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If your facts are correct and you have the sources to back them up (please review WP:RS), please edit the appropriate content in the Bozeman article and support with the proper citations WP:CITE. Your contributions are welcome and I will be happy to help you become a regular editor on WP if you desire that. Please ask me any questions you might have on my talk page. Sincerely. -- Mike Cline ( talk) 22:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
JW - I was thinking about this. There is a lot to learn about the ways of WP as a new editor. If you are serious about becoming a regular contributor and are as passionate about Montana Cattle history as your few posts indicate, then I have a challenge for you. Currently there is no article entitled Montana Cattle Industry. You should create one. An article that covered the history of the industry from its beginnings in the 1850s to the present would be very encyclopedia and further the aims of the Montana Project. It would be a great way for you to learn about all the elements of a WP article, how to put them together and create content consistent with our norms. If that is something you would like to work on, I will help you begin creating a draft article in your user space so you can experiment a bit before taking the article into the main space. It is how a lot of us build new articles anyway. Let me know if you are interested. Sincerely-- Mike Cline ( talk) 12:24, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Welcome back. Contributing to WP is actually very easy and rewarding. One does not need to become an expert in anyway to start contributing. Right up front, I'll tell you two things you must understand to survive this collaborative encyclopedia.
Now. Becoming the student.
I will be here to help as you progress. Welcome aboard.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 13:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
FYI John, I am as bad and lazy at this than most, but it is considered good form to include discrete edit summaries for all edits. Always be civil in your edit summaries as they are the first thing people see when reviewing your edits. Good start.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 07:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I am trying due diligence here as promised. I must say that (titles of) most of the topics I saw proposed for deletion just left me cold and wondering why anyone would bother with them. However the world is a diverse place... So I have been trying to seek out topics of some interest to me (is that a good idea?). Of the first I looked at, Weight loss effects of water I was having a lot of trouble paying attention to the content (I found it boring and unfocused). Not sure that is sufficient reason for deletion but has to be in there somewhere because what use are articles that nobody will read? Also, supposing that the topic does deserve inclusion, it is a disservice to all to make it boring. Indeed that of itself is a form of obscuration - the opposite of our intent here I would think. Looking at the discussion, the original author seemed at great pains to defend him (I looked up his page) self. Trying to get detractors to feel sorry for him and relent in their critiques it appeared to me. This is quite clearly discouraged in WP: ??. So I need to bone up on policies concerning boring and obscuring before jumping into the fray. Also I wish I could past that to be able to dissect the problem in greater detail, so perhaps as to be of more help rather than just a DELETE vote. There are a lot of criteria out there! I fear it will be a while before I can be truly useful in these debates. But as you say, I need to be involved even if imperfectly. Forward into the breach!!! Jwilsonjwilson ( talk) 06:06, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello Jwilsonjwilson! Thank you for your feedback on the Montana State Prison page; it was a very fun project that I haven't even peeked at for quite some time. I grew up in Deer Lodge and worked as a housekeeper/groundsman/tour guide for the Prison Museum and Towe Ford Museum (before it became the Montana Auto Association Museum) for a summer after my Senior year at PCHS. The building and its history have always interested me, and I was glad to be able to share the interesting history of the place here on Wikipedia. Thanks again!
tanankyo ( talk) 18:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
John, you're doing good stuff, keep at it. I've moved any future discussion of the Montana Cattle article to its talk page to removed the clutter from this page.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
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Thanks for your courteous cooperation and willingness to listen and think things through.
Dougweller (
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05:29, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Just removed your last edit there. Please, our talk pages aren't forums, they are there purely to discuss improvements to the article. Dougweller ( talk) 06:43, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
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Welcome...
Hello, Jwilsonjwilson, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like this place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:
Please
sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your username and the date. If you need help, check out
Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}}
on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome!
Mike Cline (
talk)
22:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
If your facts are correct and you have the sources to back them up (please review WP:RS), please edit the appropriate content in the Bozeman article and support with the proper citations WP:CITE. Your contributions are welcome and I will be happy to help you become a regular editor on WP if you desire that. Please ask me any questions you might have on my talk page. Sincerely. -- Mike Cline ( talk) 22:55, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
JW - I was thinking about this. There is a lot to learn about the ways of WP as a new editor. If you are serious about becoming a regular contributor and are as passionate about Montana Cattle history as your few posts indicate, then I have a challenge for you. Currently there is no article entitled Montana Cattle Industry. You should create one. An article that covered the history of the industry from its beginnings in the 1850s to the present would be very encyclopedia and further the aims of the Montana Project. It would be a great way for you to learn about all the elements of a WP article, how to put them together and create content consistent with our norms. If that is something you would like to work on, I will help you begin creating a draft article in your user space so you can experiment a bit before taking the article into the main space. It is how a lot of us build new articles anyway. Let me know if you are interested. Sincerely-- Mike Cline ( talk) 12:24, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
Welcome back. Contributing to WP is actually very easy and rewarding. One does not need to become an expert in anyway to start contributing. Right up front, I'll tell you two things you must understand to survive this collaborative encyclopedia.
