Hey bread Nija, you still need help on the GITS article? If so post the link here please. -- Necrojesta ( talk) 18:51, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you know, per bold revert discuss, if a template you placed on an article is reverted, it's not appropriate to reinstate it. The appropriate thing to do is to go to the article's talk page and explain why you feel it's necessary. -- Malkinann ( talk) 19:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I would suggest that you leave discussing things for a time, and find something to do that's a bit more exopedian - like looking up in your Angelic Days books for development information at the back, or reading something in the further reading sections around the Evangelion articles (or any other article in Wikipedia) and add it into that article as a source. Discussing improvements to the article does not actually entail improving an article, and sometimes gets in the way of improving articles by inducing editor fatigue. Can you imagine if we had to previously discuss every single edit we make? No-one would ever get anything done. -- Malkinann ( talk) 21:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
That's the point.
I'm a recent user and can't edit the page.
Because it, i ask you to do this, sorry =( -- Ekans La Cobra ( talk) 17:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I've fixed up your AFD on the Eureka 7 game - please read WP:AFDHOWTO for advice as to how to list an AFD properly. (I messed up my first AFD too, so don't feel alone in this.) If you don't follow the procedure on the AFD page, people won't know the article is up for discussion, and so the article probably won't be deleted. Hope this helps. :) -- Malkinann ( talk) 21:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
You've got a warning. Do it again and you'll be reported. - Zhang He ( talk) 16:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I am working with admin Lar on the BLPs that are within the scope of Bemani music video games and already knew about the AfD for Terra (group). Thanks for letting me know though. æron phone home 17:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
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Don't make threats to start edit wars on articles. The matter was discussed and opposed during the Request for Move. Get over it, the article won't be moved against consensus. on camera (t) 00:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok, fair enough. Thanks for looking for your books. :) -- Malkinann ( talk) 19:49, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't know or care who's right here; talk it out. You're both in the wrong. Half Shadow 19:11, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Bread Ninja
As far as the work required on 2nd GIG goes, what it needs above all else is a summary. As it stands, there is a discussion of the setting of the story but no actual word of what the story is. A plot summary would redress this imbalance. GitS:SAC is essentially about the Laughing Man case: what is 2nd GIG about?
Thanks BlackMarlin ( talk) 17:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
hi, i was just wondering if you could help out make the article into tracklist format. the format it is in now, is odd and hard to understand. also additional reference of where you found these tracklist is good too. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:45, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Bread Ninja. (Great username, by the way!) Thank you for your comment at Wikipedia:Peer review/The Open Boat/archive1, but I wanted to correct your misconception regarding refs in plot summaries; citations are not necessary unless the summary includes critical opinion, interpretation, direct quotes, or anything similarly questionable. Per WP:PLOTSUM—and as can be seen in various Featured Articles dedicated to works of fiction ( To Kill a Mockingbird, Mary: A Fiction, etc.)—if a plot summary is solely a plot summary, the reference is obviously the work itself, and no other citation is needed. I hope this helps, María ( habla con migo) 19:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I thought they were your "brother"'s comments? Either way, I didn't remove them, I moved them to the PR's talk page. Let it rest. María ( habla con migo) 16:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
You're right, the article deserves more than Start-class. Typically, you can request a reassessment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/Requests. A Good Article rating would have to go through the WP:GAN process.
