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Could you also consider monitoring Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention/holding pen to remove usernames that eventually get blocked? -- Step hen 09:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Some recent attempts at bad username generation have added accents to characters to obfuscate English words.
A quick look at User:H/HBC_MCP/NameWatcher suggests NameWatcherBot does not strip accents before attempting to match patterns from the blacklist.
To prevent this sort of obfuscation, I suggest the bot should, in addition to any other string normalization prior to comparison, remove accents by first performing Unicode NFKD normalization, which splits accented characters into base characters and combining accents, and then removing all combining characters (which are those in the ranges from 0x300 to 0x36f inclusive and from 0x1dc0 to 0x1dff inclusive) from the result. -- The Anome ( talk) 11:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed that your bot (HBC Namewatcher) does remove offensive names, but doesn't notice tweaked names like User:Ffuk1 I suggest the regxps ought to be modified to accomodate these names. ManishEarth Talk • Stalk 13:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi - just wondering, has anything changed with the helperbot's threshold for a backlog recently? I've been reporting items here and I realize it's early in US/UK - but just seems like it's been a while since an admin was there. Maybe it's just a quantity threshold, and not a time/age threshold, but it just seems like with some of the age and severity of these it should have been listed as a backlog earlier. Thanks in advance. 7 09:18, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I know the formatting sucks, and the sorting isn't working, I will fix that when I have time. If you have a suggestion for the formatting go ahead and make it. As for the sorting, I thought I had it working but I will have to fiddle some more later. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 16:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
How about a table for formatting? Without taking the time to edit every single entry, I did a couple of rows from the WWII index at User:Krellis/Sandbox. You'll note I added a feature request there, too - I'm not sure if it's really possible, but it would be neat to try to include an estimate of the number of replies in a given section. One way to try to approximate it would be the number of times "UTC" appears in the section - not perfect, by any means, but it might work. Or you could go by changes in indentation level. As long as you indicate somewhere that it's approximate, that probably wouldn't matter too much. Of course, I have no idea how difficult it would be to actually implement :) The table with alternating row backgrounds still might be at least somewhat of an improvement from the current style, since it will keep all of the links together in a row and help prevent items from running together. — Krellis 23:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Are there any specifications on what the target can be. I am trying to put it on Talk:Aang/Archive Topics. Would Aang/Archive Topics work too. If so, which one would be better? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parent5446 ( talk • contribs) 21:35, November 18, 2007 UTC
Hello. The HBCAIB didn't index some of my talk page articles. Can you please fix that for me? Thanks. Sincerely, Sir Intellegence - smartr tahn eaver!!!! 00:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Ummmm... What I meant is that it didn't index all of the sections in my archive(s). Can you please fix that. Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Sir Intellegence - smartr tahn eaver!!!! 00:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
When the bot creates sortable boxes (like one located here), make the "replies" section's number two-digit, i.e. 01, 05, 11, ect. It would make the sorting so much better. Thanks. Pbroks13 ( talk) 05:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! First, let me just commend you on writing an incredibly useful bot! The ability to quickly survey current and past discussion is tremendously useful. • But, of course, I have a question: In my watchlist, most work done by robots is flagged as a "bot edit". There's a little black "b" next to the entry, and bot edits can be shown or hidden. HBCAI's edits don't appear to get marked that way. No "b", and they always show. Is this a known issue? • To try and help out, I went looking for information on how those edits get so marked. Unfortunately, I can't find anything. Not a word. :( — DragonHawk ( talk| hist) 18:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Since an index of the hundreds of archive pages of the administrators noticeboard and ANI is virtually unusable (my browser has trouble even attempting to sort the table) do you think a combined index could be made of the last half-dozen or so archives of AN and ANI? — Random832 17:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to set up the bot to archive the (as yet non-existent) archives for WP:MUSEUMS. I created the target but I'm a little lost on masks and stuff. Do I have to do numerical archives or can it be monthly? I ask because I'm not sure how to set up numericals, but I can c/p the source for the monthly archive from my own talk, which I set up for MiszaBot. I'm aiming for a 30 day archive time. Thanks! TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 18:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
{{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 75K |counter = 2 |algo = old(30d) |archive = User talk:Krellis/Archive/Archive %(counter)d }} {{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn |target=./Archive |mask=/Archive/Archive <#> |leading_zeros=0 |indexhere=yes |template=User:Krellis/archive template }}
For some reason the bot is linking to a non-existant article here, even though I have my archives on the page User_talk:Daedalus969/Archives/1. Currently, I have manually fixed the links, and undid the edit by the bot as it messes them up. What is wrong here? I can't get it to work.— Dæ dαlus → quick link / Improve 04:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I recently had the AIDS talk sub-pages moved into sequential archives ( Talk:AIDS/NPOV dispute → Talk:AIDS/Archive 6, etc). It looked to have been properly done, but now the indexer bot is creating duplicate entries for all pages that were part of the move (6 and up, current archive). Is there something that needs to be adjusted that is causing the misfire. - Optigan13 ( talk) 04:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
In the current setup, the "sortable" table cannot possibly sort "durations" in any usable way. There is no way to easily distinguish "9 minutes" is shorter than "5 hours and 29 minutes" which is a shorter period of time than "2 days and 9 hours". My impression is that users don't care about the topics that with minutes-length duration, I guess it would be best to use a constant zero-padded days+hours format, respectively: "00 days 00 hours", "00 days 05 hours", "02 days 09 hours". Could you please consider this? -- Kubanczyk ( talk) 10:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Oh, an example of this is Wikipedia talk:Attribution/Archive index. -- Kubanczyk ( talk) 10:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
%%durationsecs%%
replacement string available when creating custom templates - this string will expand to the duration in seconds, which is safely sortable. You can use some of the advice at
Help:Sorting for making an invisible sort key - specifically, making your duration column look something like this should do the trick: <span style="display: none;">%%durationsecs%%</span> %%duration%%
. I don't have an example of it right now (though I just changed my own template to make sure it's working properly - I know I tested it when I added the feature some time back, though), but I'm pretty sure that should work. —
Krellis (
Talk) 15:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I need help renaming about 200 articles. Doing this by hand would take me all day.
