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Dear editor I like to draw your attention to that specific article, Dorje Shugden, which was substantially changed by a group of three new editors, without any discussion on the talk page. Rather one of the new editor revealed: "Many of these changes were discussed between at least three of the editors." which must have happened outside of WP, because there is no discussion on the talk page or their WP-accounts. One of the new editors claimed: "You seem to be the only person who accepted this article as it was. If you check you will see that the changes made make this article more neutral and unbiased then it was before previous edits." If I check I see the article omitted different POV's, deleted verified passages, included passages from anonymous websites and turned the article to a more bias Pro-Shugden POV. I'd like to ask you to check that and to give your opinion or to collaborate if there is a need for improving the article, so that we can have an unbiased, neutral, well-informed article which fairly presents all POV's. Thank you very much, -- Kt66 ( talk) 19:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there a reason that you're depopulating? - jc37 05:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
How do you edit user pages, by hand or by bot/script? - LA @ 09:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I see that you've removed Category:Greek Wikipedians from Template:User Greek, with an edit summary of: "removing deleted cat."
Needless to say, it hasn't been deleted, or even nominated for deletion in the last week or so.
And I can't find the category deleted in this edit or this edit, among many others.
I'm concerned now.
What's going on? - jc37 18:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I've commented at User_talk:Black_Falcon#AWB_concerns. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
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Do you know that you should not link years by themselves? You should only link 3 December 1986, like so.
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Hi. You may want to pay a little closer to the time stamp on CFD speedies. They are supposed to be up for 48 hours before being handled. This one wasn't. As of this notice, it still had roughly 8 hours to go.-- Rockfang ( talk) 06:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, you moved articles like Assyrians/Syrians in Germany to Assyrians and Syrians in Germany with the comment: remove hierarchy. Should articles Assyrians/Syriacs in Lebanon, Assyrians/Syriacs in Syria, Assyrians/Syriacs in Sweden and Assyrians in Turkey also be moved to new titles like Assyrians and Syriacs in ... ? AramaeanSyriac ( talk) 14:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Justin, regarding the Shugden Article, there is a Western group which makes claims of "banning" and "persecution" which is a theory of that group. They are very powerful making Media campaigns, and past press articles found out, that almost nothing they claimed were true (The Guardian). Now they started again a media campaign and of course whish to put it in that article. I have nothing against it, but it must also be wighted by evidence, and what they claims contradicts all other sources, as it was also in the past. About their actual campaign and view have reported only two very minor (as far as I can see) online press articles. My request to you is: how deals WP with that? Can you offer advise at the talk page? You can see in the history how I changed Truthsayer62's inclusion. Do you think the addition of the POV template is reasonable? Thank you very much, -- Kt66 ( talk) 17:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Hy dude, i'm new at this, i guess i would like for you to help me. How do you merge two articles? Because Cayo Sila Godoy and Sila Godoy talk of the same guy. Thanks, greetings from Paraguay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fernando B. ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Could you please clarify what you mean by the db tag on this image? J Milburn ( talk) 17:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
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Why do you keep deleting my post? ( Dude7324 ( talk) 06:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC))
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Hi, Koavf. I noticed that in the MILF discussion, you emptied the category out of sequence. While clearly this category will be deleted, possibly speedily, I don't understand your constant compulsion to act before the discussion has closed. This is going to get you banned if you keep it up. It's strange to me, because your intentions are clearly in the right place, and you're usually right on point. But you're making people—including me—upset for what appears to be no good reason. Getting banned for doing things everyone will eventually want done makes no sense to me. User:Good Olfactory has asked you to stop, User:Jc37 has asked you to stop, and now I'm asking you to stop. I'd like you to consider heeding our advice, or I expect the next person to comment will do so by cutting off your editing privileges. That can't be what you want, right?-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 14:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
For the record, I read what you wrote over at Mike's, and I agree. Without sourcing, I have no problem removing an article from a category. The MILF category definitely falls under that, and is almost guaranteed to go. But seeing as there was a CFD that was ongoing, people have the right to know what they are discussing. There are some people that like to keep even a category like that. A better solution would have been to just join the discussion, pointing to any number of reasons for deletion. -- Kbdank71 20:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Let me make sure I understand that. So even though something is currently under discussion, you feel that any editor may take action even while the discussion is ongoing, just because that editor makes the personal decision that their action is "appropriate" based on an incomplete discussion, or their own choice?
In other words, just because you may be doing what you may think is right, doesn't necessarily mean that the 'community may agree. We are a community, after all. (Which is part of "why" we discuss, and have such tools as determination of consensus or WP:BRD.)
And I note that he didn't first snow close the discussion as delete. Which is something he isn't supposed to do anyway as a non-admin - though noting that I've seen you strongly argue against that, Tony. So you'll please pardon me if I weigh your comments in that light.
So no notice. (Snowing the discussion, or even noting "somewhere" a BLP closure/deletion.) No asking anyone else to take such an action. (He was just in a discussion concerning his potential mis-use of tools, which involved several admins. Surely he could have asked at least one of them - including me - to take action if it was so vital to act "now".) So no, this would seem to be just a pre-emptive action, with the rest being just "fluff". - jc37 08:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, in Your recent edit to the Michael Chopra article why did you remove the category? Bit Lordy ( talk) 23:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I am wondering why you removed the category:Jainism from this article. I am sure you must have a good reason, but I am curious to know. Secondly what is the significance in in changing the quotes from “ to ". Any stylistic concerns ? Do let me know. Thanks-- Anish ( talk) 03:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I've noticed that you have deleted some "Redundant Categories" lately and while there are a few that I agree with, there are others that I wanted to get your opinion on concerning the secondary categorization rule. Mainly it is the deletion of "American Businesspeople" and/or "African-Americans" for articles also tagged with "African-American businesspeople." It might seem redundant at first, but redundancy is based off how people search for articles.
When an article is put into a subcategory based on an attribute that is not the first thing most people would think of to categorise it, it should be left in the parent category as well.
This includes articles placed in ethnic subcategories within national menus, for example articles in Category:African American baseball players should also be left in Category:American baseball players.( WP:SUBCAT)
I undid a couple already that were on my watchlist, but I wanted to see if you agreed before I continued. Thanks! Krushdiva ( talk) 07:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an
edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to
Bob Barr. Thank you.
[1]
[2] I eventually summized you were removing the article from parent catagories of
Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives from Georgia, of which the article is also a member. I agree with that change; thanks for doing it. I'm still learning, so actions like that are puzzling without a summary. -
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You did it again. This one has 14 hours to go yet.-- Rockfang ( talk) 07:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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I noticed that you were adding comments to the move: Ukrainian John Peel Sessions → Українські Виступи в Івана Піла in the "Contested" section. As it says,
So if you wish to indicate support for the move, your only choice is to create a full move request. Anything else is just deleted in five days. I occasionally rescue requests out of the contested section, but never on the basis of anyone else's comments, only on my own view of the merits of the move. I would hope that anyone else would do the same. By the way I really see no hope for the move. It isn't even in the English alphabet, let alone the English language. Many users computers can not display cyrillic, and they come out only as ????? question marks. Oddly, mine now does display cyrillic, I have no idea why, it wasn't that long ago that I was trying to figure out how to get it to do so. 199.125.109.126 ( talk) 17:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Koavf
You removed the "DC Titles" category from V for Vendetta as it's "redundant" - I can't see another cat that would cover this cat, could you clarify?
