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I cannot find any rule about listing years for long lasting conflicts. They are not listed by decades like you said. I do not see why adding the conflict category for the relevant years would be over categorization. This way people see that it occurred at the same time as, say, the Angolan and Mozambique Civil War, South African Border War etc, so it shows the larger historical and geopolitical context. All of these are list by year.-- Bellerophon5685 ( talk) 23:52, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
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I saw this on your BoonDock's talk page and thought I would add my 2c. As BoonDock says there is a lot of overlap. Even the rank insignia carried over for a while before being replaced. Equipment such as the Ratel started with the SADF and continued to the SANDF. I would be opposed to the creation of categories as we could have duplication or miscategorisation. Gbawden ( talk) 12:56, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
Hello Katangais, how are you? I have just opened a peer review for Paul Kruger and I thought that you, as something of an Afrikanophile, might be interested. Any thoughts you may have would be very gratefully received. Thanks and have a great week. — Cliftonian (talk) 12:05, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
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Just dropping notes to all the peer reviewers that Uncle Paul is now at FAC here. Hope you're well, cheers — Cliftonian (talk) 13:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Don't you think it's better to refer precisely to the state entity "Dutch Cape Colony" for statistics which were probably measured only within its bounds, rather than "Cape" which constitutes an ambiguous region? For example, Dutch Cape Colony had an administrative division called "District of the Cape". We must be careful not to let loss of precision chip away over the years at Wikipedia articles about history. What do you think? -- BurritoBazooka ( talk) 01:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
During our debate of last year you noted that most of the ancestors of the Trekboers were from German families, but in one place you note that they were mostly from Lower Saxony while in another place you note that the German ancestors of modern day combined White Afrikaans people go back to folks from Rhine-Westphalia. I realize that these areas are close to one another, but I am interested in where you think the roots of the Germans who significantly helped to create the Trekboers were from. I have always been told & have read that the Germans that the Trekboers were from were mostly from the north western part of the modern day German State [ as of course there was no modern day German State back during the 17th cent. ] so the states you mentioned sounds about where one would expect they would be from, but tracking down an exact location has often been difficult. You noted that you had a list of the names of the folks [ as per the site you linked to ] who started the Trekboers. How did you obtain these names? As I would like to examine them too. I would be very interested in looking at the names of the folks who started the Trekboers but noticed that the site you linked to has a list of a lot of names that were the progenitors of the macro White Afrikaans speaking population in general. I am interested in sifting out the names of the initial progenitors of the Trekboer group. Thanks for any assistance or direction.
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I saw your edit summary that it was "rather erroneous to describe it as 'a guerrilla war in the 1970s'". Yes and no. Black nationalist guerrilla incursions from Zambia started at a low level around 1964—before UDI, it should be noted—but from the Rhodesian government's point of view it was essentially just a police action until the attack on Altena farm in December 1972. This is, I believe, usually regarded as the start of the war "proper", and of the main guerrilla phase. The period during which the Rhodesian government was seriously at war was roughly 1975–79. So while the Chimurenga campaign was 1964 to 1979, to say the war was in the 1970s isn't, in my view, totally incorrect. Cheers and I hope you're well. — Cliftonian (talk) 08:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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Howzit Katangais, I know you're always interested in Rhodesian things, so I just thought I'd give you a nudge to the William Harper FAC here... any thoughts you may have would be very welcome. Cheers, — Cliftonian (talk) 09:50, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
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I saw this on your BoonDock's talk page and thought I would add my 2c. As BoonDock says there is a lot of overlap. Even the rank insignia carried over for a while before being replaced. Equipment such as the Ratel started with the SADF and continued to the SANDF. I would be opposed to the creation of categories as we could have duplication or miscategorisation. Gbawden ( talk) 12:56, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
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Just dropping notes to all the peer reviewers that Uncle Paul is now at FAC here. Hope you're well, cheers — Cliftonian (talk) 13:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
Don't you think it's better to refer precisely to the state entity "Dutch Cape Colony" for statistics which were probably measured only within its bounds, rather than "Cape" which constitutes an ambiguous region? For example, Dutch Cape Colony had an administrative division called "District of the Cape". We must be careful not to let loss of precision chip away over the years at Wikipedia articles about history. What do you think? -- BurritoBazooka ( talk) 01:53, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
During our debate of last year you noted that most of the ancestors of the Trekboers were from German families, but in one place you note that they were mostly from Lower Saxony while in another place you note that the German ancestors of modern day combined White Afrikaans people go back to folks from Rhine-Westphalia. I realize that these areas are close to one another, but I am interested in where you think the roots of the Germans who significantly helped to create the Trekboers were from. I have always been told & have read that the Germans that the Trekboers were from were mostly from the north western part of the modern day German State [ as of course there was no modern day German State back during the 17th cent. ] so the states you mentioned sounds about where one would expect they would be from, but tracking down an exact location has often been difficult. You noted that you had a list of the names of the folks [ as per the site you linked to ] who started the Trekboers. How did you obtain these names? As I would like to examine them too. I would be very interested in looking at the names of the folks who started the Trekboers but noticed that the site you linked to has a list of a lot of names that were the progenitors of the macro White Afrikaans speaking population in general. I am interested in sifting out the names of the initial progenitors of the Trekboer group. Thanks for any assistance or direction.
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I saw your edit summary that it was "rather erroneous to describe it as 'a guerrilla war in the 1970s'". Yes and no. Black nationalist guerrilla incursions from Zambia started at a low level around 1964—before UDI, it should be noted—but from the Rhodesian government's point of view it was essentially just a police action until the attack on Altena farm in December 1972. This is, I believe, usually regarded as the start of the war "proper", and of the main guerrilla phase. The period during which the Rhodesian government was seriously at war was roughly 1975–79. So while the Chimurenga campaign was 1964 to 1979, to say the war was in the 1970s isn't, in my view, totally incorrect. Cheers and I hope you're well. — Cliftonian (talk) 08:41, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
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