Can your bot rename articles, or be adapted to do so?
If so, please contact me.
Thank you.
The Transhumanist 22:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Krellis,
Very cool what you can do with this bot. I have read the information on the HBC Archive Indexerbot page but I have missed anything there which may explain why the bot deleted my archive index. No biggie--I just would like to make sure I have set it up correctly. I had it set up with carriage returns and line feeds after the "|"s to make it easier to edit, but now I have removed them in case that causes a hiccup. Here is what I have now:
{{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=User talk:Newportm/Archives|mask=User talk:Newportm/Archives/2008|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes|template=User:Krellis/archive template}}
does that look right to you? I have it in User:Newportm/Template/Talkheader which is transcluded onto my talk page...is that a problem? Thanks! Newportm ( talk) 01:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, hey! So, got your source code. Got the package I needed ( MediaWiki). Bot running gives Can't locate object method "special_export" via package "MediaWiki" at archivebot.pl line 317 error in a code part, which is responsible for gathering the jobs to be done. Any idea what am I doing wrong? Did I get the wrong package or are you using older version than 1.13? Greetings, Hołek ҉ 12:04, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. One of the AIV helper bots was editing logged out as 208.86.225.40 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS). There was a note on the talk page there that it might be yours. I blocked it for now. Let me - or whoever - know when the bot is logged back in and they'll unblock the IP. Thanks. Wknight94 talk 14:43, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
A while ago, one user reported another on the Vandalism Report Page. Soon after, the one reported vandalized the report, placing someone else - Grawp - in their place, who was perma-blocked, probably erroneously. Attempts to undo the vandalism were met with edit conflicts by your HBC AIV helperbot3, and thus this bot went ahead and banned Grawp. -RadicalOne--- Contact Me 23:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Have you got any time to reply to my question at User_talk:HBC_Archive_Indexerbot#Accent_quirk? ww2censor ( talk) 04:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm redirecting that page here, and have moved all of its old content here as part of that. — Krellis ( Talk) 14:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Hye. The archive bot I use added many sections multiple times into my archives and into different archive pages. The HBC bot then indexed these. I then deleted those archive pages but the redlinks to the sections which no longer exist still appear in my index. I have tried to blank the index to make it start again but it re adds the sections. Is there a way around this? ·Add§hore· Talk/ Cont 08:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey just one question, for the template that goes on my talk page, how do you reccomend I do mine? I'm not the best member ever at using bots and i could use some help. Thanks!-- Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 14:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware that this bot is currently running on an IP account? I haven't blocked it as it doesn't actually appear to be malfunctioning in any way, but you might start getting funny looks soon. – iride scent 23:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
It seem the bot does not understand accented letters because the few wikilinked headers on my talk pages, that are recorded in the "Discussion Topic" column, become mispelled redlinks in the index created by the bot. The problem seems to be that the accented letter get mangled and so the link no longer works. Have a look at the fourth entries in my index at User talk:Ww2censor/Archive/Index to see what I mean though the "Active Link" does work. The third entry, also an accented header, is also curious but with a different result giving an curious topic name and the active link does not work, bring you only to the talk page and not to the actual post. It is not a big deal but it is odd and maybe you did not realise this was happening. Cheers ww2censor ( talk) 13:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm pleased I managed to create an index on the first try, but maybe I used the wrong parameters — each topic is listed twice:
Discussion Topic Replies (estimated) Archive Link "In males, a testosterone patch is applied to the scrotum for several hours before activity."??? Unknown Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1 "In males, a testosterone patch is applied to the scrotum for several hours before activity."??? Unknown Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1 Advanced postnatal effect / bone maturation and termination of growth 4 Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1 Advanced postnatal effect / bone maturation and termination of growth 4 Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1
Q1. How might I correct this, short of manually deleting every other line?
