Hello and welcome to the user talk page for Metaeducation. If you would like to respond to a comment I have left for you, then please—leave the discussion where it is and don't fragment it for my sake! Just put a note giving me a heads up that you have added to the conversation, and provide a link if you are able.
I'd love it if before commenting you could take a moment (an hour?) to read my user page. It contains some amount of information about my editorial opinions, so if we just have a fundamental philosophical difference we can go straight to that instead of re-deriving it via discussion. I will frequently provide links instead of retyping lamer versions of arguments I've already made, and this is never intended to slight you. Just a device to save time, and maybe even enlist you to help upgrade my writing so it has more value.
Please notice that I have a very aggressive stance on "refactoring", and I hope that any discussion we have can be refined and migrated to more appropriate destinations, such as:
In any event, the talk page is always a scratchpad, feel free to add whatever you like here! Thanks!
I picked your name off the Normalization discussion group because I saw you took an interest in the topic and seemed to have been around a while. I will be proud to contribute to this work because I am very impressed with you and others who have already contributed so much. I do want you to think of normalization as only secondarily a reduction in redundancy. Primarily normalization is properly associating the measurement with the thing measured....
I placed: EF Codd proposed the process of normalization in general and 1st normal form in particular in his extremely influential paper A Relational Model of Data for Large Shared Data Banks Communications of the ACM, Vol. 13, No. 6, June 1970, pp. 377-387. Copyright © 1970, Association for Computing Machinery, Inc [1]
To put that paper into context, the first commercial computers were put into place in about 1952. COBOL was proposed in 1959 and first standardized in 1968. Codd is published in 1970. Codd's work is followed and perhaps eclipsed in 1981 by “Information Engineering”, James Martin and Clive Finkelstein, Savant Institute.
From Codd's paper…, "There is, in fact, a very simple elimination procedure which we shall call normalization." [His term eliminate is misleading, nothing is lost in normalization. Through decomposition nonsimple domains are replaced by "domains whose elements are atomic (nondecomposable) values." He uses the example of a person's "jobhistory" is replaced by lists of simpler elements such as "employer" and "title"],
That short selection emphasizes:
The concept of normalization is an essential milestone in the development of modern database design theory. Though Codd writes about data as strictly an input and output of data processing, you can find in his footnotes that he was beginning to think about problems as we do today. He writes, "Naturally, as with any data put into and retrieved from a computer system, the user will normally make far more effective use of the data if he is aware of its meaning."
Codd stated:
In his paper, Codd consciously coined the term normalization and emphasized on solving a the problem of what he called "nonsimple" domains. The latter did not stick, and is currently referred to as abstract data type. Codd wrote about data as strictly an input and output of data processing, however, in some of his footnotes, he wrote, "Naturally, as with any data put into and retrieved from a computer system, the user will normally make far more effective use of the data if he is aware of its meaning."
I read your interest in keeping the discussion on point so I ask you in particular, do you feel that my pp 2 was too much. (My point is to show that Codd's work is a part of a rolling conversation and not an immutable law.)
The other changes are permutations of the kinds of changes I am asking about above... except I wonder about the etiquette of stylistic changes. If the change is not based on an objective standard such as spelling ... then doesn't this process create a lot of disaffection?
Hope to hear from you... Bschmidt 03:46, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
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Thanks for your contribution. Now the lead is better. Vb 09:58, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
see updated comments on R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) talk page as of 17:56, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I have heard of Fabian Pascal: he's a disciple of Chris Date and Hugh Darwen. I once requested an exam copy of his book, Practical Issues in Database Management, which I had expected to be quite good, but it got lost somehow (I got paperwork but no book). Now, though, he has plummeted in my esteem: I hold in contempt anyone who engages in ad hominem attacks rather than reasoned argument.
