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Lar, thank you again for having faith in me for so long, leading up to my RFA, and it's passing. Thank you, for the nom, and I will not let you down. rootology ( C)( T) 07:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight elections/February 2009 — Rlevse • Talk • 01:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
[2] No doubt you could have done better. Kablammo ( talk) 16:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Could you move Talk:Isarco over to Talk:Eisack? Eisack has been repeatedly moved in the past by Supparluca and Icsunonove, despite a clear outcome of the discussion and vote on talk page (5.5-1 for Eisack; 2.5-1 against Isarco). Regards Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 10:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Check this out: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Statistics ++ Lar: t/ c 02:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Most of the comments are comments:) If you look at all the other candidates, the comments are first, then the questions have separate headings, such as, to give one of I think every other example, Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/CheckUser_and_Oversight_elections/February_2009#Comments_and_questions_for_east718. It makes them stand out for people's consideration, rather than general chat which all merges into one and tends to be of quite a lighthearted nature sometimes. I think you have about two or three questions, like plenty of the other candidates. I will fix it (or you can) if you want, just wanted to get your ok before doing so, so people don't have an excuse to have a problem with my making it have the format which makes stuff clearer and which everyone else has.:) Sticky Parkin 20:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for rethreading. I almost did the same myself; I'm glad you did. arimareiji ( talk) 20:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I've just seen your election withdrawal - I've sent you an email, but I wanted to say here that I'm sorry that it came to this. You've got a lot of trust here and will maintain that, keep your head up and don't let this get you down. Regard, Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 18:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you everyone for your kind words. It is gratifying to know that whatever aspersions might be cast by others who speak of good faith but apparently lack it, that I have your trust and support. ++ Lar: t/ c 12:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Have you stated anywhere why you withdrew? If not, that is fine too of course. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 15:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, I came across this comment [3] by Privatemusings which I feel highly inappropriate. Not only was it clearly WP:POINTY it also was a clear cut BLP violation as Privatemusings must know well that there is no RS that he is Roy's son so it is not a genuine or valid question. While occuring on a user subpage talk page, so only a minor issue, I feel it is highly inappropriate for anyone who clearly knows it to be false and knows it is a violation of BLP policy. I have already informed Privatemusings of my feelings on this matter but noticed while there he had apparently been banned from editing BLPs by the arbcom and found out when I looked into it you were apparently one of the mentor appointed when the ban was lifted, so I feel your words may carry more weight if you agree with me. Nil Einne ( talk) 10:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Lar, can I ask you something in your function as Steward, since I'm not very familiar with Meta practices. What procedures could Meta or the Foundation use to bring projects in line when they refuse to comply with copyright/licensing policy? I'm talking of the Albanian Wikipedia here ( sq:), whose image practices are truly abysmal. Virtually none of their images has as much as a source or copyright declaration, "PD" claims are strewn about at random, NFCCs, "exemption doctrines" or "fair use rationales" seem to be totally unheard-of, and what irritates me most, they have a whole category of images they claim are free to use on "Albanian-language websites" only, but "must not be copied to other Wikimedia projects". I tried to talk to two of their admins, but they were less than responsive. What can be done? Report also at Meta: here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
After this discussion with the second admin (the one who created the template), I'm not particularly optimistic. The template is clearly meant the way I understood it, as some kind of weird Albanian-only copyright status declaration. He was not able or not willing to explain why he thought the copyright situation was like that. He is now clearly stonewalling, claiming they have been "investigating" the issue elsewhere (but the thing has been sitting around since last April, and I see no discussion of it anywhere else), and asking me to go and mind my own business. He is completely unreceptive to the whole idea of why such a copyright status might be problematic. Judging from this admin's own image uploads, it seems clear there is only a vague awareness of copyright issues in the first place, and none at all of the non-free content problem. He is also saying, quite openly, that if they should get pressed for compliance they might just randomly put false copyright declarations on their images and challenge the world to prove them wrong. This is not looking good. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Albania finally signed the Berne Convention in 1994 -- and interpretations by some Albanians of copyright law have not caught up. AFAICT, it allows copyright for life+50 years, but may also use the system of using less where it had been published in Albania under the old system which ignored foreign copyrights. As such, the folks may fully believe they are in compliance with how copyright is actually handled there. Collect ( talk) 17:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Lar, thanks for the moral support regarding last week. I think that Administrator YellowMonkey banned me without even know why he was banning me. Anyway, I want to ask for your advice. I can see these editors Noclador and Gun Power Ma (especially) are going all over and editing things for a particular POV. I think Gun Power Ma is ignorant of the subject, has a particular POV set in his mind, and is out to establish it literally. He is going into the articles and using only the German POV of "South Tyrol". We've seen this before a couple years ago. Anyway, on to my question: We obviously don't want these utterly stupid and nonsensical edit wars to start again. How can we request that an Administrator come in and mediate for this topic? Of course you'd be the first choice, just to keep the children apart. I know how much you love that. :) Icsunonove ( talk) 04:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Lar. I saw this and thought "Y'know, that's something he'd find cool."
