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Kleinzach - Thanks for all your previous help. Nrswanson has made the following statements on the talk page. Sure makes me look bad. He is welcome to his opinion, but now I feel this is inappropriate and suspect it borders on slander. Please advise on what an editor can do if he/she has this concern.
Entire article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kathleen_Battle
Hrannar ( talk) 13:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar
I don't know if you remember this, but you were quite right to "assume bad faith" about that User:Gretab [1]. "She" is now permanently banned by Moreschi as a sock puppet and a troll. -- Folantin ( talk) 10:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
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The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
This is an award to you Kleinzach for your consistant excellent work at the opera project as both an editor and what I would call one of our unofficial leaders. I appreciate everything you do. Nrswanson ( talk) 11:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC) |
Hello Kleinzach. Thanks for your note regarding my edit to The Tales of Hoffman. I read it and reread it and I couldn't get that item to make sense. I appreciate your note about the theatre fire as learning new things is one of the joys of editing here. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 05:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer on date formats. Magicpiano ( talk) 15:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know and I will use the banner accordingly. Also, I prefer not to assess articles I have created or substantially worked on. That way I get some feddback from anoth editor. Nrswanson ( talk) 01:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, thanks for the welcome I just saw it; shows how much I pay attention. :D I'll be looking at doing bot runs more regularly in the next few months I hope, between trying to recover and school starting up in a few days I have a pretty full load right now. Thanks again for the welcome! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 17:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, do you know what
Man of La Mancha is actually, an opera or musical theatre?
Domingo recorded this album (audio CD) released in 1996 opposite
Julia Migenes-Johnson,
Samuel Ramey,
Rosalind Elias and many more (
Recording detail from Amazon.com). I am not sure whether to place this album under "Opera recordings" or "Music recordings". -
Jay (
talk)
05:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Helo. I just thought I'd let you know I'm trying to revert the changes you made to Carlo Bergonzi. If you have a look at WP:MOSDAB, it states that a disambiguation page should be at the person's name, e.g. John Smith, unlss one is far more famous thn the others, i which case he would have the artile 'John Smith' and the dab would be at 'John Smith (disambiguation)'. I just thought I'd let you know the reason. Thanks, Boleyn ( talk) 05:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll request an admin make the change, leave it with me. Boleyn ( talk) 05:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I've requested the move, though apparently there is a backlog. I had to put signs on both pages to let people know what we're doing, but it should all besorted within a couple of days. Boleyn ( talk) 05:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, can you tell what will be appropriate translation of Wissenschaftliches Institut zur Erforschung der Tabakgefahren - Scientific Institute for the Study of Tobacco Hazards, Institute for the Struggle Against Tobacco Hazards or Institute for Tobacco Hazards Research? Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 07:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I just signed up for Grove online. That should help. Thanks for catching those errrors. I assumed (incorrectly) that Stanford would have gone to more care putting together such an extensive resource. Also, I was just purusing the composer wikiproject mainpage and several of the links to the operaproject discussion on infoboxes don't work (they go to uncreated pages). I figured you might know where they should be linking to. Nrswanson ( talk) 08:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Per the Proposed Deletion guidelines, contested PRODs may be recreated by request, as anybody, including the original author, could have contested its deletion. Feel free to AFD it, as the user was informed that doing so would be a possibility. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 02:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I do think the gentleman named Rob McAlear who keeps on posting his not so flattering photo of Isabel Bayrakdarian is trying to discredit her. I do ask that the photo not be used. And it is very easy to ask her agent or her webmaster permission for one her numerous publicity shots to be posted on her wikipedia page. Their information can be found on her website in the contact section.
