I'm still a relative newcomer here myself but I was happy to see your email on the Lunar listserve this afternoon. I too have been dismayed at the state of the Lunar information here. I hope your call for help brings a few more lunatics out of the woodwork to help clean this stuff up. IntrplnetSarah 20:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC) (aka Sarah Noble)
"Lunokhod": who are you to assign quality and importance ratings to articles? You assign "start-class" to many articles that have been developed for a long time and are stable and mature; also I did not see any references to a proper review or the criteria that led you to such a verdict: so I find it hard to take these classifications seriously. I believe essentially these are just your own personal, and not informed consensus, opinions. Nonetheless you boldly do put such official-looking assessments on the pages, possibly confusing or misleading readers. Tom Peters 12:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Can you send me the source of this picture? PSD or whatever.
I'd like to:
my mail is: eip at mail dot ru.
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I hereby present to you the Exceptional Newcomer Award. Lunokhod, you have shown exceptional enthusiasm, skill, and boldness, with your edits to the Moon-related articles, and setting up the Moon WikiProject. Well done! Mlm42 11:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC) |
You recently nominated for Apollo Moon Landing hoax accusations as a Good Article. I have looked at the article and don't feel that it meets the criteria for a good article at this time. I have explained my reasoning on the article's talk page. Thank you for your efforts and feel free to submit it again once the concerns have been addressed. Neil916 ( Talk) 06:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, any particular reason why you re-created Talk talk:Lunar phase after I had deleted Talk talk:lunar phase? Those pages shouldn't be there, the software thinks they are supposed to be articles if they don't start with the exact letter sequence "Talk:" I'd moved the comments on that first page to the proper Talk:Lunar phase, where they supposedly belong. -- Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
That was a perfectly good scholarly reference. Also, the newly revamped Double Planet article you linked to makes the same claim (only in more abstract terms) but is not referenced. I would appreciate a response on this; I plan to revert the change if no explanation is forthcoming. This article makes it perfectly clear that the Moon has a convex orbit around the Sun; it isn't simply a matter of relative gravitational pull. Serendipodous 13:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
The page on the Full moon cycle has been proposed for deletion. You recently added it to your WikiProject Moon, so you may wish to express an opinion whether it should stay or not. Tom Peters 15:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I took a look at Venus and Mercury. Confirmed my main point that criteria 1a and 1b are where the Moon article needs work: The featured articles have compelling prose, jargon explained, readily accessible to a non-specialist audience. The Venus article in particular has very nice writing, it just flows effortlessly, it doesn't put you to sleep or make your eyes cross. The introduction is particularly excellent, providing a nice basic overview. While still not super accessible to the third grader (!), at least the average parent can figure it out without needing a degree in physics! If we figure Wikipedia is more Britannica than World Book (which actually writes different articles to different reading levels based on what grades usually study a given subject, BTW), it works. In short, the biggest difference between Moon and the featured articles is in style and readability, though of the sections in Moon still need rearranging to flow more logically, even if you keep the "fun" stuff at the end the way the other articles do...hope this helps. Good luck! Montanabw 04:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Lunokhod: regarding our controversy on the NOR policy: I submitted my case at the Village Pump. You probably want to respond. Tom Peters 14:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
You're disputing in good company. At least he has the class to give you a heads-up.
Here's a quicklink. I'm interested in hearing your take on this given the logic I'd applied before seeing your claim to a PHD.
I'd also suggested that out of respect for the holiday season, Tom Peters take his time in re-generating his derivations and tacking them into the talk or a subpage for inspection. They've been in place for a long while, so there is no hurry, as if it were new content under fire.
