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Good edit; thank you. It does preserve what I meant to say. And thank you for backing my 1907 idea; we do have a few months, so we can do this slowly and comprehensively.
If I may do a bait-and-switch, what do you think of this new article? Personally, I'm not a big fan, given that we have this already and that the term "accused" is pretty vague (who does the accusing--a prosecutor, or can press accusations also land someone on the list?), as is, in fact, the term "crimes"; George W. Bush might be guilty of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", but so far, few people have accused him of actual felonies or misdemeanors committed in contravention of federal, state, or local law. And so on. Biruitorul 04:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I did some cleanup there. I removed the link on total victims of Communism because, while it's an important fact and should be mentioned in an article of its own, it's not directly relevant here. One thing the new edits have done is further blur the line between the pre-1948 and post-1989 parties, again raising the merger question. As for the Ziua link, what it does is quote Ioan Mureşan, a disgraced former agriculture minister; the party platform makes no mention of monarchy. I did e-mail the party in hopes of getting a clarification on their position. The Cotidianul link has more specific figures that I inserted. Biruitorul 05:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I made a mistake reading it the first time... accidentally linked two unrelated incidents from the Nikita Kruschev page. My apologies. -- TheSeer ( Talkˑ Contribs) 08:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Take a look my the example on the page,
White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives -- I only hand-created the superscript on the citation-talk page as an illustration of the example. I think I'm doing it the way you're telling me to.... Sorry I wasn't clear: my question is about having a ref link at the end of an inline link -- stylistically that seems odd, but it does what I want, which is to have a page number inline, with a full ref in Refs. But stylistically it seems like I'm footnoting a citation and there should be a better way...????
thanks,
Renice
11:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Go here to see the Ethnic groups sidebar on (not updated) version of page: User:Ling.Nut/NewPageSandbox. -- Ling.Nut 13:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
On WP:ETHNIC, I was randomly clicking on links in the assessment table, and the assessments are outdated.. (see for example Ethnic German and Ethnic Japanese rated as stubs). The table is supplanted by the new ratings system, altho the latter is not really ramped up yet.. and the table takes up a considerable amount of vertical real estate on the project page.
I suggest retiring it. There's a copy of it on User:Ling.Nut/NewPageSandbox that we can refer to while updating assessments.-- Ling.Nut 14:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I've taken a first look at the page, and what I think the immediate disagreement is about, and have commented on the Talk: page. I hope I'm talking about the correct issue, please take a look and let me know. If there are other content or other kinds of issues where you would like me to try to assist, please let me know, and I'd be happy to help. Jayjg (talk) 14:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
The sandbox for the Template:WPEthnic groups Sidebar still has some red links... I don't know if you want to leave them there as a "to do list" or "wish list." I commented out a few things (portal, automation, etc.) because they seemed a bit further down the road...Which (if any) of these do you want to keep as redlinks or even begin developing:
-- Ling.Nut 23:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I think these are all worth keeping, they'd all be worth starting in the near future. - Jmabel | Talk 23:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I have updated the Cults in Our Midst article entry. Take a look and let me know what you think, on the article's talk page. Yours, Smeelgova 23:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC).
Smeelgova: this is an encyclopedia. It's not a soapbox. There is nothing wrong with writing about this topic, but you are basically writing in a partisan manner, and there is something wrong with that.
I suggest that you might take a look at something like Abortion debate to see that very controversial material can be handled in an evenhanded manner. And I'd also suggest a quick read of Wikipedia:Writing for the enemy, which is very short. - Jmabel | Talk 23:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I was simply trying to contain a discussion on one talk page. I hate having to go back and forth to reread the response and follow-up response. Okay, okay, I get your points above. Thanks for the advice. Yours, Smeelgova 00:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC).
We'll move this page, when we both agree it's done: Sandbox here for page to be moved to:
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Cleanup]]
-- Ling.Nut 02:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jmabel,
Yeah, I've always wondered about that "pages needing attention" section too. There was never any text under the highest-level heading, then the section below is about archaeology. I think this and a few other sections can easily (and fruitfully) be removed from the project page... it will make the page crisper, cleaner etc.