www.bayrakdarian.com
In the meantime, I have removed the photo. 11:34, 28 August 2008 User:Pashabaran (Talk | contribs)
Sorry for that. Dont know how it got deleted when I added Ponchielli's. - Jay ( talk) 05:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed you put up Rhiannon Thomas for deletion. Could you explain why it's being deleted? Also, could you reply on my talk page instead of this one. Thanks.-- Andrzejestrować Zajaczajkowski Plecaxpiwórserafinowiczaświadzenie Poświadczyxwiadectwo-Bjornovich ( talk) ( contributions) 08:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed you thought I created the article. Check the history section of Rhiannon Thomas (without the link). If you still thought I created it, I suggest you go on Wikibreak or something. Also, reply on my talkpage if you're going to reply at all.-- Andrzejestrować ZP Pbjornovich ( talk) ( contributions) ( email) 14:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
It's a matter of consistency: on the Offenbach page, Stage Works are divided into Operettas, Opera and Derivative works [BTW, isn't there C20 operatic concoction called Robinson Crusoe as well as the ballet?], and Operettas points to the list. That's why I removed Hoffmann. A List of stage works by Offenbach could include it. Or indeed a List of operas, since the dividing line is unclear. -- Guillaume Tell 15:13, 28 August 2008 (UTC) (Off for a week in the Highlands in late September - it'll be the first time I've been north of Loch Lomond!)
Here is the Polacca from the opera "Le Trompeur Trompe" by Pierre Gaveaux : [2] It is from [3], here is the recording information. The source is Al Goldstein Pandora Records music collection, and the licence is {{ OAL}} at commons - just put that intot he "Permissions" box.
I have far more things to work on than I could ever do. So I'm going to be evil. =) Poke me if you have any trouble. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 12:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I see you have just written the following one-line articles on Vivaldi operas: Scanderbeg (Opera), Tieteberga, Il vinto trionfante del vincitore, Arsilda, regina di Ponto, and Nerone fatto Cesare. I'm a bit puzzled as to why you didn't keep these in userspace. Could you possibly let me know - perhaps at the Opera Project - what you intentions are regarding these articles? Thanks and best wishes. -- Klein zach 00:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC) P.S. None of these titles are covered in the New Grove. -- Klein zach 01:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
To answer your original post. We put one-line information about minor, lost, unperformed operas in the composer's biographical article. That's where the reader will find them. When you say "I believe . . . that every Vivaldi opera is worthy of an article", do you mean every opera he wrote? Do you realize that half his operas are lost? Also a number of them were revived under multiple titles (e.g. Artabano, re de' Parti)? Please see the detailed lists in the French and Italian wikipedias. -- Klein zach 04:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Can you tweak the notice in the lower right? It's overlapping people's statements and your replies. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 05:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
How can one create a page? For example in the case of Isabel Bayrakdarian, when you search her last name it shows this message "No article title matches No page with that title exists."
Can the search lead to her page directly?
Thank you.
Canadaartistfan1 ( talk) 14:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Have another look at this. Durova bungled the description rather badly - I've fixed it - but I think it's useful as an examle of how opera was popularised during that period. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 06:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
[Unindent] I'm not sure we need to rename the file - it is, for some extent of "is", the Hunter's chorus, insofar as that's how people describe instrumental works. But I have fixed the description throughout. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 13:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
On a cheerier note, you did ask for Carlos Gardel... =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 13:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I've found a duet between Caruso and Melba, Image:Enrico Caruso - Nellie Melba - La Boheme - O soave fanciulla.ogg, in shockingly good condition, save a few clicks in the first minute. I'm going to run this past Vassyana (who is a genius at cleaning up sound files) and then nominate it =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 11:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not finding anything by her worth uploading at the moment - unless you really like hearing good contraltos paired with utter incompetents, in which case this is for you. There's a CD reissue of her work but at $50, it's a bit out of my price range. Pity, as I'd love to get that Tennyson/Sullivan track "Will he come?" from the end of it. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 17:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
YOu may want to consider moving this back - I named it so because some day someone may want to write on John Casken's opera of the same name.............-- Smerus ( talk) 08:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
This is a Wikipedia
user talk page. This is not an encyclopedia article or the talk page for an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than Wikipedia, you are viewing a mirror site. Be aware that the page may be outdated and that the user in whose space this page is located may have no personal affiliation with any site other than Wikipedia. The original talk page is located at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Kleinzach/Archive_17. |
![]() | This is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Archive 10 | ← | Archive 15 | Archive 16 | Archive 17 | Archive 18 | Archive 19 | Archive 20 |
Kleinzach - Thanks for all your previous help. Nrswanson has made the following statements on the talk page. Sure makes me look bad. He is welcome to his opinion, but now I feel this is inappropriate and suspect it borders on slander. Please advise on what an editor can do if he/she has this concern.
