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The addition to the diskkeeper article was directly copied from the article about Executive Software as it was known at that time, later named Diskkeeper software, now named Condusiv Technologies.
That information used to be in the diskkeeper article once upon a time. I had come looking for it to quote for a citation elsewhere, and when I didn't find it there, I went looking elsewhere, eventually finding it on the company page. It seems more appropriate to be on the page for the product it pertains to than buried away on the page about the company. If you could please restore it with proper citation that would be appreciated. I'm not a regular editor, I just make periodic corrections/additions, so I'm not sure if there is some easy way to copy the text with the citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.153.61.159 ( talk) 12:04, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps I wasn't clear. When I said I copied the text from the article on Executive Software aka Diskkeeper Corp aka Condusiv Technology, I was talking about the Wikipedia article. I do not know how it could be a copyright infringement, plagiarism, etc to transplant a paragraph from one wikipedia article to another. As I stated, this information makes more sense on the page about the software in question rather than the page about the company that wrote it. Also, to the best of my memory, this information used to be in the article about the diskkeeper software some time in the past. It is mind boggling that you managed to find some other site with that information (perhaps copied from wikipedia), yet failed to notice it came directly from another wikipedia article even though I stated it was from the article about the software company. I don't know how I could have made it any more clear except to link to the wikipedia page in question, /info/en/?search=Condusiv_Technologies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.153.61.159 ( talk) 20:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Quick followup: I looked at the page history and it appears the entire Controversy section was moved from the Diskeeper page to the Condusiv tech article in 2011. While some of that information is pertinent only to the company (the parts about wrongful firing, lawsuits, ties to Scientology, etc), the paragraph I *restored* pertains directly to the Diskeeper software (specifically the option to remove it from Windows 2000 due to issues of trust with the company that developed it and licensed it to Microsoft) and thus I believe it to be of value in this article.
Correction: The controversy section as it was in 2011 was copied to the article on the company, but there was was still a controversy section (then limited to the parts pertinent to the software) still in 2012. That section has been around for quite some time. Looking at early versions I can see essentially the same information was there at least as early as 2006. So for more than half a decade this information had been part of the Diskeeper article. It was periodically revised and additional citations were made. The page which you wrongly think I plagiarized (since you apparently didn't do jack for research) is almost certainly the actual copyright infringer as this content has a long edit history on wikipedia. WAlso, I don't need a lesson on how to add citations. I have done that plenty of times. What I was specfically saying about citation is I'm not aware of an easy way to preserve them when copying the text from one article to another. Perhaps it would have been easier vie restoring form a past version, but that too I see no easy way to do since there fotonote numbers havef changed over time and the individual references must be copied manual afaict. Please tell me there is some reasonable/sane way to edit wikipedia wherein the citation with references can be copied along with article text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.153.61.159 ( talk) 21:14, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I changed some details and left some notes about errors on caestus and other terminology related to ancient boxing gloves. Sphaerae (or Sphairai) were not spiked gloves, they were padded practice gloves. Oxeis Himantes, or 'sharp gloves', were a later edition from c. 4 B.C.E. onwards. They were the usual thongs but with a padded strip on the knuckles which were very effective at cutting the opponents face; hence sharp gloves. Moreover, the Boxer of Quirinal is not wearing caestus he is shown wearing the oxeis himantes.
Greek boxing gloves - Poliakoff (1987), p.70. Plato, Dialogue 342b.
Sphairai. See Poliakoff (1987), p. 91.
Caestus - Scanlon (1982-3), pp. 31-45. Lee (1997), pp. 161-78 has gone as far as to say that the caestus did not exist and was merely a misinterpretation by early scholars who viewed the Romans as violent. Kyle (2007), p. 124 says that Romans didn't make boxing violent, it was already violent with the Greeks.
Kyle, D. Sport and Spectacle in the Ancient World. London, 2007.
Lee, H. ‘Later Greek Boxing Glove and Roman Caestus: A Centennial Re-evaluation of Junther’s ‘Uber Antike Turngerathe’,’ Nikephoros, 10, 1997, 161-78.
Poliakoff, M. Combat Sports in the Ancient World: Competition, Violence and Culture, London, 1987.
Scanlon, T. ‘Greek Boxing Gloves: Terminology and Evolution’ Stadion, 8-9, 1982-3, 31-45. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.103.188.86 ( talk) 16:08, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't know why this user is continuously vandalizing in Vitamin K , I saw your warnings on his/her talk page and go through article history and user contributions and finally decided to report @ WP:AIV. I think user will be blocked soon. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 14:37, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi, sorry you thought the change I made was not constructive, I removed the reference to Tibbs because it is blatantly a lie. The album sleeve states that all tracks were written by the Enemy and I know this to be true. would appreciate it if you would reinstate my change please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.5.59 ( talk) 14:41, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Most kind, blushing now. Thank you for your patience and advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.5.59 ( talk) 14:57, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
You warned this user upto last warning. User didn't seem to get away from vandalism. Finally I have reported this user @ WP:AIV. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 16:31, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I recived a two! messages from you, and have no idea who you are, I am a new user who has information to share with people and i really would appreciate if you could stop reviwng my edits, i have an old dad, old mom already, to know what is right and wrong.
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Secretlove1 ( talk • contribs) 09:43, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't edit Wikipedia to make friends, so I won't be losing any sleep. Just please try and edit within said policies, and I'm sure you will be editing Wikipedia for many hours to come. And don't visit then, it's really chilly in Melbourne anyway! — MelbourneStar☆ talk 10:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
MSTAR, I cannot reference my own name as it appears no where on the internet. This is not 'vandalism'. Please consider repealing your offensive block to my own edit.
LJM. 2.25.34.126
This is abinoh2001. I received your message. I have been trying to straighten this situation our for some time. Someone created a redirect from Edison Community College's page (where I work) to Edison State College in Florida. I really need this redirect gone, so that I can establish a page for OUR school. I understand that at some point Edison State College in Florida may have been referred to as Edison Community College, but no longer. Please let me know how we can rectify this situation. Thanks! Abinoh2001 ( talk) 12:20, 14 April 2014 (UTC)abinoh2001
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Keep up the great work of keeping Wiki articles. Vandalism free. DBig Xray 08:20, 15 April 2014 (UTC) |
Thanks for the revert. Dear me. What has happened to the young people? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 13:42, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
sorry, just having a bit of fun, but the last thing I think is appropriate to say — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorox ( talk • contribs)
User:Zyma starting on these article an edit war. Please check these artciles. Thanks. Yagmurlukorfez ( talk) 18:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Uh, with due respect, I was still in the middle of finishing that AfD nomination. -- RaiderAspect ( talk) 10:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
I have the permission to copy from that website. How can i copy the matter on to my article? Knithin24 ( talk) 04:34, 18 April 2014 (UTC)Nithin Chandra
please explain what you found inappropriate about the correct spelling of the acronym ANZAC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.149.213 ( talk) 10:49, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi MelbourneStar, I'm sorry I made mistake. I wanted add this into wesbites about Green tea because I think it might be useful to show how many different benefits people can get from drinking green tea. Do you think it's a bad idea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almorell ( talk • contribs) 14:24, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I was surfing the net and I searched mongol empire and I found that there were more than 40 countries who had been tributary relationships with mongol empire. I am bit surprised to find that only Goryeo's title status of country is written as 'tributary relationships with mongol empire'. Except Goryeo, no other country's title is written as 'tributary relationships with mongol empire. Even there was more than 40 countries. Goryeo was born with independent country in 918 who was descendant of Goguryeo and it had a cruel war with mongol for long time and became tribute for a bit, I do not deny that. But Goryeo achieved independence after 1360 with there own, they kicked out yuan dynasty which was descendant of mongol empire. I ask for change in Goryeo's status. This status is kind of discrimination.
Thank you. ≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ichrio Nazuki ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page :) Kev (talk) 11:06, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the edit at Whole_body_vibration to take out the advertising link. We are rewriting the content to better explain this health and fitness discipline from a neutral point of view, taking care to explain the different types of vibration machines and their uses for fitness training and therapy. Di Heap ( talk) 19:38, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,they are really cheat at many peoples,just want more peoples know about their Debts,before they will make deposit.Because when i open Wiki page about Cake i start think that this is clean company,but actually not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beregxxx ( talk • contribs) 16:06, 2 May 2014 (UTC)
This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | ← | Archive 15 | Archive 16 | Archive 17 | Archive 18 | Archive 19 | Archive 20 |
The addition to the diskkeeper article was directly copied from the article about Executive Software as it was known at that time, later named Diskkeeper software, now named Condusiv Technologies.
