly. Suppose that a non-admin would have "denied" the edit request and moved on, would that make the situation different? The "stepping-on-toes" issue is not nearly such a big deal: admins disagree with one another all the time, and undo each other's actions all the time. And there are clear and generally working channels to deal with actual problem admins; the main reason why these seem at times not to work is because most requests on these channels are frivolous.
I guess I should stop ranting now. I hope this clears some stuff up, and feel free to disagree or ask questions or whatnot. Happy editing! >Radiant< 11:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Find another source other than the student newspaper, and I have no problem with the material being included. As it stands, it's negative and critical, and that needs to be carefully sourced. A student newspaper does NOT cut it for that. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 20:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
It was originally a joke my friends and I had on someone's badly drawn Street Fighter fan manga. The only okay character was Charlie, so we started calling him "Well Drawn Charlie"...then they started calling me Well Drawn Charlie, and it stuck! Oh, and I always stay in the lines. Well Drawn Charli e 20:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate that you want the widest possible input on the Uni High dispute, but we discourage editors from engaging in internal spam. See WP:SPAM. It isn't good form to post a request in every possible place. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 02:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for commenting on the school categories. I'm replying here rather than on the categories page as it would appear that there is already a consensus for a merge and the battle has been lost. To me it makes much more sense to have a category entitled secondary schools. However, it would appear that the majority of American editors prefer the term high school and this is perhaps the reason why so many school categories have been mistakenly categorised as high schools rather than secondary schools. I suspect it's probably easier to compromise so that the categories can be understood by editors worldwide and we don't end up with separate categories developing for high schools and secondary schools as at present which depend on the preferred terminology used by the editor at that time. I understand too that in Israel secondary school is an archaic term and that high school would be the normal term used. In the UK we would use the term secondary school, and it would be quite inappropriate to classify such schools as high schools. I associate high school (perhaps mistakenly) purely with American schools. I think it would be very difficult to categorise schools by type internationally simply because there are so many different types of secondary school, many of which are exclusive to one specific country. UK schools are already categorised into grammar schools, comprehensive schools, specialist schools, city academies, private schools, etc (but note no high schools, though we do have a few middle schools and we have primary schools whereas the US has elementary schools). However, I don't think that any of the UK school types are used elsewhere in the world. Our grammar schools are roughly equivalent to the gymnasiums in many European countries (ie, schools catering for the academic high-flyers). I believe our comprehensive schools are roughly equivalent to US high schools (ie schools catering for the full ability range) but none of the schools are exactly equivalent. It's probably best to stick with the existing categorisation by country. The secondary school/high school categories seem to be the only ones which have been adopted on an international level as far as I can establish. Dahliarose 23:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi User:Mmondegreen, I by mistake edited your latest (of many) comments on WP:IAR. Sorry. (I also removed DBAD from the project page). I am new to wiki, so beyond apology, if I should do some action, please let me know. No offense was meant, I thought it was the articlepage, not the talkpage, or I wouldn't have done it. — Newbyguesses 08:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
A lot of controversy is starting to appear over this guideline - many people don't like the idea that every school needs location disambiguation among other things. As you were the main driving force behind this guideline I would like your help in addressing these growing concerns at Wikipedia Talk:Naming conventions (schools). Thanks! Camaron1 | Chris 09:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Can't believe I fell for that one :) [1] nice! >Radiant< 12:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
You have been blocked for one nanosecond for your tendentious edit warring over Wikipedia:Ignore this page!!! Please ignore this block, and I don't care if you do it again. >Radiant< 08:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Done (Canada at least) and Done. After reading some of the Canada guidelines I thing they deal mostly with Country-specific issues so I Added some language to the effect of "Comply with WP:NC(S), then follow this" if you think it needs more I can make a more substantial change Adam McCormick 18:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your efforts to have a logical discussion on the topic of external links. In the meantime, I have some interesting news that I think is relevant. I'm not sure how to address this. Perhaps you can offer a suggestion. It would appear that Baseball Bugs is in fact an editor by the name of Wahkeenah. This is evident by this edit. I seem to remember this person having a similar attitude toward me in the past. I don't recall the specific dispute nor the circumstances surrounding it. However, it is obvious to me that Baseball Bugs (and perhaps a few of the others), are in fact either socks or just pissed off users who are upset at me editing in the style that I do. I would love to dig up specifics, but Wahkeenah's edit list is so massive it's hard to figure out where the dispute was. Thoughts? // Tecmobowl 07:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
