Dear, JC could you try to find some historical photographs relating to Colombian history for attach to the articles. - Thank you, Your friend.
Hola JC, we are having an interesting back and forth regarding Dumar Aljure. I would write to you privately but I can't figure out your email address. Mine is paulwolf@icdc.com I have more documents about "communist infiltration of the guerrillas" in the late 50s - early 60s. However the story is far from clear. I cannot explain why Aljure is not a part of FARC's history, by any Colombian historians, of any political persuasion. Likewise, Plan Lazo has been confused with Plan LASO which was something related to Cuba, not Colombia. Of course Lazo means "lasso" in Spanish and that was the reason for the name of that program. I have many documents about this online, for example: http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/colombia/lazoreview.htm
A lot of things in Colombian history need to be cleaned up. Bogota had long had the largest CIA station in the world (now Baghdad has the largest, they say) and there has been a lot of CIA influence in Colombia for a long time. This is one reason Colombia is such a disaster area. Don't get me wrong though, I love the country and the people and someday I want to return there to work in Colombia's archives.
I noticed you modified the page Consejo Nacional Electoral and may be working on an article related to Colombia. Please check out this move request first. Thanks Spaceriqui 21:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Colombian_Armed_Conflict (Hypothetical Colombia Peace Plan)
I came up with a rushed hypthetical peace plan.
Unfortunatly I found out that my paper was due on March 7th, so I am forced to rush things and really put my neck out and say things that are probably very ignorant and naive. Please be brutally honest about my suggestions. The four of us have to come up with a viable peace process soon.
I archived the other comments, not standard practice, but since I am inviting my classmates to this site, and they have never used Wikipedia before, this will make their transaction into Wikipedia less difficult to learn.
No harm no foul right?
I figure if you don't care no one else will.
After march 7th, or sooner, I could always just cut and paste the info in the archive back onto the talk page.
thanks for all of your help. We are planning to meet with some Colombian ex-pats here and get their ideas about a viable peace process too. Stating that no peace process is viable right now is not an option, even if it may be the most realistic assessment right now. Travb 02:51, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Colombian_Armed_Conflict I got a new peace plan. Sad thing is, it appears like the biggest stumbling block is my own government. Bush would never go for UN control of a new Plan Colombia. Travb 05:40, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Who are all these people addressing you as "Dear friend"? LOL...the same person? Kind of interesting. You seem like the expert on Colombia. You should write a book, your english is good enough. If a union member can write "the profits of Extermination" you could write a much better, more balanced book. Travb 05:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
To say thanks for your continued help, I made this template to combine all of the work of yourself and your compatriots. When gringos like me come searching for information about the Colombia crisis, we can easily find several pages on the crisis. Please savagely modify this template as you see fit. I am going to add it to the armed conflict site right now. Please add or take away certain pages. After you are done, I will gladly add it to all of the other sites listed in the template:
Signed: Travb 06:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey man, Thank you so much. I had class tonight, and I blew away my classmates about the depth of my knowledge on the subject. They were so impressed that I had been talking to you and I already had a second draft of a peace plan. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Travb 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
You gave me a new depth of understanding in the formation of Plan Colombia. I appreciate your new input. I assume you translated the book from Spanish? Thanks again. Travb 06:31, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Added new link with photos, graphs, statistics etc:
It says that I have exceeded my data limit for the day... :(
I posted a question on Talk:Palace_of_Justice_siege, if you get some time. Travb 00:19, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Nice edits on plan colombia, thanks again. Travb 05:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Justice_siege#The_disappeared
http://bailey83221.livejournal.com/65293.html
Interesting, where you aware of this story?
Let me know what you think... Travb 10:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Hola, Juancarlos2004:
Desde hace un tiempo he venido cabilando con la idea de fundar un capítulo Colombiano de la Wikimedia Foundation, y para esto necesito de los comentarios y de la ayuda de los posibles interesados.
La idea del capítulo es formar una organización sin ánimo de lucro dentro de la legislación colombiana. Muy probablemente una Fundación sea el tipo de entidad más acorde a los objetivos planteados.
La invitación es para inscribir su nombre en la página de la propuesta sin ningún compromiso. También recibo comenentarios allá o en mi página de discusión sobre cualquier inquietud que tenga lugar.