That information used to be in the diskkeeper article once upon a time. I had come looking for it to quote for a citation elsewhere, and when I didn't find it there, I went looking elsewhere, eventually finding it on the company page. It seems more appropriate to be on the page for the product it pertains to than buried away on the page about the company. If you could please restore it with proper citation that would be appreciated. I'm not a regular editor, I just make periodic corrections/additions, so I'm not sure if there is some easy way to copy the text with the citations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.153.61.159 ( talk) 12:04, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Perhaps I wasn't clear. When I said I copied the text from the article on Executive Software aka Diskkeeper Corp aka Condusiv Technology, I was talking about the Wikipedia article. I do not know how it could be a copyright infringement, plagiarism, etc to transplant a paragraph from one wikipedia article to another. As I stated, this information makes more sense on the page about the software in question rather than the page about the company that wrote it. Also, to the best of my memory, this information used to be in the article about the diskkeeper software some time in the past. It is mind boggling that you managed to find some other site with that information (perhaps copied from wikipedia), yet failed to notice it came directly from another wikipedia article even though I stated it was from the article about the software company. I don't know how I could have made it any more clear except to link to the wikipedia page in question, /info/en/?search=Condusiv_Technologies — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.153.61.159 ( talk) 20:47, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Quick followup: I looked at the page history and it appears the entire Controversy section was moved from the Diskeeper page to the Condusiv tech article in 2011. While some of that information is pertinent only to the company (the parts about wrongful firing, lawsuits, ties to Scientology, etc), the paragraph I *restored* pertains directly to the Diskeeper software (specifically the option to remove it from Windows 2000 due to issues of trust with the company that developed it and licensed it to Microsoft) and thus I believe it to be of value in this article.
Correction: The controversy section as it was in 2011 was copied to the article on the company, but there was was still a controversy section (then limited to the parts pertinent to the software) still in 2012. That section has been around for quite some time. Looking at early versions I can see essentially the same information was there at least as early as 2006. So for more than half a decade this information had been part of the Diskeeper article. It was periodically revised and additional citations were made. The page which you wrongly think I plagiarized (since you apparently didn't do jack for research) is almost certainly the actual copyright infringer as this content has a long edit history on wikipedia. WAlso, I don't need a lesson on how to add citations. I have done that plenty of times. What I was specfically saying about citation is I'm not aware of an easy way to preserve them when copying the text from one article to another. Perhaps it would have been easier vie restoring form a past version, but that too I see no easy way to do since there fotonote numbers havef changed over time and the individual references must be copied manual afaict. Please tell me there is some reasonable/sane way to edit wikipedia wherein the citation with references can be copied along with article text. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.153.61.159 ( talk) 21:14, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I changed some details and left some notes about errors on caestus and other terminology related to ancient boxing gloves. Sphaerae (or Sphairai) were not spiked gloves, they were padded practice gloves. Oxeis Himantes, or 'sharp gloves', were a later edition from c. 4 B.C.E. onwards. They were the usual thongs but with a padded strip on the knuckles which were very effective at cutting the opponents face; hence sharp gloves. Moreover, the Boxer of Quirinal is not wearing caestus he is shown wearing the oxeis himantes.
Greek boxing gloves - Poliakoff (1987), p.70. Plato, Dialogue 342b.
Sphairai. See Poliakoff (1987), p. 91.
Caestus - Scanlon (1982-3), pp. 31-45. Lee (1997), pp. 161-78 has gone as far as to say that the caestus did not exist and was merely a misinterpretation by early scholars who viewed the Romans as violent. Kyle (2007), p. 124 says that Romans didn't make boxing violent, it was already violent with the Greeks.
Kyle, D. Sport and Spectacle in the Ancient World. London, 2007.
Lee, H. ‘Later Greek Boxing Glove and Roman Caestus: A Centennial Re-evaluation of Junther’s ‘Uber Antike Turngerathe’,’ Nikephoros, 10, 1997, 161-78.
Poliakoff, M. Combat Sports in the Ancient World: Competition, Violence and Culture, London, 1987.