I have midterms now, then papers to write. This afternoon I will put up a wikilink to the page on Wikipedia 1.0 that discusses having "Articles about blahbahblah with comments" structure. Beyond that, I may need to stop for a while. I will be checking my talk page for messages.-- Ling.Nut 11:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Testing the "comments" option tonight. Cross your fingers. Please note that Talk:Rukai people is rated class=A as part of the test. It should be returned to class=Stub after the test is completed.-- Ling.Nut 22:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey Joe, thanks for looking into those Chernikhov images, the guy who uploaded them and wrote a really great article with them constructivist architecture doesn't seem to be around anymore. Your reasoning makes sense to me should we add the template you suggested? Also do you have any more photos of the EMP like this Image:Sky Church 1.jpg? And finally, are you going to Portland and could you point me to a page with the info about it? Regards, DVD+ R/W 23:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Joe. I've been asked by
User:MariusM to block
User:William Mauco over a 3RR violation. I personally believe that no such violation took place. The case was reported at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR#User:William_Mauco_reported_by_User:MariusM_.28Result:.29. As another admin, what do you think?
Ronline
✉
09:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I noticed on an article i have edited a bit was voted previosuly for deletion. Since I do question the notablility of this person and since you voted to delete the article in the past maybe you know what should be done with this article. Dwain
-- Ling.Nut 13:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I'm a little concerned that maybe your signature won't work in tables, and will break tables if it's trancluded (e.g. a /Comments page transcluded into the WP1 assessments table). That's because it contains the "|" character which is a delimiter in wiki table syntax. Have you tested your signature in tables? -- kingboyk 16:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok sorry to answer so late. The map was originally created by Anonimu and he based his map exclusively on the Soviet census of 1989 if I am correct. He did not post it on the article, he just suggested it as a possible map, however everyone sort of ignored it. I contacted him and inquired about it. I took the map and changed it in areas where i knew for sure from census data from 2001 that there were mistakes. Besides the census, the sources I used were [1] and [2] as well as this site for the actual map [3]. Dapiks 17:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure I'll be on Wikipedia much longer, Joe. It's been nice knowing you. SchmuckyTheCat 07:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jmabel,
I feel like I've followed through on the cluster of tasks that I began & saw them to their end... all that's left is a few minor mopup details, all mentioned in bullet points in the section above. This time I'm really really really outta here. I look forward to working with you further, starting in December or perhaps Jan. Later!-- Ling.Nut 23:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Because you edit Alberto Fujimori, you may want to check out Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Messhermit, which I just filed. -- Descendall 02:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Joe, I would like your opinions (or edits) on something. I just translated User:DVD R W/Автопортрет from ru: because we didn't have a self-portrait article before and this was just a redirect to portrait with only two lines mentioned there. Could you take a look, edit as you'd like, and tell me if you think it is ready to move into article space? Thanks, DVD+ R/W 20:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Because you have made comments on the Wizard (fantasy) talk page, I thought you might be interested to know of a Request for Comments: Talk:Wizard (fantasy)#Request for comment Goldfritha 02:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Three thoughts:
Hopefully it made sense. -- ReyBrujo 05:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
About a week ago I noticed a contradiction in WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999 protest activity relating to this protester wearing Nikes. One sentence stated this protester was smashing a Niketown and another sentence a Starbucks. In a conversation with another editor, neither of us could find this picture, and the only mentions I found were in op-ed articles and columns, leading me to believe it's an apocryphal story. However, I just noticed your earlier post saying you have seen this photo? Do you remember wear, by any chance? Natalie 18:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
HI Jmabel,
My pet project includes a fair use image, taken from a non-US, quasi-governmental website (national park, actually). This image and the accompanying fair use argument were posted long before I entered the picture... I'm afraid that the "fair use" argument will be stricken down if I try to put the page up for GA or FA. The page it is on bears no copyright notice, but I doubt that argument would carry much weight.
I fear that asking a bureaucratic org. to put GFDL or other licensing verbiage on a particular page will be an uphill struggle. Moreover, English would not be their native language, and that might further hinder communication.
However, there is another possibility. The website in question has a free download page for images, and perhaps I could persuade them to copy the desired image to that page.. Full details are here. I don't know whether this fact provides an exception to the rule about free licensing etc. If you happen to know of anyone who is knowledgeable about these issues, I would be eternally grateful if you would send them my way.
