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Hi there, Jim10701. Thanks for chiming in on that Lucerne POV issue – it's good to know that someone agrees. Your post ("just how creepy reading about it here made me feel") made me laugh. Best, Pslide ( talk) 04:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Jim I'm not sure I share your feeling about mentioning PI as Wittgenstein's most important work (arguably). Is it not arguable? Is it not his most important? Seems like you must object to the arguability bit, but it is less than certain in light of other unpublished material. -- Ring Cinema ( talk) 13:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
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- Although this is an improvement since it no longer states the opinion as fact, it remains uninformative:
- Who says that?
- When did they say it? Now?
- How many people think that? How many is some?
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- What kind of bias might they have?
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Would it do any good to mention that PI "is one of the most important works of our time" as in W T Jones's A History of Western Philosophy [Vol 5, p. 367]? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ring Cinema ( talk • contribs) 22:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I've answered your good question on my talkpage.-- Slp1 ( talk) 21:55, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. -- Jatkins ( talk - contribs) 17:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Moved to Talk:Lollardy#Caption_of_Wycliffe.2FLollard_picture.
You came to Talk:Southern American English with self-admitted ignorance and are now leaving the same but your off-the-cuff, self-righteous comment leads me to wonder whether you're a dick, a troll, or both. Either way, I don't think that sort of thing is appropriate. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 08:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I relocated this discussion to the article's discussion page.
You wrote : « On July 15, 2010, you edited the translation of the title "La Marseillaise" from "The [Song] of Marseille" to "The [Song of] Marseille". I do not know French well, but isn't the word Marseillaise an adjective, meaning of Marseille, in the style of Marseille, or something similar? (I'm thinking of Lyonnaise, Bordelaise and similar adjectives as examples.) .... »
My reply : No, it is a noun in this case, but your analogy is somewhat correct. (A parallel in English might be "New Yorker", as in "You are a New Yorker", or "A New Yorker sang this song," or perhaps, the automobile "Chrysler New Yorker".)
The « Marseillais » was the name (noun) of a military garrison stationed in Strasbourg at the time of the French Revolution. Our national anthem is the melody sang by these troops, which is named for them. It is not named for the city, per se.
It begins with the particle « La » and takes a feminine form « Marseillaise » because it refers to « une chanson », "a song", which is feminine. (This is analagous to the French word for "Halloween", which in French is « La Toussaint » which would appear to take a masculine particle, but instead takes the feminine particle « La » because it refers to « la fête », "the celebration".)
I could not find the demonym for Marseille, « Marseillaise », in my AMHER or OED. I also asked a native English speaker who told me that such a word does not exist. (On the other hand, the demonyms for Lyon, « Lyonnais » and « Lyonnaise », are English words that appear in the AMHER and OED and other English dictionaries as you wrote in your statement.) So, it simply does not exist. The English language also lacks demonyms for most other large cities in France, for example « Nantais » for Nantes, or « Toulousain » for Toulouse, etc.
So, my thought process was this: If the garrison had been known as "Le New Yorker" (masculine), the song would be called « La New Yorker » (feminine). The actual garrison was known as « Le Marseillais », hence, the song is called « La Marseillaise ». A demonym for Marseille does not exist in the English language, thus « The Marseille » or « The [Song of] Marseille » was my translation.
As you can clearly see by my grammatical errors, my English is not good as it should be. (Please accept my apologies.) If you are a native speaker of English and wish to change the text of the article, please feel free to do so. I can only do what I think is correct at the time, and anyone is free to change it! with my best regards to you, Charvex ( talk) 10:36, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
For the conclusion of this conversation, go here.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 23:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
FYI, an editor has contested this proposed deletion and as a contested PROD, the article has been restored on request. I haven't dug through the sources the editor provided with respect to the hoax question, but I did see at least one promising reference via GBooks, please discuss the hoax question further with that editor (there's more info on my talk page from him). Cheers, -- joe decker talk to me 15:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Jane was born in Denver (her parents were from ri, dad was in the army). She left Denver at 10 days old to go to providence. 99.101.44.48 ( talk) 03:20, 29 August 2011 (UTC) her sister Pam
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Thanks for comment and correction of Hart Crane.
It's frustrating that the paper's archives are down at this time. My sense is that the 'sic' probably refers to the window not being "directly across" from lower Manhattan. The source being a local new York paper, they might want to be precise about such things. I'd say in WP terms it's not such a big deal. I'm not sure about the MOS usage of 'sic' in article texts. I think it's discouraged anyway. I think it was me that added the original text in (a few years ago). I hope that clarifies things a bit. Best wishes Span ( talk) 14:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
You raised legitimate issues concerning the page Michael_Kay_(software_engineer) and I have responded to those issues on the talk page. I would be grateful if you would read my comments and make constructive suggestions for a way forward. Do you think it should be deleted and that the links from articles such as XSLT should be removed? Mhkay ( talk) 17:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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Let's change that lede. Agadant is a good editor and responsible for much of the article, but he needs to relise it can be improved upon, and by other people too, not just him.