One user had implied (the way I read it) that Tecmobowl's Blacksoxfan site posting in fact was a site run by Tecmobowl. I wonder if he would care to address that question? Baseball Bugs 06:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It looks like Tecmobowl was once called User:Wolverinegod, although his request for change to new ID was more sedate. Either way, I don't recall any specific dealings with either user ID prior to the Black Sox page, although it looks like we edited some common articles. Baseball Bugs 06:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Enough is enough. In case you haven't noticed Baseball Bugs, I have asked you again and again and again to focus on content, not personal attacks. You seem completely unable to. I was hoping that if I and others simply ignored your focus on this and talked about the issues at hand, as we have successfully been doing on the talk pages, you would quit. You haven't. The personal attacks and completely focus on your issues with other people, especially with Tecmo is out of control--you're spamming my talk page, and you've been so focused on name calling and accusations and defending yourself against things you've yet to be accused of that I don't even know what you're issues with the content are becuase you haven't commented on them.
There's only one person running roughshod over people and it's you Basebull Bugs. Tecmo and I have had a few disagreements, mainly over misunderstanding coming from discussing things on so many pages (something incited by other editors), but he's been very polite and constantly goes back to the talk page to discuss what went wrong or what was misunderstood or what needs to happen next. You have spammed my talk page, you have personally attacked other editors, and you now accused Tecmo on my behalf. If there was anywhere in this whole process where you thought I lacked a voice, you thought wrong.
About the site--if you have issues with it, this is not the place. The talk page of the article is the place, that's where I and everyone else has commented. Whether or not Tecmo has a COI, and I don't see that he does, there are really clear guidelines for ELs. Four or five different points apply here and it's very simple to go through each one and ask what it says about the EL. Leave your issues aside.
I want both of you to leave your various username issues aside. I did a quick look at contributions and while you edited on the same articles often, and I can't really buy Baseball Bugs story that he doesn't remember you at all from his previous name, I didn't see the evidence of clashes that I'm seeing now. Granted, a lot of it is taking place on other pages, but it's also taking place on your own talk pages. I don't have the time to do a full investigation. Obviously Baseball Bugs can't show diffs of your not interacting, so I expect nothing more on that front. Tecmo, if you do want to dig up diffs that you think show something, feel free to. Otherwise, MOVE ON.
Baseball Bugs--this type of behavoir is simply unacceptable. Maybe you need another wikibreak, maybe you should break from certain articles--I don't know. But this type of behavoir is going to get you into trouble. Continued personal attacks are not ok, and it's so intense and so clouding that I have no idea where you stand on any content issues. Get back to editing and working on talk pages and leave all this behind. Miss Mondegreen talk 21:37, June 7 2007 (UTC)
Hello, you seemed like a big contributer to the Bushism page (your name is all over the talk page) and I was wondering if you would mind responding to some of the things I posted on the talk page regarding some of the "other examples." I removed some, and my edits were reverted, and I figured if I could convince you, or you convince me, things would be fixed much faster. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by P337 ( talk • contribs) 13:35, 3 June 2007
I'm shocked that you are not an admin, is this something you are interested in? I would like to start the process if so. And before other users jump on me, please remember - THIS IS THE GUY THAT REMOVED A LINK I POSTED. :-) Be well. // Tecmobowl 20:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
"no false forks please" what does that mean? ( MrsMacMan 14:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC))
Best word ever! :-)
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I have started a discussion here regarding the current situation. I hope you do not feel dragged into this, I intend to see this through until the end. // Tecmobowl 02:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to continue related discussion here due to your talk page blanking. I'm talking to Epeefleche about the other edits you've been making to ELs, and I know you already said that you were staying away from FG removals, but I'm going to ask you to not remove any of the statistics sites being discussed until that comes to a conclusion. This will also help seperate the general cleaning of ELs from the statistics site issue. This may mean having to carefully look when reverting and partially revert to avoid removing those. It would also be a nice show of good faith to revert yourself on some of the more recent ones you did (like a partial revert on Hank Greenburg, and other ones post unblocking).
