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I have added a "{{ prod}}" template to the article "The Root of All Evil? cast gallery", suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also " What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Pascal.Tesson 15:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Laurence, I stumbled across your user page because you edited a page I'm watching ( A. C. Grayling). I'm surprised by your statement invoking other editors to sign a petition, without any explantion as to why they should do so. Furthermore, your reference to Christians as Jesus Freaks is hardly in the spirit of Wikipedia. Christians are people whose beliefs are no more, or less, valid than yours. Perhaps you might consider re-wording this "bit of fun".
Incidentally, I did look at the petition you're promoting. It apppears to be a device to restrict the freedom of parents to choose the type of education most suitable for their children (I would contend the rights of children are secondary in this matter). As such, I found it disppointing that Grayling has signed the petition. I've always admired him as someone who stands up for freedom. Clearly on this occasion he doesn't. Cheers, Arcturus 20:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Ttiotsw. It is indeed a matter for profound embarrassment that we continue to organise our children's education in the new millennium around competing ancient mythologies. I fear we may find ourselves paying for this lunacy for some time to come. And we should certainly take great care when speaking of "freedom" in education, as it will invariably turn out that we are in fact speaking of the freedom of parents to impose their wishes upon their children; which children, to whom if true freedom of expression were granted, might choose no such thing.
But returning to your original remarks, Arcturus, you have made an assertion so astonishing that, try as hard as I might, I really cannot let go. In all apparent seriousness, you have stated that "Christians are people whose beliefs are no more, or less, valid than yours." Though superficially plausible, I trust that on a moment's reflection you will realise how erroneous this is.
Chief amongst those who will take issue with your statement are, of course, religious believers themselves. No serious Christian will consider his beliefs to be equally as valid as mine; rather he will conceive of them as inhabiting an altogether higher realm: that of revealed truth, accessible only through faith. To place such beliefs on a par with the paltry mortal findings of history, science, and philosophy, is not only an insult to the Creator, but is to commit the fatal error of subjecting revelation to reason; a trial which, as Hume pointed out long ago, "it is by no means fitted to endure."
So perish the thought that religious beliefs, being essentially of Divine origin, should be respected to the same degree as my own poor fallible and faltering notions. My beliefs should merely be accorded a respect proportionate to such reasonings and evidences as I may supply, and in the full knowledge that I may in time be wholly disproved. Whereas religious beliefs can only be deserving of the highest honour and unquestioning regard; or alternatively of the utmost contempt.
Laurence Boyce 18:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Please review Wikipedia:User page. I believe that your "fun" section on your user page is in violation of this guideline, and I ask that you remove that content. (I personally don't find it offensive, but a large number of contributors here probably would, and since it doesn't follow the guideline, I recommend not arguing about it.)
With regards to your request for visitors to the user page to click on an external link to sign a petition, while that may also technically violate the guideline, I believe that it is not offensive in its wording, and so I will not make an issue of it.
You're clearly a valuable contributor to Wikipedia, and I hope that you'll understand the need to make this minor adjustment. If you have any questions on the above, please let me know. Thanks. -- John Broughton | (♫♫) 14:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
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How about Atheistic films?-- P-Chan 20:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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Greetings Laurence Boyce, I noticed that you've just removed this template from Ayaan Hirsi Ali. What was your logic for doing so? The usage of TOChidden is to reduce massive amounts of blank space in the lead areas of longer articles (as we see the Ayaan Hirsi Ali article now has). ( → Netscott) 17:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
You once knew him as “ Devilmaycares”; you now know him as “ Burntapple”.