This is what I placed on the page to be indexed (double braces omitted here):
{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1/Index|mask=Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes}
I figured the bot would delete this line after running, so it doesn't process over and over. Q2. Should I remove it myself? — VoxLuna ☾ orbit land 21:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
When there are two section names that are identical except for different capitalisation, the bot is not using an anchor that works. See here, where the previous link to Wikipedia_talk:Civility/Archive_3#Adding_a_link doesnt go to the right section. John Vandenberg ( chat) 07:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Talk:Troll (Internet)/Archive index page exists, but there is nothing on it, although there are two archives on the discussion page. I didn't add the bot, nor am I experienced with bots. As I couldn't see anything obviously wrong with the parameters, I didn't want to interfere with the settings. Can you help when you have a moment, please? Centrepull ( talk) 05:38, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
e.g. Talk:Creation–evolution controversy/Archive index where the bot has never worked, and Talk:Israeli–Palestinian conflict/Archive index where the bot worked once but never again despite changes to the talk page. In the bot log "–" appears as "â". Rami R 11:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm redirecting that page here and have moved the above entries as part of the move. — Krellis ( Talk) 14:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
On some talk pages (e.g. Talk:John Ford), HBACI is not starting indexing:
Why?-- Oneiros ( talk) 13:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I think HBC Archive Indexerbot has gotten confused by my reorganisation of some of the talk page archives at Talk:Homosexuality. I moved archives 11–17 to archives 13–19, and then moved Talk:Homosexuality/Archive11 and Talk:Homosexuality/Archive12 to more standard page titles; the latter pages weren't linked from Talk:Homosexuality before the reshuffle. I also moved a few of the messages at Talk:Homosexuality/Archive 10 to Talk:Homosexuality/Archive 13. I tried blanking the archive index, but the diff between the pre-reshuffle and the current version shows that the index bot has duplicated and removed several topics. I think the index of Talk:Homosexuality needs to be re-generated from scratch in order to fix the mess. What's the best way of doing that? Graham 87 01:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is the bot not writing an index for Talk:Michael Jackson, since I already created the index ( Talk:Michael Jackson/Archive index). and request it here. -- 173.183.102.184 ( talk) 22:19, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Another problem in Talk:Homosexuality/Archive index, which I discovered while doing a diff between the new and old versions, relates to UTF-8 characters in section titles. After the entry for ""taxes on homosexual boy brothels ...", an entry appears titled "लà¥à¤à¥à¤à ...". When I try to click on the link for that section, both Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox 3 crash without an error message, though this may be a problem with my screen reader. However the garbage section title is a problem; the section title following that one is listed as "âSexâ is inherent to meaning of âhomosexualityâ", which is supposed to contain curly quotes. Graham 87 13:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
(Un-indent) Thanks Graham! I'm glad it's working better in the actual index bodies. I did also confirm that those links don't cause any crashing problems for me, so it does sound like the screen reader is contributing to that problem. I've made a change that should fix the edit summary issue, but will have to wait until a run that actually has high-ASCII characters in an edit summary to verify. Thanks a lot for your help with this! — Krellis ( Talk) 13:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Re: the concerns at Talk:John_Adams#Referencing: you along with No Guru ( talk · contribs) and Rjensen ( talk · contribs) appear to have been major contributors in the article's past. Per the those comments linked here and comments made earlier on the talk page, I am attempting to help improve the article in accordance with a requested peer review. It would be greatly appreciated if you could take a look at the concerns and the article to help us figure out how to cite the several unreferenced sections and passages. I have tried to figure out what book(s) are used as sources in those sections but haven't been able to do so. Any help you can offer would be great. I am cc:ing this request to No Guru and Rjensen on their respective talk pages. Thanks – Sswonk ( talk) 04:03, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there—please forgive me if this question has been answered before, but I looked through the archives and didn't see anything. My talk page, User talk:Mononomic, has the HBC Archive Indexerbot code and used to properly archive the page, but does no longer. The last index, according to the index page, was 31 January 2010, and recent logs say "No change, skipping" (and I really, truly do have new changes.) Do you know what's gone wrong? Thanks in advance for your help. — Mono· nomic 17:34, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
All the bots are down. Something to do with the toolserver. See this thread.-- Chaser ( talk) 04:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
MediaWiki's login system was changed to fix a cross-site request forgery vulnerability. Details about the new system are available [ here]. The AIV helperbot source should be upgraded to use the new login method. Reach Out to the Truth 18:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
On a similar note HBC Archive Indexerbot is also down (since 1st feb) ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 13:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
It has not edited since June 6. PleaseStand (talk) 01:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Mlpearc pull my chain 'Tribs 18:39, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Please clear its cache and watchlist, like you did the last time I broke an archive index. I just moved some messages that were improperly archived at Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger/Archive 1 to Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger/Archive 4, and that will probably confuse the bot. Also, Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger/Archive index hasn't been edited since February, even though some sections had been archived into archive 1 after that date. Thanks. Graham 87 08:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that your bot creates an index with all the titles and responses, but are you aware of a tool which can categorize the archives by date? For example, race and intelligence has 82 archives. When I'm looking at a particular section of the history, I know the date and I want to see if discussion occurred in that time period - but there seems to be no precise way to identify which one of the 82 archive pages to look at. This doesn't seem like it would too difficult to program, although I don't have the skills to do it. II | ( t - c) 03:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
It looks like the User:HBC Archive Indexerbot has been running as an IP user - 71.244.123.63 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS). This doesn't seem a good idea to me. -- John of Reading ( talk) 05:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
See Talk:Hijra (South Asia)/Archive index. There are three entries for some thread. Something is wrong. -- Kslotte ( talk) 12:33, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Something is wrong, see Talk:Macedonia_(ancient_kingdom)/Archive_index. Settings seems ok. -- Kslotte ( talk) 21:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
It would be nice if the HBC Archive Indexerbot has more default configurations to make it more simple to implement. The following settings as default: {{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=/Archive index|mask=/Archive <#>|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes}} -- Kslotte ( talk) 21:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Your bot is editing unlogged, see 71.244.123.63. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 19:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to add more information about duplicates to the logging? Currently it only one dublicate entry like "Request on Talk:Light duplicates target Talk:Light/Archive index" is shown. It doesn't tell what is the other entry with same target. Can this information be added? Currently two duplicates (non-User:talk) are unresolved:
-- Kslotte ( talk) 22:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the contributions of 71.244.123.63 I think that you're running HBC Archive Indexerbot not logged in. - EdoDodo talk 13:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Krellis, I'm just wondering why the above archive index pg didn't list any of the subject headings from talk archives 1,2,3 & 4, just only from the talk page? Is it because the target of those archive pages was recently updated by moving them? Thanks for your help! -- Funandtrvl ( talk) 05:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello! First, thanks for handling the care and feeding of HBC Archive Indexerbot. Hugely useful and I'm sure under-appreciated. • But, of course, I'm here because I have a problem: The index at Wikipedia talk:Citation needed/Archive index has a bunch of redlinks to Wikipedia talk:Citation needed/Archive 5. "Archive 5" was mistakenly created; it should have been #1 and has since been moved to Wikipedia talk:Citation needed/Archive 1. However HBCAI doesn't appear to have noticed that. I tried blanking the index, but it just got re-created with the redlinks. Any ideas on what can be done to clue HBCAI in to the change? — DragonHawk ( talk| hist) 19:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Why is Talk:Galileo (satellite navigation)/Archive index empty? Talk:Galileo (satellite navigation)/Archive 1 exists and matches the pattern.-- Oneiros ( talk) 15:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
In Talk:List of cities proper by population/Archive index the bot produces links to non-existing archive pages. Why?-- Oneiros ( talk) 06:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
The indexer bot is claiming to come from 71.244.112.164 rather than being logged in. -- Eraserhead1 < talk> 11:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
FYI, I have started to do clean-up of HBC Archive Indexerbot configs based on log warnings/errors. Feel free to ask here or on my talk page, if someone is wondering what I have done to some specific archive index. -- Kslotte ( talk) 13:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Krellis reponded here about patches. Is the source code available somewhere? -- Kslotte ( talk) 14:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I add some wikilinks. -- Kslotte ( talk) 11:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
See this 7 00:27, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
how do you restart the bot? I mean, I downloaded the source code and was wondering if this happens again, the administrators could block the Ip and I can restart the bot minutes after. if not I was just wondering. -- TalkToMe c intelati 01:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
It's logged out again.-- TalkToMe c intelati 00:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
71.244.119.177 ( talk · contribs · block log). -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
If not logged in, the bot is continuously going to trigger the filter resulting in "Tag: possibly non-minor edit". If nothing can be done, it should probably be resolved at the edit filter itself. mechamind 9 0 01:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
The bot appears to be editing while logged out. I've blocked the IP from which it was editing for 24 hours. Meanwhile, this is being discussed at WP:ANI#Indexer bot is logged out again, where your input would be appreciated. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
This account was indexing archives - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.29.92.238 and has been blocked - 00:12, 16 November 2010 Vianello blocked 24.29.92.238. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Please see this. Had to stop it the hard way. Favonian ( talk) 12:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The IP is now indef blocked - it can edit while logged in. Maybe you should check if you are logged in before every edit?
Note: It was mentioned at WP:ANI. You might want to comment there. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 12:34, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you know, I have temporarily blocked the IP 71.244.115.102 which appears to be used by HBC Archive Indexerbot when logged out. -- Ed ( Edgar181) 00:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄ (background check) 07:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
As soon as one-month block of 71.244.115.102 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) expired, the bot started doing its stuff anonymously. It has now been blocked for three months, hoping that the problem can be fixed in the meantime. Happy New Year, bots and people! Favonian ( talk) 12:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed it hasn't been indexing pages lately. Also, if you get a chance, could you check the template on my talk page out to make sure it'll work? The bot (for the one day it was working and I had the template) seemed to ignore it. demize ( t · c) 14:47, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Please observe code at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Posttraumatic_stress_disorder&action=edit - after many attempts I admit defeat. I cannot see how to get the bot to index ALL the index pages. I THINK I'm very carefully following the instructions - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HBC_Archive_Indexerbot#Instructions - but the results I'm getting - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Posttraumatic_stress_disorder/Archive_index - say otherwise. Any help offered would be much appreciated!
Tom Cloyd ( talk) 07:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi and thanks for the Archive Indexerbot! I was looking today at Talk:Autism/Archive_index and found a discussion " Symptoms" that was listed as being both on the current Talk page and Archive 12. The index said "Report generated at 12:34, 22 April 2011 (UTC) by HBCAI." The threads were added to the index by Mizabot I at 2:05 am and deleted from the main talk page at 2:06. that same day. I'm surprised that it showed both pages as the location of the discussion. You may want to look more closely at the caching system to see if there's a bug revealed by this border case. Thanks again! WBTtheFROG ( talk) 02:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
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Could you also consider monitoring Wikipedia:Usernames for administrator attention/holding pen to remove usernames that eventually get blocked? -- Step hen 09:14, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
Some recent attempts at bad username generation have added accents to characters to obfuscate English words.
A quick look at User:H/HBC_MCP/NameWatcher suggests NameWatcherBot does not strip accents before attempting to match patterns from the blacklist.
To prevent this sort of obfuscation, I suggest the bot should, in addition to any other string normalization prior to comparison, remove accents by first performing Unicode NFKD normalization, which splits accented characters into base characters and combining accents, and then removing all combining characters (which are those in the ranges from 0x300 to 0x36f inclusive and from 0x1dc0 to 0x1dff inclusive) from the result. -- The Anome ( talk) 11:56, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I've noticed that your bot (HBC Namewatcher) does remove offensive names, but doesn't notice tweaked names like User:Ffuk1 I suggest the regxps ought to be modified to accomodate these names. ManishEarth Talk • Stalk 13:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
Hi - just wondering, has anything changed with the helperbot's threshold for a backlog recently? I've been reporting items here and I realize it's early in US/UK - but just seems like it's been a while since an admin was there. Maybe it's just a quantity threshold, and not a time/age threshold, but it just seems like with some of the age and severity of these it should have been listed as a backlog earlier. Thanks in advance. 7 09:18, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
I know the formatting sucks, and the sorting isn't working, I will fix that when I have time. If you have a suggestion for the formatting go ahead and make it. As for the sorting, I thought I had it working but I will have to fiddle some more later. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 16:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
How about a table for formatting? Without taking the time to edit every single entry, I did a couple of rows from the WWII index at User:Krellis/Sandbox. You'll note I added a feature request there, too - I'm not sure if it's really possible, but it would be neat to try to include an estimate of the number of replies in a given section. One way to try to approximate it would be the number of times "UTC" appears in the section - not perfect, by any means, but it might work. Or you could go by changes in indentation level. As long as you indicate somewhere that it's approximate, that probably wouldn't matter too much. Of course, I have no idea how difficult it would be to actually implement :) The table with alternating row backgrounds still might be at least somewhat of an improvement from the current style, since it will keep all of the links together in a row and help prevent items from running together. — Krellis 23:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
Are there any specifications on what the target can be. I am trying to put it on Talk:Aang/Archive Topics. Would Aang/Archive Topics work too. If so, which one would be better? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Parent5446 ( talk • contribs) 21:35, November 18, 2007 UTC
Hello. The HBCAIB didn't index some of my talk page articles. Can you please fix that for me? Thanks. Sincerely, Sir Intellegence - smartr tahn eaver!!!! 00:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
Ummmm... What I meant is that it didn't index all of the sections in my archive(s). Can you please fix that. Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Sir Intellegence - smartr tahn eaver!!!! 00:23, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
When the bot creates sortable boxes (like one located here), make the "replies" section's number two-digit, i.e. 01, 05, 11, ect. It would make the sorting so much better. Thanks. Pbroks13 ( talk) 05:15, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
Hi there! First, let me just commend you on writing an incredibly useful bot! The ability to quickly survey current and past discussion is tremendously useful. • But, of course, I have a question: In my watchlist, most work done by robots is flagged as a "bot edit". There's a little black "b" next to the entry, and bot edits can be shown or hidden. HBCAI's edits don't appear to get marked that way. No "b", and they always show. Is this a known issue? • To try and help out, I went looking for information on how those edits get so marked. Unfortunately, I can't find anything. Not a word. :( — DragonHawk ( talk| hist) 18:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Since an index of the hundreds of archive pages of the administrators noticeboard and ANI is virtually unusable (my browser has trouble even attempting to sort the table) do you think a combined index could be made of the last half-dozen or so archives of AN and ANI? — Random832 17:37, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
I'm trying to set up the bot to archive the (as yet non-existent) archives for WP:MUSEUMS. I created the target but I'm a little lost on masks and stuff. Do I have to do numerical archives or can it be monthly? I ask because I'm not sure how to set up numericals, but I can c/p the source for the monthly archive from my own talk, which I set up for MiszaBot. I'm aiming for a 30 day archive time. Thanks! TRAVELLINGCARI My story Tell me yours 18:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
{{User:MiszaBot/config |maxarchivesize = 75K |counter = 2 |algo = old(30d) |archive = User talk:Krellis/Archive/Archive %(counter)d }} {{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn |target=./Archive |mask=/Archive/Archive <#> |leading_zeros=0 |indexhere=yes |template=User:Krellis/archive template }}
For some reason the bot is linking to a non-existant article here, even though I have my archives on the page User_talk:Daedalus969/Archives/1. Currently, I have manually fixed the links, and undid the edit by the bot as it messes them up. What is wrong here? I can't get it to work.— Dæ dαlus → quick link / Improve 04:47, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
I recently had the AIDS talk sub-pages moved into sequential archives ( Talk:AIDS/NPOV dispute → Talk:AIDS/Archive 6, etc). It looked to have been properly done, but now the indexer bot is creating duplicate entries for all pages that were part of the move (6 and up, current archive). Is there something that needs to be adjusted that is causing the misfire. - Optigan13 ( talk) 04:47, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
In the current setup, the "sortable" table cannot possibly sort "durations" in any usable way. There is no way to easily distinguish "9 minutes" is shorter than "5 hours and 29 minutes" which is a shorter period of time than "2 days and 9 hours". My impression is that users don't care about the topics that with minutes-length duration, I guess it would be best to use a constant zero-padded days+hours format, respectively: "00 days 00 hours", "00 days 05 hours", "02 days 09 hours". Could you please consider this? -- Kubanczyk ( talk) 10:42, 8 June 2008 (UTC) Oh, an example of this is Wikipedia talk:Attribution/Archive index. -- Kubanczyk ( talk) 10:44, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
%%durationsecs%%
replacement string available when creating custom templates - this string will expand to the duration in seconds, which is safely sortable. You can use some of the advice at
Help:Sorting for making an invisible sort key - specifically, making your duration column look something like this should do the trick: <span style="display: none;">%%durationsecs%%</span> %%duration%%
. I don't have an example of it right now (though I just changed my own template to make sure it's working properly - I know I tested it when I added the feature some time back, though), but I'm pretty sure that should work. —
Krellis (
Talk) 15:34, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
I need help renaming about 200 articles. Doing this by hand would take me all day.
Can your bot rename articles, or be adapted to do so?
If so, please contact me.
Thank you.
The Transhumanist 22:40, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Krellis,
Very cool what you can do with this bot. I have read the information on the HBC Archive Indexerbot page but I have missed anything there which may explain why the bot deleted my archive index. No biggie--I just would like to make sure I have set it up correctly. I had it set up with carriage returns and line feeds after the "|"s to make it easier to edit, but now I have removed them in case that causes a hiccup. Here is what I have now:
{{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=User talk:Newportm/Archives|mask=User talk:Newportm/Archives/2008|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes|template=User:Krellis/archive template}}
does that look right to you? I have it in User:Newportm/Template/Talkheader which is transcluded onto my talk page...is that a problem? Thanks! Newportm ( talk) 01:01, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, hey! So, got your source code. Got the package I needed ( MediaWiki). Bot running gives Can't locate object method "special_export" via package "MediaWiki" at archivebot.pl line 317 error in a code part, which is responsible for gathering the jobs to be done. Any idea what am I doing wrong? Did I get the wrong package or are you using older version than 1.13? Greetings, Hołek ҉ 12:04, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
Hi. One of the AIV helper bots was editing logged out as 208.86.225.40 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS). There was a note on the talk page there that it might be yours. I blocked it for now. Let me - or whoever - know when the bot is logged back in and they'll unblock the IP. Thanks. Wknight94 talk 14:43, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
A while ago, one user reported another on the Vandalism Report Page. Soon after, the one reported vandalized the report, placing someone else - Grawp - in their place, who was perma-blocked, probably erroneously. Attempts to undo the vandalism were met with edit conflicts by your HBC AIV helperbot3, and thus this bot went ahead and banned Grawp. -RadicalOne--- Contact Me 23:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
Have you got any time to reply to my question at User_talk:HBC_Archive_Indexerbot#Accent_quirk? ww2censor ( talk) 04:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
I'm redirecting that page here, and have moved all of its old content here as part of that. — Krellis ( Talk) 14:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
Hye. The archive bot I use added many sections multiple times into my archives and into different archive pages. The HBC bot then indexed these. I then deleted those archive pages but the redlinks to the sections which no longer exist still appear in my index. I have tried to blank the index to make it start again but it re adds the sections. Is there a way around this? ·Add§hore· Talk/ Cont 08:25, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Hey just one question, for the template that goes on my talk page, how do you reccomend I do mine? I'm not the best member ever at using bots and i could use some help. Thanks!-- Ezekiel 7:19 †alk 14:17, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
Are you aware that this bot is currently running on an IP account? I haven't blocked it as it doesn't actually appear to be malfunctioning in any way, but you might start getting funny looks soon. – iride scent 23:52, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
It seem the bot does not understand accented letters because the few wikilinked headers on my talk pages, that are recorded in the "Discussion Topic" column, become mispelled redlinks in the index created by the bot. The problem seems to be that the accented letter get mangled and so the link no longer works. Have a look at the fourth entries in my index at User talk:Ww2censor/Archive/Index to see what I mean though the "Active Link" does work. The third entry, also an accented header, is also curious but with a different result giving an curious topic name and the active link does not work, bring you only to the talk page and not to the actual post. It is not a big deal but it is odd and maybe you did not realise this was happening. Cheers ww2censor ( talk) 13:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
I'm pleased I managed to create an index on the first try, but maybe I used the wrong parameters — each topic is listed twice:
Discussion Topic Replies (estimated) Archive Link "In males, a testosterone patch is applied to the scrotum for several hours before activity."??? Unknown Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1 "In males, a testosterone patch is applied to the scrotum for several hours before activity."??? Unknown Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1 Advanced postnatal effect / bone maturation and termination of growth 4 Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1 Advanced postnatal effect / bone maturation and termination of growth 4 Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1
Q1. How might I correct this, short of manually deleting every other line?
This is what I placed on the page to be indexed (double braces omitted here):
{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1/Index|mask=Talk:Testosterone/Archive 1|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes}
I figured the bot would delete this line after running, so it doesn't process over and over. Q2. Should I remove it myself? — VoxLuna ☾ orbit land 21:51, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
When there are two section names that are identical except for different capitalisation, the bot is not using an anchor that works. See here, where the previous link to Wikipedia_talk:Civility/Archive_3#Adding_a_link doesnt go to the right section. John Vandenberg ( chat) 07:38, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Hi, Talk:Troll (Internet)/Archive index page exists, but there is nothing on it, although there are two archives on the discussion page. I didn't add the bot, nor am I experienced with bots. As I couldn't see anything obviously wrong with the parameters, I didn't want to interfere with the settings. Can you help when you have a moment, please? Centrepull ( talk) 05:38, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
e.g. Talk:Creation–evolution controversy/Archive index where the bot has never worked, and Talk:Israeli–Palestinian conflict/Archive index where the bot worked once but never again despite changes to the talk page. In the bot log "–" appears as "â". Rami R 11:24, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
I'm redirecting that page here and have moved the above entries as part of the move. — Krellis ( Talk) 14:02, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
On some talk pages (e.g. Talk:John Ford), HBACI is not starting indexing:
Why?-- Oneiros ( talk) 13:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
I think HBC Archive Indexerbot has gotten confused by my reorganisation of some of the talk page archives at Talk:Homosexuality. I moved archives 11–17 to archives 13–19, and then moved Talk:Homosexuality/Archive11 and Talk:Homosexuality/Archive12 to more standard page titles; the latter pages weren't linked from Talk:Homosexuality before the reshuffle. I also moved a few of the messages at Talk:Homosexuality/Archive 10 to Talk:Homosexuality/Archive 13. I tried blanking the archive index, but the diff between the pre-reshuffle and the current version shows that the index bot has duplicated and removed several topics. I think the index of Talk:Homosexuality needs to be re-generated from scratch in order to fix the mess. What's the best way of doing that? Graham 87 01:57, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
Why is the bot not writing an index for Talk:Michael Jackson, since I already created the index ( Talk:Michael Jackson/Archive index). and request it here. -- 173.183.102.184 ( talk) 22:19, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
Another problem in Talk:Homosexuality/Archive index, which I discovered while doing a diff between the new and old versions, relates to UTF-8 characters in section titles. After the entry for ""taxes on homosexual boy brothels ...", an entry appears titled "लà¥à¤à¥à¤à ...". When I try to click on the link for that section, both Internet Explorer 7 and Firefox 3 crash without an error message, though this may be a problem with my screen reader. However the garbage section title is a problem; the section title following that one is listed as "âSexâ is inherent to meaning of âhomosexualityâ", which is supposed to contain curly quotes. Graham 87 13:09, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
(Un-indent) Thanks Graham! I'm glad it's working better in the actual index bodies. I did also confirm that those links don't cause any crashing problems for me, so it does sound like the screen reader is contributing to that problem. I've made a change that should fix the edit summary issue, but will have to wait until a run that actually has high-ASCII characters in an edit summary to verify. Thanks a lot for your help with this! — Krellis ( Talk) 13:43, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
Re: the concerns at Talk:John_Adams#Referencing: you along with No Guru ( talk · contribs) and Rjensen ( talk · contribs) appear to have been major contributors in the article's past. Per the those comments linked here and comments made earlier on the talk page, I am attempting to help improve the article in accordance with a requested peer review. It would be greatly appreciated if you could take a look at the concerns and the article to help us figure out how to cite the several unreferenced sections and passages. I have tried to figure out what book(s) are used as sources in those sections but haven't been able to do so. Any help you can offer would be great. I am cc:ing this request to No Guru and Rjensen on their respective talk pages. Thanks – Sswonk ( talk) 04:03, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
Hi there—please forgive me if this question has been answered before, but I looked through the archives and didn't see anything. My talk page, User talk:Mononomic, has the HBC Archive Indexerbot code and used to properly archive the page, but does no longer. The last index, according to the index page, was 31 January 2010, and recent logs say "No change, skipping" (and I really, truly do have new changes.) Do you know what's gone wrong? Thanks in advance for your help. — Mono· nomic 17:34, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
All the bots are down. Something to do with the toolserver. See this thread.-- Chaser ( talk) 04:20, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
MediaWiki's login system was changed to fix a cross-site request forgery vulnerability. Details about the new system are available [ here]. The AIV helperbot source should be upgraded to use the new login method. Reach Out to the Truth 18:50, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
On a similar note HBC Archive Indexerbot is also down (since 1st feb) ·Add§hore· Talk To Me! 13:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
It has not edited since June 6. PleaseStand (talk) 01:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
Mlpearc pull my chain 'Tribs 18:39, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
Please clear its cache and watchlist, like you did the last time I broke an archive index. I just moved some messages that were improperly archived at Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger/Archive 1 to Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger/Archive 4, and that will probably confuse the bot. Also, Talk:Arnold Schwarzenegger/Archive index hasn't been edited since February, even though some sections had been archived into archive 1 after that date. Thanks. Graham 87 08:10, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I noticed that your bot creates an index with all the titles and responses, but are you aware of a tool which can categorize the archives by date? For example, race and intelligence has 82 archives. When I'm looking at a particular section of the history, I know the date and I want to see if discussion occurred in that time period - but there seems to be no precise way to identify which one of the 82 archive pages to look at. This doesn't seem like it would too difficult to program, although I don't have the skills to do it. II | ( t - c) 03:16, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
It looks like the User:HBC Archive Indexerbot has been running as an IP user - 71.244.123.63 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS). This doesn't seem a good idea to me. -- John of Reading ( talk) 05:37, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
See Talk:Hijra (South Asia)/Archive index. There are three entries for some thread. Something is wrong. -- Kslotte ( talk) 12:33, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Something is wrong, see Talk:Macedonia_(ancient_kingdom)/Archive_index. Settings seems ok. -- Kslotte ( talk) 21:36, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
It would be nice if the HBC Archive Indexerbot has more default configurations to make it more simple to implement. The following settings as default: {{User:HBC Archive Indexerbot/OptIn|target=/Archive index|mask=/Archive <#>|leading_zeros=0|indexhere=yes}} -- Kslotte ( talk) 21:17, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
Your bot is editing unlogged, see 71.244.123.63. -- Enric Naval ( talk) 19:14, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Is it possible to add more information about duplicates to the logging? Currently it only one dublicate entry like "Request on Talk:Light duplicates target Talk:Light/Archive index" is shown. It doesn't tell what is the other entry with same target. Can this information be added? Currently two duplicates (non-User:talk) are unresolved:
-- Kslotte ( talk) 22:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
Looking at the contributions of 71.244.123.63 I think that you're running HBC Archive Indexerbot not logged in. - EdoDodo talk 13:26, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Hi Krellis, I'm just wondering why the above archive index pg didn't list any of the subject headings from talk archives 1,2,3 & 4, just only from the talk page? Is it because the target of those archive pages was recently updated by moving them? Thanks for your help! -- Funandtrvl ( talk) 05:33, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Hello! First, thanks for handling the care and feeding of HBC Archive Indexerbot. Hugely useful and I'm sure under-appreciated. • But, of course, I'm here because I have a problem: The index at Wikipedia talk:Citation needed/Archive index has a bunch of redlinks to Wikipedia talk:Citation needed/Archive 5. "Archive 5" was mistakenly created; it should have been #1 and has since been moved to Wikipedia talk:Citation needed/Archive 1. However HBCAI doesn't appear to have noticed that. I tried blanking the index, but it just got re-created with the redlinks. Any ideas on what can be done to clue HBCAI in to the change? — DragonHawk ( talk| hist) 19:58, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
Why is Talk:Galileo (satellite navigation)/Archive index empty? Talk:Galileo (satellite navigation)/Archive 1 exists and matches the pattern.-- Oneiros ( talk) 15:32, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
In Talk:List of cities proper by population/Archive index the bot produces links to non-existing archive pages. Why?-- Oneiros ( talk) 06:33, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
The indexer bot is claiming to come from 71.244.112.164 rather than being logged in. -- Eraserhead1 < talk> 11:43, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
FYI, I have started to do clean-up of HBC Archive Indexerbot configs based on log warnings/errors. Feel free to ask here or on my talk page, if someone is wondering what I have done to some specific archive index. -- Kslotte ( talk) 13:03, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
Krellis reponded here about patches. Is the source code available somewhere? -- Kslotte ( talk) 14:29, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
I add some wikilinks. -- Kslotte ( talk) 11:12, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
See this 7 00:27, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
how do you restart the bot? I mean, I downloaded the source code and was wondering if this happens again, the administrators could block the Ip and I can restart the bot minutes after. if not I was just wondering. -- TalkToMe c intelati 01:02, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
It's logged out again.-- TalkToMe c intelati 00:15, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
71.244.119.177 ( talk · contribs · block log). -- zzuuzz (talk) 11:54, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
If not logged in, the bot is continuously going to trigger the filter resulting in "Tag: possibly non-minor edit". If nothing can be done, it should probably be resolved at the edit filter itself. mechamind 9 0 01:30, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
The bot appears to be editing while logged out. I've blocked the IP from which it was editing for 24 hours. Meanwhile, this is being discussed at WP:ANI#Indexer bot is logged out again, where your input would be appreciated. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 00:51, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
This account was indexing archives - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.29.92.238 and has been blocked - 00:12, 16 November 2010 Vianello blocked 24.29.92.238. Ronhjones (Talk) 00:19, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
Please see this. Had to stop it the hard way. Favonian ( talk) 12:43, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
The IP is now indef blocked - it can edit while logged in. Maybe you should check if you are logged in before every edit?
Note: It was mentioned at WP:ANI. You might want to comment there. -- Dirk Beetstra T C 12:34, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to let you know, I have temporarily blocked the IP 71.244.115.102 which appears to be used by HBC Archive Indexerbot when logged out. -- Ed ( Edgar181) 00:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. --- cymru lass (hit me up)⁄ (background check) 07:46, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
As soon as one-month block of 71.244.115.102 ( talk · contribs · WHOIS) expired, the bot started doing its stuff anonymously. It has now been blocked for three months, hoping that the problem can be fixed in the meantime. Happy New Year, bots and people! Favonian ( talk) 12:01, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
I've noticed it hasn't been indexing pages lately. Also, if you get a chance, could you check the template on my talk page out to make sure it'll work? The bot (for the one day it was working and I had the template) seemed to ignore it. demize ( t · c) 14:47, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
Please observe code at http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Talk:Posttraumatic_stress_disorder&action=edit - after many attempts I admit defeat. I cannot see how to get the bot to index ALL the index pages. I THINK I'm very carefully following the instructions - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:HBC_Archive_Indexerbot#Instructions - but the results I'm getting - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Posttraumatic_stress_disorder/Archive_index - say otherwise. Any help offered would be much appreciated!
Tom Cloyd ( talk) 07:07, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
Hi and thanks for the Archive Indexerbot! I was looking today at Talk:Autism/Archive_index and found a discussion " Symptoms" that was listed as being both on the current Talk page and Archive 12. The index said "Report generated at 12:34, 22 April 2011 (UTC) by HBCAI." The threads were added to the index by Mizabot I at 2:05 am and deleted from the main talk page at 2:06. that same day. I'm surprised that it showed both pages as the location of the discussion. You may want to look more closely at the caching system to see if there's a bug revealed by this border case. Thanks again! WBTtheFROG ( talk) 02:03, 25 April 2011 (UTC)