TTYL 207.145.133.34 ( talk) 19:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I have created a Neutral section for those who agree with the premise but not the method, or some other aspect, which may be altered following talkpage discussion. Perhaps you would wish to review your !vote under the changed circumstances? LessHeard vanU ( talk) 23:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Can you please tell how to put a text box for creating a new section in my talk page like some users have\? Thanks, and can you please respond on my talk page? I may forget to come here. Regards, -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 13:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
[7] shows the remarkable pertinacity of User:Fugsawugsa on that article. I strongly suspect the person has a connection with Mr. Rousso. Collect ( talk) 00:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I understand you may be able to help me userfy a page I threw up (almost literally) last night, and got knocked down (ouch) almost as quickly for:
23:41, 17 February 2009 PMDrive1061 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Skycasters" (G12: Blatant copyright infringement: A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)
This org has a unique concept, but drawing from marketing material without references just revealed my ignorance. Please help? Thanks! GHL ( talk) 22:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Per your past interest on the topic, kindly watchlist the conversation at [8] and consider if others need to be aware of this developing situation. A trainwreck on a kid's AP high school class project heading for FA would be a bad, bad thing. Montanabw (talk) 01:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
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Lar, thank you again for having faith in me for so long, leading up to my RFA, and it's passing. Thank you, for the nom, and I will not let you down. rootology ( C)( T) 07:34, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
See Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/CheckUser and Oversight elections/February 2009 — Rlevse • Talk • 01:45, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
[2] No doubt you could have done better. Kablammo ( talk) 16:18, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
Hello. Could you move Talk:Isarco over to Talk:Eisack? Eisack has been repeatedly moved in the past by Supparluca and Icsunonove, despite a clear outcome of the discussion and vote on talk page (5.5-1 for Eisack; 2.5-1 against Isarco). Regards Gun Powder Ma ( talk) 10:43, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
Check this out: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Statistics ++ Lar: t/ c 02:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Most of the comments are comments:) If you look at all the other candidates, the comments are first, then the questions have separate headings, such as, to give one of I think every other example, Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/CheckUser_and_Oversight_elections/February_2009#Comments_and_questions_for_east718. It makes them stand out for people's consideration, rather than general chat which all merges into one and tends to be of quite a lighthearted nature sometimes. I think you have about two or three questions, like plenty of the other candidates. I will fix it (or you can) if you want, just wanted to get your ok before doing so, so people don't have an excuse to have a problem with my making it have the format which makes stuff clearer and which everyone else has.:) Sticky Parkin 20:17, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for rethreading. I almost did the same myself; I'm glad you did. arimareiji ( talk) 20:47, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
I've just seen your election withdrawal - I've sent you an email, but I wanted to say here that I'm sorry that it came to this. You've got a lot of trust here and will maintain that, keep your head up and don't let this get you down. Regard, Ryan PostlethwaiteSee the mess I've created or let's have banter 18:00, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you everyone for your kind words. It is gratifying to know that whatever aspersions might be cast by others who speak of good faith but apparently lack it, that I have your trust and support. ++ Lar: t/ c 12:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Have you stated anywhere why you withdrew? If not, that is fine too of course. -- Apoc2400 ( talk) 15:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
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Hi, I came across this comment [3] by Privatemusings which I feel highly inappropriate. Not only was it clearly WP:POINTY it also was a clear cut BLP violation as Privatemusings must know well that there is no RS that he is Roy's son so it is not a genuine or valid question. While occuring on a user subpage talk page, so only a minor issue, I feel it is highly inappropriate for anyone who clearly knows it to be false and knows it is a violation of BLP policy. I have already informed Privatemusings of my feelings on this matter but noticed while there he had apparently been banned from editing BLPs by the arbcom and found out when I looked into it you were apparently one of the mentor appointed when the ban was lifted, so I feel your words may carry more weight if you agree with me. Nil Einne ( talk) 10:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Lar, can I ask you something in your function as Steward, since I'm not very familiar with Meta practices. What procedures could Meta or the Foundation use to bring projects in line when they refuse to comply with copyright/licensing policy? I'm talking of the Albanian Wikipedia here ( sq:), whose image practices are truly abysmal. Virtually none of their images has as much as a source or copyright declaration, "PD" claims are strewn about at random, NFCCs, "exemption doctrines" or "fair use rationales" seem to be totally unheard-of, and what irritates me most, they have a whole category of images they claim are free to use on "Albanian-language websites" only, but "must not be copied to other Wikimedia projects". I tried to talk to two of their admins, but they were less than responsive. What can be done? Report also at Meta: here. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:07, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
After this discussion with the second admin (the one who created the template), I'm not particularly optimistic. The template is clearly meant the way I understood it, as some kind of weird Albanian-only copyright status declaration. He was not able or not willing to explain why he thought the copyright situation was like that. He is now clearly stonewalling, claiming they have been "investigating" the issue elsewhere (but the thing has been sitting around since last April, and I see no discussion of it anywhere else), and asking me to go and mind my own business. He is completely unreceptive to the whole idea of why such a copyright status might be problematic. Judging from this admin's own image uploads, it seems clear there is only a vague awareness of copyright issues in the first place, and none at all of the non-free content problem. He is also saying, quite openly, that if they should get pressed for compliance they might just randomly put false copyright declarations on their images and challenge the world to prove them wrong. This is not looking good. Fut.Perf. ☼ 14:05, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Albania finally signed the Berne Convention in 1994 -- and interpretations by some Albanians of copyright law have not caught up. AFAICT, it allows copyright for life+50 years, but may also use the system of using less where it had been published in Albania under the old system which ignored foreign copyrights. As such, the folks may fully believe they are in compliance with how copyright is actually handled there. Collect ( talk) 17:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Hi Lar, thanks for the moral support regarding last week. I think that Administrator YellowMonkey banned me without even know why he was banning me. Anyway, I want to ask for your advice. I can see these editors Noclador and Gun Power Ma (especially) are going all over and editing things for a particular POV. I think Gun Power Ma is ignorant of the subject, has a particular POV set in his mind, and is out to establish it literally. He is going into the articles and using only the German POV of "South Tyrol". We've seen this before a couple years ago. Anyway, on to my question: We obviously don't want these utterly stupid and nonsensical edit wars to start again. How can we request that an Administrator come in and mediate for this topic? Of course you'd be the first choice, just to keep the children apart. I know how much you love that. :) Icsunonove ( talk) 04:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
Hey Lar. I saw this and thought "Y'know, that's something he'd find cool."
TTYL 207.145.133.34 ( talk) 19:00, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
I have created a Neutral section for those who agree with the premise but not the method, or some other aspect, which may be altered following talkpage discussion. Perhaps you would wish to review your !vote under the changed circumstances? LessHeard vanU ( talk) 23:02, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Can you please tell how to put a text box for creating a new section in my talk page like some users have\? Thanks, and can you please respond on my talk page? I may forget to come here. Regards, -- Rsrikanth05 ( talk) 13:12, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
[7] shows the remarkable pertinacity of User:Fugsawugsa on that article. I strongly suspect the person has a connection with Mr. Rousso. Collect ( talk) 00:23, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
I understand you may be able to help me userfy a page I threw up (almost literally) last night, and got knocked down (ouch) almost as quickly for:
23:41, 17 February 2009 PMDrive1061 (Talk | contribs) deleted "Skycasters" (G12: Blatant copyright infringement: A7: Article about a company, corporation, organization, or group, which does not indicate the importance or significance of the subject)
This org has a unique concept, but drawing from marketing material without references just revealed my ignorance. Please help? Thanks! GHL ( talk) 22:40, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
Per your past interest on the topic, kindly watchlist the conversation at [8] and consider if others need to be aware of this developing situation. A trainwreck on a kid's AP high school class project heading for FA would be a bad, bad thing. Montanabw (talk) 01:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedia Loves Art! (February 27) The Smithsonian American Art Museum will be holding a Wikipedia Loves Art! meetup on Friday, February 27 from 5-7 pm in the Kogod Courtyard. This is a photography event involving Wikipedians, along with Flickr users and others, to generate content for Wikipedia. Come share your experiences, meet the other teams, and take some photos! While RSVPing isn't necessary drop Jeff Gates an email if you're planning on attending so he can get a head count: gatesj (at) si.edu. There also is a signup list here, along with detailed information. The museum is conveniently located across from the Gallery Place-Chinatown metro station. DC 6th Meetup (March 7) The DC 6th meetup will take place on March 7th at Pizzeria Uno's at Union Station, one level up from the main floor. The meetup will start at 5pm, and people usually stick around there for several hours. You can RSVP at Wikipedia:Meetup/DC 6. |
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