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Dude, AWESOME!!! Now wikipedia has 2 articles on New Zealand animals at FA level - Kakapo was the only one for so long; this is huge! :D oh, and I got a clean bill of health today too; no bowel cancer - yay!! Best day EVER. What next for our pioneering team of wikipedians with inclinations towards the biota of Aotearoa? Real life is getting busy for me too.. I'm going to have a bit of a wikibreak. But now that we have made great progress already, would you be keen for my earlier mooted idea of a team collab. to push Kiwi to FA before the year is out? Paz! Kotare ( talk) 07:07, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I've got some questions about this subject if you have time. I'm trying to source this particular passage:
However the Faatau Aroha was finally broken when fighting broke out at a gathering and the two leading ariki of the alliance were killed resulting to open warfare and an end to large-scale interisland voyaging. It is said that the gathered canoes fled the area leaving the lagoon via the pass at Avarua (now Avapiti) rather than the sacred pass at Avamoa because of this a curse fell upon the pass at Avamoa that was not lifted until 1995.
This paragraph relates to another article I'm working on, Mau Piailug. A while back, an editor added some unsourced info and I'm trying to find a source for it. It reads:
The canoe not only landed successfully at Rarotonga, but the voyage resulted in the lifting of a six-centuries-old taboo on voyaging from Raʻiātea.[citation needed] Hōkūle‘a had sailed from Hawaiʻi with sisterships Hawai‘iloa and Makali‘i; these canoes rendezvoused there with other voyaging canoes from across Oceania.[citation needed]
In case it isn't clear, Mau Piailug was a navigator who was in the canoe that led to the curse being lifted in 1995. I'll be looking for references for this material later this week, but if you have any suggestions, please let me know! Viriditas ( talk) 08:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I see you have commented here. If you like, I can step back, and allow you to finish up the rest of the GA Review? -- Cirt ( talk) 20:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it was missing two commas. This is how it should read:
For Native Hawaiians and Polynesian peoples, the success of the Micronesian-Polynesian cultural exchange, symbolized by Hōkūle‘a, contributed to the emergence of the second Hawaiian cultural renaissance and revived interest in Polynesian navigation and canoe building in Hawaii, New Zealand.
This is described as a rule for nonessential components, [2] and enhances the readability of a very long sentence. Try reading it aloud. Viriditas ( talk) 02:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Kia ora Kahuroa - I've just written a small article which I'd like you to check over if you don't mind, see what you think and whether I've made any ghastly mistakes with it... Te Uenuku. Grutness... wha? 04:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Very nice! Any reason why we aren't using them in Mau Piailug? Viriditas ( talk) 23:47, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa, here are two maps, centred on French polynesia (which should hopefully be close enough to Tahiti):
gringer ( talk) 08:52, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa, I'm having a hard time with your change on the aloha page that "mahalo has similar meaning." I'm OK with similar roots but meaning??? I don't see it. Can we go back to roots? Mahalo. Makana Chai ( talk) 20:27, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
I see you reverted my edits on the Great Barrier page. Why? I didn't really change anything too much, did I? Except for trying to improve the description of a "trap-door" in the dam, through which logs would be "sucked". Many years in engineering and science have taught me that this is not the way things really happen! The logs are not sucked out, they are pushed out by the water and the other logs behind them. And I don't think the word trap-door is a good one either, I doubt very much if that's what the loggers called them. 193.60.63.224 ( talk) 14:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Just spotted the new text, addressing my issues - thanks. However there is now another one ... this statement: "kauri is the only native New Zealand timber that floats". Now that is just plainly untrue. I worked in a timber yard in Auckland for a couple of years and believe me I know that kauri is not especially light compared to other common native timbers such as rimu and totara. So I googled it and found a reference on this subject, that you may have found too, but I don't think there is strong enough evidence to support repeating it here. I know that rimu floats in water, in fact most wood does! Just found a webpage giving densities of NZ timbers: http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/grantglazer/Kayak/MaterialsWood.htm - none are heavier than 1000kg/m3 which is the density of water. The only possible explanation is that kauri might (unbeknown to me) be famous or unique as a timber which floats when unseasoned, i.e. freshly felled with the sap still in it. But we shouldn't supply the misinformation that all other NZ timber trees have very dense wood that does not float. 94.3.14.239 ( talk) 23:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Dude those edits on my page weren't me, some random hacked my account and started writing te reo - they tried to change my password too. I'm still on my wikibreak..It's fucked up (!). Hope all is going well and I'll talk to you next year, Kotare ( talk) 05:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