Cheers! This flag once was red 20:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you please stop removing [3] the "surfbreaks" entry [4] from the CFD:speedy listings? Listings should only be removed once they are "dealt with", i.e., (1) renamed; (2) withdrawn; or (3) moved to a full CFD. You are simply removing it from the listing but doing nothing else — the CFD speedy rename tag is still on the category and it's not been added to full. If you are not going to add it to the full listing, please leave it alone until someone else does. Simply removing it from the listing accomplishes nothing and is not helpful. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Koav, I noticed you were working on category changes for the World history maps I uploaded. if it needed done, I thank you for doing so. Is there anything I can do in the future when uploading or categorizing the maps, to save you trouble next time? Thomas Lessman ( talk) 12:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't agree that the Category:American basketball players is redundant. That category doesn't define "Players in US basketball leagues." The subcategories of Category:National Basketball Association players and Category:Women's National Basketball Association players are not reserved for Americans; Pau Gasol and Lauren Jackson aren't Americans, and they're in those categories. So there is now no category that claims these players are Americans. I would suggest reverting those changes and changing the header on Category:American basketball players. Just my opinion.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 00:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- When an article is put into a subcategory based on an attribute that is not the first thing most people would think of to categorise it, it should be left in the parent category as well. This includes articles placed in ethnic subcategories within national menus, for example articles in Category:African American baseball players should also be left in Category:American baseball players.
Comment Hello. I see that you've taken hours to remove hundreds of articles from Category:American soccer players, and I see this discussion. So let me chime in with my opinions on this.
From your quote: "Surely, I would think of Michael Jordan as a basketball player prior to thinking of him as a specifically American basketball player, right?"
One question I guess what you're implicitly asking is if we're putting Michael Jordan in Category:American basketball players, why not go further and put it in Category:Basketball players also? Or perhaps Category:American sportspeople, or to the extreme, just plain Category:People?
My understanding is this. The value of having categories at the bottom of the page is for readers to find articles that are similar to the ones they're currently reading. So the value of having Category:American basketball players is that if they're reading the article of Michael Jordan, they may be interested in reading about other American basketball players, such as say Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
So in some way your issues are legit. Certainly a reader can be interested in reading about another basketball player of any nationality, or another American sportsman, or just another random person (although that would be a bit stupid). The problem is, these categories tend to blow up in size very quickly, making navigation very difficult. So the consensus seems to be that the <nationality + occupation> categories balance similarity and size quite nicely. It is also extremely natural. Almost every article about a person start with "XXX is an American basketball player" or "YYY is a Spanish politician". You seldom see just "XXX is a basketball player" or "YYY is Spanish". And for your concern that people wouldn't know what categories they should add, I think almost everybody who has edited or read a few articles on Wikipedia know that the <nationality + occupation> categories are a staple of Wikipedia categorization, so your argument doesn't hold here. And as for you not thinking primarily of Michael Jordan as an "American basketball player", I think if you're asking people from outside the United States, he's certainly thought of as an "American basketball player", just as you would consider Pau Gasol a "Spanish basketball player", so please don't be American-centric here.
Another question you're posing is basically, why have the redundant categories of both Category:Basketball players from North Carolina and Category:American basketball players in the same page? My answer is this. Assume you're reading about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and now you click on Category:American basketball players, and then you ask "hey, where is Michael Jordan? I don't see him here." Actually, he's somewhere in one of the subcategories, Category:Basketball players from North Carolina. Yes, there's a way you can find him, but that would make navigation by category quite counter-intuitive to many users. So that's why there's this statement:
This is to make navigation through the categories helpful to the Wikipedia users, so they can easily access the other similar articles.
The final question is, say if we create the categories for basketball players of all 50 states, should we just move everybody to the subcategories and empty out Category:American basketball players? Perhaps. But for me, a basketball player is rarely connected with the state he/she comes from. Contrary to, say politicians, where you usually know the state he/she is associated with. So the <state + basketball player> categories are much less helpful than the <nationality + basketball player> categories.
