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A tag has been placed on Draft:George The Matchmaker, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
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A tag has been placed on Draft:George Cervantes, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. VViking Talk Edits 14:19, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
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Thank you. David Biddulph ( talk) 13:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC) Thank you! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 14:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC) Hello, Can you please check the citations I have added to the page. I was told the subject must be on different websites to show notability and he is in more than 4. (a few of them have his name on the title of the news article) Do I need to add more places to show notability? Thank you in advance! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:43, 15 October 2021 (UTC) /info/en/?search=Draft:George_Cervantes Here is the page. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing.
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Draft:George Cervantes, you may be blocked from editing. Moving a draft into article space after it has been rejected, without discussion with the reviewers, is disruptive and may result in a topic-ban. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:46, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
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George Cervantes, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from
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FaddleTalk to me 11:54, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Thank you for taking time to review the article and I will continue to work until it will meet the standards for Wikipedia. Thank you again! --
Marcorubiocali (
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12:35, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Marcorubiocali. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:George Cervantes, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:44, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
I promised to address this on your talk page.
Instead of writing about, in this case, Cervantes, start in a different place. Research all the references you can find about him and then whittle them down to the ones that demonstrate notability. Before you do that read this essay, one of many that discuss the process of article writing, and take the process described within it to heart.
Know that many people can have references about them and still fail to be notable in a Wikipedia sense so know when to stand back and wait FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 21:59, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Should I focus my attention on all the recognition he is given by the local community due to his 10+ years of contributions to the local animal shelters in Los Angeles, Chicago, Harrisburg and many more locations? He has become well-known for helping local animal charities and that's why he gets online publications about him.
Thank you! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:15, 20 October 2021 (UTC) I will continue to work on the draft without publishing it. I will collect more information about him and continue to work on the draft as you adviced me to do. Thank you -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:25, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for helping me out. I will go ahead and do as you have explained here. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:31, 20 October 2021 (UTC) I can continue to work on the draft correct? -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:32, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Got it! Thank you! I wil go ahead and do as you said. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 06:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for all the guidance. It really means a lot and I will take everything and apply it to my future draft. People dislike editors and that's because they are trying to cheat the system or do something wrong. I will create a page that will meet ALL the requirements. Thank you! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 20:49, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
That statement is 100% true. Have a great day and thank you for your guidance. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:19, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. I have worked on the page for many hours. I hope it finally meets the standards you require and fulfills all the requirements that you need. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:33, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you and I appreciate all your help. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:47, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
You have done well to get as far as you have. The person you chose to wrote about, however decent and good a person he is in life, was always going to be very hard to write about here. But please do not get discouraged. I started out here by looking for information. When I failed to find it I decided to write it. My first attempts were terrible, but I never gave up. Wikipedia is also a harsh place. People tell it like it is, no sugar coating. It's a great training ground for survival in an office, for example! FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 21:38, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for everything no matter the outcome. Thanks again! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:50, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
My conclusion: Literally all of your sources are rubbish, and I am starting to think, given the sources above, that you are either complicit in trying to publicise this person or are so credulous that you cannot separate good sources from bad. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:24, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I am church woker not an online advertiser. I work for the Church and have no clue how to promote a person online. Those are links the church volunteers have gathered for me in relation to Cervantes and his animal shelter in New York City. When you write - Who wrote this? How in the world can I know who wrote that? I have no clue who wrote. They are intereviews and online publications about Cervantes. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:35, 3 November 2021 (UTC) How is this not acceptabale. This place is a local news channel in Santa Monica, California. How do I know? I live here. This is a local news channel who has been in the area for many years. https://argonautnews.com/animal-advocate-2/ Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
How is this not acceptable? The Daily Herald is Chicago's LARGEST online news paper. I lived in Chicago for over 10 years and this place has been there LONGER than that. This is the MOST REPUTABLE online news channel in Chicaco. Are you sure you know what you are talking about? https://www.dailyherald.com/search/?query=george%20cervantes Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:41, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
When you have absoultely nothing to say....the only thing you can do is attack me as a person. Bottom line is that those two news channels alone make him notable. The Argonaut News and The Daily Hearld are two HUGE news sources which are featuring Cervantes. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:45, 3 November 2021 (UTC) You say that I am a marketer than prove it. YOU CAN'T. Bottom line is Cervantes was featured on the Argonaut News from Santa Monica and the Daily Herald in Chicago. Those 2 news sources are huge. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
How can the biggest news chanel in Santa Monica not be trustworthy? Why is the Daily Herald of Chicago not trustworthy? They are reputable and trsutworth news places. I am not a mercenary or whatever you are calling me. I am not a fan or a mercenary. I told you this 10 times. We go to the same church and and belong to the same volunteer group. Why those 2 news sources are not being considered towards his notability is not right. Those news channels are independent and have no association to Cervantes. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
( Personal attack removed) Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:23, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I have said everything that I will say. I will share my opinions wiht media friends and see what they think about it. You can block me, but I already have the screen shots of the way he treated me not just today, but since day 1. ( Personal attack removed) Marcorubiocali ( talk) 06:15, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Marcorubiocali. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Theroadislong ( talk) 22:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC) He has been making smart and derogatory remarks since day one towards me.
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Marcorubiocali. Thank you. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 23:02, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
Draft:George Cervantes, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:George Cervantes and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:George Cervantes during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 15:17, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
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Theroadislong (
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20:50, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
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A tag has been placed on Draft:George The Matchmaker, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. SamStrongTalks ( talk) 21:14, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.
A tag has been placed on Draft:George Cervantes, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator. VViking Talk Edits 14:19, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
Hello and welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, such as at Wikipedia:Help desk, (but never when editing articles), please be sure to sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:
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Thank you. David Biddulph ( talk) 13:32, 15 October 2021 (UTC) Thank you! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 14:57, 15 October 2021 (UTC) Hello, Can you please check the citations I have added to the page. I was told the subject must be on different websites to show notability and he is in more than 4. (a few of them have his name on the title of the news article) Do I need to add more places to show notability? Thank you in advance! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:43, 15 October 2021 (UTC) /info/en/?search=Draft:George_Cervantes Here is the page. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:44, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing.
If you continue to disrupt Wikipedia, as you did at Draft:George Cervantes, you may be blocked from editing. Moving a draft into article space after it has been rejected, without discussion with the reviewers, is disruptive and may result in a topic-ban. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:46, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
An article you recently created,
George Cervantes, is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from
reliable,
independent sources. (
?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (
verifiability is of
central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to
draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:
" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's
general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page.
FiddleTimtrent
FaddleTalk to me 11:54, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello,
Thank you for taking time to review the article and I will continue to work until it will meet the standards for Wikipedia. Thank you again! --
Marcorubiocali (
talk)
12:35, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
Hello, Marcorubiocali. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on the page Draft:George Cervantes, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the conflict of interest guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Robert McClenon ( talk) 00:44, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
I promised to address this on your talk page.
Instead of writing about, in this case, Cervantes, start in a different place. Research all the references you can find about him and then whittle them down to the ones that demonstrate notability. Before you do that read this essay, one of many that discuss the process of article writing, and take the process described within it to heart.
Know that many people can have references about them and still fail to be notable in a Wikipedia sense so know when to stand back and wait FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 21:59, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Should I focus my attention on all the recognition he is given by the local community due to his 10+ years of contributions to the local animal shelters in Los Angeles, Chicago, Harrisburg and many more locations? He has become well-known for helping local animal charities and that's why he gets online publications about him.
Thank you! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:15, 20 October 2021 (UTC) I will continue to work on the draft without publishing it. I will collect more information about him and continue to work on the draft as you adviced me to do. Thank you -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:25, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for helping me out. I will go ahead and do as you have explained here. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:31, 20 October 2021 (UTC) I can continue to work on the draft correct? -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:32, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
Got it! Thank you! I wil go ahead and do as you said. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 06:58, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for all the guidance. It really means a lot and I will take everything and apply it to my future draft. People dislike editors and that's because they are trying to cheat the system or do something wrong. I will create a page that will meet ALL the requirements. Thank you! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 20:49, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
That statement is 100% true. Have a great day and thank you for your guidance. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:19, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you for the feedback. I have worked on the page for many hours. I hope it finally meets the standards you require and fulfills all the requirements that you need. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:33, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Thank you and I appreciate all your help. -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 15:47, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. Robert McClenon ( talk) 22:56, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
You have done well to get as far as you have. The person you chose to wrote about, however decent and good a person he is in life, was always going to be very hard to write about here. But please do not get discouraged. I started out here by looking for information. When I failed to find it I decided to write it. My first attempts were terrible, but I never gave up. Wikipedia is also a harsh place. People tell it like it is, no sugar coating. It's a great training ground for survival in an office, for example! FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 21:38, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for everything no matter the outcome. Thanks again! -- Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:50, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
My conclusion: Literally all of your sources are rubbish, and I am starting to think, given the sources above, that you are either complicit in trying to publicise this person or are so credulous that you cannot separate good sources from bad. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:24, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I am church woker not an online advertiser. I work for the Church and have no clue how to promote a person online. Those are links the church volunteers have gathered for me in relation to Cervantes and his animal shelter in New York City. When you write - Who wrote this? How in the world can I know who wrote that? I have no clue who wrote. They are intereviews and online publications about Cervantes. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:35, 3 November 2021 (UTC) How is this not acceptabale. This place is a local news channel in Santa Monica, California. How do I know? I live here. This is a local news channel who has been in the area for many years. https://argonautnews.com/animal-advocate-2/ Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:38, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
How is this not acceptable? The Daily Herald is Chicago's LARGEST online news paper. I lived in Chicago for over 10 years and this place has been there LONGER than that. This is the MOST REPUTABLE online news channel in Chicaco. Are you sure you know what you are talking about? https://www.dailyherald.com/search/?query=george%20cervantes Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:41, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
When you have absoultely nothing to say....the only thing you can do is attack me as a person. Bottom line is that those two news channels alone make him notable. The Argonaut News and The Daily Hearld are two HUGE news sources which are featuring Cervantes. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:45, 3 November 2021 (UTC) You say that I am a marketer than prove it. YOU CAN'T. Bottom line is Cervantes was featured on the Argonaut News from Santa Monica and the Daily Herald in Chicago. Those 2 news sources are huge. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 21:47, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
How can the biggest news chanel in Santa Monica not be trustworthy? Why is the Daily Herald of Chicago not trustworthy? They are reputable and trsutworth news places. I am not a mercenary or whatever you are calling me. I am not a fan or a mercenary. I told you this 10 times. We go to the same church and and belong to the same volunteer group. Why those 2 news sources are not being considered towards his notability is not right. Those news channels are independent and have no association to Cervantes. Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:09, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
( Personal attack removed) Marcorubiocali ( talk) 22:23, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
I have said everything that I will say. I will share my opinions wiht media friends and see what they think about it. You can block me, but I already have the screen shots of the way he treated me not just today, but since day 1. ( Personal attack removed) Marcorubiocali ( talk) 06:15, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
Please do not attack other editors, as you did at User talk:Marcorubiocali. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Theroadislong ( talk) 22:29, 3 November 2021 (UTC) He has been making smart and derogatory remarks since day one towards me.
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Marcorubiocali. Thank you. — A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 23:02, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
Draft:George Cervantes, a page which you created or substantially contributed to, has been nominated for deletion. Your opinions on the matter are welcome; you may participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:George Cervantes and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Draft:George Cervantes during the discussion but should not remove the miscellany for deletion template from the top of the page; such a removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 15:17, 17 November 2021 (UTC)