We meet again! Can you not think of a better way of saying northern North Island? It just sounds slightly silly and is likely to be misunderstood (as I did). If it is intended to mean the northern part of the North Island, I think we should say that, or something similar. 193.60.63.224 ( talk) 09:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - I think this is the correct way of contacting you! Thanks very much for your comments and additions to the Sirocco page I put up - much appreciated. And thanks too for the pic - you're right, the Dept of Conservation does have better pics (though that's a cute one!) - I actually work for them so can access them pretty well! I was going to spend today working out how to put a picture up - if I can't do it I'll come back and ask for help! Again many thanks, Chris Pitt ( talk) 19:50, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. I have responded at Template talk:Infobox islands. I think we can reach a suitable solution here. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:28, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, for Malayo-Polynesian_languages#Expanded_tree, the tree is not supposed to be based off Ethnologue, but rather the 2008 analysis of the Austronesian Basic Vocabulary Database, which does not always agree with Ethnologue. I've restored the old classification, but have put your edits into a new section. Thanks a lot! — Stevey7788 ( talk) 21:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I see your recent change of image for the map of Melanesia in the article Geography of New Caledonia. I am curious as to the reason. The map you chose is a little more elegant but it is not nearly as detailed. I prefer to keep the original detail. Can you let me know your reasoning here (which I will watch) or on the talk page? Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 22:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm. No - I didn't know about that, and it seems counterproductive. I've left a note at WP:WSS about it. Grutness... wha? 22:24, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
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Here is a Lei garland for your awesome work with Samoan language and Oceania articles. Mahalo! teinesaVaii (talk) 07:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC) |
Hi there. Thanks for the notice, although I don't think I can suggest anything beyond what has already been suggested as I'm not a professional linguist! -- Der yck C. 18:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kahuroa,
I sometimes think that it would be useful to have a Māori taskforce within WPNZ, much like politics and music. Have you ever thought about that yourself? If you are keen to get something going, I'm willing to help you set it up. The reason I come to you with that is that you seem to be a (the?) sounding board for issues Māori, and I've just proposed to move a Māori article ( Māori seats), and it would obviously be good to have a taskforce that would take an active interest in those things. Schwede 66 00:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I guess we are both back from our holidays. Let me know if you would like to progress this. Schwede 66 04:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind invitation to join, which I'll accept despite my lack of knowledge about things Māori. I'll try to be more help than hindrance anyway. -- Avenue ( talk) 11:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey Kahuroa, I haven't been editing Wikipedia much in 2010, but would like to get back into it, and would be keen to help out wherever possible with the Māori taskforce. Message me on my talk page, or direct email me if there are any tasks that you would specifically like tackled. Kindest Lanma726 ( talk) 03:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I've just noticed that you up a WikiProject NZ Māori task force join request on my user page. I would have noticed it faster on my user talk page (because I get notifications). As it is I only noticed it now I'm involed in the project. Stuartyeates ( talk) 09:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Just thought I would drop a quick thank you for finding the lost hyphens in the Richie McCaw article. AIRcorn (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Thx for keeping me posted.
Greets Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThomasPa ( talk • contribs) 10:01, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
See Template talk:Location map#Inset Maps. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:38, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I noted your reversion of my addition to Towai. I didn't suggest it was named after the incident, but named after the spring. I suppose it is OR but I was in the pub there last week talking to a couple of the old timers and one of them mentioned it. Seemed reasonable so I checked out the spring and found the mention in Te Ao Hau. Not a big deal tho. Incidentlly, there are several towai growing near where I live, but the name of our town isn't Towai ):. Moriori ( talk) 01:31, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi again. This time I have been working on the NZ article and feel it might be getting close to a promotion. I notice you have been fixing up some of my mistakes already and would like to encourage you to continue. Cheers AIRcorn (talk) 23:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
You don't happen to remember the source of the File:Treatyofwaitangi.jpg image. I am sure it is in the public domain, but Avenue thinks it needs better sourcing. I found similar looking copies from Te Ara and the archives if that helps. AIRcorn (talk) 09:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
PS - If it's any help in sourcing it, Te Ara has a similar image and there is a higher quality version here. Archives New Zealand has very high quality versions (See the links lower down on the page) - Kahuroa ( talk) 09:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I have another image question for you. Was this photo taken from a place that is open to the public? If so, I think the photo won't infringe the carver's copyright due to freedom of panorama. I hope we can keep using the image; it makes a wonderful illustration. By the way, do you know who the carver might be? -- Avenue ( talk) 14:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
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Archive 5 | ← | Archive 7 | Archive 8 | Archive 9 | Archive 10 |
Dude, AWESOME!!! Now wikipedia has 2 articles on New Zealand animals at FA level - Kakapo was the only one for so long; this is huge! :D oh, and I got a clean bill of health today too; no bowel cancer - yay!! Best day EVER. What next for our pioneering team of wikipedians with inclinations towards the biota of Aotearoa? Real life is getting busy for me too.. I'm going to have a bit of a wikibreak. But now that we have made great progress already, would you be keen for my earlier mooted idea of a team collab. to push Kiwi to FA before the year is out? Paz! Kotare ( talk) 07:07, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi. I've got some questions about this subject if you have time. I'm trying to source this particular passage:
However the Faatau Aroha was finally broken when fighting broke out at a gathering and the two leading ariki of the alliance were killed resulting to open warfare and an end to large-scale interisland voyaging. It is said that the gathered canoes fled the area leaving the lagoon via the pass at Avarua (now Avapiti) rather than the sacred pass at Avamoa because of this a curse fell upon the pass at Avamoa that was not lifted until 1995.