In some ways, I understand many of your concerns. I think there are a lot inconsistency in the categorization scheme, not to mention there are just way too many useless and overspecialized categories out there. However, before you unilaterally proceed with these edits with such a huge scale, it would be nice that you consult with the guidelines and other editors and perhaps think it through before you proceed. The guidelines, however you disagree with them (I disagree with many of them), are there for some reasons that must be thought about by other people, that perhaps you haven't thought about. Chanheigeorge ( talk) 01:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions and comments, which are very much appreciated.
Splitting the article: Yes. Since January that has been my opinion, but I do not understand the process. Since your comments, I did research in order to learn the procedures regarding the splitting of an article, without much success. If you or someone else will split the article into several articles with a disambiguity page, that would be a very welcome contribution. Would such a splitting be likely? I left my preferences for the new titles, etc., at the Discussion page there.
For the time being, I regularly check on it. Thanks. Elfelix ( talk) 23:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the Category:Lords Lieutenant of the Isle of Wight change, but see my recent addition at the top of WP:CFDS. This change may not need to wait the 48 hours, as I mentioned there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. You can either add a speedy deletion tag, as you did, or you can go to the CfD manual work page - WP:CFD/W/M - and add the category to the "Ready for deletion" section. Thanks again and all the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
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Dear editor I like to draw your attention to that specific article, Dorje Shugden, which was substantially changed by a group of three new editors, without any discussion on the talk page. Rather one of the new editor revealed: "Many of these changes were discussed between at least three of the editors." which must have happened outside of WP, because there is no discussion on the talk page or their WP-accounts. One of the new editors claimed: "You seem to be the only person who accepted this article as it was. If you check you will see that the changes made make this article more neutral and unbiased then it was before previous edits." If I check I see the article omitted different POV's, deleted verified passages, included passages from anonymous websites and turned the article to a more bias Pro-Shugden POV. I'd like to ask you to check that and to give your opinion or to collaborate if there is a need for improving the article, so that we can have an unbiased, neutral, well-informed article which fairly presents all POV's. Thank you very much, -- Kt66 ( talk) 19:39, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
Is there a reason that you're depopulating? - jc37 05:53, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
How do you edit user pages, by hand or by bot/script? - LA @ 09:46, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I see that you've removed Category:Greek Wikipedians from Template:User Greek, with an edit summary of: "removing deleted cat."
Needless to say, it hasn't been deleted, or even nominated for deletion in the last week or so.
And I can't find the category deleted in this edit or this edit, among many others.
I'm concerned now.
What's going on? - jc37 18:55, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
I've commented at User_talk:Black_Falcon#AWB_concerns. Good Ol’factory (talk) 02:30, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Please leave my user page alone. Thanks. Paul Beardsell ( talk) 02:06, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
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- Tinucherian ( talk) 14:23, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
Do you know that you should not link years by themselves? You should only link 3 December 1986, like so.
Just a reminder, do not make any category moves unless the original category has been tagged for renaming (speedy or regular). If necessary, tag the category and relist it at CFD for two more days, so people have a chance to comment if they want to. Thanks! -- Kbdank71 18:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
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Hi. You may want to pay a little closer to the time stamp on CFD speedies. They are supposed to be up for 48 hours before being handled. This one wasn't. As of this notice, it still had roughly 8 hours to go.-- Rockfang ( talk) 06:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, you moved articles like Assyrians/Syrians in Germany to Assyrians and Syrians in Germany with the comment: remove hierarchy. Should articles Assyrians/Syriacs in Lebanon, Assyrians/Syriacs in Syria, Assyrians/Syriacs in Sweden and Assyrians in Turkey also be moved to new titles like Assyrians and Syriacs in ... ? AramaeanSyriac ( talk) 14:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
Hi Justin, regarding the Shugden Article, there is a Western group which makes claims of "banning" and "persecution" which is a theory of that group. They are very powerful making Media campaigns, and past press articles found out, that almost nothing they claimed were true (The Guardian). Now they started again a media campaign and of course whish to put it in that article. I have nothing against it, but it must also be wighted by evidence, and what they claims contradicts all other sources, as it was also in the past. About their actual campaign and view have reported only two very minor (as far as I can see) online press articles. My request to you is: how deals WP with that? Can you offer advise at the talk page? You can see in the history how I changed Truthsayer62's inclusion. Do you think the addition of the POV template is reasonable? Thank you very much, -- Kt66 ( talk) 17:25, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