I'd prefer you both work on the English around the math in the iterim. It needs dumbed down so a 7th-8th grader can at least get the gist. Kudos on jumping in with both feet on the Moon Project, that's ballsy, given the learning curve and your newish status. If you have a question on generalities, etc., I'm on the
WP:Wc, and glad to lend an assist. Best regards, //
Fra
nkB
01:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just given my reply here :) Count Iblis 23:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Lunokhod: thanx for the reference suggestion on my talk page. I do have all Meeus's Morsels books: they provide various curiosa in celestial dynamics, but little on exactly how they were computed; in any case no new parameters or formulae. I asked Meeus but he replied that at his age (he is in his 70's) he does not consider updating his "Astronomical Algorithms". On our controversy on Original Research: I remain skeptical that any of this could be published in a common journal, especially since much of the stuff has been available in Wikipedia for some time. However, maybe the Academia Wikia is a proper place for digests of newer literature. I started a broad journal here. Would you spend time to referee such publications? Tom Peters 01:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
That eclipse cycle page is bizarre. People simply do not seem to understand that jargon makes articles inpenetrable. Have you considered asking for help from mediators? Dr. Submillimeter 20:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Would it be possible to make these footers collapse to a single line, as opposed to two lines? Also, is there a way to set the default as to whether the footer is initially open or collapsed? For the Moon footer, under most situations, think that it would be best to have this by default open. Lunokhod 00:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
class="collapsible"
) is controlled by an additional class (autocollapse & collapsed) if no additional classes are given the navbox remains open. Possibly the bet overview on the entire collapsing is the bottom table at {{
Navigational templates}}. To address you first point, I hope to fix the line break/resizing of the header when [hide] in the near future, for now I've provided a fix for most of the solar system template I've touched. --
Dispenser
04:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
well, my edit summary says it all really. Do you tend to agree or disagree? If you disagree, you can just remove the template, I don't feel strongly about it. If you agree, we can just, like, do it :) dab (𒁳) 13:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I think I should be able to take care of that: specifically, I can run through the Category:moon stubs and find everything tagged with both {{ moon-stub}} and {{ crater-stub}} and replace it with {{ moon-crater-stub}}. I don't know how many that'll get though: there's probably many tagged with one or the other, that ought to have had both, biut didn't. Alai 23:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I have found two reputable authorities for the Basin Groups Stage as a subdivision of the Pre-Nectarian. Take a look at the GeoWhen database and Harland, Walter Brian , et al. (1989) A Geologic Time Scale 1989 Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, Fig. 1.7 on page 10, available via Google books, which shows both Basin Groups and Cryptic. Unfortunately the textual discussion is not available as part of the Google offering. I do realize that at present these subdivisions remain more theoretical than real, as many lunar deposits are still just lumped together as Pre-Imbrian age materials, which may account for the absence of mention of Basin Groups in Wilhelms' book and Martel's article. -- Bejnar 01:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I did not graft lunar timescale onto the Earth. I am only reporting what has happened in the literature. We do not do original research here. If you don't like the fact that some people in the field of geology have decided that the early histories of the Moon and the Earth are close enough to each other that the same time scale is appropriate, take it up with them in the appropriate forum, which is not Wikipedia. The fact that the Devonian was first established in England, did not stop geologists from using it in the New World. As editors we don't dictate what goes into science, we report what scientists say, in their publications. Please do not remove properly cited reliable information just because "This is really bizarre." and you think that it isn't the way things should be done. Do try to get a hold of a copy of Harland, Walter Brian , et al. (1989) A Geologic Time Scale 1989 and read what he has to say in the text portion. It is not selenologists who are using these subdivisions, it is geologists, probably mostly cosmologists, so it is not surprising that these subdivisions are not mentioned in Wilhelms' book and Martel's article about the Moon. -- Bejnar 18:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
George Gamov to Immanuel Velikovsky. Nothing against geochemists, especially John P. Marble.(c.1900-1955). "were at least trained in terrestrial geology before specializing in planetary geology. (The converse is generally not true.)" I agree, Armstrong had not even landed on the moon when I took most of my geology and mineralogy coursework. I did take Strat. & Sed. afterwards. -- Bejnar 23:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I just started using popups, for my reverts or edits using them, should i add in that i used them, or does it happen automatically? DUBJAY04 23:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
The article Transient lunar phenomenon you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:Transient lunar phenomenon for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations.--JEF 03:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed your recent interest in this article. If you have a chance to look it over more carefully, please see my comments in Talk:Allais effect. In short, the article is misleading in its present state and needs rewriting. More than that, unfortunately, it seems to need constant watching to prevent it from being repeatedly skewed by pseudoscience fans. —Steven G. Johnson 01:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to ask you to honor your agreement to "withdraw your AfD nomination" on presnetation of "reputable references showing that this topic meets wikipedia's notability criteria". I've done my part, let's see whether you are acting in good faith. Gravitor 20:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I believe you are in violation of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines in your crusade against factual information about the US government Moon program. You are, by your own admission, an employee of the US govt Moon program. Please respond with the steps you are willing to voluntarily take to rectify this, including following through with your previous assurances, or I will be forced to make a formal complaint. In particular, these guidelines call on users to
