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Thank you for the help... I need to add a subtitle AWARDS before Retirement. Can you help me Thanks Joe Monmouth1946 ( talk) 21:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, Lilymj42!
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I saw your request for undeletion at Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Example.jpg
And that lead me to look at the revision history of User:Lilymj42/sandbox/Trudy Comiskey
From that revision history I can see that File:Trudy-hottie-vball.jpg and File:Trudy-vball-pic-2019.jpg were not released under a free license. If you upload similar images, in future, they will have to be released under a free license, by the photographer.
Trudy Comiskey is 13 or 14 years old? One of the embarrassing things about the wikipedia is that, since most participants are male, there tends to be a real bias against covering women, and covering young people. A few years ago I worked on the article on Olympia Nelson, a truly exceptional young woman, who, when she was still in high school, had written an essay on the effects of social media on the body images and self-esteem of her peers. Her essay was so well written, and so perceptive, it was republished, around the world. Nevertheless, it was not enough to preserve the article about her from being deleted.
So, Trudy Comiskey is unlikely to have an article about her, while still a youth, on the wikipedia, unless she becomes a world class actress, or is a leading actor in a hollywood movie, or reasonable equivalent. You could port your draft to another wiki, with looser inclusion rules, like https://en.wikialpha.org
It occurred to me that you might be Ms Comiskey, or her friend, or sibling, and that you might be, technically, still a minor. I've written about wikipedia contributions from minors, at Legal incompetency, due to age.
Some years ago we had a huge fight over the contributions of someone who was an exceptionally fine photographer. They uploaded some exceptionally fine photographs, under what we call a "free license" - one that freely allows our readers to re-use them. Then he tried to claw those images back - get them deleted.
He became demanding, unpleasant, when we didn't agree to delete them. There are circumstances where we will delete images, even when the photographer had already released them under a free license, but not when the image(s) were in use. And these images were in use on another wiki.
This guy escalated. He started to claim that the images had to be deleted because he was really only fourteen years old, so he wasn't legally qualified to release the images.
My personal opinion about what we should do when we come across a contributor who we suspect might not be legally old enough to release their contributions is to look at the quality of their contribution, and their level of maturity and cooperation when interacting with other contributors. Personally, if I suspect a contributor who is mature, cooperative and competent may be too young to contribute here, I keep that suspicion to myself.
Can I offer you a suggestion? Why not look at the Women in Red wikiproject, and consider trying to contribute to articles on noteworthy women, who don't yet have articles, or whose articles were recently created?
If you need advice on how to contribute here, feel free to leave me a question on User talk:Geo Swan.
Cheers! Geo Swan ( talk) 16:13, 11 December 2019 (UTC)
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This is Lilymj42's talk page, where you can send them messages and comments. |
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Thank you for the help... I need to add a subtitle AWARDS before Retirement. Can you help me Thanks Joe Monmouth1946 ( talk) 21:17, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
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Hello, Lilymj42!
Having an article declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the
Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the
Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there!
KylieTastic (
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18:30, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
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I saw your request for undeletion at Commons:Undeletion_requests/Current_requests#File:Example.jpg
And that lead me to look at the revision history of User:Lilymj42/sandbox/Trudy Comiskey
From that revision history I can see that File:Trudy-hottie-vball.jpg and File:Trudy-vball-pic-2019.jpg were not released under a free license. If you upload similar images, in future, they will have to be released under a free license, by the photographer.
Trudy Comiskey is 13 or 14 years old? One of the embarrassing things about the wikipedia is that, since most participants are male, there tends to be a real bias against covering women, and covering young people. A few years ago I worked on the article on Olympia Nelson, a truly exceptional young woman, who, when she was still in high school, had written an essay on the effects of social media on the body images and self-esteem of her peers. Her essay was so well written, and so perceptive, it was republished, around the world. Nevertheless, it was not enough to preserve the article about her from being deleted.
So, Trudy Comiskey is unlikely to have an article about her, while still a youth, on the wikipedia, unless she becomes a world class actress, or is a leading actor in a hollywood movie, or reasonable equivalent. You could port your draft to another wiki, with looser inclusion rules, like https://en.wikialpha.org
It occurred to me that you might be Ms Comiskey, or her friend, or sibling, and that you might be, technically, still a minor. I've written about wikipedia contributions from minors, at Legal incompetency, due to age.
Some years ago we had a huge fight over the contributions of someone who was an exceptionally fine photographer. They uploaded some exceptionally fine photographs, under what we call a "free license" - one that freely allows our readers to re-use them. Then he tried to claw those images back - get them deleted.
He became demanding, unpleasant, when we didn't agree to delete them. There are circumstances where we will delete images, even when the photographer had already released them under a free license, but not when the image(s) were in use. And these images were in use on another wiki.
This guy escalated. He started to claim that the images had to be deleted because he was really only fourteen years old, so he wasn't legally qualified to release the images.
My personal opinion about what we should do when we come across a contributor who we suspect might not be legally old enough to release their contributions is to look at the quality of their contribution, and their level of maturity and cooperation when interacting with other contributors. Personally, if I suspect a contributor who is mature, cooperative and competent may be too young to contribute here, I keep that suspicion to myself.
Can I offer you a suggestion? Why not look at the Women in Red wikiproject, and consider trying to contribute to articles on noteworthy women, who don't yet have articles, or whose articles were recently created?
If you need advice on how to contribute here, feel free to leave me a question on User talk:Geo Swan.
Cheers! Geo Swan ( talk) 16:13, 11 December 2019 (UTC)