Thanks, -- Ling.Nut 03:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I can't see your email address because I have that option disabled, but I emailed you at the speakeasy.org address that's on the bottom of your webpage. -- Descendall 00:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi again Jmabel. I learned how to create an archive earlier this week when I took care of my talk page and found that it wasn't as difficult as I thought so I took a stab at it on Oscar's discussion page. If you have the time I would like you to check on it with the following thoughts in mind.
I will appreciate your taking time to make sure I did this correctly and any advice you can give will be helpful too. Thanks. MarnetteD | Talk 21:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't think there's any reason why you can't edit the article now. I have to admit, Psychohistorian is not as active in this discussion as I would like. It makes no sense to hold up the article while this drags on. Thanks and happy editting! -- ShinmaWa( talk) 01:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello Jmabel -- Thank you for your recent message on my Talk page. I answered you there, please stop by when you get a chance ... -- Polaris999 18:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
If the substance of this edit is accurate, feel free to re-add with citation. But please be aware that the locution "Jew George Soros" is more or less an ethnic insult. If the insult was accidental, be aware that the more appropriate way to write this is "George Soros, who is a Jew".'. Ok and Thanks! -- bg007
Hello, I'm sorry it's been awhile, but I recently agreed to mediate that case. Please either accept or reject me as a mediator there, and if you accept, please let me know if you would prefer public or private mediation. Also, assuming you are still interested in mediation, please watchlist the page if you haven't already. Thanks! Armedblowfish ( talk| mail) 01:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, you have probably found out already the answers to the two questions you have posted on the Costache Negruzzi discussion page more than two months ago. If that is not the case, you may find my answers there. All the best, Quatrocentu 09:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
JMabel,
I saw a border on a different WikiProject, and thought it made the page look cleaner. I put it on Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups; if you don't think it adds anything then revert.
Cheers-- Ling.Nut 18:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Your recent edit to El Vez appears broken. I'd fix it for you, but I don't understand the <ref> tag from memory, and won't have time to read up on it for another couple of days. Could you take a look at it? adavidw 06:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks | |
I've been following a lot of your edits recently, and I just wanted to thank you for your tremendous work. You're truly one of the best editors on Wikipedia. Descendall 07:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC) |
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Good edit; thank you. It does preserve what I meant to say. And thank you for backing my 1907 idea; we do have a few months, so we can do this slowly and comprehensively.
If I may do a bait-and-switch, what do you think of this new article? Personally, I'm not a big fan, given that we have this already and that the term "accused" is pretty vague (who does the accusing--a prosecutor, or can press accusations also land someone on the list?), as is, in fact, the term "crimes"; George W. Bush might be guilty of "High Crimes and Misdemeanors", but so far, few people have accused him of actual felonies or misdemeanors committed in contravention of federal, state, or local law. And so on. Biruitorul 04:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I did some cleanup there. I removed the link on total victims of Communism because, while it's an important fact and should be mentioned in an article of its own, it's not directly relevant here. One thing the new edits have done is further blur the line between the pre-1948 and post-1989 parties, again raising the merger question. As for the Ziua link, what it does is quote Ioan Mureşan, a disgraced former agriculture minister; the party platform makes no mention of monarchy. I did e-mail the party in hopes of getting a clarification on their position. The Cotidianul link has more specific figures that I inserted. Biruitorul 05:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I made a mistake reading it the first time... accidentally linked two unrelated incidents from the Nikita Kruschev page. My apologies. -- TheSeer ( Talkˑ Contribs) 08:08, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Take a look my the example on the page,
White House Office of Faith-Based and Community Initiatives -- I only hand-created the superscript on the citation-talk page as an illustration of the example. I think I'm doing it the way you're telling me to.... Sorry I wasn't clear: my question is about having a ref link at the end of an inline link -- stylistically that seems odd, but it does what I want, which is to have a page number inline, with a full ref in Refs. But stylistically it seems like I'm footnoting a citation and there should be a better way...????
thanks,
Renice
11:52, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
Go here to see the Ethnic groups sidebar on (not updated) version of page: User:Ling.Nut/NewPageSandbox. -- Ling.Nut 13:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
On WP:ETHNIC, I was randomly clicking on links in the assessment table, and the assessments are outdated.. (see for example Ethnic German and Ethnic Japanese rated as stubs). The table is supplanted by the new ratings system, altho the latter is not really ramped up yet.. and the table takes up a considerable amount of vertical real estate on the project page.