One of the things you need to recognize is that there have been behavior issues with a lot of editors here, but because yours has been the most noted, your behavior really needs to be good. Try and avoid angry edit summaries, losing your temper, and try and explain your position simply, carefully and without going after people, or what they did--even in a non-obvious way. Remember that consensus, not being right, rules Wikipedia, and if you piss too many people off, consensus will focus more on you, then the content at stake, or ignore your opinions on the content at stake. Miss Mondegreen talk 13:28, June 15 2007 (UTC)
So here are some questions that I have used when evaluating all of these stats sites against WP:EL. These are an attempt to adhere to the guidelines and not just randomly invented questions. I wanted simple yes/maybe/no questions that would allow me to form "content" related answers to "Should this site be included?" I have then put my own answers to the questions
Interpretations & Conclusions - Fangraphs does have a decent amount of unique information. However, the information that is unique is fairly complex and does not substantially benefit the average reader. While some fans of baseball might find the information useful, fangraphs does not seem to improve upon what is generally accepted.
The other suggestion is that the data is presented in a unique way. While that is a "neat" feature, I do not believe that alone takes precedent over the fact that much of the information is unusable to the community at large. The "effectiveness" of him as a leadoff hitter is highly subjective and using a graphical representation of the information instead of a chart of the information does not justify the inclusion of the link in the EL section. However, it does mean that the cite could (and should) be used to explain Jose Reyes improvement in the on-base-% category. As an editor pointed out here, "I think it's the information which we deal with here. Painting the information on the side of kittens does not improve it sufficiently to require a link to the same information in a different format. Charts and graphs are sometimes more useful than numbers, but does that site's presentation bring any new insights? Maybe one should wait for some reviewers to comment on how great the pie charts are, and then there will be sources which indicate that it's a useful site." This would lend itself to say that the site fits perfectly in the context of a source to be cited in specific examples, but not as a widespread "standard" in the EL section. // User:Tecmobowl 14:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I have made the decision to take the MedCab case Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-06-15 Shoeless Joe Jackson. I hope I will be of some help in this case. I will try to all of you guys communicating in a civil manner and will assist you in finding a compromise. Have a nice week and God bless.-- †Sir James Paul† 10:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I hope you understand that my attitude i expressed on the Shoeless Joe Jackson talk page is a general frustration with the situation and not with you. I feel like almost all the parties involved have a general understanding of the situation and that we are running around in circles because of some disruption. It seems pretty clear that others see the value of the blacksoxfan site regardless of which page is actually linked to and that's what started this whole debate. Again, do not take it personal, it is merely just my frustration with the situation. // Tecmobowl 12:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I would just like to thank you for staying civil in the Shoeless Joe Jackson dispute up to this point. You have not said a single thing that could be taken the wrong way, and have focused on the links, not the editors. I would like to encourage you to keep on acting the way you have so far. Again, thanks.-- †Sir James Paul† 09:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I wanted you to be aware of this. As you were a person who questioned his behavior towards me, I think I am required to notify you of this. Would you confirm that you were the other person to question his behavior? // Tecmobowl 13:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
You need to know, if you don't already, that (1) a more thorough checkuser proved that Tecmobowl used El redactor to try to evade a block; that following that exposure, (2) he achieved new low levels of incivility, throwing the F-bomb at me and various admins; that (3) he began furiously deleting links from articles, in defiance of all discussion on the topic; that (4) he has been blocked for a week due to that activity; and that (5) the inevitable has arrived, a request to have him blocked permanently. You were the one user that appeared to sympathize with him. The thing is, though, Tecmo has not yet learned that it's not just about content. It's also about working together. And his own words and deeds indicate that, bottom line, he couldn't care less what anyone else thinks here. Baseball Bugs 11:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey, ive noticed your great work on the article, and just thought id spread something i have discovered, and affects the article. Look at the references in the article, there are 3 sometimes 4 citation marks right next to eachother, and this looks messy. You may wish to change this, by formatting them differently, look at reference #12 on Aquinas College, Perth; instead of having 3 reference tags, i have incorporated them all into one using bullet points (click edit the article to see exactly how its been done). This makes one citation mark, yet it still shows the same citations and looks alot neater. This is commonly used on Featured Articles now, and is something i just thought you may wish to know about. If you want, id be happy to do it (providing the refs are in cite format =P). Cheers. Twenty Years 14:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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The Marlins link automatically brings up the correct stats page, including all the Dodgers colors and insignia, so it's not a big deal either way, but I have corrected the link to refer to MLB rather than the Marlins. Jpers36 14:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hello, as you might have noticed I have brought up a new proposal for a guideline on school naming conventions. However, there has been very little input for it to go anywhere. I remember you were involved in the last proposal, so I would appreciate your input once again at WT:NC(S) if possible. Thanks. Camaron1 | Chris 11:32, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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He is in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Kingman but not in the notable alumni.