Hi Mr/ Miss Lunokhod,
I am aware that you are an expert in planetary science, recommended by Dr. Submillimeter. As a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Articles, i was wondering if you would possibly be interested in the article: Caves of Mars Project. This article is currently tagged as Articles which need to be adopted. This is a collaborative effort to improve visitation to abandoned articles. Thanks! Luffy487 12:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I share your concerns that they might still be the same guy even though the admin concluded that they weren't. The fact is that their approach to this subject makes them nearly indistinguishable from each other. But if he/they get too belligerent (again, like last summer) we can "take them to court", as it were. I have pretty much shyed away from the "independent evidence" page, because (as I stated there, and which Gravitor seemed not even to notice), I don't trust that character's motives. So I'm waiting to see what he comes up with. Then we'll see if Carfiend comes in and says, "See, there's no real evidence", as I suspect Gravitor's agenda is. What a hassle. Just imagine what the Theory of Evolution page must be like. Wahkeenah 13:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Independent evidence for Apollo Moon landings. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please read WP:3RR and use the talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gravitor ( talk • contribs)
Would there be any reason for an "independent evidence" article if hoax accusations didn't exist? It seems to be that one is the answer to the other, and I see no need for two articles about such silly accusations when one would do. - Nunh-huh 20:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Lunokhod! Of course the name of the Moon is Luna. Like we live on Tellus. We live on Earth most of us also, but some live on water. Rursus 20:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
with the greatest respect Khabibullo Ismailovich Abdusamatov, however wrong and idiotic, is now notable and really should be linked, if only to avoid edit warring with hordes of MGW advocates. By the way, great username, kind regards sbandrews 19:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your additions to to orbits template. — Swpb talk contribs 00:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Gravitor, you have been making a series of personal attacks ( WP:NPA) and uncivil comments ( WP:Civility) that are in violation of wikipedia policy. I am going to ask kindly, once again, that you refrain from doing so.
As examples,
Your editing behavior is also very disruptive ( WP:DE).
I think you get the point. I understand that this debate has become a bit heated, and that other users could perhaps be accused of making a personal attack from time to time, but you are displaying the worst behaviour of anyone that I have interacted with on Wikipedia since joining the community. I really would prefer not to take administrative action because (1) it is a waste of my time, and (2) should not be necessary considering that we are both adults (I am assuming that if you actually played the game gravitor, that you are far from being an adolescent teen). I am asking once again that you please try to remain calm when participating in debates and attempt to be civil. Lunokhod 17:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Gravitor 09:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thanks for your note on my talk page; this is an issue i have been hoping to address for some time.. your work is much appreciated! :) Mlm42 10:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Lunokhod, I am going to be fairly busy IRL in the next couple of days, and will not be able to invest the needed time to do a good job on the merge closing. Thanks for your understanding, Crum375 14:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks very much for the note you left on my talk page. I'm honored. I took a look at the discussion concerning "Proposed merge of Independent evidence for Apollo Moon landings into Apollo Moon Landing Hoax Accusations" and, woah man, that's quite a discussion! It'll take a little while to sift through before I could make an intelligent comment. But, thanks again! Petersoncello 15:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
All of the articles on quakes, besides of course earthquake were stubs. I've merged them to the main quake articles, where they can grow and then when they get long enough, they can be separate articles. Voortle 13:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the yelling. Please, next time inform me on my talk page if you have a comment on my behavior. I think that we would both agree that would be a more appropriate strategy. Lunokhod 19:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Lunokhod! Thank you kindly for your feedback. On documentation (mi|num vs. milnum), adding spaces on both sides of the pipe character should probably minimize the confusion→{{km to mi | num=...}}. I'll go through the documentation and fix it.
I also have no problem with creating additional templates (such as km to AU, kps to mph, etc.). Just let me know which are the priority and which ones exactly you need. I figured that units of length, area, and temperature were a no-brainer, so I made those first, but I have no clue as to what else people might want and/or use regularly.
Finally, regarding people pre-formatting the numbers, I am afraid this is not something that can be addressed. You see, the set of functions available for template creation is extremely limited; it is certainly not even close to what's available in a full-fledged programming language. We can only hope that when someone passes a pre-formatted number as a template parameter, s/he would double-check the result, see that it generates an error, make the corrections accordingly (and never pass pre-formatted numbers to a template parameter again :)). In any case, it is probably a point worth including into documentation, so I will do that as well.
