March 2006 - June 2006 |
Hi, thanks for the message about Cornish emigration, am still quite new to Wikipedia so it's great to get some feedback!-- DuncanHill 11:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mammal, Great work on the project page - I would be very happy for St Buryan to go forward for a go as a featured article as you suggest. Reedgunner
re Hayle vandalism; No problem. Are you familiar with the process of reverting? I find the edit commentary the most difficult thing, I've pretty much given up saying which edit I've reverted to... LessHeard vanU 19:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the mesaage re Gulval - Gulval is part of the Penzance Civil Parish and is also its own chuch parish with a parochial parish council (chuch council) so the article should make that clear I think the way you phrased it in my talk section was a good way to explain it and I will have a go at clarifying it. Reedgunner
Thanks mammal your tidy up is alot better than my effort!!! Reedgunner
From LessHeard vanU talk page; What exactly did you have in mind here in terms of expanded content, and how much detail do you think appropriate? I will have a crack at this over the weekend - have fun at Flora day ;) Mammal4 12:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)"
As the site contains the Railway Station, National Bus Co Station and local bus station all three services could usefully discussed in the one paragraph (or two if it warrants it). The excellent list of major stations accessed from Pz is a good example. A (linked) list of the Railway companies operating services from the station would help. Re the National Bus Co. (with link), a list of major destinations serviced again - with a possible note/link to the Royal Blues if deemed worthy. A note of the local bus service(s) operating services to St. Ives, Lands End and any other place deemed noteworthy. Other mentions could be given to the bus service operated by Isles of Scilly Steamship Co. to connect its air service from Lands End and the fact that the passenger ferry service to the Isles is within a short walking distance from the Station complex. In short, the stuff a traveller to or via Pz might find useful.
From the length of just my suggestion it may well be two or three paragraphs. LessHeard vanU 20:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC) ps. I'll do my best re Flora Day! grin.
Hello Mammal - The Gwinear Gwithian area is as you rightly say complicated. I will have a look at the local goverment side a bit later on and I will also attempt to have a go on the History aswell - By the way - The Hayle entry is giving me a headache - I can't decide if its great or just a block of text that no one reads!! What do you think?? Reedgunner
Hi Mammal4 , Thanks for the nomination RE local government etc - Feel free to tidy up my stuff as much as you want I think its just good to get more content in there - I will keep going !!
Have you any ideas how we could cordinate the Penwith updates etc user:reedgunner
Hello Mammal4, and thank you for your message. I'm afraid I don't know very much about Penwith - I concentrate on disambiguation and I was fixing the links to St Ives. That's now pretty much complete, and I've also corrected some links to St Hilary so they now point to St Hilary, Cornwall which will help you a bit. Good luck with your project CarolGray 19:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mammal and thanks for inviting me! I would love to help with the Penwith WikiProject although I have recently become quite busy and wouldn't be able to put in a great deal of time. But of course I will help if I can :-) -- Joowwww 14:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Happy to help with this - where and when time allows. What needs sorting? Talskiddy 16:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Please feel free to add the numbers to the Restormel map. Talskiddy 23:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Nice one mammal I like the style alot and the "You don't have to agree with everything but there is no excuse for rudeness and these things are best solved through consensus building and compromise" section sums it up perfectly. Dont worry about the hot heads etc let them have their war!!! Its all politics to be honest and they should have a grown up point of view or get off wikipedia and leave it to people who are intersted in the facts - All the best!! Reedgunner 13:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
However, unlike other England geography articles, most writers for Cornwall entries use Uk.
This is the consensus, and this opinion should be respected.