/info/en/?search=Talk:Van_Morrison#The_Gatekeeper_and_the_current_status_of_Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.18.188.249 ( talk) 07:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Agadant ( talk) 19:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello - as you know there is a report on the administrator's noticeboard concerning a comment you made about another user. I looked through your contributions and you seem like a rational hard working really smart guy. So I thought maybe talking to you might resolve this problem before someone throws down a block. You made a comment (as you know) right above where you said "enslaved in a very narrow slice of life here at Wikipedia", "cannot function at all outside that tiny environment", "unbalanced people here", "the mad, tormented dog who stands guard over it." I doubt I have to tell you that this is a bit offensive. However, what I do need to say is that there is a policy against it called WP:NPA which prohibits personal attacks. Now, the reason for this is not because it hurts feelings. On some level, folks need to be adults and have thick skin. The reason we have that is because this is a collaborative editing environment and it makes it very difficult to work with editors when there is name calling. Wikipedia could not function if editors would allowed to throw insults. It would make it a very hostile environment and the articles would suffer for it. I would like to ask you to please redact your statements above. If you can find a collegial way of solving this issue with Agadant, that would be best. If not, there are places to work it out such as dispute resolution and the mediation cabal. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.--v/r - T P 21:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
In order to keep this discussion in one place so we and other editors can better follow it, I have moved the comments posted in this section and in User talk:Wolfdog#Mercutio pronunciations to the article's talk page, in the section titled Pronunciation. Any further comments should be made there.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 19:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
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I saw your feedback about this article and I also saw that similar concerns were expressed on the article's talk page. So I have completely rewritten the article. Could you please take a look and let me know what you think now? Thank you. ChemNerd ( talk) 22:00, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
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I made the dab page as you raised, well spotted. But you'll now need to edit (invert) the RM template if you wish the dab moved from position as created to cover the dragonball redirect. It will take 10-20 minutes for any edits saved to your template on Talk page to be picked up by the WP:RM main page. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Having read Your comments at the Rod McKuen site, I wonder if You would be up for working on the Coventry Patmore page. I have made a few comments on the talk page but have refrained from changing the article proper. Kdammers ( talk) 05:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I know you are retired and all, but you may find this enlightening:
http://grammar.about.com/od/fh/g/Future-In-The-Past.htm
It's also called the Past Prospective, but Googling that turns up far too much unrelated fluff, and actual linguistics publications seem to prefer | Future-in-the-Past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlerin ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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Hi there, Jim10701. Thanks for chiming in on that Lucerne POV issue – it's good to know that someone agrees. Your post ("just how creepy reading about it here made me feel") made me laugh. Best, Pslide ( talk) 04:31, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
Jim I'm not sure I share your feeling about mentioning PI as Wittgenstein's most important work (arguably). Is it not arguable? Is it not his most important? Seems like you must object to the arguability bit, but it is less than certain in light of other unpublished material. -- Ring Cinema ( talk) 13:05, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
![]() | This page in a nutshell: Avoid using phrases such as "some people say" or any variations of the sort without providing sources. |
- Weasel words are words or statements that seemingly support statements without attributing opinions to verifiable sources. They give the force of authority to a phrase or a sentence without letting the reader decide whether the source of the opinion is reliable. If a statement can't stand without weasel words, it lacks neutral point of view; either a source for the statement should be found, or the statement should be removed. If a statement can stand without weasel words, they may be undermining its neutrality and the statement may be better off standing without them.
- Although this is an improvement since it no longer states the opinion as fact, it remains uninformative:
- Who says that?
- When did they say it? Now?
- How many people think that? How many is some?
- What kind of people think that? Where are they?
- What kind of bias might they have?
- Why is this of any significance?
Would it do any good to mention that PI "is one of the most important works of our time" as in W T Jones's A History of Western Philosophy [Vol 5, p. 367]? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ring Cinema ( talk • contribs) 22:43, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
I've answered your good question on my talkpage.-- Slp1 ( talk) 21:55, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for letting me know. -- Jatkins ( talk - contribs) 17:38, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
Moved to Talk:Lollardy#Caption_of_Wycliffe.2FLollard_picture.
You came to Talk:Southern American English with self-admitted ignorance and are now leaving the same but your off-the-cuff, self-righteous comment leads me to wonder whether you're a dick, a troll, or both. Either way, I don't think that sort of thing is appropriate. — Ƶ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɛ̃ɾ̃ˡi] 08:15, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
I relocated this discussion to the article's discussion page.