Scanlon, T. ‘Greek Boxing Gloves: Terminology and Evolution’ Stadion, 8-9, 1982-3, 31-45. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.103.188.86 ( talk) 16:08, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't know why this user is continuously vandalizing in Vitamin K , I saw your warnings on his/her talk page and go through article history and user contributions and finally decided to report @ WP:AIV. I think user will be blocked soon. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 14:37, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi, sorry you thought the change I made was not constructive, I removed the reference to Tibbs because it is blatantly a lie. The album sleeve states that all tracks were written by the Enemy and I know this to be true. would appreciate it if you would reinstate my change please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.5.59 ( talk) 14:41, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
Most kind, blushing now. Thank you for your patience and advice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.186.5.59 ( talk) 14:57, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
You warned this user upto last warning. User didn't seem to get away from vandalism. Finally I have reported this user @ WP:AIV. A.Minkowiski _Lets t@lk 16:31, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
Hello, I recived a two! messages from you, and have no idea who you are, I am a new user who has information to share with people and i really would appreciate if you could stop reviwng my edits, i have an old dad, old mom already, to know what is right and wrong.
Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1Secretlove1 ( talk • contribs) 09:43, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
I don't edit Wikipedia to make friends, so I won't be losing any sleep. Just please try and edit within said policies, and I'm sure you will be editing Wikipedia for many hours to come. And don't visit then, it's really chilly in Melbourne anyway! — MelbourneStar☆ talk 10:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
MSTAR, I cannot reference my own name as it appears no where on the internet. This is not 'vandalism'. Please consider repealing your offensive block to my own edit.
LJM. 2.25.34.126
This is abinoh2001. I received your message. I have been trying to straighten this situation our for some time. Someone created a redirect from Edison Community College's page (where I work) to Edison State College in Florida. I really need this redirect gone, so that I can establish a page for OUR school. I understand that at some point Edison State College in Florida may have been referred to as Edison Community College, but no longer. Please let me know how we can rectify this situation. Thanks! Abinoh2001 ( talk) 12:20, 14 April 2014 (UTC)abinoh2001
The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar | |
Keep up the great work of keeping Wiki articles. Vandalism free. DBig Xray 08:20, 15 April 2014 (UTC) |
Thanks for the revert. Dear me. What has happened to the young people? Anna Frodesiak ( talk) 13:42, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
sorry, just having a bit of fun, but the last thing I think is appropriate to say — Preceding unsigned comment added by Enorox ( talk • contribs)
User:Zyma starting on these article an edit war. Please check these artciles. Thanks. Yagmurlukorfez ( talk) 18:17, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
Uh, with due respect, I was still in the middle of finishing that AfD nomination. -- RaiderAspect ( talk) 10:24, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
I have the permission to copy from that website. How can i copy the matter on to my article? Knithin24 ( talk) 04:34, 18 April 2014 (UTC)Nithin Chandra
please explain what you found inappropriate about the correct spelling of the acronym ANZAC — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.149.213 ( talk) 10:49, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi MelbourneStar, I'm sorry I made mistake. I wanted add this into wesbites about Green tea because I think it might be useful to show how many different benefits people can get from drinking green tea. Do you think it's a bad idea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Almorell ( talk • contribs) 14:24, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
I was surfing the net and I searched mongol empire and I found that there were more than 40 countries who had been tributary relationships with mongol empire. I am bit surprised to find that only Goryeo's title status of country is written as 'tributary relationships with mongol empire'. Except Goryeo, no other country's title is written as 'tributary relationships with mongol empire. Even there was more than 40 countries. Goryeo was born with independent country in 918 who was descendant of Goguryeo and it had a cruel war with mongol for long time and became tribute for a bit, I do not deny that. But Goryeo achieved independence after 1360 with there own, they kicked out yuan dynasty which was descendant of mongol empire. I ask for change in Goryeo's status. This status is kind of discrimination.
Thank you. ≈ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ichrio Nazuki ( talk • contribs) 10:58, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the vandalism on my talk page :) Kev (talk) 11:06, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for reverting the edit at Whole_body_vibration to take out the advertising link. We are rewriting the content to better explain this health and fitness discipline from a neutral point of view, taking care to explain the different types of vibration machines and their uses for fitness training and therapy. Di Heap ( talk) 19:38, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
Hi,they are really cheat at many peoples,just want more peoples know about their Debts,before they will make deposit.Because when i open Wiki page about Cake i start think that this is clean company,but actually not. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beregxxx ( talk • contribs) 16:06, 2 May 2014 (UTC)