Is there any way to have him added? I am not very computer efficient so I don't know that I would be able to follow the Wikipedia format.
If you could have him added it would make the class of '71 proud, especially coach Sedia and the 1970 & 71 Warrior baseball team.
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Sorry, I missed your earlier post a few days ago. The intent, at least, was that if someone is having a cow, a dose of funny can defuse the situation. YMMV ("Your Mileage May Vary") in that not everyone finds the same things funny. So no insult was intended, and my apologies if it seemed like one. I am aware of instances of admin abuse (e.g. protecting a page in their preferred version) but that does not appear to be the case here.
I realize it's annoying if people use funky abbreviations to explain things; however, the reason people tend to do this is generally because we see a lot of situations that are similar to issues we've seen and discussed before - so people use shorter explanations and/or abbrevs because they (sometimes rightly, sometimes wrongly) believe other people are also pretty much familiar with the kind of situation. Linking such terms gives at least some explanation of what is meant, but it may be incomplete. This may explain why such wikijargon is a bannable offense on Citizendium (although I doubt that approach is all that helpful).
The issue of admins "vs." regular editors is a rather complex situation. Power does come into it, but a part of that is in assumptions of non-admins, that may prove to be incorrect. The perception is that admins have more respect, and are more likely to be correct, than non-admins. However, this is a false causality: it is not that people gain more respect caused by becoming admins, it is that already-respected people have a tendency to become admins as a result.
In general I believe the term "admin" is badly chosen, in that it implies more power than is intended. For instance, I've seen people who believe that they're not allowed to disagree with an admin, an approach which most admins would find rather silly. Suppose that a non-admin would have "denied" the edit request and moved on, would that make the situation different? The "stepping-on-toes" issue is not nearly such a big deal: admins disagree with one another all the time, and undo each other's actions all the time. And there are clear and generally working channels to deal with actual problem admins; the main reason why these seem at times not to work is because most requests on these channels are frivolous.
I guess I should stop ranting now. I hope this clears some stuff up, and feel free to disagree or ask questions or whatnot. Happy editing! >Radiant< 11:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
Find another source other than the student newspaper, and I have no problem with the material being included. As it stands, it's negative and critical, and that needs to be carefully sourced. A student newspaper does NOT cut it for that. ⇒ SWATJester Denny Crane. 20:36, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
It was originally a joke my friends and I had on someone's badly drawn Street Fighter fan manga. The only okay character was Charlie, so we started calling him "Well Drawn Charlie"...then they started calling me Well Drawn Charlie, and it stuck! Oh, and I always stay in the lines. Well Drawn Charli e 20:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate that you want the widest possible input on the Uni High dispute, but we discourage editors from engaging in internal spam. See WP:SPAM. It isn't good form to post a request in every possible place. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 02:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Many thanks for commenting on the school categories. I'm replying here rather than on the categories page as it would appear that there is already a consensus for a merge and the battle has been lost. To me it makes much more sense to have a category entitled secondary schools. However, it would appear that the majority of American editors prefer the term high school and this is perhaps the reason why so many school categories have been mistakenly categorised as high schools rather than secondary schools. I suspect it's probably easier to compromise so that the categories can be understood by editors worldwide and we don't end up with separate categories developing for high schools and secondary schools as at present which depend on the preferred terminology used by the editor at that time. I understand too that in Israel secondary school is an archaic term and that high school would be the normal term used. In the UK we would use the term secondary school, and it would be quite inappropriate to classify such schools as high schools. I associate high school (perhaps mistakenly) purely with American schools. I think it would be very difficult to categorise schools by type internationally simply because there are so many different types of secondary school, many of which are exclusive to one specific country. UK schools are already categorised into grammar schools, comprehensive schools, specialist