Hy dude, i'm new at this, i guess i would like for you to help me. How do you merge two articles? Because Cayo Sila Godoy and Sila Godoy talk of the same guy. Thanks, greetings from Paraguay. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fernando B. ( talk • contribs) 20:50, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Could you please clarify what you mean by the db tag on this image? J Milburn ( talk) 17:34, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Hello! I've been getting a fair amount of commentary [ here] and [ here] regarding this map. Although I put together the initial map, I have other priorities at the moment. As someone deeply interested in the subject, would you or someone you know be interested in making any necessary edits? Thanks. Konchevnik81 ( talk) 20:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
Why do you keep deleting my post? ( Dude7324 ( talk) 06:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC))
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Hi,
after reading
Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/MUSTARD#Capitalization you should realise that a capitalised “the” is wrong in a lemma like this for
Meet the Eels. –(
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01:34, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, Koavf. I noticed that in the MILF discussion, you emptied the category out of sequence. While clearly this category will be deleted, possibly speedily, I don't understand your constant compulsion to act before the discussion has closed. This is going to get you banned if you keep it up. It's strange to me, because your intentions are clearly in the right place, and you're usually right on point. But you're making people—including me—upset for what appears to be no good reason. Getting banned for doing things everyone will eventually want done makes no sense to me. User:Good Olfactory has asked you to stop, User:Jc37 has asked you to stop, and now I'm asking you to stop. I'd like you to consider heeding our advice, or I expect the next person to comment will do so by cutting off your editing privileges. That can't be what you want, right?-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 14:51, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
For the record, I read what you wrote over at Mike's, and I agree. Without sourcing, I have no problem removing an article from a category. The MILF category definitely falls under that, and is almost guaranteed to go. But seeing as there was a CFD that was ongoing, people have the right to know what they are discussing. There are some people that like to keep even a category like that. A better solution would have been to just join the discussion, pointing to any number of reasons for deletion. -- Kbdank71 20:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
Let me make sure I understand that. So even though something is currently under discussion, you feel that any editor may take action even while the discussion is ongoing, just because that editor makes the personal decision that their action is "appropriate" based on an incomplete discussion, or their own choice?
In other words, just because you may be doing what you may think is right, doesn't necessarily mean that the 'community may agree. We are a community, after all. (Which is part of "why" we discuss, and have such tools as determination of consensus or WP:BRD.)
And I note that he didn't first snow close the discussion as delete. Which is something he isn't supposed to do anyway as a non-admin - though noting that I've seen you strongly argue against that, Tony. So you'll please pardon me if I weigh your comments in that light.
So no notice. (Snowing the discussion, or even noting "somewhere" a BLP closure/deletion.) No asking anyone else to take such an action. (He was just in a discussion concerning his potential mis-use of tools, which involved several admins. Surely he could have asked at least one of them - including me - to take action if it was so vital to act "now".) So no, this would seem to be just a pre-emptive action, with the rest being just "fluff". - jc37 08:22, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hello, in Your recent edit to the Michael Chopra article why did you remove the category? Bit Lordy ( talk) 23:22, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi, I am wondering why you removed the category:Jainism from this article. I am sure you must have a good reason, but I am curious to know. Secondly what is the significance in in changing the quotes from “ to ". Any stylistic concerns ? Do let me know. Thanks-- Anish ( talk) 03:40, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
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Hi, I've noticed that you have deleted some "Redundant Categories" lately and while there are a few that I agree with, there are others that I wanted to get your opinion on concerning the secondary categorization rule. Mainly it is the deletion of "American Businesspeople" and/or "African-Americans" for articles also tagged with "African-American businesspeople." It might seem redundant at first, but redundancy is based off how people search for articles.
When an article is put into a subcategory based on an attribute that is not the first thing most people would think of to categorise it, it should be left in the parent category as well.
This includes articles placed in ethnic subcategories within national menus, for example articles in Category:African American baseball players should also be left in Category:American baseball players.( WP:SUBCAT)
I undid a couple already that were on my watchlist, but I wanted to see if you agreed before I continued. Thanks! Krushdiva ( talk) 07:40, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an
edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to
Bob Barr. Thank you.
[1]
[2] I eventually summized you were removing the article from parent catagories of
Category:Members of the United States House of Representatives from Georgia, of which the article is also a member. I agree with that change; thanks for doing it. I'm still learning, so actions like that are puzzling without a summary. -
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00:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
You did it again. This one has 14 hours to go yet.-- Rockfang ( talk) 07:04, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
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I noticed that you were adding comments to the move: Ukrainian John Peel Sessions → Українські Виступи в Івана Піла in the "Contested" section. As it says,
So if you wish to indicate support for the move, your only choice is to create a full move request. Anything else is just deleted in five days. I occasionally rescue requests out of the contested section, but never on the basis of anyone else's comments, only on my own view of the merits of the move. I would hope that anyone else would do the same. By the way I really see no hope for the move. It isn't even in the English alphabet, let alone the English language. Many users computers can not display cyrillic, and they come out only as ????? question marks. Oddly, mine now does display cyrillic, I have no idea why, it wasn't that long ago that I was trying to figure out how to get it to do so. 199.125.109.126 ( talk) 17:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Koavf
You removed the "DC Titles" category from V for Vendetta as it's "redundant" - I can't see another cat that would cover this cat, could you clarify?
Cheers! This flag once was red 20:16, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
Would you please stop removing [3] the "surfbreaks" entry [4] from the CFD:speedy listings? Listings should only be removed once they are "dealt with", i.e., (1) renamed; (2) withdrawn; or (3) moved to a full CFD. You are simply removing it from the listing but doing nothing else — the CFD speedy rename tag is still on the category and it's not been added to full. If you are not going to add it to the full listing, please leave it alone until someone else does. Simply removing it from the listing accomplishes nothing and is not helpful. Good Ol’factory (talk) 08:51, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
Hi Koav, I noticed you were working on category changes for the World history maps I uploaded. if it needed done, I thank you for doing so. Is there anything I can do in the future when uploading or categorizing the maps, to save you trouble next time? Thomas Lessman ( talk) 12:37, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
I don't agree that the Category:American basketball players is redundant. That category doesn't define "Players in US basketball leagues." The subcategories of Category:National Basketball Association players and Category:Women's National Basketball Association players are not reserved for Americans; Pau Gasol and Lauren Jackson aren't Americans, and they're in those categories. So there is now no category that claims these players are Americans. I would suggest reverting those changes and changing the header on Category:American basketball players. Just my opinion.-- Mike Selinker ( talk) 00:28, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
- When an article is put into a subcategory based on an attribute that is not the first thing most people would think of to categorise it, it should be left in the parent category as well. This includes articles placed in ethnic subcategories within national menus, for example articles in Category:African American baseball players should also be left in Category:American baseball players.
Comment Hello. I see that you've taken hours to remove hundreds of articles from Category:American soccer players, and I see this discussion. So let me chime in with my opinions on this.
From your quote: "Surely, I would think of Michael Jordan as a basketball player prior to thinking of him as a specifically American basketball player, right?"
One question I guess what you're implicitly asking is if we're putting Michael Jordan in Category:American basketball players, why not go further and put it in Category:Basketball players also? Or perhaps Category:American sportspeople, or to the extreme, just plain Category:People?