I have tried to come up with some compromise on this, by using both England and Uk in the description (e.g St Just, Cornwall, England; a constituent of the United Kingdom. I think that this is the fullest answer, and covers both points of view, however, I have had no feedback on this. Unless some sort of agreement is reached, then this will continue to crop up again and again. I'm sure we could all spend our time better by improving the depth of content in these articles, rather than reverting back and forth over this small point! :) Mammal4 20:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi - I have added the following to Cornwall Talk - I don't know what you think about this idea?? I have been thinking long and hard about this UK / England business. I think when we present information in wikipedia we have a big responsibility because many internet users use this as a source for information. Firstly I agree there is strong feeling in Cornwall about its unique status and seperation from England - I feel it, support it and am actively involved in campaigning to sort it out. However we need to also consider political fact, at the moment Cornwall is subject to English and Welsh Law on a day to day basis and the control of UK government, natural Cornish Law (stannary etc) although never repealed is actively ignored by the UK authorities. Essentially we are in a big constitutional and poltical mess made worse by centuries of bumbling and self interest all we can do is examine the hard facts
Fact 1 - Cornwall was historicaly seperate from England Fact 2 - This has never been repealed Fact 3 - Cornwall is subject to English Law (English and Welsh law that is) Fact 4 - Cornwall is subject to the control of UK government Fact 5 - The Duke of Cornwall and the Duchy are offices and establishments of the UK crown and previously the English Crown. Fact 6 - Cornwall is culturally seperate from England. Fact 7 - Despite wide spread support and the efforts of the Cornish people no devolved DEMOCRATIC cornish body exists yet.
My proposal would be that a common description should be something like this
[Town Name], Cornwall, England (disputed), UK.
The 'disputed' would then link to the 'constitutional status of cornwall page' with a mature debate about history, current position etc. I don't like it any more than Pediac does to be truthfull !! If I was presenting my own work only I would say that Cornwall alone was sufficient but I am not and we need to be balanced however personally distasteful we find another position user:reedgunner
I had no idea that those contributors to Cornish articles who use same to only promote their concepts of "(anti)nationalism" were a source of irritation to you (I read your entry on Reedrunners talkpage). May I suggest a couple of things? Firstly, don't get involved - I would imagine that neither side is much interested in arriving at concensus. Since this is antiWikipedian then, secondly, you could refer this matter to some senior admins and the like; if the matter cannot be sorted by the debating parties then some policy may have to be imposed - or perhaps a few people banned for a while to cool things down. Lastly, after a quick reference to Reedrunner and the other editor that has signed up to the Project, you can make the issue part of project Policy. It doesn't mean that people won't vandalise/revert, but if they stay out of the project then they are obviously are not interested in anything other than their own interests.
Like I said, leaving them to their own devices for a while may be a good idea. It is unlikely there will have been any progress made should you return. LessHeard vanU 21:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC) ps. I will keep this page watched for a while if you feel the need to reply.
Hi Mammal looks like to penwith wikiproject is beginning to look very good in recognition of the work yo have put into this I would like to award you this.
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The Original Barnstar | |
for your hard work on the Penwith Geography project and coming up with the idea in the first place Reedgunner 17:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC) |
The Restormel map looks great to me!
Please accept this Barnstar for your work on Cornish subjects and your maps on Wikipedia!
Hi Dan, Great to have you onboard at Penwith. Do you have any ideas about what you want to do, or any special skills that we should know about ;) Mammal4 15:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This user is a member of the Penwith Wikiproject. |
I have added a table of non-parish articles requiring improvement. ( Here) It is by no means complete, so feel free to add to it any others that you know about. Might be worth merging it with your "to do" template so that they're all in the same place.