schools, city academies, private schools, etc (but note no high schools, though we do have a few middle schools and we have primary schools whereas the US has elementary schools). However, I don't think that any of the UK school types are used elsewhere in the world. Our grammar schools are roughly equivalent to the gymnasiums in many European countries (ie, schools catering for the academic high-flyers). I believe our comprehensive schools are roughly equivalent to US high schools (ie schools catering for the full ability range) but none of the schools are exactly equivalent. It's probably best to stick with the existing categorisation by country. The secondary school/high school categories seem to be the only ones which have been adopted on an international level as far as I can establish. Dahliarose 23:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi User:Mmondegreen, I by mistake edited your latest (of many) comments on WP:IAR. Sorry. (I also removed DBAD from the project page). I am new to wiki, so beyond apology, if I should do some action, please let me know. No offense was meant, I thought it was the articlepage, not the talkpage, or I wouldn't have done it. — Newbyguesses 08:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
A lot of controversy is starting to appear over this guideline - many people don't like the idea that every school needs location disambiguation among other things. As you were the main driving force behind this guideline I would like your help in addressing these growing concerns at Wikipedia Talk:Naming conventions (schools). Thanks! Camaron1 | Chris 09:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Can't believe I fell for that one :) [1] nice! >Radiant< 12:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
You have been blocked for one nanosecond for your tendentious edit warring over Wikipedia:Ignore this page!!! Please ignore this block, and I don't care if you do it again. >Radiant< 08:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
Done (Canada at least) and Done. After reading some of the Canada guidelines I thing they deal mostly with Country-specific issues so I Added some language to the effect of "Comply with WP:NC(S), then follow this" if you think it needs more I can make a more substantial change Adam McCormick 18:33, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
I appreciate your efforts to have a logical discussion on the topic of external links. In the meantime, I have some interesting news that I think is relevant. I'm not sure how to address this. Perhaps you can offer a suggestion. It would appear that Baseball Bugs is in fact an editor by the name of Wahkeenah. This is evident by this edit. I seem to remember this person having a similar attitude toward me in the past. I don't recall the specific dispute nor the circumstances surrounding it. However, it is obvious to me that Baseball Bugs (and perhaps a few of the others), are in fact either socks or just pissed off users who are upset at me editing in the style that I do. I would love to dig up specifics, but Wahkeenah's edit list is so massive it's hard to figure out where the dispute was. Thoughts? // Tecmobowl 07:29, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
One user had implied (the way I read it) that Tecmobowl's Blacksoxfan site posting in fact was a site run by Tecmobowl. I wonder if he would care to address that question? Baseball Bugs 06:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
It looks like Tecmobowl was once called User:Wolverinegod, although his request for change to new ID was more sedate. Either way, I don't recall any specific dealings with either user ID prior to the Black Sox page, although it looks like we edited some common articles. Baseball Bugs 06:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Enough is enough. In case you haven't noticed Baseball Bugs, I have asked you again and again and again to focus on content, not personal attacks. You seem completely unable to. I was hoping that if I and others simply ignored your focus on this and talked about the issues at hand, as we have successfully been doing on the talk pages, you would quit. You haven't. The personal attacks and completely focus on your issues with other people, especially with Tecmo is out of control--you're spamming my talk page, and you've been so focused on name calling and accusations and defending yourself against things you've yet to be accused of that I don't even know what you're issues with the content are becuase you haven't commented on them.
There's only one person running roughshod over people and it's you Basebull Bugs. Tecmo and I have had a few disagreements, mainly over misunderstanding coming from discussing things on so many pages (something incited by other editors), but he's been very polite and constantly goes back to the talk page to discuss what went wrong or what was misunderstood or what needs to happen next. You have spammed my talk page, you have personally attacked other editors, and you now accused Tecmo on my behalf. If there was anywhere in this whole process where you thought I lacked a voice, you thought wrong.