Entire article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Kathleen_Battle
Hrannar ( talk) 13:31, 13 August 2008 (UTC)Hrannar
I don't know if you remember this, but you were quite right to "assume bad faith" about that User:Gretab [1]. "She" is now permanently banned by Moreschi as a sock puppet and a troll. -- Folantin ( talk) 10:02, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
![]() |
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar | |
This is an award to you Kleinzach for your consistant excellent work at the opera project as both an editor and what I would call one of our unofficial leaders. I appreciate everything you do. Nrswanson ( talk) 11:59, 14 August 2008 (UTC) |
Hello Kleinzach. Thanks for your note regarding my edit to The Tales of Hoffman. I read it and reread it and I couldn't get that item to make sense. I appreciate your note about the theatre fire as learning new things is one of the joys of editing here. Thanks again and cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 05:45, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer on date formats. Magicpiano ( talk) 15:04, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know and I will use the banner accordingly. Also, I prefer not to assess articles I have created or substantially worked on. That way I get some feddback from anoth editor. Nrswanson ( talk) 01:01, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey there, thanks for the welcome I just saw it; shows how much I pay attention. :D I'll be looking at doing bot runs more regularly in the next few months I hope, between trying to recover and school starting up in a few days I have a pretty full load right now. Thanks again for the welcome! §hep • ¡Talk to me! 17:06, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, do you know what
Man of La Mancha is actually, an opera or musical theatre?
Domingo recorded this album (audio CD) released in 1996 opposite
Julia Migenes-Johnson,
Samuel Ramey,
Rosalind Elias and many more (
Recording detail from Amazon.com). I am not sure whether to place this album under "Opera recordings" or "Music recordings". -
Jay (
talk)
05:24, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Helo. I just thought I'd let you know I'm trying to revert the changes you made to Carlo Bergonzi. If you have a look at WP:MOSDAB, it states that a disambiguation page should be at the person's name, e.g. John Smith, unlss one is far more famous thn the others, i which case he would have the artile 'John Smith' and the dab would be at 'John Smith (disambiguation)'. I just thought I'd let you know the reason. Thanks, Boleyn ( talk) 05:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I'll request an admin make the change, leave it with me. Boleyn ( talk) 05:48, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I've requested the move, though apparently there is a backlog. I had to put signs on both pages to let people know what we're doing, but it should all besorted within a couple of days. Boleyn ( talk) 05:58, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi, can you tell what will be appropriate translation of Wissenschaftliches Institut zur Erforschung der Tabakgefahren - Scientific Institute for the Study of Tobacco Hazards, Institute for the Struggle Against Tobacco Hazards or Institute for Tobacco Hazards Research? Otolemur crassicaudatus ( talk) 07:24, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
I just signed up for Grove online. That should help. Thanks for catching those errrors. I assumed (incorrectly) that Stanford would have gone to more care putting together such an extensive resource. Also, I was just purusing the composer wikiproject mainpage and several of the links to the operaproject discussion on infoboxes don't work (they go to uncreated pages). I figured you might know where they should be linking to. Nrswanson ( talk) 08:51, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Per the Proposed Deletion guidelines, contested PRODs may be recreated by request, as anybody, including the original author, could have contested its deletion. Feel free to AFD it, as the user was informed that doing so would be a possibility. - Rjd0060 ( talk) 02:29, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
I do think the gentleman named Rob McAlear who keeps on posting his not so flattering photo of Isabel Bayrakdarian is trying to discredit her. I do ask that the photo not be used. And it is very easy to ask her agent or her webmaster permission for one her numerous publicity shots to be posted on her wikipedia page. Their information can be found on her website in the contact section.