I'm not sure if Tintor plans to go for GA or not. If so, then he may not care about a reassessment right now. I know I don't when I prep C-class or lower articles for GA. ( Guyinblack25 talk 19:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC))
WP:AFDHOWTO will tell you everything you need to know about starting an AFD. Please read it and have a go - Collectonian or an administrator can help you fix up the AFD listing if there's any problems. -- Malkinann ( talk) 21:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not interested in anything until July. Until then, I would suggest you try to improve the articles as they are and ask the video games project for help. -- Malkinann ( talk) 20:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
The part of WP:MOS-AM that I was talking about is in the section "Article names and disambiguation". It says:
"In general, do not create separate articles for a different medium belonging to the same franchise, unless:
Alexius08 ( talk) 02:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi BN, there's been a complaint from Donald Duck that you're posting on his talk page after he asked you not to. While there's no ownership of user talk pages, there's nevertheless a presumption in favour of the user being allowed to determine who is welcome there (within reason). If he removes your post, it means he has seen it, so there's no need to post it again. And if he asks you to stop, it's best to do it. If problems continue, perhaps you could ask others for input, rather than dealing with it yourself. I'm writing this with no knowledge of the background, by the way, so this request shouldn't be interpreted as an opinion of who's right or wrong about the specific issue. Cheers, SlimVirgin talk contribs 16:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate you letting me know. Are all the albums being consolidated into a list article for notability reasons? -- BrokenSphere Msg me 19:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I just felt that it should of been better discussed before making drastic changes. The merged new article is missing a lot of information such as track listings, cd staffs, and album art. I feel that perhaps we can work to expand the existing album pages and make them better suit the notability guidelines. I've been doing what I can to contribute. NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! ( talk) 01:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC) Okay, I understand. It was just that the last time I viewed the page it was as it was and then the next time I viewed it, they were all merged and I didn't know what was going on. The pages have been really helpful to me and I used them to find out information when I was listening to the music. The main reason I would go back to the page would be to obtain the album art too. It was probably my favorite thing about the article. NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! ( talk) 00:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
-- uKER ( talk) 02:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm upset to see that you've axed what I feel to be an important part of the article, and also that you could not find a place to put File:Major Kusangi.jpg. Since I have no desire to argue with the people who insist on eliminating our fiction-based articles one section at a time, I will merely note that in the future I would like to be informed of the removal of any fair use images like the one cited above that were uploaded by me. I would rather delete said images before the bots on site leave that message about such images being nominated for deletion, as such automated messages depress me immensely. TomStar81 ( Talk) 19:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Re: Collapsed track listing now implemented. Is this what you after? Memphisto ( talk) 13:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I already gave my opinion about it. Better comment it in the project. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
Just to drop you this link. The French version of Pandara Hearts was launched during the French Japan Expo and its French published did it great. Unfortunately i'm not among the very very lucky few who got the chance to meet the mangaka during the event. -- KrebMarkt 19:14, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I know we've had our ups and downs, but I wanted to thank you for agreeing with me about the colon. - Donald Duck ( talk) 18:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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Fixing double redirects, which is what I believe you were talking about, is necessary. Even though there are bots that will find them eventually and fix them it's just good form to make sure you forwards any existing redirects to the new page name once you've moved a page. æron phone home 17:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to be completely honest with you. Whenever you say anything, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't understand your logic or thought processes at all. Saying "related media" means exactly what it says: media that is related. It should specifically disallow "other media that isn't directly related" implicitly. Axem Titanium ( talk) 23:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello Bread Ninja. My editing had almost ceased over the last few weeks/months and I apologize for the long time it has taken me to get back to you. I read the discussion you related on my talk page and was wondering how everything was going. Not just with that, but how you are generally doing with other editing and such. Your talk page looks pretty active, so it appears obvious you've been in the trenches :) Calmer Waters 08:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I think the article still belongs to Portal:Anime and Manga. :| TelCo NaSp Ve :| 01:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank You, Bread Ninja, for caring about me and welcoming me to Wikipedia. Unfortunately I've been here for quite a while now, perhaps even longer than yourself, and I am already well aware of the rules of Wikipedia. I wasn't, however, aware that deleting large portions of text and images from articles without discussing it first was part of the "rules." If anything, I think it is best to edit information so it better suits Wikipedia's standards instead of deleting information that could be considered valuable to others.
I can see that obviously our editing styles differ and I don't want there to be any misunderstanding or hostility between us. As with everybody, I always try to assume good faith and see the best in every one.
WP:Faith
I hope that his clears or settles anything between us and that we can remain friendly and positive towards each other. I wish to be nothing but your friend.
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
talk)
16:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Well I understand regarding the Tachikoma page, that doesn't really bother me.
But with main articles and the soundtrack page, if we can't have duplicate information, why do we even have a soundtrack page? Wouldn't it be easier for the reader if the information was right there on each page. And there are people such as myself that think images are an important addition to Wikipedia and find them in articles to be helpful. And also, when you deleted the soundtrack sections from the main articles, you didn't provide a link to the soundtrack page, which was your reason for deleting them in the first place.
And regarding deleting images, I feel that it should be discussed first before permanently deleting them from Wikipedia when other people went through the trouble of uploading them. If anything, I feel that they should be removed from the page, and not the actual file deleted. The image files could be useful to others or be used on other pages.
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
talk)
01:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
We're obviously not getting anywhere with this.
"i don't find images helpful when it comes to soundtracks. its really not necessary to have an image of a album cover" That is your personal opinion. Just because you don't think it's helpful doesn't mean others don't as well. I assume that other people find it helpful because almost every soundtrack page I visit has a picture of the album cover on it.