This paragraph relates to another article I'm working on, Mau Piailug. A while back, an editor added some unsourced info and I'm trying to find a source for it. It reads:
The canoe not only landed successfully at Rarotonga, but the voyage resulted in the lifting of a six-centuries-old taboo on voyaging from Raʻiātea.[citation needed] Hōkūle‘a had sailed from Hawaiʻi with sisterships Hawai‘iloa and Makali‘i; these canoes rendezvoused there with other voyaging canoes from across Oceania.[citation needed]
In case it isn't clear, Mau Piailug was a navigator who was in the canoe that led to the curse being lifted in 1995. I'll be looking for references for this material later this week, but if you have any suggestions, please let me know! Viriditas ( talk) 08:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
I see you have commented here. If you like, I can step back, and allow you to finish up the rest of the GA Review? -- Cirt ( talk) 20:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, it was missing two commas. This is how it should read:
For Native Hawaiians and Polynesian peoples, the success of the Micronesian-Polynesian cultural exchange, symbolized by Hōkūle‘a, contributed to the emergence of the second Hawaiian cultural renaissance and revived interest in Polynesian navigation and canoe building in Hawaii, New Zealand.
This is described as a rule for nonessential components, [2] and enhances the readability of a very long sentence. Try reading it aloud. Viriditas ( talk) 02:55, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Kia ora Kahuroa - I've just written a small article which I'd like you to check over if you don't mind, see what you think and whether I've made any ghastly mistakes with it... Te Uenuku. Grutness... wha? 04:55, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
Very nice! Any reason why we aren't using them in Mau Piailug? Viriditas ( talk) 23:47, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa, here are two maps, centred on French polynesia (which should hopefully be close enough to Tahiti):
gringer ( talk) 08:52, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa, I'm having a hard time with your change on the aloha page that "mahalo has similar meaning." I'm OK with similar roots but meaning??? I don't see it. Can we go back to roots? Mahalo. Makana Chai ( talk) 20:27, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
I see you reverted my edits on the Great Barrier page. Why? I didn't really change anything too much, did I? Except for trying to improve the description of a "trap-door" in the dam, through which logs would be "sucked". Many years in engineering and science have taught me that this is not the way things really happen! The logs are not sucked out, they are pushed out by the water and the other logs behind them. And I don't think the word trap-door is a good one either, I doubt very much if that's what the loggers called them. 193.60.63.224 ( talk) 14:20, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Just spotted the new text, addressing my issues - thanks. However there is now another one ... this statement: "kauri is the only native New Zealand timber that floats". Now that is just plainly untrue. I worked in a timber yard in Auckland for a couple of years and believe me I know that kauri is not especially light compared to other common native timbers such as rimu and totara. So I googled it and found a reference on this subject, that you may have found too, but I don't think there is strong enough evidence to support repeating it here. I know that rimu floats in water, in fact most wood does! Just found a webpage giving densities of NZ timbers: http://home.clear.net.nz/pages/grantglazer/Kayak/MaterialsWood.htm - none are heavier than 1000kg/m3 which is the density of water. The only possible explanation is that kauri might (unbeknown to me) be famous or unique as a timber which floats when unseasoned, i.e. freshly felled with the sap still in it. But we shouldn't supply the misinformation that all other NZ timber trees have very dense wood that does not float. 94.3.14.239 ( talk) 23:15, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
Dude those edits on my page weren't me, some random hacked my account and started writing te reo - they tried to change my password too. I'm still on my wikibreak..It's fucked up (!). Hope all is going well and I'll talk to you next year, Kotare ( talk) 05:24, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
We meet again! Can you not think of a better way of saying northern North Island? It just sounds slightly silly and is likely to be misunderstood (as I did). If it is intended to mean the northern part of the North Island, I think we should say that, or something similar. 193.60.63.224 ( talk) 09:15, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi Kahuroa - I think this is the correct way of contacting you! Thanks very much for your comments and additions to the Sirocco page I put up - much appreciated. And thanks too for the pic - you're right, the Dept of Conservation does have better pics (though that's a cute one!) - I actually work for them so can access them pretty well! I was going to spend today working out how to put a picture up - if I can't do it I'll come back and ask for help! Again many thanks, Chris Pitt ( talk) 19:50, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your feedback. I have responded at Template talk:Infobox islands. I think we can reach a suitable solution here. Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:28, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