Also, what does the "status" rating in the parish article table refer to? I assume that it's some sort of rating based on the quality of the article, but what exactly do the numbers mean? — Dan1980 19:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Cheers for the barnstar! The sections could still do with a bit of a tidy, especially the main page, but hopefully it is a bit easier to navigate now. Dan1980 15:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Was having a really bad day and the barnstar lifted my mood beyond measure!!! Many thanks and looking forward to working on the project some more Reedgunner 17:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I am not able to do anything with the template to get the border around the image. I do not think that it is supposed to go around the entire image, because I am looking at another template with the same type of setup, and the border does not go behind the image. I am going to take the helpme off your page. If you have any more questions, please contact me. -- No1lakersfan 13:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
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March 2006 - June 2006 |
Hi, thanks for the message about Cornish emigration, am still quite new to Wikipedia so it's great to get some feedback!-- DuncanHill 11:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mammal, Great work on the project page - I would be very happy for St Buryan to go forward for a go as a featured article as you suggest. Reedgunner
re Hayle vandalism; No problem. Are you familiar with the process of reverting? I find the edit commentary the most difficult thing, I've pretty much given up saying which edit I've reverted to... LessHeard vanU 19:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the mesaage re Gulval - Gulval is part of the Penzance Civil Parish and is also its own chuch parish with a parochial parish council (chuch council) so the article should make that clear I think the way you phrased it in my talk section was a good way to explain it and I will have a go at clarifying it. Reedgunner
Thanks mammal your tidy up is alot better than my effort!!! Reedgunner
From LessHeard vanU talk page; What exactly did you have in mind here in terms of expanded content, and how much detail do you think appropriate? I will have a crack at this over the weekend - have fun at Flora day ;) Mammal4 12:34, 5 May 2006 (UTC)"
As the site contains the Railway Station, National Bus Co Station and local bus station all three services could usefully discussed in the one paragraph (or two if it warrants it). The excellent list of major stations accessed from Pz is a good example. A (linked) list of the Railway companies operating services from the station would help. Re the National Bus Co. (with link), a list of major destinations serviced again - with a possible note/link to the Royal Blues if deemed worthy. A note of the local bus service(s) operating services to St. Ives, Lands End and any other place deemed noteworthy. Other mentions could be given to the bus service operated by Isles of Scilly Steamship Co. to connect its air service from Lands End and the fact that the passenger ferry service to the Isles is within a short walking distance from the Station complex. In short, the stuff a traveller to or via Pz might find useful.
From the length of just my suggestion it may well be two or three paragraphs. LessHeard vanU 20:40, 5 May 2006 (UTC) ps. I'll do my best re Flora Day! grin.
Hello Mammal - The Gwinear Gwithian area is as you rightly say complicated. I will have a look at the local goverment side a bit later on and I will also attempt to have a go on the History aswell - By the way - The Hayle entry is giving me a headache - I can't decide if its great or just a block of text that no one reads!! What do you think?? Reedgunner
Hi Mammal4 , Thanks for the nomination RE local government etc - Feel free to tidy up my stuff as much as you want I think its just good to get more content in there - I will keep going !!
Have you any ideas how we could cordinate the Penwith updates etc user:reedgunner
Hello Mammal4, and thank you for your message. I'm afraid I don't know very much about Penwith - I concentrate on disambiguation and I was fixing the links to St Ives. That's now pretty much complete, and I've also corrected some links to St Hilary so they now point to St Hilary, Cornwall which will help you a bit. Good luck with your project CarolGray 19:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
Hi Mammal and thanks for inviting me! I would love to help with the Penwith WikiProject although I have recently become quite busy and wouldn't be able to put in a great deal of time. But of course I will help if I can :-) -- Joowwww 14:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Happy to help with this - where and when time allows. What needs sorting? Talskiddy 16:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Please feel free to add the numbers to the Restormel map. Talskiddy 23:37, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Nice one mammal I like the style alot and the "You don't have to agree with everything but there is no excuse for rudeness and these things are best solved through consensus building and compromise" section sums it up perfectly. Dont worry about the hot heads etc let them have their war!!! Its all politics to be honest and they should have a grown up point of view or get off wikipedia and leave it to people who are intersted in the facts - All the best!! Reedgunner 13:51, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
However, unlike other England geography articles, most writers for Cornwall entries use Uk.
This is the consensus, and this opinion should be respected.