En la página de la propuesta también se podrá encontrar un borrador de los posibles estatutos de la Fundación, los objetivos planteados, etc. y está abierta a cualquier tipo de contribuciones e inquietudes. Las ideas incluyen desde la canalización de fondos para la Wikimedia Foundation (los found raisings) hasta varios proyectos de promoción del conocimiento libre en Colombia (tanto por medio de los proyectos de Wikimedia, como por otros proyectos basados o no en tecnologías Wiki). Sin duda un objetivo interesante será la promoción de las lenguas indígenas colombianas con el objetivo adicional de empoderar a las culturas que las hablan de herramientas informáticas que no sean percibidas como alienantes.
Si conoce de algún otro colombiano que pueda estar interesado, no sólo wikipedistas o colaboradores de Wikimedia, agradezco la difución de este mensaje.
Gracias por la atención.
—
Carlos Th
(talk)
18:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
nice edits on Palace of Justice siege I just love the power of colaberation on wikipedia. Travb 03:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
-- Don Quijote's Sancho 00:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I see you are online, or were recently online. Can you See my question?: Talk:La Violencia. Travb 05:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding those links to this article - I was looking for them and couldn't find them! AndrewRT 22:42, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for forcing you to learn the new "ref" footnote system--I like it better but it took a little bit of time for me to learn. Travb 00:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I would like to ask a favor, sir.
I would like your comments, someone put my article up for deletion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Organizations_and_people_who_predicted_the_collapse_of_the_USSR On every page I post this on, many people start passionate conversations about this. Travb 05:02, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey Juan, interested in reading my law school paper? I am about 70% done. It is 10 pages single spaced, 16 pages with footnotes. (In law school, every sentence needs to be footnoted). It is on Colombia, entitled "America's Other War: Terrorizing Colombia" after the book of the same name. I think I am going to write over the 6000 word limit--I need to to be able to include everything. I will just email you the text. Travb 02:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Signed: Travb 02:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for all of your help. I was wondering what you thought we should do with the terrible article: U.S.-Colombia relations. I don't think that any article should be deleted, no matter how bad. As you probably noticed I started to rewrite the article but gave up. Actually, I think I am going to try something radical Wikipedia:Be bold, which may piss off the author. Travb 19:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I am going to take myself off of several Colombia page watchlists for now, adding them to my user page. This is the first time I have ever done this to such controversial pages which I care so much about.
But I really trust your judgement, more than any other wikipedian on wikipidia. I will continue to monitor your changes to U.S.-Colombia relations because I am interested where you will take this article, and I would like to continue to contribute to this article as it develops.
As soon as it is NPOV enough with your skillful edits, I will post links to it on other Colombia related pages, but I have not done this yet, because I do not want an US apologist to put it up for deletion, because it is so admittedly argumentative in its current form.
I will continue to contribute to Colombia pages, but I trust that you will be a wonderful gate keeper, upkeeping the high quality of the Colombia wikipages for both of us.
As I become an attorney, I hope to use my power and influence to help the Colombian people. I think with my current social position in life contributing to Wikipedia is the absoute best thing I could have done for the Colombian people, raising American awareness of the US's detrimental role in Colombia. Any person in the world who types in "Plan Colombia" the 6th link will be the link that we worked on together, which I contributed a lot too. I mailed away several copies of Plan Colombia: Cashing-In on the Drug War Failure to my brother to give to local advocacy groups and to mail to his leaders. I also mailed one to my Congressional and Senate reps. (no response at all).
Last year, I remember visiting Austin, the state capital of Texas, and seeing five lone American protesters, standing in the shadow of the capital building holding banners protesting Plan Colombia. Most Americans ignored such signs, but it stuck in my mind. Why would these people be protesting? Now I understand why. I believe in the idea of "national guilt", unlike many of my American brotheren. (I define national guilt differently than what I have read on the net: national guilt is the guilt a person feels for the negative actions/history of your native country)
How do you know english so well--I have wondered that often? Mixed marriage? Colombia and native english speaker? Are you Colombian?
Laters.
Signed: Travb ( talk) 06:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
A user unbooted me. So I am back, at least temporarily. Did you get the books yet? Travb ( talk) 17:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Dear, JC could you try to find some historical photographs relating to Colombian history for attach to the articles. - Thank you, Your friend.