Hi, for Malayo-Polynesian_languages#Expanded_tree, the tree is not supposed to be based off Ethnologue, but rather the 2008 analysis of the Austronesian Basic Vocabulary Database, which does not always agree with Ethnologue. I've restored the old classification, but have put your edits into a new section. Thanks a lot! — Stevey7788 ( talk) 21:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi, I see your recent change of image for the map of Melanesia in the article Geography of New Caledonia. I am curious as to the reason. The map you chose is a little more elegant but it is not nearly as detailed. I prefer to keep the original detail. Can you let me know your reasoning here (which I will watch) or on the talk page? Thanks. μηδείς ( talk) 22:49, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm. No - I didn't know about that, and it seems counterproductive. I've left a note at WP:WSS about it. Grutness... wha? 22:24, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
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The Wiki Lei Barnstar | |
Here is a Lei garland for your awesome work with Samoan language and Oceania articles. Mahalo! teinesaVaii (talk) 07:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC) |
Hi there. Thanks for the notice, although I don't think I can suggest anything beyond what has already been suggested as I'm not a professional linguist! -- Der yck C. 18:11, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello Kahuroa,
I sometimes think that it would be useful to have a Māori taskforce within WPNZ, much like politics and music. Have you ever thought about that yourself? If you are keen to get something going, I'm willing to help you set it up. The reason I come to you with that is that you seem to be a (the?) sounding board for issues Māori, and I've just proposed to move a Māori article ( Māori seats), and it would obviously be good to have a taskforce that would take an active interest in those things. Schwede 66 00:22, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
I guess we are both back from our holidays. Let me know if you would like to progress this. Schwede 66 04:02, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your kind invitation to join, which I'll accept despite my lack of knowledge about things Māori. I'll try to be more help than hindrance anyway. -- Avenue ( talk) 11:12, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
Hey Kahuroa, I haven't been editing Wikipedia much in 2010, but would like to get back into it, and would be keen to help out wherever possible with the Māori taskforce. Message me on my talk page, or direct email me if there are any tasks that you would specifically like tackled. Kindest Lanma726 ( talk) 03:58, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
I've just noticed that you up a WikiProject NZ Māori task force join request on my user page. I would have noticed it faster on my user talk page (because I get notifications). As it is I only noticed it now I'm involed in the project. Stuartyeates ( talk) 09:03, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
Just thought I would drop a quick thank you for finding the lost hyphens in the Richie McCaw article. AIRcorn (talk) 06:51, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
Thx for keeping me posted.
Greets Thomas — Preceding unsigned comment added by ThomasPa ( talk • contribs) 10:01, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
See Template talk:Location map#Inset Maps. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 05:38, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
I noted your reversion of my addition to Towai. I didn't suggest it was named after the incident, but named after the spring. I suppose it is OR but I was in the pub there last week talking to a couple of the old timers and one of them mentioned it. Seemed reasonable so I checked out the spring and found the mention in Te Ao Hau. Not a big deal tho. Incidentlly, there are several towai growing near where I live, but the name of our town isn't Towai ):. Moriori ( talk) 01:31, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
Hi again. This time I have been working on the NZ article and feel it might be getting close to a promotion. I notice you have been fixing up some of my mistakes already and would like to encourage you to continue. Cheers AIRcorn (talk) 23:32, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
You don't happen to remember the source of the File:Treatyofwaitangi.jpg image. I am sure it is in the public domain, but Avenue thinks it needs better sourcing. I found similar looking copies from Te Ara and the archives if that helps. AIRcorn (talk) 09:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
PS - If it's any help in sourcing it, Te Ara has a similar image and there is a higher quality version here. Archives New Zealand has very high quality versions (See the links lower down on the page) - Kahuroa ( talk) 09:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
Hi, I have another image question for you. Was this photo taken from a place that is open to the public? If so, I think the photo won't infringe the carver's copyright due to freedom of panorama. I hope we can keep using the image; it makes a wonderful illustration. By the way, do you know who the carver might be? -- Avenue ( talk) 14:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)