I suggest retiring it. There's a copy of it on User:Ling.Nut/NewPageSandbox that we can refer to while updating assessments.-- Ling.Nut 14:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I've taken a first look at the page, and what I think the immediate disagreement is about, and have commented on the Talk: page. I hope I'm talking about the correct issue, please take a look and let me know. If there are other content or other kinds of issues where you would like me to try to assist, please let me know, and I'd be happy to help. Jayjg (talk) 14:10, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
The sandbox for the Template:WPEthnic groups Sidebar still has some red links... I don't know if you want to leave them there as a "to do list" or "wish list." I commented out a few things (portal, automation, etc.) because they seemed a bit further down the road...Which (if any) of these do you want to keep as redlinks or even begin developing:
-- Ling.Nut 23:44, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I think these are all worth keeping, they'd all be worth starting in the near future. - Jmabel | Talk 23:51, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I have updated the Cults in Our Midst article entry. Take a look and let me know what you think, on the article's talk page. Yours, Smeelgova 23:50, 18 October 2006 (UTC).
Smeelgova: this is an encyclopedia. It's not a soapbox. There is nothing wrong with writing about this topic, but you are basically writing in a partisan manner, and there is something wrong with that.
I suggest that you might take a look at something like Abortion debate to see that very controversial material can be handled in an evenhanded manner. And I'd also suggest a quick read of Wikipedia:Writing for the enemy, which is very short. - Jmabel | Talk 23:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
I was simply trying to contain a discussion on one talk page. I hate having to go back and forth to reread the response and follow-up response. Okay, okay, I get your points above. Thanks for the advice. Yours, Smeelgova 00:09, 19 October 2006 (UTC).
We'll move this page, when we both agree it's done: Sandbox here for page to be moved to:
[[Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Cleanup]]
-- Ling.Nut 02:40, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jmabel,
Yeah, I've always wondered about that "pages needing attention" section too. There was never any text under the highest-level heading, then the section below is about archaeology. I think this and a few other sections can easily (and fruitfully) be removed from the project page... it will make the page crisper, cleaner etc.
I have midterms now, then papers to write. This afternoon I will put up a wikilink to the page on Wikipedia 1.0 that discusses having "Articles about blahbahblah with comments" structure. Beyond that, I may need to stop for a while. I will be checking my talk page for messages.-- Ling.Nut 11:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Testing the "comments" option tonight. Cross your fingers. Please note that Talk:Rukai people is rated class=A as part of the test. It should be returned to class=Stub after the test is completed.-- Ling.Nut 22:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
Hey Joe, thanks for looking into those Chernikhov images, the guy who uploaded them and wrote a really great article with them constructivist architecture doesn't seem to be around anymore. Your reasoning makes sense to me should we add the template you suggested? Also do you have any more photos of the EMP like this Image:Sky Church 1.jpg? And finally, are you going to Portland and could you point me to a page with the info about it? Regards, DVD+ R/W 23:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Joe. I've been asked by
User:MariusM to block
User:William Mauco over a 3RR violation. I personally believe that no such violation took place. The case was reported at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/3RR#User:William_Mauco_reported_by_User:MariusM_.28Result:.29. As another admin, what do you think?