Hola JC, we are having an interesting back and forth regarding Dumar Aljure. I would write to you privately but I can't figure out your email address. Mine is paulwolf@icdc.com I have more documents about "communist infiltration of the guerrillas" in the late 50s - early 60s. However the story is far from clear. I cannot explain why Aljure is not a part of FARC's history, by any Colombian historians, of any political persuasion. Likewise, Plan Lazo has been confused with Plan LASO which was something related to Cuba, not Colombia. Of course Lazo means "lasso" in Spanish and that was the reason for the name of that program. I have many documents about this online, for example: http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/colombia/lazoreview.htm
A lot of things in Colombian history need to be cleaned up. Bogota had long had the largest CIA station in the world (now Baghdad has the largest, they say) and there has been a lot of CIA influence in Colombia for a long time. This is one reason Colombia is such a disaster area. Don't get me wrong though, I love the country and the people and someday I want to return there to work in Colombia's archives.
I noticed you modified the page Consejo Nacional Electoral and may be working on an article related to Colombia. Please check out this move request first. Thanks Spaceriqui 21:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Colombian_Armed_Conflict (Hypothetical Colombia Peace Plan)
I came up with a rushed hypthetical peace plan.
Unfortunatly I found out that my paper was due on March 7th, so I am forced to rush things and really put my neck out and say things that are probably very ignorant and naive. Please be brutally honest about my suggestions. The four of us have to come up with a viable peace process soon.
I archived the other comments, not standard practice, but since I am inviting my classmates to this site, and they have never used Wikipedia before, this will make their transaction into Wikipedia less difficult to learn.
No harm no foul right?
I figure if you don't care no one else will.
After march 7th, or sooner, I could always just cut and paste the info in the archive back onto the talk page.
thanks for all of your help. We are planning to meet with some Colombian ex-pats here and get their ideas about a viable peace process too. Stating that no peace process is viable right now is not an option, even if it may be the most realistic assessment right now. Travb 02:51, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Talk:Colombian_Armed_Conflict I got a new peace plan. Sad thing is, it appears like the biggest stumbling block is my own government. Bush would never go for UN control of a new Plan Colombia. Travb 05:40, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Who are all these people addressing you as "Dear friend"? LOL...the same person? Kind of interesting. You seem like the expert on Colombia. You should write a book, your english is good enough. If a union member can write "the profits of Extermination" you could write a much better, more balanced book. Travb 05:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
To say thanks for your continued help, I made this template to combine all of the work of yourself and your compatriots. When gringos like me come searching for information about the Colombia crisis, we can easily find several pages on the crisis. Please savagely modify this template as you see fit. I am going to add it to the armed conflict site right now. Please add or take away certain pages. After you are done, I will gladly add it to all of the other sites listed in the template:
Signed: Travb 06:25, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Hey man, Thank you so much. I had class tonight, and I blew away my classmates about the depth of my knowledge on the subject. They were so impressed that I had been talking to you and I already had a second draft of a peace plan. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Travb 03:59, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
You gave me a new depth of understanding in the formation of Plan Colombia. I appreciate your new input. I assume you translated the book from Spanish? Thanks again. Travb 06:31, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
Added new link with photos, graphs, statistics etc:
It says that I have exceeded my data limit for the day... :(
I posted a question on Talk:Palace_of_Justice_siege, if you get some time. Travb 00:19, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Nice edits on plan colombia, thanks again. Travb 05:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palace_of_Justice_siege#The_disappeared
http://bailey83221.livejournal.com/65293.html
Interesting, where you aware of this story?
Let me know what you think... Travb 10:51, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Hola, Juancarlos2004:
Desde hace un tiempo he venido cabilando con la idea de fundar un capítulo Colombiano de la Wikimedia Foundation, y para esto necesito de los comentarios y de la ayuda de los posibles interesados.
La idea del capítulo es formar una organización sin ánimo de lucro dentro de la legislación colombiana. Muy probablemente una Fundación sea el tipo de entidad más acorde a los objetivos planteados.
La invitación es para inscribir su nombre en la página de la propuesta sin ningún compromiso. También recibo comenentarios allá o en mi página de discusión sobre cualquier inquietud que tenga lugar.