Thanks again, EmmetCaulfield 18:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. There's an ongoing thread at foundation-l about the Wikipedia logo problems. I've just replied to someone who was asking about what is on "the other side" of the globe, with the only info I know, which is your 3d model! (as linked from Wikipedia:Wikimedia logos)
I was wondering if there were any more details or finished pieces that came out of that project? Definitely an intriguing start :) -- Quiddity 08:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, do you still need textures for the Wikipedia logo? I don't have the exact same font, but I can provide an SVG file for Korean "위" if you want. -- Kjoon lee 15:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi User:Metaeducation; I'm working on this too, in POV-Ray. :-) I have some research on characters at m:Talk:Errors in the Wikipedia logo if that's any help to you. -- tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 14:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
There is currently a thread on the foundation mailing list, discussing both a 3d version of the globe with the hidden pieces filled in, as well as the problems seen in the current logo. Just a heads up. Looks like it might have more momentum this time around :) -- Quiddity ( talk) 18:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi. I don't get the logic nor the rational for change of an initial redirect of dynamic ip address to Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol being changed to ip address... If someone was looking for IP Address by itself wouldn't they take the lesser and simpler steps of simply writing ip address? Instead dynamic ip address is now redirected to IP Address. Why would someone take the extra step to add an extra word to end up at a place that they specifically didn't want to be, is the nature of my question? I typed in dynamic ip address - using Wikipedia because I was trying to utilize Wikipedia as a timesaver - and instead had to read the portion of the article to recall the terminology and it defeated the entire point of using Wikipedia as a time saver... Now that I am off-topic of my original quest (having spent the last 10-15 minutes retracing what happened & why) I am now petitioning you for an explanation of your logic, in addition to a petition of cooperative spirit to change it back to Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol... Regards, Steve Stevenmitchell ( talk) 16:38, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
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In: User:Metaeducation#My_Paranormal_Leanings / second paragraph / last sentence you write:
Like psychiatry, they force limited viewpoints on their victims, and charge them huge amounts of money for assistance that is largely ineffective.
Whom do you mean with "they": The Church of Scientology, or CCHR or ...?
In which way do they force their viewpoints on their victims?
Whom do you consider "victims"?
What is your source for "assistance that is largely ineffective"?
Did you try it yourself?
I would suggest and apppreciate, if you would squeeze in your answers right below the appropriate question.
Please ping me. Steue ( talk) 08:40, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
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Hello and welcome to the user talk page for Metaeducation. If you would like to respond to a comment I have left for you, then please—leave the discussion where it is and don't fragment it for my sake! Just put a note giving me a heads up that you have added to the conversation, and provide a link if you are able.
I'd love it if before commenting you could take a moment (an hour?) to read my user page. It contains some amount of information about my editorial opinions, so if we just have a fundamental philosophical difference we can go straight to that instead of re-deriving it via discussion. I will frequently provide links instead of retyping lamer versions of arguments I've already made, and this is never intended to slight you. Just a device to save time, and maybe even enlist you to help upgrade my writing so it has more value.
Please notice that I have a very aggressive stance on "refactoring", and I hope that any discussion we have can be refined and migrated to more appropriate destinations, such as:
In any event, the talk page is always a scratchpad, feel free to add whatever you like here! Thanks!
I picked your name off the Normalization discussion group because I saw you took an interest in the topic and seemed to have been around a while. I will be proud to contribute to this work because I am very impressed with you and others who have already contributed so much. I do want you to think of normalization as only secondarily a reduction in redundancy. Primarily normalization is properly associating the measurement with the thing measured....
I placed: EF Codd proposed the process of normalization in general and 1st normal form in particular in his extremely influential paper A Relational Model of Data for Large Shared Data Banks Communications of the ACM, Vol. 13, No. 6, June 1970, pp. 377-387. Copyright © 1970, Association for Computing Machinery, Inc [1]
To put that paper into context, the first commercial computers were put into place in about 1952. COBOL was proposed in 1959 and first standardized in 1968. Codd is published in 1970. Codd's work is followed and perhaps eclipsed in 1981 by “Information Engineering”, James Martin and Clive Finkelstein, Savant Institute.
From Codd's paper…, "There is, in fact, a very simple elimination procedure which we shall call normalization." [His term eliminate is misleading, nothing is lost in normalization. Through decomposition nonsimple domains are replaced by "domains whose elements are atomic (nondecomposable) values." He uses the example of a person's "jobhistory" is replaced by lists of simpler elements such as "employer" and "title"],
That short selection emphasizes:
The concept of normalization is an essential milestone in the development of modern database design theory. Though Codd writes about data as strictly an input and output of data processing, you can find in his footnotes that he was beginning to think about problems as we do today. He writes, "Naturally, as with any data put into and retrieved from a computer system, the user will normally make far more effective use of the data if he is aware of its meaning."
Codd stated:
In his paper, Codd consciously coined the term normalization and emphasized on solving a the problem of what he called "nonsimple" domains. The latter did not stick, and is currently referred to as abstract data type. Codd wrote about data as strictly an input and output of data processing, however, in some of his footnotes, he wrote, "Naturally, as with any data put into and retrieved from a computer system, the user will normally make far more effective use of the data if he is aware of its meaning."
I read your interest in keeping the discussion on point so I ask you in particular, do you feel that my pp 2 was too much. (My point is to show that Codd's work is a part of a rolling conversation and not an immutable law.)
The other changes are permutations of the kinds of changes I am asking about above... except I wonder about the etiquette of stylistic changes. If the change is not based on an objective standard such as spelling ... then doesn't this process create a lot of disaffection?
Hope to hear from you... Bschmidt 03:46, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
It's official! The first-ever L.A. Wiki Meetup will be occuring on July 25th, 2005. Are you coming? Would you like to help host? More details on the Meetup page. Be sure to check back regularly for updates! - Eric 1 July 2005 03:49 (UTC)
Thanks for your contribution. Now the lead is better. Vb 09:58, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
see updated comments on R.D.H. (Ghost In The Machine) talk page as of 17:56, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the heads-up. I have heard of Fabian Pascal: he's a disciple of Chris Date and Hugh Darwen. I once requested an exam copy of his book, Practical Issues in Database Management, which I had expected to be quite good, but it got lost somehow (I got paperwork but no book). Now, though, he has plummeted in my esteem: I hold in contempt anyone who engages in ad hominem attacks rather than reasoned argument.
Thanks again, EmmetCaulfield 18:52, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. There's an ongoing thread at foundation-l about the Wikipedia logo problems. I've just replied to someone who was asking about what is on "the other side" of the globe, with the only info I know, which is your 3d model! (as linked from Wikipedia:Wikimedia logos)
I was wondering if there were any more details or finished pieces that came out of that project? Definitely an intriguing start :) -- Quiddity 08:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi, do you still need textures for the Wikipedia logo? I don't have the exact same font, but I can provide an SVG file for Korean "위" if you want. -- Kjoon lee 15:57, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi User:Metaeducation; I'm working on this too, in POV-Ray. :-) I have some research on characters at m:Talk:Errors in the Wikipedia logo if that's any help to you. -- tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 14:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
There is currently a thread on the foundation mailing list, discussing both a 3d version of the globe with the hidden pieces filled in, as well as the problems seen in the current logo. Just a heads up. Looks like it might have more momentum this time around :) -- Quiddity ( talk) 18:57, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
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Wik-Ed Women editing session (1/20, 6-10pm) | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at an event this coming Tuesday: the third Wik-Ed Women editing session will take place on January 20 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Please RSVP here if you plan to attend. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 23:06, 15 January 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
Redondo Loves Wikipedia (2/14), Wik-Ed Women (2/17), and Unforgetting LA at the Getty (2/21)! | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has three events in mid-February -- please consider attending! First, we have a Valentine's Day edit-a-thon appropriately named Redondo Loves Wikipedia, which will take place at the Redondo Beach Public Library from 10am to 1pm on Saturday, February 14. Join library staff, the Redondo Beach Historical Society, and others to help improve Wikipedia's coverage of Redondo Beach! Second, we have a Wik-Ed Women editing session on Tuesday, February 17 from 6pm to 10pm at the Los Angeles Contemporary Archive downtown. This series of informal get-togethers is designed to encourage Los Angeles women-in-the-arts (though all are welcome!) to contribute their expertise to Wikipedia, specifically expanding content about women artists. Third, we have an Unforgetting LA event put on by East of Borneo in collaboration with the Getty Research Institute. Come help improve Wikipedia's coverage of LA design and architecture, and have an awesome free day at the museum -- parking will be validated for edit-a-thon participants! If you'd like to use particular books from GRI's great collection, be sure to email before 2/13 (instructions at event page). And be sure to check out our main meetup page, because we already have three SoCal events scheduled for early March! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 18:58, 5 February 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
Wadewitz memorial edit-a-thon (3/18), Redondo Loves Wikipedia (3/28) | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, The LA Wikipedia community has two events in this second half of March -- please consider attending! First, there is a memorial edit-a-thon in honor of the prolific LA Wikipedian Adrianne Wadewitz, which is being held downtown on March 18 (tomorrow!) from noon to 8pm as a part of the American Society for Eighteenth-Century Studies' annual conference. Please drop by to contribute your own work or teach other users how to write for Wikipedia. Second, there will be an event at the Redondo Beach Public Library (following up on last month's session), in collaboration with the Redondo Beach Historical Society. Please join us from 10am to noon on Saturday, March 28 at the main branch of the Redondo Beach Public Library! I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:41, 17 March 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
5th Annual Wiknic (Saturday, July 11, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm) | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordinally invited to the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic! The Wiknic is a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is tentatively planned for Pan-Pacific Park ( map) and will be held on Saturday, July 11, 2014 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! Howcheng ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 19:41, 21 June 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