What I was trying to say was, if we didn't have a main soundtrack page, there would be no reason to delete the smaller sections on the original articles. I don't think anyone was complaining about them being on the original articles.
But if you insist on keeping the main soundtrack page, perhaps we could have a small summary on the original page and then have a link to the main article which will feature more information. For example:
Ghost_in_the_Shell_SAC#Music
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
talk)
06:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Please don't remove it. I think it's fine the way it is. We don't need to have all the mini albums and singles. Just one image of the main album. NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! ( talk) 06:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes. I believe that would be best.
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
talk)
03:30, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Nope. It appears it was released only like the one from List of Rurouni Kenshin chapters. Even the Argentinian release had the cover in such format. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:02, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! Much appreciated! :) Fox816 ( talk) 03:46, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Here is what the dictionary says;
Proposal:
proposal |prəˈpōzəl| noun 1 a plan or suggestion, esp. a formal or written one, put forward for consideration or discussion by others : a set of proposals for a major new high-speed rail link.
Ultimatum:
ultimatum |ˌəltəˈmātəm; -ˈmät-| noun ( pl. -matums or -mata |-ˈmātə; -ˈmätə|) a final demand or statement of terms, the rejection of which will result in retaliation or a breakdown in relations : the UN Security Council ultimatum demanding Iraq's withdrawal from Kuwait | a “Marry me or else” ultimatum.
Since there was no room for discussion or argument or negotiation in what Vicious said to Julia, that makes it an ultimatum. That was the best word to begin with, it should stay that way.
Someone who is not a native speaker of English won't have much trouble with translating the meaning, and pretty much all native English speakers understand the difference. If they don't, there are dictionaries. :) Thanks! --MrsSpooky 21:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsSpooky ( talk • contribs)
MrsSpooky 22:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsSpooky ( talk • contribs)
"Are you going to kill him?" "No you are. Either he dies or you both die." <--does that sound like a proposal to you? --MrsSpooky 02:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsSpooky ( talk • contribs)
It's not in the damned template. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Are you blind? Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 23:33, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Please see the ongoing discussion in Talk:Cloud Strife and read the actual article. It is not a comparison, it is a fantasy casting for a movie which is not even taking place, which violates the WP:CRYSTAL policy. And as other users point out in the talk above, it violates neutrality, WP:UNDUE and trivia. 68.55.153.254 ( talk) 23:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I only agreed with PresN about going for the first (and thus with all). Also, it's kind of obvious that I did not mean that, considering I put it next PresN's comment. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I think that the quotes in the Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime) article are in general, a good thing, as long as it doesn't fall into copyright violation of the original source. The 'so sick' comment, in particular, could not be made any more succinct than it is. Perhaps it would be useful to have a peer review on the article, as the last peer review was in 2007, IIRC? Or even getting the article to B-class would be an achievement - there are 750 C-class anime articles, but less than 200 B-class. WP:AFDHOWTO should explain everything you need to know about AFDing an article, but it would be a very good idea if WP:BEFORE were followed first, or if you were to contact your adopter and ask for their advice. -- Malkinann ( talk) 00:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't feel it's a good idea to start up another discussion before the first one has been resolved. Please get in contact with your adopter about this. -- Malkinann ( talk) 00:46, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Okay thanks for starting a discussion and not just delete the winners, cuz the winners have been posted up there for almost 2 years already and no one seemed to remove them, so I thought that you can't just remove them like that without letting people know, and if they still agree with you 24.205.28.18 ( talk) 19:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Seems to be working for me; I put in {{Mobile Suit Gundam|MS=MSZG}} and I get the template with the first group as Zeta Gundam-specific. Same thing for {{Universal Century|MS=MSZG}}. -- Pres N 16:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I didn't make much progress with those articles so I don't what resources are good. If your Japanese is up to par, you can try doing google searches of some of the reliable Japanese websites like newspapers and media sites. Sorry that doesn't help much, but I'm not sure where else to check. ( Guyinblack25 talk 21:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC))
Have you ever considered participating at WP:GAR? It's a good way to learn what makes an article GA-quality, and there's always a variety of articles to review. I found that having some experience there helped my confidence when I went to submit my first GA. -- Malkinann ( talk) 00:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Anime and manga are fairly common terms in North America, seiyū is not. Anime, while originally meaning Japanese animation, has taken on its own meaning of Japanese-style animation, though this isn't entirely accurate either. Similarly with manga. There even exist western anime and manga. Not so with seiyū. Seiyū simply means Japanese voice actor, that's all. There are some quirks to voice acting in Japan not found elsewhere, but the terms are essentially synonymous. There is no relevant information lost by referring to Japanese voice actors as such, especially with such phrases as "… performed by various seiyū - or voice actors - from the anime series …". How is the use of a Japanese word at all clarifying? There was still the link to voice acting in Japan for anyone interested.