www.bayrakdarian.com
In the meantime, I have removed the photo. 11:34, 28 August 2008 User:Pashabaran (Talk | contribs)
Sorry for that. Dont know how it got deleted when I added Ponchielli's. - Jay ( talk) 05:15, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed you put up Rhiannon Thomas for deletion. Could you explain why it's being deleted? Also, could you reply on my talk page instead of this one. Thanks.-- Andrzejestrować Zajaczajkowski Plecaxpiwórserafinowiczaświadzenie Poświadczyxwiadectwo-Bjornovich ( talk) ( contributions) 08:58, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
Hello. I noticed you thought I created the article. Check the history section of Rhiannon Thomas (without the link). If you still thought I created it, I suggest you go on Wikibreak or something. Also, reply on my talkpage if you're going to reply at all.-- Andrzejestrować ZP Pbjornovich ( talk) ( contributions) ( email) 14:43, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
It's a matter of consistency: on the Offenbach page, Stage Works are divided into Operettas, Opera and Derivative works [BTW, isn't there C20 operatic concoction called Robinson Crusoe as well as the ballet?], and Operettas points to the list. That's why I removed Hoffmann. A List of stage works by Offenbach could include it. Or indeed a List of operas, since the dividing line is unclear. -- Guillaume Tell 15:13, 28 August 2008 (UTC) (Off for a week in the Highlands in late September - it'll be the first time I've been north of Loch Lomond!)
Here is the Polacca from the opera "Le Trompeur Trompe" by Pierre Gaveaux : [2] It is from [3], here is the recording information. The source is Al Goldstein Pandora Records music collection, and the licence is {{ OAL}} at commons - just put that intot he "Permissions" box.
I have far more things to work on than I could ever do. So I'm going to be evil. =) Poke me if you have any trouble. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 12:01, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi. I see you have just written the following one-line articles on Vivaldi operas: Scanderbeg (Opera), Tieteberga, Il vinto trionfante del vincitore, Arsilda, regina di Ponto, and Nerone fatto Cesare. I'm a bit puzzled as to why you didn't keep these in userspace. Could you possibly let me know - perhaps at the Opera Project - what you intentions are regarding these articles? Thanks and best wishes. -- Klein zach 00:49, 30 August 2008 (UTC) P.S. None of these titles are covered in the New Grove. -- Klein zach 01:27, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
To answer your original post. We put one-line information about minor, lost, unperformed operas in the composer's biographical article. That's where the reader will find them. When you say "I believe . . . that every Vivaldi opera is worthy of an article", do you mean every opera he wrote? Do you realize that half his operas are lost? Also a number of them were revived under multiple titles (e.g. Artabano, re de' Parti)? Please see the detailed lists in the French and Italian wikipedias. -- Klein zach 04:56, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Can you tweak the notice in the lower right? It's overlapping people's statements and your replies. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 05:02, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Hello,
How can one create a page? For example in the case of Isabel Bayrakdarian, when you search her last name it shows this message "No article title matches No page with that title exists."
Can the search lead to her page directly?
Thank you.
Canadaartistfan1 ( talk) 14:55, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
Have another look at this. Durova bungled the description rather badly - I've fixed it - but I think it's useful as an examle of how opera was popularised during that period. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 06:23, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
[Unindent] I'm not sure we need to rename the file - it is, for some extent of "is", the Hunter's chorus, insofar as that's how people describe instrumental works. But I have fixed the description throughout. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 13:34, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
On a cheerier note, you did ask for Carlos Gardel... =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 13:32, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
I've found a duet between Caruso and Melba, Image:Enrico Caruso - Nellie Melba - La Boheme - O soave fanciulla.ogg, in shockingly good condition, save a few clicks in the first minute. I'm going to run this past Vassyana (who is a genius at cleaning up sound files) and then nominate it =) Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 11:14, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
I'm not finding anything by her worth uploading at the moment - unless you really like hearing good contraltos paired with utter incompetents, in which case this is for you. There's a CD reissue of her work but at $50, it's a bit out of my price range. Pity, as I'd love to get that Tennyson/Sullivan track "Will he come?" from the end of it. Shoemaker's Holiday ( talk) 17:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
YOu may want to consider moving this back - I named it so because some day someone may want to write on John Casken's opera of the same name.............-- Smerus ( talk) 08:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)