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He returned as Dcker to twice more edit “ Brian Flemming” and otherwise to pursue his odd agenda on 10 and 11 July. The Dcker is now also blocked. — SlamDiego ←T 05:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
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Hi - in case you are not watching Talk:Richard Dawkins, you might like to be warned about this recent addition, in which it is alleged that User:Laurence Boyce is a sockpuppet of Richard Dawkins. I have deleted it from the Dawkins talk page as irrelevant, and maybe it can simply be ignored - but I have no idea what lies behind this anonymous accusation, and I thought you might like to know! Good luck! Snalwibma ( talk) 16:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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I have added a "{{ prod}}" template to the article "The Root of All Evil? cast gallery", suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also " What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, or, if you disagree with the notice, discuss the issues at its talk page. Removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, but the article may still be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached, or if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria. Pascal.Tesson 15:25, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hi Laurence, I stumbled across your user page because you edited a page I'm watching ( A. C. Grayling). I'm surprised by your statement invoking other editors to sign a petition, without any explantion as to why they should do so. Furthermore, your reference to Christians as Jesus Freaks is hardly in the spirit of Wikipedia. Christians are people whose beliefs are no more, or less, valid than yours. Perhaps you might consider re-wording this "bit of fun".
Incidentally, I did look at the petition you're promoting. It apppears to be a device to restrict the freedom of parents to choose the type of education most suitable for their children (I would contend the rights of children are secondary in this matter). As such, I found it disppointing that Grayling has signed the petition. I've always admired him as someone who stands up for freedom. Clearly on this occasion he doesn't. Cheers, Arcturus 20:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Thanks Ttiotsw. It is indeed a matter for profound embarrassment that we continue to organise our children's education in the new millennium around competing ancient mythologies. I fear we may find ourselves paying for this lunacy for some time to come. And we should certainly take great care when speaking of "freedom" in education, as it will invariably turn out that we are in fact speaking of the freedom of parents to impose their wishes upon their children; which children, to whom if true freedom of expression were granted, might choose no such thing.
But returning to your original remarks, Arcturus, you have made an assertion so astonishing that, try as hard as I might, I really cannot let go. In all apparent seriousness, you have stated that "Christians are people whose beliefs are no more, or less, valid than yours." Though superficially plausible, I trust that on a moment's reflection you will realise how erroneous this is.
Chief amongst those who will take issue with your statement are, of course, religious believers themselves. No serious Christian will consider his beliefs to be equally as valid as mine; rather he will conceive of them as inhabiting an altogether higher realm: that of revealed truth, accessible only through faith. To place such beliefs on a par with the paltry mortal findings of history, science, and philosophy, is not only an insult to the Creator, but is to commit the fatal error of subjecting revelation to reason; a trial which, as Hume pointed out long ago, "it is by no means fitted to endure."
So perish the thought that religious beliefs, being essentially of Divine origin, should be respected to the same degree as my own poor fallible and faltering notions. My beliefs should merely be accorded a respect proportionate to such reasonings and evidences as I may supply, and in the full knowledge that I may in time be wholly disproved. Whereas religious beliefs can only be deserving of the highest honour and unquestioning regard; or alternatively of the utmost contempt.
Laurence Boyce 18:33, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
Please review Wikipedia:User page. I believe that your "fun" section on your user page is in violation of this guideline, and I ask that you remove that content. (I personally don't find it offensive, but a large number of contributors here probably would, and since it doesn't follow the guideline, I recommend not arguing about it.)
With regards to your request for visitors to the user page to click on an external link to sign a petition, while that may also technically violate the guideline, I believe that it is not offensive in its wording, and so I will not make an issue of it.
You're clearly a valuable contributor to Wikipedia, and I hope that you'll understand the need to make this minor adjustment. If you have any questions on the above, please let me know. Thanks. -- John Broughton | (♫♫) 14:37, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
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How about Atheistic films?-- P-Chan 20:59, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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Greetings Laurence Boyce, I noticed that you've just removed this template from Ayaan Hirsi Ali. What was your logic for doing so? The usage of TOChidden is to reduce massive amounts of blank space in the lead areas of longer articles (as we see the Ayaan Hirsi Ali article now has). ( → Netscott) 17:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
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Hi - in case you are not watching Talk:Richard Dawkins, you might like to be warned about this recent addition, in which it is alleged that User:Laurence Boyce is a sockpuppet of Richard Dawkins. I have deleted it from the Dawkins talk page as irrelevant, and maybe it can simply be ignored - but I have no idea what lies behind this anonymous accusation, and I thought you might like to know! Good luck! Snalwibma ( talk) 16:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
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