I was also taking a lead from the discussion here. I think the key point is that anime articles on Wikipedia are still intended for all Wikipedia readers, not just the anime subculture. – mpdimitroff ( talk · contribs) 06:39, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey Bread Ninja. I see you've removed a lot of content from the article. Don't you feel some of it should have been kept for future reference in the "Talk" page? While there is trivia among these, someone might find it useful at some point. If you're adamant about simply getting rid of it, could you please point towards a Help page that recommend this line of conduct? That would help me understand certain editing policies I'm unfamiliar with (because there are just too many of them!). Thanks.
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What happened to the page? There used to be a character chart like the one on the Dissidia: Final Fantasy page, but now it's gone. Worse, there's unsourced material, like Vaan's inclusion, that has yet to be officially - if at all - confirmed. The page difinitely needs reworking, and I'd do it, but I don't know where to start. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 16:07, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello ! I left a message on the AfD page, but my request for help in finding sources at Wp:Anime failed, there doesn't seem to be any reliable source even in japanese, and no one seems to know the books.
I agree with you that the article would be acceptable with enough sources, but that could be said of all articles. The real question is whether there is any source, and thus whether the subject is notable or not. It seems obvious now that the subject isn't notable. Folken de Fanel ( talk) 08:57, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
You are correct. If it can't be helped, then there is no choice. But for something like this article it just appears to be more difficult to do considering it's a novel relating to anime and manga but not exactly within the criteria. SO finding a regular reliable source is nearly impossible to find unless we start hunting for these specific sources to see if they have any coverage on this topic. but at the moment it has no sources. it has to be deleted then so be it. I saved the information on a special page, in case i find an sources after it gets deleted. Bread Ninja ( talk) 09:08, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I'll try to do my best to help out with the article. There's been a recent revival of interest in the series, so I'm more than happy to help with editing. When I have some time later, I'll update the article a bit more. Bokan
Concerning the TYPE in the infobox for the be Human release at Music of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, there is an issue with using "mini album" because that is not a TYPE, but something within "Other" which is a type. See this: Category:Album articles with non-standard infoboxes. For that field in the infobox, there should be one of the categories listed in that page, which could be Other, or maybe Soundtrack or EP or even Compilation as I thought at first. But in any case, there is a problem with "mini album" because it's not a TYPE value in itself, but something that falls within Other and can therefore be discussed in the text (outside of the infobox). -- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 17:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I have switched the boxart back to the logo. Your argument about the cast is not a solid one- there would not be justification for a non-free cast image, and so we can't use that as a justification for a non-free image in the lead instead of a free one. As far as I can see, the logo has three major advantages. First and formost, it is freely licensed, and free media should always be preferred. Secondly, unlike the single box art, it represents the entire series. Thirdly, it is consistent with other series articles. To draw a comparison, using that non-free box art in the lead instead of the free logo is like using a non-free publicity photo of a member of a band in the article about the band as a whole, instead of using a free logo used by the band; that idea is ludicrous, and there's no real difference between the two. J Milburn ( talk) 13:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
The fact you don't see NFC as the main issue is perhaps the crux of the disagreement. The NFC policies are very strict and important, and have to be taken seriously. J Milburn ( talk) 14:00, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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The Anime and Manga BarnSakura Award |
I award you this BarnSakura in recondition of your contributions to anime and manga articles during 2010 and because everyone deserves a little recondition every once in a while. ;) — Farix ( t | c) 01:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC) |
oh wow thank you! i never thought i'd win one of these. i'm very grateful. Bread Ninja ( talk) 01:03, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
Hey bread Nija, you still need help on the GITS article? If so post the link here please. -- Necrojesta ( talk) 18:51, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you know, per bold revert discuss, if a template you placed on an article is reverted, it's not appropriate to reinstate it. The appropriate thing to do is to go to the article's talk page and explain why you feel it's necessary. -- Malkinann ( talk) 19:15, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
I would suggest that you leave discussing things for a time, and find something to do that's a bit more exopedian - like looking up in your Angelic Days books for development information at the back, or reading something in the further reading sections around the Evangelion articles (or any other article in Wikipedia) and add it into that article as a source. Discussing improvements to the article does not actually entail improving an article, and sometimes gets in the way of improving articles by inducing editor fatigue. Can you imagine if we had to previously discuss every single edit we make? No-one would ever get anything done. -- Malkinann ( talk) 21:22, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
That's the point.