En la página de la propuesta también se podrá encontrar un borrador de los posibles estatutos de la Fundación, los objetivos planteados, etc. y está abierta a cualquier tipo de contribuciones e inquietudes. Las ideas incluyen desde la canalización de fondos para la Wikimedia Foundation (los found raisings) hasta varios proyectos de promoción del conocimiento libre en Colombia (tanto por medio de los proyectos de Wikimedia, como por otros proyectos basados o no en tecnologías Wiki). Sin duda un objetivo interesante será la promoción de las lenguas indígenas colombianas con el objetivo adicional de empoderar a las culturas que las hablan de herramientas informáticas que no sean percibidas como alienantes.
Si conoce de algún otro colombiano que pueda estar interesado, no sólo wikipedistas o colaboradores de Wikimedia, agradezco la difución de este mensaje.
Gracias por la atención.
—
Carlos Th
(talk)
18:28, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
nice edits on Palace of Justice siege I just love the power of colaberation on wikipedia. Travb 03:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
-- Don Quijote's Sancho 00:07, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
I see you are online, or were recently online. Can you See my question?: Talk:La Violencia. Travb 05:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for adding those links to this article - I was looking for them and couldn't find them! AndrewRT 22:42, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Sorry for forcing you to learn the new "ref" footnote system--I like it better but it took a little bit of time for me to learn. Travb 00:39, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
I would like to ask a favor, sir.
I would like your comments, someone put my article up for deletion: Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion#Category:Organizations_and_people_who_predicted_the_collapse_of_the_USSR On every page I post this on, many people start passionate conversations about this. Travb 05:02, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Hey Juan, interested in reading my law school paper? I am about 70% done. It is 10 pages single spaced, 16 pages with footnotes. (In law school, every sentence needs to be footnoted). It is on Colombia, entitled "America's Other War: Terrorizing Colombia" after the book of the same name. I think I am going to write over the 6000 word limit--I need to to be able to include everything. I will just email you the text. Travb 02:25, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Signed: Travb 02:27, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for all of your help. I was wondering what you thought we should do with the terrible article: U.S.-Colombia relations. I don't think that any article should be deleted, no matter how bad. As you probably noticed I started to rewrite the article but gave up. Actually, I think I am going to try something radical Wikipedia:Be bold, which may piss off the author. Travb 19:03, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
I am going to take myself off of several Colombia page watchlists for now, adding them to my user page. This is the first time I have ever done this to such controversial pages which I care so much about.
But I really trust your judgement, more than any other wikipedian on wikipidia. I will continue to monitor your changes to U.S.-Colombia relations because I am interested where you will take this article, and I would like to continue to contribute to this article as it develops.
As soon as it is NPOV enough with your skillful edits, I will post links to it on other Colombia related pages, but I have not done this yet, because I do not want an US apologist to put it up for deletion, because it is so admittedly argumentative in its current form.
I will continue to contribute to Colombia pages, but I trust that you will be a wonderful gate keeper, upkeeping the high quality of the Colombia wikipages for both of us.
As I become an attorney, I hope to use my power and influence to help the Colombian people. I think with my current social position in life contributing to Wikipedia is the absoute best thing I could have done for the Colombian people, raising American awareness of the US's detrimental role in Colombia. Any person in the world who types in "Plan Colombia" the 6th link will be the link that we worked on together, which I contributed a lot too. I mailed away several copies of Plan Colombia: Cashing-In on the Drug War Failure to my brother to give to local advocacy groups and to mail to his leaders. I also mailed one to my Congressional and Senate reps. (no response at all).
Last year, I remember visiting Austin, the state capital of Texas, and seeing five lone American protesters, standing in the shadow of the capital building holding banners protesting Plan Colombia. Most Americans ignored such signs, but it stuck in my mind. Why would these people be protesting? Now I understand why. I believe in the idea of "national guilt", unlike many of my American brotheren. (I define national guilt differently than what I have read on the net: national guilt is the guilt a person feels for the negative actions/history of your native country)
How do you know english so well--I have wondered that often? Mixed marriage? Colombia and native english speaker? Are you Colombian?
Laters.
Signed: Travb ( talk) 06:04, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
A user unbooted me. So I am back, at least temporarily. Did you get the books yet? Travb ( talk) 17:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)