Let me know if you have any further concerns and/or suggestions, please. Best,— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); 22:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, sorry I didn't respond to your message. I was on something of an informal wikibreak, as I had started back at uni for the year. I'm not sure I really want to wade into the debate, since it could take an afternoon of reading to get to the bottom of it. And now the article is protected. Evil Monkey - Hello 03:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Greetings, you might be interested in Lunarpedia a public resource of the Moon society. Charles 01:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you know, the image you uploaded, Image:MoonStructure.jpg, has been submitted to the Graphic Lab for conversion to SVG. This request has been processed, and if you would like to comment on the new version, or offer feedback, the request can be seen here. - YK Times 18:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Please add comments: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Carfiend. I think that the evidence is pretty strong: they act in tandem, tag team, and have very similar editorial styles. -- ScienceApologist 01:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I notice your desire to put imperial units of measurement in the Moon article, but yet you state you dislike them. I notice you state you have a Ph.D (in science presumably) and I myself am doing a Masters in astrophysics studying pulsars. Like you, I also like improving scientific wikipedia articles so the general public can get a grasp on some of the complex things we study.
We could argue forever the percentage of the population that use imperial units (be that native english speaking population vs world population vs english speaking or whatever) but I think that's not addressing the issue. My main issue is readability. When an article has lots of conversions in brackets it looks and reads just awful! And scientific articles tend to have lots of numbers. Also though I ask the question does it convey any useful information? For example (and this was actually done until I removed it) the sun's density was quoted as "1.409 x 103 kg/m3 (1.88 x 102 lb/US gallon)". This was just bizarre and totally useless. Endless sets of scientific numbers with miles, pounds, short-tons and fahrenheit sitting in brackets makes an awful mess. Is that what you think is really needed?
As I stated in Moon:Talk previously saying something like "the nearest star is 4.3 light years (4.07 x 1013 km) away" is so much better than "the nearest star is 4.3 light years (4.07 x 1013 km, 2.52 x 1013 miles) away". In fact I'd be supportive of leaving off the conversion to km as well - provided that light-year had been properly defined.
I'm asking to consider your goal of presenting scientific information in a way the user can understand. I'm really really sure that the percentage of the world's population that has no knowledge of a km and simply *must* have it in miles otherwise they'll leave the article would be insignificantly small. They would certainly be in the US only (and Burma and Liberia) and wikipedia is a worldwide tool. Not just a US tool.
We are scientists, we do everything in SI, have done for decades and life is so much easier for it.
My thoughts anyway.
Regards, Jim77742 03:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. The policy is that for scientific articles SI only is recommended. With consensus, imperial units can be removed. Keeping all astronomical bodies similar, consensus has been reached by many others to keep imperial units out of astronomical articles. As a major moon contributor you are part of that consensus. I would urge you to consider the usefulness of adding earth-moon distance in miles. I agree one or two conversions doesn't add too much clutter but that may open the floodgates for adding conversions everywhere. Why do you consider it important to have the earth-moon distance in miles? I'm trying, but I struggle to see its usefulness. (I'd much rather see a conversion to astronomical units in parenthesis than miles.)
Regards, Jim77742 23:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Agree that article should not be addressed to scientists - but what I don't understand is why you don't consider SI as suitable for the masses? As you know they are so much easier to use. Regards, Jim77742 22:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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Glad to see you casting your expert eye again over things lunar .... Terry0051 ( talk) 17:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi I just have some question/suggestions on this article regarding the Moon and the possibility of water on it. This is the article : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lunar_water This article lacks a rating on the Importance Scale. I'm not sure how exactly to do that otherwise I would do it myself. Do you think you could add one?