About the site--if you have issues with it, this is not the place. The talk page of the article is the place, that's where I and everyone else has commented. Whether or not Tecmo has a COI, and I don't see that he does, there are really clear guidelines for ELs. Four or five different points apply here and it's very simple to go through each one and ask what it says about the EL. Leave your issues aside.
I want both of you to leave your various username issues aside. I did a quick look at contributions and while you edited on the same articles often, and I can't really buy Baseball Bugs story that he doesn't remember you at all from his previous name, I didn't see the evidence of clashes that I'm seeing now. Granted, a lot of it is taking place on other pages, but it's also taking place on your own talk pages. I don't have the time to do a full investigation. Obviously Baseball Bugs can't show diffs of your not interacting, so I expect nothing more on that front. Tecmo, if you do want to dig up diffs that you think show something, feel free to. Otherwise, MOVE ON.
Baseball Bugs--this type of behavoir is simply unacceptable. Maybe you need another wikibreak, maybe you should break from certain articles--I don't know. But this type of behavoir is going to get you into trouble. Continued personal attacks are not ok, and it's so intense and so clouding that I have no idea where you stand on any content issues. Get back to editing and working on talk pages and leave all this behind. Miss Mondegreen talk 21:37, June 7 2007 (UTC)
Hello, you seemed like a big contributer to the Bushism page (your name is all over the talk page) and I was wondering if you would mind responding to some of the things I posted on the talk page regarding some of the "other examples." I removed some, and my edits were reverted, and I figured if I could convince you, or you convince me, things would be fixed much faster. thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by P337 ( talk • contribs) 13:35, 3 June 2007
I'm shocked that you are not an admin, is this something you are interested in? I would like to start the process if so. And before other users jump on me, please remember - THIS IS THE GUY THAT REMOVED A LINK I POSTED. :-) Be well. // Tecmobowl 20:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
"no false forks please" what does that mean? ( MrsMacMan 14:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC))
Best word ever! :-)
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I have started a discussion here regarding the current situation. I hope you do not feel dragged into this, I intend to see this through until the end. // Tecmobowl 02:17, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to continue related discussion here due to your talk page blanking. I'm talking to Epeefleche about the other edits you've been making to ELs, and I know you already said that you were staying away from FG removals, but I'm going to ask you to not remove any of the statistics sites being discussed until that comes to a conclusion. This will also help seperate the general cleaning of ELs from the statistics site issue. This may mean having to carefully look when reverting and partially revert to avoid removing those. It would also be a nice show of good faith to revert yourself on some of the more recent ones you did (like a partial revert on Hank Greenburg, and other ones post unblocking).
One of the things you need to recognize is that there have been behavior issues with a lot of editors here, but because yours has been the most noted, your behavior really needs to be good. Try and avoid angry edit summaries, losing your temper, and try and explain your position simply, carefully and without going after people, or what they did--even in a non-obvious way. Remember that consensus, not being right, rules Wikipedia, and if you piss too many people off, consensus will focus more on you, then the content at stake, or ignore your opinions on the content at stake. Miss Mondegreen talk 13:28, June 15 2007 (UTC)
So here are some questions that I have used when evaluating all of these stats sites against WP:EL. These are an attempt to adhere to the guidelines and not just randomly invented questions. I wanted simple yes/maybe/no questions that would allow me to form "content" related answers to "Should this site be included?" I have then put my own answers to the questions
Interpretations & Conclusions - Fangraphs does have a decent amount of unique information. However, the information that is unique is fairly complex and does not substantially benefit the average reader. While some fans of baseball might find the information useful, fangraphs does not seem to improve upon what is generally accepted.