I have tried to come up with some compromise on this, by using both England and Uk in the description (e.g St Just, Cornwall, England; a constituent of the United Kingdom. I think that this is the fullest answer, and covers both points of view, however, I have had no feedback on this. Unless some sort of agreement is reached, then this will continue to crop up again and again. I'm sure we could all spend our time better by improving the depth of content in these articles, rather than reverting back and forth over this small point! :) Mammal4 20:39, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi - I have added the following to Cornwall Talk - I don't know what you think about this idea?? I have been thinking long and hard about this UK / England business. I think when we present information in wikipedia we have a big responsibility because many internet users use this as a source for information. Firstly I agree there is strong feeling in Cornwall about its unique status and seperation from England - I feel it, support it and am actively involved in campaigning to sort it out. However we need to also consider political fact, at the moment Cornwall is subject to English and Welsh Law on a day to day basis and the control of UK government, natural Cornish Law (stannary etc) although never repealed is actively ignored by the UK authorities. Essentially we are in a big constitutional and poltical mess made worse by centuries of bumbling and self interest all we can do is examine the hard facts
Fact 1 - Cornwall was historicaly seperate from England Fact 2 - This has never been repealed Fact 3 - Cornwall is subject to English Law (English and Welsh law that is) Fact 4 - Cornwall is subject to the control of UK government Fact 5 - The Duke of Cornwall and the Duchy are offices and establishments of the UK crown and previously the English Crown. Fact 6 - Cornwall is culturally seperate from England. Fact 7 - Despite wide spread support and the efforts of the Cornish people no devolved DEMOCRATIC cornish body exists yet.
My proposal would be that a common description should be something like this
[Town Name], Cornwall, England (disputed), UK.
The 'disputed' would then link to the 'constitutional status of cornwall page' with a mature debate about history, current position etc. I don't like it any more than Pediac does to be truthfull !! If I was presenting my own work only I would say that Cornwall alone was sufficient but I am not and we need to be balanced however personally distasteful we find another position user:reedgunner
I had no idea that those contributors to Cornish articles who use same to only promote their concepts of "(anti)nationalism" were a source of irritation to you (I read your entry on Reedrunners talkpage). May I suggest a couple of things? Firstly, don't get involved - I would imagine that neither side is much interested in arriving at concensus. Since this is antiWikipedian then, secondly, you could refer this matter to some senior admins and the like; if the matter cannot be sorted by the debating parties then some policy may have to be imposed - or perhaps a few people banned for a while to cool things down. Lastly, after a quick reference to Reedrunner and the other editor that has signed up to the Project, you can make the issue part of project Policy. It doesn't mean that people won't vandalise/revert, but if they stay out of the project then they are obviously are not interested in anything other than their own interests.
Like I said, leaving them to their own devices for a while may be a good idea. It is unlikely there will have been any progress made should you return. LessHeard vanU 21:16, 4 June 2006 (UTC) ps. I will keep this page watched for a while if you feel the need to reply.
Hi Mammal looks like to penwith wikiproject is beginning to look very good in recognition of the work yo have put into this I would like to award you this.
![]() |
The Original Barnstar | |
for your hard work on the Penwith Geography project and coming up with the idea in the first place Reedgunner 17:08, 3 June 2006 (UTC) |
The Restormel map looks great to me!
Please accept this Barnstar for your work on Cornish subjects and your maps on Wikipedia!
Hi Dan, Great to have you onboard at Penwith. Do you have any ideas about what you want to do, or any special skills that we should know about ;) Mammal4 15:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
![]() | This user is a member of the Penwith Wikiproject. |
I have added a table of non-parish articles requiring improvement. ( Here) It is by no means complete, so feel free to add to it any others that you know about. Might be worth merging it with your "to do" template so that they're all in the same place.
Also, what does the "status" rating in the parish article table refer to? I assume that it's some sort of rating based on the quality of the article, but what exactly do the numbers mean? — Dan1980 19:51, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
Cheers for the barnstar! The sections could still do with a bit of a tidy, especially the main page, but hopefully it is a bit easier to navigate now. Dan1980 15:31, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Was having a really bad day and the barnstar lifted my mood beyond measure!!! Many thanks and looking forward to working on the project some more Reedgunner 17:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I am not able to do anything with the template to get the border around the image. I do not think that it is supposed to go around the entire image, because I am looking at another template with the same type of setup, and the border does not go behind the image. I am going to take the helpme off your page. If you have any more questions, please contact me. -- No1lakersfan 13:02, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
Bhadani has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{ subst:smile}}, {{ subst:smile2}} or {{ subst:smile3}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Happy editing!
-- Bhadani 14:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)