Now. Becoming the student.
I will be here to help as you progress. Welcome aboard.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 13:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
FYI John, I am as bad and lazy at this than most, but it is considered good form to include discrete edit summaries for all edits. Always be civil in your edit summaries as they are the first thing people see when reviewing your edits. Good start.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 07:40, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
I am trying due diligence here as promised. I must say that (titles of) most of the topics I saw proposed for deletion just left me cold and wondering why anyone would bother with them. However the world is a diverse place... So I have been trying to seek out topics of some interest to me (is that a good idea?). Of the first I looked at, Weight loss effects of water I was having a lot of trouble paying attention to the content (I found it boring and unfocused). Not sure that is sufficient reason for deletion but has to be in there somewhere because what use are articles that nobody will read? Also, supposing that the topic does deserve inclusion, it is a disservice to all to make it boring. Indeed that of itself is a form of obscuration - the opposite of our intent here I would think. Looking at the discussion, the original author seemed at great pains to defend him (I looked up his page) self. Trying to get detractors to feel sorry for him and relent in their critiques it appeared to me. This is quite clearly discouraged in WP: ??. So I need to bone up on policies concerning boring and obscuring before jumping into the fray. Also I wish I could past that to be able to dissect the problem in greater detail, so perhaps as to be of more help rather than just a DELETE vote. There are a lot of criteria out there! I fear it will be a while before I can be truly useful in these debates. But as you say, I need to be involved even if imperfectly. Forward into the breach!!! Jwilsonjwilson ( talk) 06:06, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello Jwilsonjwilson! Thank you for your feedback on the Montana State Prison page; it was a very fun project that I haven't even peeked at for quite some time. I grew up in Deer Lodge and worked as a housekeeper/groundsman/tour guide for the Prison Museum and Towe Ford Museum (before it became the Montana Auto Association Museum) for a summer after my Senior year at PCHS. The building and its history have always interested me, and I was glad to be able to share the interesting history of the place here on Wikipedia. Thanks again!
tanankyo ( talk) 18:40, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
John, you're doing good stuff, keep at it. I've moved any future discussion of the Montana Cattle article to its talk page to removed the clutter from this page.-- Mike Cline ( talk) 17:01, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
Hello. In case you didn't know, when you add content to talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion, you must sign your posts by typing four tildes ( ~~~~ ) at the end of your comment. You may also click on the signature button located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you. -- SineBot ( talk) 18:02, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for your courteous cooperation and willingness to listen and think things through.
Dougweller (
talk)
05:29, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
Just removed your last edit there. Please, our talk pages aren't forums, they are there purely to discuss improvements to the article. Dougweller ( talk) 06:43, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
Hello! Jwilsonjwilson,
I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the
Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the
Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there!
DGG (
talk )
02:23, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
|
Thanks for uploading File:John Francis Grant circa 1860's - courtesy of Montana Historical Society - B and W photo , 942-461.jpg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).
Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. -- B-bot ( talk) 02:37, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. Wikipedia appreciates your help. We noticed though that when you edited Deer Lodge, Montana, you added links pointing to the disambiguation pages Fort Benton and Fort Union. Such links are almost always unintended, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of "Did you mean..." article titles. Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.
It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot ( talk) 10:30, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
You are invited to join the discussion at WP:MCQ#File:John Francis Grant circa 1860's - courtesy of Montana Historical Society - B and W photo , 942-461.jpg. -- Marchjuly ( talk) 21:34, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm HasteurBot. I just wanted to let you know that Draft:James Bruce Kremer, a page you created, has not been edited in 5 months. The Articles for Creation space is not an indefinite storage location for content that is not appropriate for articlespace.
If your submission is not edited soon, it could be nominated for deletion. If you would like to attempt to save it, you will need to improve it.
You may request Userfication of the content if it meets requirements.
If the deletion has already occured, instructions on how you may be able to retrieve it are available at WP:REFUND/G13.
Thank you for your attention. HasteurBot ( talk) 01:30, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Hello, Jwilsonjwilson. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, " James Bruce Kremer".
In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia
mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the {{db-afc}}
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If your submission has already been deleted by the time you get there, and you wish to retrieve it, you can request its undeletion by following the instructions at this link. An administrator will, in most cases, restore the submission so you can continue to work on it.
Thanks for your submission to Wikipedia, and happy editing. Sam Sailor 05:09, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Deer Lodge, Montana, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Sacred Heart Medical Center. Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.)
It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot ( talk) 05:59, 17 January 2022 (UTC)
I have declined your submission at WP:3O because I could find no evidence that a thorough discussion has occurred regarding your dispute, a prerequisite for requesting a third opinion. I would also note that your dispute was worded non-neutrally and was not formatted properly, though these are secondary concerns. If or when a discussion has occurred and there are only two involved editors, you are welcome to relist the dispute, but please read WP:3O carefully before doing so. You are also welcome to pursue other forms of dispute resolution. Cheers. DonIago ( talk) 14:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC)