Personal opinion, a random claim or anything of the sort can not be written in Wikipedia's voice. That's just a NO. Revert your edit or try to find RS for the claim as soon as possible. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 03:20, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, in a contribution you've replaced the 2.5 to 3.5 as speakers of the Macedonian language: ( [1]) Can you please provide us with the name of the book that you're quoting and the content of the provided page, so we can check if this data is properly quoted? Regards. -- StanProg ( talk) 11:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Is there really any need to slander me as a "racist" because I believe (based on the sources) that there's no basis to saying that today's Macedonians are native to the region? Like seriously dude...calm down. You can disagree with someone without resorting to that kind of childish name calling. All the best. Apples&Manzanas ( talk) 06:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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After reviewing the text again, you are right most of the info is redundant. You are right my apologies, I just re-added a small amount of info that I thought was relevant. -- James Richards ( talk) 03:56, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hello, just wondering why did you remove * List of Macedonians (Greek) from /info/en/?search=Demographic_history_of_Macedonia? I propose that I add the list back, as well as list of ethnic Macedonians, list of Macedonian Bulgarians and list of Serb Macedonians. Let me know what you think. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 12:37, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Why don't you agree with the change? -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 13:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Kromid I also pinged you on the Mijaks page, I am new so not sure if I done it right. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 13:55, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't appreciate you spamming me with warnings that don't apply to me according to the rules, it is not constructive behavior. I don't think you are understanding my point, sources 5 to 10 on the Old Church Slavonic page are examples of Old Bulgarian and Old Slovenian being used as an alternative name of OCS. I simply tried to make it more accurate while keeping Old Macedonian in the intro for good faith when I could have simply deleted it, Old Macedonian is not an alternative name for OCS but its a name of a regional recension. Are you here to improve Wikipedia for people or to push a nationalist narrative? I can provide the quotes of the sources if you give me some time. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 02:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Check sources 5 to 10, there is no mention of Old Macedonian as an alternative name for OCS, I will add the quotes for those sources when I wake up, also feel free to find good sources of Old Macedonian being used as an alternative name of for OCS. Also source 55 cites Macedonian as a language from the year 1790 onwards while Old Bulgarian from 900-1100. Also source 58 on page 431 says "Macedonian was not distinguished from Bulgarian for most of its history. Constantine and Methodius came from Macedonian Thessaloniki; their old Bulgarian is therefore at the same time 'Old Macedonian'. No Macedonian literature dates from earlier than the nineteeth century, when a nationalist movement came to the fore and a literacy language was established, first written with Greek letters, then in Cyrillic." The fact that Old Macedonian is the same as Old Bulgarian does not mean its not used in a regional context, obviously Old Macedonian is talking about the then Bulgarian dialect of the region of Macedonia but it wasn't used for Old Bulgarian in the rest of the Bulgarian Empire for example. Also in Comparative History of Slavic Literatures by Dmitrij Tschizewskij it says on page 26 "The brothers knew the Old Bulgarian or Old Macedonian dialect spoken around Thessalonica.". As I have already pointed out I am not arguing that Old Macedonian is not a term used but instead that it is a regional term rather than an alternative name for Old Church Slavonic.
In regards to your comment of "Another issue with your recent edits is that; one can also mention in the lead Old Slovenian is regional too and Old Bulgarian is due to proximity to the Bulgarian empire, however that info is better reserved for the body.", you are wrong, in the 19th century the terms Old Bulgarian and Old Slovenian were used as alternative names for OCS by multiple historians such as August Schleicher, Martin Hattala, Leopold Geitler and August Leskien and others before the more widely accepted collective OCS name was adopted instead. Find me reliable sources of Old Macedonian being used as an alternative of Old Church Slavonic because I am not sure who added sources 5 to 10 but they do not have evidence of Old Macedonian as an alternative name. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 03:58, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok keep it to the stable version. No hard feelings my brother, hopefully relations between Macedonians and Bulgarians can be good again one day. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 04:23, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. If you don't deny that the map is hugely incorrect for the age of Diocletian please allow me to delete it. Other maps in the article and that it's sourced (see WP:AGE MATTERS) don't influence this. Gyalu22 ( talk) 07:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Kromide, I don't understand why you have reverted my edit. You are probably not following the discussion on the talk page. The problem is that there is no credible secondary source for this information. Based on the primary source at the moment, there is a dispute between me and the new editor, who added a previous version of the sentence under question. He claims that this very version that was reverted from you does not correspond to the primary source and denies any past Bulgarian connection to the modern Macedonians, which is frivolous. Greetings. Jingiby ( talk) 04:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