5th Annual Wiknic rescheduled to Saturday, July 25, 2015, ~9:30am-4pm | |
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Due to a conflict with the Redondo Loves Wikipedia edit-a-thon, the fifth annual Los Angeles Wiknic has been rescheduled. As before, the location will be at Pan-Pacific Park ( map) and will be held on Saturday, July 25, 2015 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! — howcheng { chat} - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 04:28, 7 July 2015 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
You are invited to join the Women in Architecture edit-a-thon @ Getty Center in LA on October 15! (drop-in any time, 10am-4pm)-- Pharos ( talk) 18:25, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
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Hi. I don't get the logic nor the rational for change of an initial redirect of dynamic ip address to Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol being changed to ip address... If someone was looking for IP Address by itself wouldn't they take the lesser and simpler steps of simply writing ip address? Instead dynamic ip address is now redirected to IP Address. Why would someone take the extra step to add an extra word to end up at a place that they specifically didn't want to be, is the nature of my question? I typed in dynamic ip address - using Wikipedia because I was trying to utilize Wikipedia as a timesaver - and instead had to read the portion of the article to recall the terminology and it defeated the entire point of using Wikipedia as a time saver... Now that I am off-topic of my original quest (having spent the last 10-15 minutes retracing what happened & why) I am now petitioning you for an explanation of your logic, in addition to a petition of cooperative spirit to change it back to Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol... Regards, Steve Stevenmitchell ( talk) 16:38, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
Wik-Ed Women Session #5 | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, I would like to personally invite you to the March edition of the Wik-Ed Women meetup, which will take place on March 15, from 6-10 in the evening. It will occur at Los Angeles Contemporary Archive, 2245 E Washington Blvd, Los Angeles, California 90021 (downtown LA -- map). The building has a pink top with old signage for American Accessories, Inc. dba Princess Accessories ( Photos [PDF]). There is on-site parking in the back, which also has an entrance. If you cannot attend in person, you are more than willing to work remotely, as we appreciate all help that you can provide. Finally, here is a link to the Facebook event, in case you want to invite friends, as we are always looking for new editors to help expand coverage of women on Wikipedia! I hope to see you there! Cosmicphantom ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 05:54, 15 March 2016 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
LA Wikipedia Day Celebration (February 18) | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, Please join us at our Wikipedia Day celebration at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles on Saturday, February 18, 2017 from 11 am to 5 pm! This event will feature lectures, panel discussions, lightning talks, open space discussions and collaboration, and--most importantly--cake! Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 16:35, 2 February 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
LA Meetup: 6th Wiknic, 7/15 @ Pan Pacific Park | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordially invited to the 6th Los Angeles Wiknic, a part of the nationwide Great American Wiknic. We'll be grilling, getting to know each other better, and building the L.A. Wikipedia community! The event is planned for Pan-Pacific Park and will be held on Saturday, July 15, 2017 from 9:30am to 4pm or so. Please RSVP and volunteer to bring food or drinks if possible! I hope to see you there! Howcheng ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 19:02, 26 May 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group here! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
LA Meetup: September 7 edit-a-thon near DTLA | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, You have been invited to a meetup and edit-a-thon at the LA84 Foundation in Jefferson Park (near DTLA) on Thursday, September 7, 2017 from 5:45 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.! This event aims to improve coverage of female Olympians and Paralympians (some of whom will be attending!). There will be a deejay and food/drinks, and kids are welcome. I hope to see you there! Calliopejen1 ( talk) - via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 14:10, 2 September 2017 (UTC) Join our Facebook group, follow our Twitter account, and like our Facebook page!! To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
Wikipedia Day LA 2018 | |
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Please join us from 10:00 am - 5:00 pm on Saturday, March 31st for Wikipedia Day LA 2018 at the Ace Hotel in downtown Los Angeles. There will be speakers, panel discussions, a presentation on Wikidata, flash sessions, and a discussion about the formation of an LA User Group. There could be dramatic readings of LA-related talk pages, and there will be truly excellent cake. Please RSVP on the event page if you're thinking of joining us. We hope to see you there! JSFarman ( talk) via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 03:19, 9 March 2018 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
LA County Civic Arts Datathon! | |
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Please join us for the LA County Arts Commission Civic Art Wikipedia Edit-a-thon. Beginners are welcome! We'll provide training for new editors. Bob Hope Patriotic Hall, 1816 S. Figueroa St., Los Angeles, CA 90015. To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
Sunday, September 30, 11:00-4:00 PM
Pan Pacific Park, 7600 Beverly Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90036
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Who: All Wikipedians & Wikimedians
What: Southern California Regional mini Unconference.
When: Sunday 3 March 2019, 2:00PM PST / 1400 until 4:10PM PST / 1610
Where: Philippe's at Chinatown, Los Angeles
Sponsor: San Diego Wikimedians User Group ( US-SAN )
Your host: RightCowLeftCoast ( talk · contribs)
Please add your username to our attendees list so we know how many will be attending, due to the limited size of the cafe.
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Wikipedia Day LA 2019 Consider the Source | |
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Please join the LA User Group, Wikimedians of Los Angeles, for an afternoon of panels, presentations and conversations on the subject of sources, and cake (locally sourced), in celebration of Wikipedia's 18th birthday. The Ace Hotel (DTLA) 929 S Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90015For more details or to sign up, see Wikipedia Day LA, or RSVP via Eventbrite. Everyone is welcome! We hope to see you there. MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 22:00, 18 February 2019 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
Art+Feminism 2019 Los Angeles Events! | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are invited to join Art+Feminism's annual worldwide Wikipedia edit-a-thon and help close Wikipedia's gender gap at one of these Los Angeles–area museums this March! RSVP/Details here.
These Los Angeles events are co-hosted by online magazine East of Borneo and include step-by-step Wikipedia instruction for beginners. Bring your laptop or tablet computer and any reference materials you'd like to work from or share. People of all gender expressions and identities are encouraged to attend. |
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UC Irvine edit-a-thon on May 17, 2019 | |
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Dear fellow Wikipedian, You are cordially invited to an edit-a-thon this Friday in Orange County, focused on gender equity. The event is a collaboration between UCI and Women in Red. 10:00 am – 4:00 pm PDT ( UTC-7) Langson Library, Room 228, at University of California, Irvine Points of contact:
For more details, including the registration link, please see the meetup page. Everyone is welcome! We hope to see you there. |
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Who: All members of the public
What: Southern California Wiknic & Bonfire.
When: Sunday 1 September 2019, 2:00PM PDT / 1400 until 10:00PM PDT / 2200
Where: La Jolla Shores
Sponsor: San Diego Wikimedians User Group ( US-SAN )
Your host: RightCowLeftCoast ( talk · contribs)
Please add your username to our attendees list so we know how many will be attending, and please add your intended potluck contribution to the list.
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In: User:Metaeducation#My_Paranormal_Leanings / second paragraph / last sentence you write:
Like psychiatry, they force limited viewpoints on their victims, and charge them huge amounts of money for assistance that is largely ineffective.
Whom do you mean with "they": The Church of Scientology, or CCHR or ...?
In which way do they force their viewpoints on their victims?
Whom do you consider "victims"?
What is your source for "assistance that is largely ineffective"?
Did you try it yourself?
I would suggest and apppreciate, if you would squeeze in your answers right below the appropriate question.
Please ping me. Steue ( talk) 08:40, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
Happy New Year from Wikimedians of Los Angeles!
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LA to FA 2022 | |
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Dear Metaeducation, You're invited to a zoom call, taking place on February 11, with the goal of improving the article on Los Angeles to Featured article status! I often find it daunting to approach the Big Subjects on my own—so if you, like me, want a time to sit down with fellow dedicated editors and tackle something important and complex, this is the zoom for you! I, unfortunately, have no way to transmit snacks over zoom; but I trust you to exercise good judgement and discretion in selecting snacks of your own. Hope to see you there—if you're interested, add your name here! theleekycauldron ( talk • contribs) ( they/she) 00:19, 10 January 2022 (UTC) To opt out of future mailings about LA meetups, please remove your name from this list. |
Edit-a-thon and Wikipedia Day Celebration | |
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Please join Wikimedians of Los Angeles on Saturday, February 17 from 12:00 to 4:00 pm for a Los Angeles and West Hollywood-themed edit-a-thon at the West Hollywood Library. (For the details and to sign up, see Wikipedia:Meetup/Los Angeles/February 2024.) We'll also be celebrating Wikipedia's 23rd birthday/Wikipedia Day. (There will be cake!) We hope to see you there! JSFarman via MediaWiki message delivery ( talk) 20:04, 1 February 2024 (UTC) |
The Return of the LA Wiknic | |
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Eat, drink, and bask in the glory of Los Angeles in early June at the 9th not-annual Wiknic! Saturday, June 8 from 11:30 to 2:30 pm |