My understanding is this. The value of having categories at the bottom of the page is for readers to find articles that are similar to the ones they're currently reading. So the value of having Category:American basketball players is that if they're reading the article of Michael Jordan, they may be interested in reading about other American basketball players, such as say Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
So in some way your issues are legit. Certainly a reader can be interested in reading about another basketball player of any nationality, or another American sportsman, or just another random person (although that would be a bit stupid). The problem is, these categories tend to blow up in size very quickly, making navigation very difficult. So the consensus seems to be that the <nationality + occupation> categories balance similarity and size quite nicely. It is also extremely natural. Almost every article about a person start with "XXX is an American basketball player" or "YYY is a Spanish politician". You seldom see just "XXX is a basketball player" or "YYY is Spanish". And for your concern that people wouldn't know what categories they should add, I think almost everybody who has edited or read a few articles on Wikipedia know that the <nationality + occupation> categories are a staple of Wikipedia categorization, so your argument doesn't hold here. And as for you not thinking primarily of Michael Jordan as an "American basketball player", I think if you're asking people from outside the United States, he's certainly thought of as an "American basketball player", just as you would consider Pau Gasol a "Spanish basketball player", so please don't be American-centric here.
Another question you're posing is basically, why have the redundant categories of both Category:Basketball players from North Carolina and Category:American basketball players in the same page? My answer is this. Assume you're reading about Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and now you click on Category:American basketball players, and then you ask "hey, where is Michael Jordan? I don't see him here." Actually, he's somewhere in one of the subcategories, Category:Basketball players from North Carolina. Yes, there's a way you can find him, but that would make navigation by category quite counter-intuitive to many users. So that's why there's this statement:
This is to make navigation through the categories helpful to the Wikipedia users, so they can easily access the other similar articles.
The final question is, say if we create the categories for basketball players of all 50 states, should we just move everybody to the subcategories and empty out Category:American basketball players? Perhaps. But for me, a basketball player is rarely connected with the state he/she comes from. Contrary to, say politicians, where you usually know the state he/she is associated with. So the <state + basketball player> categories are much less helpful than the <nationality + basketball player> categories.
In some ways, I understand many of your concerns. I think there are a lot inconsistency in the categorization scheme, not to mention there are just way too many useless and overspecialized categories out there. However, before you unilaterally proceed with these edits with such a huge scale, it would be nice that you consult with the guidelines and other editors and perhaps think it through before you proceed. The guidelines, however you disagree with them (I disagree with many of them), are there for some reasons that must be thought about by other people, that perhaps you haven't thought about. Chanheigeorge ( talk) 01:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for your suggestions and comments, which are very much appreciated.
Splitting the article: Yes. Since January that has been my opinion, but I do not understand the process. Since your comments, I did research in order to learn the procedures regarding the splitting of an article, without much success. If you or someone else will split the article into several articles with a disambiguity page, that would be a very welcome contribution. Would such a splitting be likely? I left my preferences for the new titles, etc., at the Discussion page there.
For the time being, I regularly check on it. Thanks. Elfelix ( talk) 23:27, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for doing the Category:Lords Lieutenant of the Isle of Wight change, but see my recent addition at the top of WP:CFDS. This change may not need to wait the 48 hours, as I mentioned there. Good Ol’factory (talk) 22:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
Thank you very much. You can either add a speedy deletion tag, as you did, or you can go to the CfD manual work page - WP:CFD/W/M - and add the category to the "Ready for deletion" section. Thanks again and all the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:29, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
I can see that you have made substantial contributions to wiki and have an interest and understanding of Philosophy. Hence I request your assistance to make this article as a featured article. Users, Alastair Haines ( talk · contribs), Qmwne235 ( talk · contribs) Ruhrfisch ( talk · contribs) have made a lot of improvements, but I still need more assistance which would be appreciated. Anekantavada is the most important principle of Jain philosophy and I hope it will be the first article on Jainism to qualify as FA. Thanks.
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