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22:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
The first thing to say is that, though it is not made as clear as it should be to new users, Wikipedia is not a place for people or companies to tell the world about themselves. There are plenty of sites like Myspace and Facebook for that, but Wikipedia is different. In particular, it is not here to help the "up and coming" to become well-known; they must be well-known before they have an article here, so that can be based on independent comment about them from reliable sources, not on their own story.
Though writing about yourself or your own company is strongly discouraged, it is not absolutely prohibited. There is excellent advice from a very experienced Wikipedian at User:Uncle G/On notability#Writing about subjects close to you:
When writing about subjects that are close to you, don't use your own personal knowledge of the subject, and don't cite yourself, your web site, or the subject's web site. Instead, use what is written about the subject by other people, independently, as your sources. Cite those sources in your very first edit. If you don't have such sources, don't write.
I have to say that, based on the article and on your note, I agree with the contributors to the AfD that your website has some way to go before it becomes notable in Wikipedia's sense. Having interviewed notable people does not make you notable, nor do mentions like "Kallum - Mosh News Founder". What is needed is references that discuss Mosh News in some depth - see WP:Notability (summary). Large numbers of trivial or local references do not make up for that (see WP:AMOUNT).
I have conversations like this so often that have written User:JohnCD/Advice to save writing it all out again each time.
You may have another try, if you want, though my advice is that you will be wasting your time. If you do, you should not post it directly (a) because of your COI, and (b) because having been deleted after the deletion discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Mosh News it requires permission from me as the closing administrator. If you make a draft, contact me with a link to it; I may agree to it being posted, but I am more likely to tell you to go to WP:Deletion review, which is the place to appeal deletion decisions.
Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 22:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I presume you are the same person as user Kallumgreen ( talk · contribs), and probable also user MoshNewsFAN ( talk · contribs) from two years ago. If so, please choose one account and stick to that one, to avoid suspicion of "sockpuppetry". JohnCD ( talk) 22:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Kallumwgreen, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few links to pages you might find helpful:
- Getting started
- Introduction to Wikipedia
- The five pillars of Wikipedia
- How to edit a page and How to develop articles
- How to create your first article
- Simplified Manual of Style
Please remember to
sign your messages on
talk pages by typing four
tildes (~~~~); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out
Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place {{Help me}} before the question. Again, welcome!
JohnCD (
talk)
22:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
The first thing to say is that, though it is not made as clear as it should be to new users, Wikipedia is not a place for people or companies to tell the world about themselves. There are plenty of sites like Myspace and Facebook for that, but Wikipedia is different. In particular, it is not here to help the "up and coming" to become well-known; they must be well-known before they have an article here, so that can be based on independent comment about them from reliable sources, not on their own story.
Though writing about yourself or your own company is strongly discouraged, it is not absolutely prohibited. There is excellent advice from a very experienced Wikipedian at User:Uncle G/On notability#Writing about subjects close to you:
When writing about subjects that are close to you, don't use your own personal knowledge of the subject, and don't cite yourself, your web site, or the subject's web site. Instead, use what is written about the subject by other people, independently, as your sources. Cite those sources in your very first edit. If you don't have such sources, don't write.
I have to say that, based on the article and on your note, I agree with the contributors to the AfD that your website has some way to go before it becomes notable in Wikipedia's sense. Having interviewed notable people does not make you notable, nor do mentions like "Kallum - Mosh News Founder". What is needed is references that discuss Mosh News in some depth - see WP:Notability (summary). Large numbers of trivial or local references do not make up for that (see WP:AMOUNT).
I have conversations like this so often that have written User:JohnCD/Advice to save writing it all out again each time.
You may have another try, if you want, though my advice is that you will be wasting your time. If you do, you should not post it directly (a) because of your COI, and (b) because having been deleted after the deletion discussion at WP:Articles for deletion/Mosh News it requires permission from me as the closing administrator. If you make a draft, contact me with a link to it; I may agree to it being posted, but I am more likely to tell you to go to WP:Deletion review, which is the place to appeal deletion decisions.
Regards, JohnCD ( talk) 22:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
I presume you are the same person as user Kallumgreen ( talk · contribs), and probable also user MoshNewsFAN ( talk · contribs) from two years ago. If so, please choose one account and stick to that one, to avoid suspicion of "sockpuppetry". JohnCD ( talk) 22:17, 6 March 2014 (UTC)