I'm a recent user and can't edit the page.
Because it, i ask you to do this, sorry =( -- Ekans La Cobra ( talk) 17:19, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
I've fixed up your AFD on the Eureka 7 game - please read WP:AFDHOWTO for advice as to how to list an AFD properly. (I messed up my first AFD too, so don't feel alone in this.) If you don't follow the procedure on the AFD page, people won't know the article is up for discussion, and so the article probably won't be deleted. Hope this helps. :) -- Malkinann ( talk) 21:54, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
You've got a warning. Do it again and you'll be reported. - Zhang He ( talk) 16:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
I am working with admin Lar on the BLPs that are within the scope of Bemani music video games and already knew about the AfD for Terra (group). Thanks for letting me know though. æron phone home 17:34, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
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Don't make threats to start edit wars on articles. The matter was discussed and opposed during the Request for Move. Get over it, the article won't be moved against consensus. on camera (t) 00:30, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
Ok, fair enough. Thanks for looking for your books. :) -- Malkinann ( talk) 19:49, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
I don't know or care who's right here; talk it out. You're both in the wrong. Half Shadow 19:11, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Bread Ninja
As far as the work required on 2nd GIG goes, what it needs above all else is a summary. As it stands, there is a discussion of the setting of the story but no actual word of what the story is. A plot summary would redress this imbalance. GitS:SAC is essentially about the Laughing Man case: what is 2nd GIG about?
Thanks BlackMarlin ( talk) 17:23, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
hi, i was just wondering if you could help out make the article into tracklist format. the format it is in now, is odd and hard to understand. also additional reference of where you found these tracklist is good too. Bread Ninja ( talk) 15:45, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
Hello, Bread Ninja. (Great username, by the way!) Thank you for your comment at Wikipedia:Peer review/The Open Boat/archive1, but I wanted to correct your misconception regarding refs in plot summaries; citations are not necessary unless the summary includes critical opinion, interpretation, direct quotes, or anything similarly questionable. Per WP:PLOTSUM—and as can be seen in various Featured Articles dedicated to works of fiction ( To Kill a Mockingbird, Mary: A Fiction, etc.)—if a plot summary is solely a plot summary, the reference is obviously the work itself, and no other citation is needed. I hope this helps, María ( habla con migo) 19:20, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
I thought they were your "brother"'s comments? Either way, I didn't remove them, I moved them to the PR's talk page. Let it rest. María ( habla con migo) 16:35, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
You're right, the article deserves more than Start-class. Typically, you can request a reassessment at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/Requests. A Good Article rating would have to go through the WP:GAN process.
I'm not sure if Tintor plans to go for GA or not. If so, then he may not care about a reassessment right now. I know I don't when I prep C-class or lower articles for GA. ( Guyinblack25 talk 19:33, 24 March 2010 (UTC))
WP:AFDHOWTO will tell you everything you need to know about starting an AFD. Please read it and have a go - Collectonian or an administrator can help you fix up the AFD listing if there's any problems. -- Malkinann ( talk) 21:28, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, I'm not interested in anything until July. Until then, I would suggest you try to improve the articles as they are and ask the video games project for help. -- Malkinann ( talk) 20:11, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
The part of WP:MOS-AM that I was talking about is in the section "Article names and disambiguation". It says:
"In general, do not create separate articles for a different medium belonging to the same franchise, unless:
Alexius08 ( talk) 02:58, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi BN, there's been a complaint from Donald Duck that you're posting on his talk page after he asked you not to. While there's no ownership of user talk pages, there's nevertheless a presumption in favour of the user being allowed to determine who is welcome there (within reason). If he removes your post, it means he has seen it, so there's no need to post it again. And if he asks you to stop, it's best to do it. If problems continue, perhaps you could ask others for input, rather than dealing with it yourself. I'm writing this with no knowledge of the background, by the way, so this request shouldn't be interpreted as an opinion of who's right or wrong about the specific issue. Cheers, SlimVirgin talk contribs 16:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
I appreciate you letting me know. Are all the albums being consolidated into a list article for notability reasons? -- BrokenSphere Msg me 19:44, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Hello. I just felt that it should of been better discussed before making drastic changes. The merged new article is missing a lot of information such as track listings, cd staffs, and album art. I feel that perhaps we can work to expand the existing album pages and make them better suit the notability guidelines. I've been doing what I can to contribute. NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! ( talk) 01:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC) Okay, I understand. It was just that the last time I viewed the page it was as it was and then the next time I viewed it, they were all merged and I didn't know what was going on. The pages have been really helpful to me and I used them to find out information when I was listening to the music. The main reason I would go back to the page would be to obtain the album art too. It was probably my favorite thing about the article. NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! ( talk) 00:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