The other suggestion is that the data is presented in a unique way. While that is a "neat" feature, I do not believe that alone takes precedent over the fact that much of the information is unusable to the community at large. The "effectiveness" of him as a leadoff hitter is highly subjective and using a graphical representation of the information instead of a chart of the information does not justify the inclusion of the link in the EL section. However, it does mean that the cite could (and should) be used to explain Jose Reyes improvement in the on-base-% category. As an editor pointed out here, "I think it's the information which we deal with here. Painting the information on the side of kittens does not improve it sufficiently to require a link to the same information in a different format. Charts and graphs are sometimes more useful than numbers, but does that site's presentation bring any new insights? Maybe one should wait for some reviewers to comment on how great the pie charts are, and then there will be sources which indicate that it's a useful site." This would lend itself to say that the site fits perfectly in the context of a source to be cited in specific examples, but not as a widespread "standard" in the EL section. // User:Tecmobowl 14:46, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
I have made the decision to take the MedCab case Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-06-15 Shoeless Joe Jackson. I hope I will be of some help in this case. I will try to all of you guys communicating in a civil manner and will assist you in finding a compromise. Have a nice week and God bless.-- †Sir James Paul† 10:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
I hope you understand that my attitude i expressed on the Shoeless Joe Jackson talk page is a general frustration with the situation and not with you. I feel like almost all the parties involved have a general understanding of the situation and that we are running around in circles because of some disruption. It seems pretty clear that others see the value of the blacksoxfan site regardless of which page is actually linked to and that's what started this whole debate. Again, do not take it personal, it is merely just my frustration with the situation. // Tecmobowl 12:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
I would just like to thank you for staying civil in the Shoeless Joe Jackson dispute up to this point. You have not said a single thing that could be taken the wrong way, and have focused on the links, not the editors. I would like to encourage you to keep on acting the way you have so far. Again, thanks.-- †Sir James Paul† 09:03, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
I wanted you to be aware of this. As you were a person who questioned his behavior towards me, I think I am required to notify you of this. Would you confirm that you were the other person to question his behavior? // Tecmobowl 13:45, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
You need to know, if you don't already, that (1) a more thorough checkuser proved that Tecmobowl used El redactor to try to evade a block; that following that exposure, (2) he achieved new low levels of incivility, throwing the F-bomb at me and various admins; that (3) he began furiously deleting links from articles, in defiance of all discussion on the topic; that (4) he has been blocked for a week due to that activity; and that (5) the inevitable has arrived, a request to have him blocked permanently. You were the one user that appeared to sympathize with him. The thing is, though, Tecmo has not yet learned that it's not just about content. It's also about working together. And his own words and deeds indicate that, bottom line, he couldn't care less what anyone else thinks here. Baseball Bugs 11:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
Hey, ive noticed your great work on the article, and just thought id spread something i have discovered, and affects the article. Look at the references in the article, there are 3 sometimes 4 citation marks right next to eachother, and this looks messy. You may wish to change this, by formatting them differently, look at reference #12 on Aquinas College, Perth; instead of having 3 reference tags, i have incorporated them all into one using bullet points (click edit the article to see exactly how its been done). This makes one citation mark, yet it still shows the same citations and looks alot neater. This is commonly used on Featured Articles now, and is something i just thought you may wish to know about. If you want, id be happy to do it (providing the refs are in cite format =P). Cheers. Twenty Years 14:49, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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The Marlins link automatically brings up the correct stats page, including all the Dodgers colors and insignia, so it's not a big deal either way, but I have corrected the link to refer to MLB rather than the Marlins. Jpers36 14:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hello, as you might have noticed I have brought up a new proposal for a guideline on school naming conventions. However, there has been very little input for it to go anywhere. I remember you were involved in the last proposal, so I would appreciate your input once again at WT:NC(S) if possible. Thanks. Camaron1 | Chris 11:32, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
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A Flickr user named Marc Tony Smith agreed to relicense his picture (to Commons ShareAlike from Commons NonCommercial ShareAlike) so Wikipedia could use it - Now we have a photo for University High School! :) WhisperToMe ( talk) 14:39, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
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Hi - I was looking at the Wikipedia article for my high school (University High School in Los Angeles). Under notable alumni I saw Steve Smith who plays professional football and Kevin Millar who played Major League Baseball but missing was my teammate from 1971, Brian Kingman who played Major League Baseball for the Oakland A's.
He is in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Kingman but not in the notable alumni.
Is there any way to have him added? I am not very computer efficient so I don't know that I would be able to follow the Wikipedia format.
If you could have him added it would make the class of '71 proud, especially coach Sedia and the 1970 & 71 Warrior baseball team.
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