By the way, do you happen to know if there is any water on the moon? Seeing as how you have a full time job studying the moon...-- Mark0528 ( talk) 20:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
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As a Moon expert, I wonder if you may any intimate knowledge of eclipses and just wanted to make you aware of the project. Cheers. -- TimL ( talk) 14:48, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
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You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Ging287 ( talk) 19:25, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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From one scientist to another, just wanted to say keep up the good work. Wiki needs more PhD editors reenforcing the facts on controversial topics.-- Shibbolethink ( ♔ ♕) 21:13, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
I'm still a relative newcomer here myself but I was happy to see your email on the Lunar listserve this afternoon. I too have been dismayed at the state of the Lunar information here. I hope your call for help brings a few more lunatics out of the woodwork to help clean this stuff up. IntrplnetSarah 20:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC) (aka Sarah Noble)
"Lunokhod": who are you to assign quality and importance ratings to articles? You assign "start-class" to many articles that have been developed for a long time and are stable and mature; also I did not see any references to a proper review or the criteria that led you to such a verdict: so I find it hard to take these classifications seriously. I believe essentially these are just your own personal, and not informed consensus, opinions. Nonetheless you boldly do put such official-looking assessments on the pages, possibly confusing or misleading readers. Tom Peters 12:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Can you send me the source of this picture? PSD or whatever.
I'd like to:
my mail is: eip at mail dot ru.
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I hereby present to you the Exceptional Newcomer Award. Lunokhod, you have shown exceptional enthusiasm, skill, and boldness, with your edits to the Moon-related articles, and setting up the Moon WikiProject. Well done! Mlm42 11:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC) |
You recently nominated for Apollo Moon Landing hoax accusations as a Good Article. I have looked at the article and don't feel that it meets the criteria for a good article at this time. I have explained my reasoning on the article's talk page. Thank you for your efforts and feel free to submit it again once the concerns have been addressed. Neil916 ( Talk) 06:19, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
Hi, any particular reason why you re-created Talk talk:Lunar phase after I had deleted Talk talk:lunar phase? Those pages shouldn't be there, the software thinks they are supposed to be articles if they don't start with the exact letter sequence "Talk:" I'd moved the comments on that first page to the proper Talk:Lunar phase, where they supposedly belong. -- Fut.Perf. ☼ 23:31, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
That was a perfectly good scholarly reference. Also, the newly revamped Double Planet article you linked to makes the same claim (only in more abstract terms) but is not referenced. I would appreciate a response on this; I plan to revert the change if no explanation is forthcoming. This article makes it perfectly clear that the Moon has a convex orbit around the Sun; it isn't simply a matter of relative gravitational pull. Serendipodous 13:32, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
The page on the Full moon cycle has been proposed for deletion. You recently added it to your WikiProject Moon, so you may wish to express an opinion whether it should stay or not. Tom Peters 15:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I took a look at Venus and Mercury. Confirmed my main point that criteria 1a and 1b are where the Moon article needs work: The featured articles have compelling prose, jargon explained, readily accessible to a non-specialist audience. The Venus article in particular has very nice writing, it just flows effortlessly, it doesn't put you to sleep or make your eyes cross. The introduction is particularly excellent, providing a nice basic overview. While still not super accessible to the third grader (!), at least the average parent can figure it out without needing a degree in physics! If we figure Wikipedia is more Britannica than World Book (which actually writes different articles to different reading levels based on what grades usually study a given subject, BTW), it works. In short, the biggest difference between Moon and the featured articles is in style and readability, though of the sections in Moon still need rearranging to flow more logically, even if you keep the "fun" stuff at the end the way the other articles do...hope this helps. Good luck! Montanabw 04:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
Lunokhod: regarding our controversy on the NOR policy: I submitted my case at the Village Pump. You probably want to respond. Tom Peters 14:27, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
You're disputing in good company. At least he has the class to give you a heads-up.
Here's a quicklink. I'm interested in hearing your take on this given the logic I'd applied before seeing your claim to a PHD.
I'd also suggested that out of respect for the holiday season, Tom Peters take his time in re-generating his derivations and tacking them into the talk or a subpage for inspection. They've been in place for a long while, so there is no hurry, as if it were new content under fire.