Personal opinion, a random claim or anything of the sort can not be written in Wikipedia's voice. That's just a NO. Revert your edit or try to find RS for the claim as soon as possible. Sadkσ (talk is cheap) 03:20, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, in a contribution you've replaced the 2.5 to 3.5 as speakers of the Macedonian language: ( [1]) Can you please provide us with the name of the book that you're quoting and the content of the provided page, so we can check if this data is properly quoted? Regards. -- StanProg ( talk) 11:02, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
Is there really any need to slander me as a "racist" because I believe (based on the sources) that there's no basis to saying that today's Macedonians are native to the region? Like seriously dude...calm down. You can disagree with someone without resorting to that kind of childish name calling. All the best. Apples&Manzanas ( talk) 06:37, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
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After reviewing the text again, you are right most of the info is redundant. You are right my apologies, I just re-added a small amount of info that I thought was relevant. -- James Richards ( talk) 03:56, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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Hello, just wondering why did you remove * List of Macedonians (Greek) from /info/en/?search=Demographic_history_of_Macedonia? I propose that I add the list back, as well as list of ethnic Macedonians, list of Macedonian Bulgarians and list of Serb Macedonians. Let me know what you think. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 12:37, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
Why don't you agree with the change? -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 13:37, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
Kromid I also pinged you on the Mijaks page, I am new so not sure if I done it right. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 13:55, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
I don't appreciate you spamming me with warnings that don't apply to me according to the rules, it is not constructive behavior. I don't think you are understanding my point, sources 5 to 10 on the Old Church Slavonic page are examples of Old Bulgarian and Old Slovenian being used as an alternative name of OCS. I simply tried to make it more accurate while keeping Old Macedonian in the intro for good faith when I could have simply deleted it, Old Macedonian is not an alternative name for OCS but its a name of a regional recension. Are you here to improve Wikipedia for people or to push a nationalist narrative? I can provide the quotes of the sources if you give me some time. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 02:20, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Check sources 5 to 10, there is no mention of Old Macedonian as an alternative name for OCS, I will add the quotes for those sources when I wake up, also feel free to find good sources of Old Macedonian being used as an alternative name of for OCS. Also source 55 cites Macedonian as a language from the year 1790 onwards while Old Bulgarian from 900-1100. Also source 58 on page 431 says "Macedonian was not distinguished from Bulgarian for most of its history. Constantine and Methodius came from Macedonian Thessaloniki; their old Bulgarian is therefore at the same time 'Old Macedonian'. No Macedonian literature dates from earlier than the nineteeth century, when a nationalist movement came to the fore and a literacy language was established, first written with Greek letters, then in Cyrillic." The fact that Old Macedonian is the same as Old Bulgarian does not mean its not used in a regional context, obviously Old Macedonian is talking about the then Bulgarian dialect of the region of Macedonia but it wasn't used for Old Bulgarian in the rest of the Bulgarian Empire for example. Also in Comparative History of Slavic Literatures by Dmitrij Tschizewskij it says on page 26 "The brothers knew the Old Bulgarian or Old Macedonian dialect spoken around Thessalonica.". As I have already pointed out I am not arguing that Old Macedonian is not a term used but instead that it is a regional term rather than an alternative name for Old Church Slavonic.
In regards to your comment of "Another issue with your recent edits is that; one can also mention in the lead Old Slovenian is regional too and Old Bulgarian is due to proximity to the Bulgarian empire, however that info is better reserved for the body.", you are wrong, in the 19th century the terms Old Bulgarian and Old Slovenian were used as alternative names for OCS by multiple historians such as August Schleicher, Martin Hattala, Leopold Geitler and August Leskien and others before the more widely accepted collective OCS name was adopted instead. Find me reliable sources of Old Macedonian being used as an alternative of Old Church Slavonic because I am not sure who added sources 5 to 10 but they do not have evidence of Old Macedonian as an alternative name. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 03:58, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok keep it to the stable version. No hard feelings my brother, hopefully relations between Macedonians and Bulgarians can be good again one day. -- StoyanStoyanov80 ( talk) 04:23, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hi. If you don't deny that the map is hugely incorrect for the age of Diocletian please allow me to delete it. Other maps in the article and that it's sourced (see WP:AGE MATTERS) don't influence this. Gyalu22 ( talk) 07:46, 19 November 2023 (UTC)
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Hi Kromide, I don't understand why you have reverted my edit. You are probably not following the discussion on the talk page. The problem is that there is no credible secondary source for this information. Based on the primary source at the moment, there is a dispute between me and the new editor, who added a previous version of the sentence under question. He claims that this very version that was reverted from you does not correspond to the primary source and denies any past Bulgarian connection to the modern Macedonians, which is frivolous. Greetings. Jingiby ( talk) 04:49, 3 February 2024 (UTC)