-- uKER ( talk) 02:31, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
I'm upset to see that you've axed what I feel to be an important part of the article, and also that you could not find a place to put File:Major Kusangi.jpg. Since I have no desire to argue with the people who insist on eliminating our fiction-based articles one section at a time, I will merely note that in the future I would like to be informed of the removal of any fair use images like the one cited above that were uploaded by me. I would rather delete said images before the bots on site leave that message about such images being nominated for deletion, as such automated messages depress me immensely. TomStar81 ( Talk) 19:27, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
Re: Collapsed track listing now implemented. Is this what you after? Memphisto ( talk) 13:21, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I already gave my opinion about it. Better comment it in the project. Tintor2 ( talk) 21:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi,
Just to drop you this link. The French version of Pandara Hearts was launched during the French Japan Expo and its French published did it great. Unfortunately i'm not among the very very lucky few who got the chance to meet the mangaka during the event. -- KrebMarkt 19:14, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
I know we've had our ups and downs, but I wanted to thank you for agreeing with me about the colon. - Donald Duck ( talk) 18:14, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
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Fixing double redirects, which is what I believe you were talking about, is necessary. Even though there are bots that will find them eventually and fix them it's just good form to make sure you forwards any existing redirects to the new page name once you've moved a page. æron phone home 17:07, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to be completely honest with you. Whenever you say anything, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't understand your logic or thought processes at all. Saying "related media" means exactly what it says: media that is related. It should specifically disallow "other media that isn't directly related" implicitly. Axem Titanium ( talk) 23:41, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello Bread Ninja. My editing had almost ceased over the last few weeks/months and I apologize for the long time it has taken me to get back to you. I read the discussion you related on my talk page and was wondering how everything was going. Not just with that, but how you are generally doing with other editing and such. Your talk page looks pretty active, so it appears obvious you've been in the trenches :) Calmer Waters 08:32, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
I think the article still belongs to Portal:Anime and Manga. :| TelCo NaSp Ve :| 01:06, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
Thank You, Bread Ninja, for caring about me and welcoming me to Wikipedia. Unfortunately I've been here for quite a while now, perhaps even longer than yourself, and I am already well aware of the rules of Wikipedia. I wasn't, however, aware that deleting large portions of text and images from articles without discussing it first was part of the "rules." If anything, I think it is best to edit information so it better suits Wikipedia's standards instead of deleting information that could be considered valuable to others.
I can see that obviously our editing styles differ and I don't want there to be any misunderstanding or hostility between us. As with everybody, I always try to assume good faith and see the best in every one.
WP:Faith
I hope that his clears or settles anything between us and that we can remain friendly and positive towards each other. I wish to be nothing but your friend.
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
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16:33, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
Well I understand regarding the Tachikoma page, that doesn't really bother me.
But with main articles and the soundtrack page, if we can't have duplicate information, why do we even have a soundtrack page? Wouldn't it be easier for the reader if the information was right there on each page. And there are people such as myself that think images are an important addition to Wikipedia and find them in articles to be helpful. And also, when you deleted the soundtrack sections from the main articles, you didn't provide a link to the soundtrack page, which was your reason for deleting them in the first place.
And regarding deleting images, I feel that it should be discussed first before permanently deleting them from Wikipedia when other people went through the trouble of uploading them. If anything, I feel that they should be removed from the page, and not the actual file deleted. The image files could be useful to others or be used on other pages.
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
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01:56, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
We're obviously not getting anywhere with this.
"i don't find images helpful when it comes to soundtracks. its really not necessary to have an image of a album cover" That is your personal opinion. Just because you don't think it's helpful doesn't mean others don't as well. I assume that other people find it helpful because almost every soundtrack page I visit has a picture of the album cover on it.
What I was trying to say was, if we didn't have a main soundtrack page, there would be no reason to delete the smaller sections on the original articles. I don't think anyone was complaining about them being on the original articles.
But if you insist on keeping the main soundtrack page, perhaps we could have a small summary on the original page and then have a link to the main article which will feature more information. For example:
Ghost_in_the_Shell_SAC#Music
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
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06:04, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Please don't remove it. I think it's fine the way it is. We don't need to have all the mini albums and singles. Just one image of the main album. NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! ( talk) 06:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
Yes. I believe that would be best.
NewYorkStyledCheesecakes! (
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03:30, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
Nope. It appears it was released only like the one from List of Rurouni Kenshin chapters. Even the Argentinian release had the cover in such format. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:02, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the help! Much appreciated! :) Fox816 ( talk) 03:46, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
Here is what the dictionary says;
Proposal:
proposal |prəˈpōzəl| noun 1 a plan or suggestion, esp. a formal or written one, put forward for consideration or discussion by others : a set of proposals for a major new high-speed rail link.
Ultimatum:
ultimatum |ˌəltəˈmātəm; -ˈmät-| noun ( pl. -matums or -mata |-ˈmātə; -ˈmätə|) a final demand or statement of terms, the rejection of which will result in retaliation or a breakdown in relations : the UN Security Council ultimatum demanding Iraq's withdrawal from Kuwait | a “Marry me or else” ultimatum.
Since there was no room for discussion or argument or negotiation in what Vicious said to Julia, that makes it an ultimatum. That was the best word to begin with, it should stay that way.
Someone who is not a native speaker of English won't have much trouble with translating the meaning, and pretty much all native English speakers understand the difference. If they don't, there are dictionaries. :) Thanks! --MrsSpooky 21:58, 23 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsSpooky ( talk • contribs)
MrsSpooky 22:20, 23 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsSpooky ( talk • contribs)
"Are you going to kill him?" "No you are. Either he dies or you both die." <--does that sound like a proposal to you? --MrsSpooky 02:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by MrsSpooky ( talk • contribs)
It's not in the damned template. How many times do I have to repeat myself? Are you blind? Headbomb { talk / contribs / physics / books} 23:33, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
Please see the ongoing discussion in Talk:Cloud Strife and read the actual article. It is not a comparison, it is a fantasy casting for a movie which is not even taking place, which violates the WP:CRYSTAL policy. And as other users point out in the talk above, it violates neutrality, WP:UNDUE and trivia. 68.55.153.254 ( talk) 23:45, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
I only agreed with PresN about going for the first (and thus with all). Also, it's kind of obvious that I did not mean that, considering I put it next PresN's comment. Regards. Tintor2 ( talk) 22:50, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
I think that the quotes in the Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime) article are in general, a good thing, as long as it doesn't fall into copyright violation of the original source. The 'so sick' comment, in particular, could not be made any more succinct than it is. Perhaps it would be useful to have a peer review on the article, as the last peer review was in 2007, IIRC? Or even getting the article to B-class would be an achievement - there are 750 C-class anime articles, but less than 200 B-class. WP:AFDHOWTO should explain everything you need to know about AFDing an article, but it would be a very good idea if WP:BEFORE were followed first, or if you were to contact your adopter and ask for their advice. -- Malkinann ( talk) 00:55, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
I don't feel it's a good idea to start up another discussion before the first one has been resolved. Please get in contact with your adopter about this. -- Malkinann ( talk) 00:46, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
Okay thanks for starting a discussion and not just delete the winners, cuz the winners have been posted up there for almost 2 years already and no one seemed to remove them, so I thought that you can't just remove them like that without letting people know, and if they still agree with you 24.205.28.18 ( talk) 19:26, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
Seems to be working for me; I put in {{Mobile Suit Gundam|MS=MSZG}} and I get the template with the first group as Zeta Gundam-specific. Same thing for {{Universal Century|MS=MSZG}}. -- Pres N 16:49, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but I didn't make much progress with those articles so I don't what resources are good. If your Japanese is up to par, you can try doing google searches of some of the reliable Japanese websites like newspapers and media sites. Sorry that doesn't help much, but I'm not sure where else to check. ( Guyinblack25 talk 21:46, 26 October 2010 (UTC))
Have you ever considered participating at WP:GAR? It's a good way to learn what makes an article GA-quality, and there's always a variety of articles to review. I found that having some experience there helped my confidence when I went to submit my first GA. -- Malkinann ( talk) 00:34, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Anime and manga are fairly common terms in North America, seiyū is not. Anime, while originally meaning Japanese animation, has taken on its own meaning of Japanese-style animation, though this isn't entirely accurate either. Similarly with manga. There even exist western anime and manga. Not so with seiyū. Seiyū simply means Japanese voice actor, that's all. There are some quirks to voice acting in Japan not found elsewhere, but the terms are essentially synonymous. There is no relevant information lost by referring to Japanese voice actors as such, especially with such phrases as "… performed by various seiyū - or voice actors - from the anime series …". How is the use of a Japanese word at all clarifying? There was still the link to voice acting in Japan for anyone interested.
I was also taking a lead from the discussion here. I think the key point is that anime articles on Wikipedia are still intended for all Wikipedia readers, not just the anime subculture. – mpdimitroff ( talk · contribs) 06:39, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey Bread Ninja. I see you've removed a lot of content from the article. Don't you feel some of it should have been kept for future reference in the "Talk" page? While there is trivia among these, someone might find it useful at some point. If you're adamant about simply getting rid of it, could you please point towards a Help page that recommend this line of conduct? That would help me understand certain editing policies I'm unfamiliar with (because there are just too many of them!). Thanks.
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What happened to the page? There used to be a character chart like the one on the Dissidia: Final Fantasy page, but now it's gone. Worse, there's unsourced material, like Vaan's inclusion, that has yet to be officially - if at all - confirmed. The page difinitely needs reworking, and I'd do it, but I don't know where to start. 142.26.194.190 ( talk) 16:07, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello ! I left a message on the AfD page, but my request for help in finding sources at Wp:Anime failed, there doesn't seem to be any reliable source even in japanese, and no one seems to know the books.
I agree with you that the article would be acceptable with enough sources, but that could be said of all articles. The real question is whether there is any source, and thus whether the subject is notable or not. It seems obvious now that the subject isn't notable. Folken de Fanel ( talk) 08:57, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
You are correct. If it can't be helped, then there is no choice. But for something like this article it just appears to be more difficult to do considering it's a novel relating to anime and manga but not exactly within the criteria. SO finding a regular reliable source is nearly impossible to find unless we start hunting for these specific sources to see if they have any coverage on this topic. but at the moment it has no sources. it has to be deleted then so be it. I saved the information on a special page, in case i find an sources after it gets deleted. Bread Ninja ( talk) 09:08, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I'll try to do my best to help out with the article. There's been a recent revival of interest in the series, so I'm more than happy to help with editing. When I have some time later, I'll update the article a bit more. Bokan
Concerning the TYPE in the infobox for the be Human release at Music of Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex, there is an issue with using "mini album" because that is not a TYPE, but something within "Other" which is a type. See this: Category:Album articles with non-standard infoboxes. For that field in the infobox, there should be one of the categories listed in that page, which could be Other, or maybe Soundtrack or EP or even Compilation as I thought at first. But in any case, there is a problem with "mini album" because it's not a TYPE value in itself, but something that falls within Other and can therefore be discussed in the text (outside of the infobox). -- DOOMSDAYER520 ( Talk| Contribs) 17:45, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
I have switched the boxart back to the logo. Your argument about the cast is not a solid one- there would not be justification for a non-free cast image, and so we can't use that as a justification for a non-free image in the lead instead of a free one. As far as I can see, the logo has three major advantages. First and formost, it is freely licensed, and free media should always be preferred. Secondly, unlike the single box art, it represents the entire series. Thirdly, it is consistent with other series articles. To draw a comparison, using that non-free box art in the lead instead of the free logo is like using a non-free publicity photo of a member of a band in the article about the band as a whole, instead of using a free logo used by the band; that idea is ludicrous, and there's no real difference between the two. J Milburn ( talk) 13:18, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
The fact you don't see NFC as the main issue is perhaps the crux of the disagreement. The NFC policies are very strict and important, and have to be taken seriously. J Milburn ( talk) 14:00, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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The Anime and Manga BarnSakura Award |
I award you this BarnSakura in recondition of your contributions to anime and manga articles during 2010 and because everyone deserves a little recondition every once in a while. ;) — Farix ( t | c) 01:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC) |
oh wow thank you! i never thought i'd win one of these. i'm very grateful. Bread Ninja ( talk) 01:03, 31 December 2010 (UTC)