I'd prefer you both work on the English around the math in the iterim. It needs dumbed down so a 7th-8th grader can at least get the gist. Kudos on jumping in with both feet on the Moon Project, that's ballsy, given the learning curve and your newish status. If you have a question on generalities, etc., I'm on the
WP:Wc, and glad to lend an assist. Best regards, //
Fra
nkB
01:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
I have just given my reply here :) Count Iblis 23:40, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
Lunokhod: thanx for the reference suggestion on my talk page. I do have all Meeus's Morsels books: they provide various curiosa in celestial dynamics, but little on exactly how they were computed; in any case no new parameters or formulae. I asked Meeus but he replied that at his age (he is in his 70's) he does not consider updating his "Astronomical Algorithms". On our controversy on Original Research: I remain skeptical that any of this could be published in a common journal, especially since much of the stuff has been available in Wikipedia for some time. However, maybe the Academia Wikia is a proper place for digests of newer literature. I started a broad journal here. Would you spend time to referee such publications? Tom Peters 01:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
That eclipse cycle page is bizarre. People simply do not seem to understand that jargon makes articles inpenetrable. Have you considered asking for help from mediators? Dr. Submillimeter 20:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Would it be possible to make these footers collapse to a single line, as opposed to two lines? Also, is there a way to set the default as to whether the footer is initially open or collapsed? For the Moon footer, under most situations, think that it would be best to have this by default open. Lunokhod 00:44, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
class="collapsible"
) is controlled by an additional class (autocollapse & collapsed) if no additional classes are given the navbox remains open. Possibly the bet overview on the entire collapsing is the bottom table at {{
Navigational templates}}. To address you first point, I hope to fix the line break/resizing of the header when [hide] in the near future, for now I've provided a fix for most of the solar system template I've touched. --
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04:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
well, my edit summary says it all really. Do you tend to agree or disagree? If you disagree, you can just remove the template, I don't feel strongly about it. If you agree, we can just, like, do it :) dab (𒁳) 13:25, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I think I should be able to take care of that: specifically, I can run through the Category:moon stubs and find everything tagged with both {{ moon-stub}} and {{ crater-stub}} and replace it with {{ moon-crater-stub}}. I don't know how many that'll get though: there's probably many tagged with one or the other, that ought to have had both, biut didn't. Alai 23:40, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
I have found two reputable authorities for the Basin Groups Stage as a subdivision of the Pre-Nectarian. Take a look at the GeoWhen database and Harland, Walter Brian , et al. (1989) A Geologic Time Scale 1989 Cambridge University Press, Cambridge, UK, Fig. 1.7 on page 10, available via Google books, which shows both Basin Groups and Cryptic. Unfortunately the textual discussion is not available as part of the Google offering. I do realize that at present these subdivisions remain more theoretical than real, as many lunar deposits are still just lumped together as Pre-Imbrian age materials, which may account for the absence of mention of Basin Groups in Wilhelms' book and Martel's article. -- Bejnar 01:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I did not graft lunar timescale onto the Earth. I am only reporting what has happened in the literature. We do not do original research here. If you don't like the fact that some people in the field of geology have decided that the early histories of the Moon and the Earth are close enough to each other that the same time scale is appropriate, take it up with them in the appropriate forum, which is not Wikipedia. The fact that the Devonian was first established in England, did not stop geologists from using it in the New World. As editors we don't dictate what goes into science, we report what scientists say, in their publications. Please do not remove properly cited reliable information just because "This is really bizarre." and you think that it isn't the way things should be done. Do try to get a hold of a copy of Harland, Walter Brian , et al. (1989) A Geologic Time Scale 1989 and read what he has to say in the text portion. It is not selenologists who are using these subdivisions, it is geologists, probably mostly cosmologists, so it is not surprising that these subdivisions are not mentioned in Wilhelms' book and Martel's article about the Moon. -- Bejnar 18:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
George Gamov to Immanuel Velikovsky. Nothing against geochemists, especially John P. Marble.(c.1900-1955). "were at least trained in terrestrial geology before specializing in planetary geology. (The converse is generally not true.)" I agree, Armstrong had not even landed on the moon when I took most of my geology and mineralogy coursework. I did take Strat. & Sed. afterwards. -- Bejnar 23:20, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I just started using popups, for my reverts or edits using them, should i add in that i used them, or does it happen automatically? DUBJAY04 23:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
The article Transient lunar phenomenon you nominated as a good article has passed , see Talk:Transient lunar phenomenon for eventual comments about the article. Good luck in future nominations.--JEF 03:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed your recent interest in this article. If you have a chance to look it over more carefully, please see my comments in Talk:Allais effect. In short, the article is misleading in its present state and needs rewriting. More than that, unfortunately, it seems to need constant watching to prevent it from being repeatedly skewed by pseudoscience fans. —Steven G. Johnson 01:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I'd like to ask you to honor your agreement to "withdraw your AfD nomination" on presnetation of "reputable references showing that this topic meets wikipedia's notability criteria". I've done my part, let's see whether you are acting in good faith. Gravitor 20:09, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
I believe you are in violation of Wikipedia:Conflict of interest guidelines in your crusade against factual information about the US government Moon program. You are, by your own admission, an employee of the US govt Moon program. Please respond with the steps you are willing to voluntarily take to rectify this, including following through with your previous assurances, or I will be forced to make a formal complaint. In particular, these guidelines call on users to
Hi Mr/ Miss Lunokhod,
I am aware that you are an expert in planetary science, recommended by Dr. Submillimeter. As a member of Wikipedia:WikiProject Abandoned Articles, i was wondering if you would possibly be interested in the article: Caves of Mars Project. This article is currently tagged as Articles which need to be adopted. This is a collaborative effort to improve visitation to abandoned articles. Thanks! Luffy487 12:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
I share your concerns that they might still be the same guy even though the admin concluded that they weren't. The fact is that their approach to this subject makes them nearly indistinguishable from each other. But if he/they get too belligerent (again, like last summer) we can "take them to court", as it were. I have pretty much shyed away from the "independent evidence" page, because (as I stated there, and which Gravitor seemed not even to notice), I don't trust that character's motives. So I'm waiting to see what he comes up with. Then we'll see if Carfiend comes in and says, "See, there's no real evidence", as I suspect Gravitor's agenda is. What a hassle. Just imagine what the Theory of Evolution page must be like. Wahkeenah 13:12, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Independent evidence for Apollo Moon landings. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please read WP:3RR and use the talk page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gravitor ( talk • contribs)
Would there be any reason for an "independent evidence" article if hoax accusations didn't exist? It seems to be that one is the answer to the other, and I see no need for two articles about such silly accusations when one would do. - Nunh-huh 20:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Lunokhod! Of course the name of the Moon is Luna. Like we live on Tellus. We live on Earth most of us also, but some live on water. Rursus 20:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
with the greatest respect Khabibullo Ismailovich Abdusamatov, however wrong and idiotic, is now notable and really should be linked, if only to avoid edit warring with hordes of MGW advocates. By the way, great username, kind regards sbandrews 19:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your additions to to orbits template. — Swpb talk contribs 00:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Gravitor, you have been making a series of personal attacks ( WP:NPA) and uncivil comments ( WP:Civility) that are in violation of wikipedia policy. I am going to ask kindly, once again, that you refrain from doing so.
As examples,
Your editing behavior is also very disruptive ( WP:DE).
I think you get the point. I understand that this debate has become a bit heated, and that other users could perhaps be accused of making a personal attack from time to time, but you are displaying the worst behaviour of anyone that I have interacted with on Wikipedia since joining the community. I really would prefer not to take administrative action because (1) it is a waste of my time, and (2) should not be necessary considering that we are both adults (I am assuming that if you actually played the game gravitor, that you are far from being an adolescent teen). I am asking once again that you please try to remain calm when participating in debates and attempt to be civil. Lunokhod 17:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Gravitor 09:43, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thanks for your note on my talk page; this is an issue i have been hoping to address for some time.. your work is much appreciated! :) Mlm42 10:38, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi Lunokhod, I am going to be fairly busy IRL in the next couple of days, and will not be able to invest the needed time to do a good job on the merge closing. Thanks for your understanding, Crum375 14:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi, and thanks very much for the note you left on my talk page. I'm honored. I took a look at the discussion concerning "Proposed merge of Independent evidence for Apollo Moon landings into Apollo Moon Landing Hoax Accusations" and, woah man, that's quite a discussion! It'll take a little while to sift through before I could make an intelligent comment. But, thanks again! Petersoncello 15:43, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
All of the articles on quakes, besides of course earthquake were stubs. I've merged them to the main quake articles, where they can grow and then when they get long enough, they can be separate articles. Voortle 13:24, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry for the yelling. Please, next time inform me on my talk page if you have a comment on my behavior. I think that we would both agree that would be a more appropriate strategy. Lunokhod 19:55, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Lunokhod! Thank you kindly for your feedback. On documentation (mi|num vs. milnum), adding spaces on both sides of the pipe character should probably minimize the confusion→{{km to mi | num=...}}. I'll go through the documentation and fix it.
I also have no problem with creating additional templates (such as km to AU, kps to mph, etc.). Just let me know which are the priority and which ones exactly you need. I figured that units of length, area, and temperature were a no-brainer, so I made those first, but I have no clue as to what else people might want and/or use regularly.
Finally, regarding people pre-formatting the numbers, I am afraid this is not something that can be addressed. You see, the set of functions available for template creation is extremely limited; it is certainly not even close to what's available in a full-fledged programming language. We can only hope that when someone passes a pre-formatted number as a template parameter, s/he would double-check the result, see that it generates an error, make the corrections accordingly (and never pass pre-formatted numbers to a template parameter again :)). In any case, it is probably a point worth including into documentation, so I will do that as well.
Let me know if you have any further concerns and/or suggestions, please. Best,— Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • ( yo?); 22:52, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi, sorry I didn't respond to your message. I was on something of an informal wikibreak, as I had started back at uni for the year. I'm not sure I really want to wade into the debate, since it could take an afternoon of reading to get to the bottom of it. And now the article is protected. Evil Monkey - Hello 03:30, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
Greetings, you might be interested in Lunarpedia a public resource of the Moon society. Charles 01:46, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Just to let you know, the image you uploaded, Image:MoonStructure.jpg, has been submitted to the Graphic Lab for conversion to SVG. This request has been processed, and if you would like to comment on the new version, or offer feedback, the request can be seen here. - YK Times 18:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Please add comments: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Carfiend. I think that the evidence is pretty strong: they act in tandem, tag team, and have very similar editorial styles. -- ScienceApologist 01:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, I notice your desire to put imperial units of measurement in the Moon article, but yet you state you dislike them. I notice you state you have a Ph.D (in science presumably) and I myself am doing a Masters in astrophysics studying pulsars. Like you, I also like improving scientific wikipedia articles so the general public can get a grasp on some of the complex things we study.
We could argue forever the percentage of the population that use imperial units (be that native english speaking population vs world population vs english speaking or whatever) but I think that's not addressing the issue. My main issue is readability. When an article has lots of conversions in brackets it looks and reads just awful! And scientific articles tend to have lots of numbers. Also though I ask the question does it convey any useful information? For example (and this was actually done until I removed it) the sun's density was quoted as "1.409 x 103 kg/m3 (1.88 x 102 lb/US gallon)". This was just bizarre and totally useless. Endless sets of scientific numbers with miles, pounds, short-tons and fahrenheit sitting in brackets makes an awful mess. Is that what you think is really needed?
As I stated in Moon:Talk previously saying something like "the nearest star is 4.3 light years (4.07 x 1013 km) away" is so much better than "the nearest star is 4.3 light years (4.07 x 1013 km, 2.52 x 1013 miles) away". In fact I'd be supportive of leaving off the conversion to km as well - provided that light-year had been properly defined.
I'm asking to consider your goal of presenting scientific information in a way the user can understand. I'm really really sure that the percentage of the world's population that has no knowledge of a km and simply *must* have it in miles otherwise they'll leave the article would be insignificantly small. They would certainly be in the US only (and Burma and Liberia) and wikipedia is a worldwide tool. Not just a US tool.
We are scientists, we do everything in SI, have done for decades and life is so much easier for it.
My thoughts anyway.
Regards, Jim77742 03:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply. The policy is that for scientific articles SI only is recommended. With consensus, imperial units can be removed. Keeping all astronomical bodies similar, consensus has been reached by many others to keep imperial units out of astronomical articles. As a major moon contributor you are part of that consensus. I would urge you to consider the usefulness of adding earth-moon distance in miles. I agree one or two conversions doesn't add too much clutter but that may open the floodgates for adding conversions everywhere. Why do you consider it important to have the earth-moon distance in miles? I'm trying, but I struggle to see its usefulness. (I'd much rather see a conversion to astronomical units in parenthesis than miles.)
Regards, Jim77742 23:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
Agree that article should not be addressed to scientists - but what I don't understand is why you don't consider SI as suitable for the masses? As you know they are so much easier to use. Regards, Jim77742 22:14, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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By the way, do you happen to know if there is any water on the moon? Seeing as how you have a full time job studying the moon...-- Mark0528 ( talk) 20:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
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As a Moon expert, I wonder if you may any intimate knowledge of eclipses and just wanted to make you aware of the project. Cheers. -- TimL ( talk) 14:48, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
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I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Anoncoin for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.
If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.
You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Ging287 ( talk) 19:25, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
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