Ronline
✉
09:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I noticed on an article i have edited a bit was voted previosuly for deletion. Since I do question the notablility of this person and since you voted to delete the article in the past maybe you know what should be done with this article. Dwain
-- Ling.Nut 13:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi. I'm a little concerned that maybe your signature won't work in tables, and will break tables if it's trancluded (e.g. a /Comments page transcluded into the WP1 assessments table). That's because it contains the "|" character which is a delimiter in wiki table syntax. Have you tested your signature in tables? -- kingboyk 16:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Ok sorry to answer so late. The map was originally created by Anonimu and he based his map exclusively on the Soviet census of 1989 if I am correct. He did not post it on the article, he just suggested it as a possible map, however everyone sort of ignored it. I contacted him and inquired about it. I took the map and changed it in areas where i knew for sure from census data from 2001 that there were mistakes. Besides the census, the sources I used were [1] and [2] as well as this site for the actual map [3]. Dapiks 17:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure I'll be on Wikipedia much longer, Joe. It's been nice knowing you. SchmuckyTheCat 07:58, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Jmabel,
I feel like I've followed through on the cluster of tasks that I began & saw them to their end... all that's left is a few minor mopup details, all mentioned in bullet points in the section above. This time I'm really really really outta here. I look forward to working with you further, starting in December or perhaps Jan. Later!-- Ling.Nut 23:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
Because you edit Alberto Fujimori, you may want to check out Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Messhermit, which I just filed. -- Descendall 02:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi Joe, I would like your opinions (or edits) on something. I just translated User:DVD R W/Автопортрет from ru: because we didn't have a self-portrait article before and this was just a redirect to portrait with only two lines mentioned there. Could you take a look, edit as you'd like, and tell me if you think it is ready to move into article space? Thanks, DVD+ R/W 20:01, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Because you have made comments on the Wizard (fantasy) talk page, I thought you might be interested to know of a Request for Comments: Talk:Wizard (fantasy)#Request for comment Goldfritha 02:09, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
Three thoughts:
Hopefully it made sense. -- ReyBrujo 05:06, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
About a week ago I noticed a contradiction in WTO Ministerial Conference of 1999 protest activity relating to this protester wearing Nikes. One sentence stated this protester was smashing a Niketown and another sentence a Starbucks. In a conversation with another editor, neither of us could find this picture, and the only mentions I found were in op-ed articles and columns, leading me to believe it's an apocryphal story. However, I just noticed your earlier post saying you have seen this photo? Do you remember wear, by any chance? Natalie 18:53, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
HI Jmabel,
My pet project includes a fair use image, taken from a non-US, quasi-governmental website (national park, actually). This image and the accompanying fair use argument were posted long before I entered the picture... I'm afraid that the "fair use" argument will be stricken down if I try to put the page up for GA or FA. The page it is on bears no copyright notice, but I doubt that argument would carry much weight.
I fear that asking a bureaucratic org. to put GFDL or other licensing verbiage on a particular page will be an uphill struggle. Moreover, English would not be their native language, and that might further hinder communication.
However, there is another possibility. The website in question has a free download page for images, and perhaps I could persuade them to copy the desired image to that page.. Full details are here. I don't know whether this fact provides an exception to the rule about free licensing etc. If you happen to know of anyone who is knowledgeable about these issues, I would be eternally grateful if you would send them my way.
Thanks, -- Ling.Nut 03:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
I can't see your email address because I have that option disabled, but I emailed you at the speakeasy.org address that's on the bottom of your webpage. -- Descendall 00:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
Hi again Jmabel. I learned how to create an archive earlier this week when I took care of my talk page and found that it wasn't as difficult as I thought so I took a stab at it on Oscar's discussion page. If you have the time I would like you to check on it with the following thoughts in mind.
I will appreciate your taking time to make sure I did this correctly and any advice you can give will be helpful too. Thanks. MarnetteD | Talk 21:40, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
I don't think there's any reason why you can't edit the article now. I have to admit, Psychohistorian is not as active in this discussion as I would like. It makes no sense to hold up the article while this drags on. Thanks and happy editting! -- ShinmaWa( talk) 01:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello Jmabel -- Thank you for your recent message on my Talk page. I answered you there, please stop by when you get a chance ... -- Polaris999 18:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
If the substance of this edit is accurate, feel free to re-add with citation. But please be aware that the locution "Jew George Soros" is more or less an ethnic insult. If the insult was accidental, be aware that the more appropriate way to write this is "George Soros, who is a Jew".'. Ok and Thanks! -- bg007
Hello, I'm sorry it's been awhile, but I recently agreed to mediate that case. Please either accept or reject me as a mediator there, and if you accept, please let me know if you would prefer public or private mediation. Also, assuming you are still interested in mediation, please watchlist the page if you haven't already. Thanks! Armedblowfish ( talk| mail) 01:53, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Hello, you have probably found out already the answers to the two questions you have posted on the Costache Negruzzi discussion page more than two months ago. If that is not the case, you may find my answers there. All the best, Quatrocentu 09:49, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
JMabel,
I saw a border on a different WikiProject, and thought it made the page look cleaner. I put it on Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups; if you don't think it adds anything then revert.
Cheers-- Ling.Nut 18:56, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Your recent edit to El Vez appears broken. I'd fix it for you, but I don't understand the <ref> tag from memory, and won't have time to read up on it for another couple of days. Could you take a look at it? adavidw 06:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
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Thanks | |
I've been following a lot of your edits recently, and I just wanted to thank you for your tremendous work. You're truly one of the best editors on Wikipedia. Descendall 07:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC) |