You wrote : « On July 15, 2010, you edited the translation of the title "La Marseillaise" from "The [Song] of Marseille" to "The [Song of] Marseille". I do not know French well, but isn't the word Marseillaise an adjective, meaning of Marseille, in the style of Marseille, or something similar? (I'm thinking of Lyonnaise, Bordelaise and similar adjectives as examples.) .... »
My reply : No, it is a noun in this case, but your analogy is somewhat correct. (A parallel in English might be "New Yorker", as in "You are a New Yorker", or "A New Yorker sang this song," or perhaps, the automobile "Chrysler New Yorker".)
The « Marseillais » was the name (noun) of a military garrison stationed in Strasbourg at the time of the French Revolution. Our national anthem is the melody sang by these troops, which is named for them. It is not named for the city, per se.
It begins with the particle « La » and takes a feminine form « Marseillaise » because it refers to « une chanson », "a song", which is feminine. (This is analagous to the French word for "Halloween", which in French is « La Toussaint » which would appear to take a masculine particle, but instead takes the feminine particle « La » because it refers to « la fête », "the celebration".)
I could not find the demonym for Marseille, « Marseillaise », in my AMHER or OED. I also asked a native English speaker who told me that such a word does not exist. (On the other hand, the demonyms for Lyon, « Lyonnais » and « Lyonnaise », are English words that appear in the AMHER and OED and other English dictionaries as you wrote in your statement.) So, it simply does not exist. The English language also lacks demonyms for most other large cities in France, for example « Nantais » for Nantes, or « Toulousain » for Toulouse, etc.
So, my thought process was this: If the garrison had been known as "Le New Yorker" (masculine), the song would be called « La New Yorker » (feminine). The actual garrison was known as « Le Marseillais », hence, the song is called « La Marseillaise ». A demonym for Marseille does not exist in the English language, thus « The Marseille » or « The [Song of] Marseille » was my translation.
As you can clearly see by my grammatical errors, my English is not good as it should be. (Please accept my apologies.) If you are a native speaker of English and wish to change the text of the article, please feel free to do so. I can only do what I think is correct at the time, and anyone is free to change it! with my best regards to you, Charvex ( talk) 10:36, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
For the conclusion of this conversation, go here.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 23:18, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
FYI, an editor has contested this proposed deletion and as a contested PROD, the article has been restored on request. I haven't dug through the sources the editor provided with respect to the hoax question, but I did see at least one promising reference via GBooks, please discuss the hoax question further with that editor (there's more info on my talk page from him). Cheers, -- joe decker talk to me 15:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
Jane was born in Denver (her parents were from ri, dad was in the army). She left Denver at 10 days old to go to providence. 99.101.44.48 ( talk) 03:20, 29 August 2011 (UTC) her sister Pam
Thanks I saw that you decided to use User:Koavf/Userboxes/Christian radical--what made you decide to use it and how did you come to the conclusion that you were a Christian radical? Please respond on my talk. Also, let me know if you're interested in collaborating on any articles related to this topic. Thanks. — Justin (koavf)❤ T☮ C☺ M☯ 10:42, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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Thanks for comment and correction of Hart Crane.
It's frustrating that the paper's archives are down at this time. My sense is that the 'sic' probably refers to the window not being "directly across" from lower Manhattan. The source being a local new York paper, they might want to be precise about such things. I'd say in WP terms it's not such a big deal. I'm not sure about the MOS usage of 'sic' in article texts. I think it's discouraged anyway. I think it was me that added the original text in (a few years ago). I hope that clarifies things a bit. Best wishes Span ( talk) 14:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
You raised legitimate issues concerning the page Michael_Kay_(software_engineer) and I have responded to those issues on the talk page. I would be grateful if you would read my comments and make constructive suggestions for a way forward. Do you think it should be deleted and that the links from articles such as XSLT should be removed? Mhkay ( talk) 17:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
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A smile for you
You’ve just received a random act of kindness! 66.87.7.19 ( talk) 15:54, 4 April 2012 (UTC) |
Let's change that lede. Agadant is a good editor and responsible for much of the article, but he needs to relise it can be improved upon, and by other people too, not just him.
/info/en/?search=Talk:Van_Morrison#The_Gatekeeper_and_the_current_status_of_Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.18.188.249 ( talk) 07:01, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Agadant ( talk) 19:59, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
Hello - as you know there is a report on the administrator's noticeboard concerning a comment you made about another user. I looked through your contributions and you seem like a rational hard working really smart guy. So I thought maybe talking to you might resolve this problem before someone throws down a block. You made a comment (as you know) right above where you said "enslaved in a very narrow slice of life here at Wikipedia", "cannot function at all outside that tiny environment", "unbalanced people here", "the mad, tormented dog who stands guard over it." I doubt I have to tell you that this is a bit offensive. However, what I do need to say is that there is a policy against it called WP:NPA which prohibits personal attacks. Now, the reason for this is not because it hurts feelings. On some level, folks need to be adults and have thick skin. The reason we have that is because this is a collaborative editing environment and it makes it very difficult to work with editors when there is name calling. Wikipedia could not function if editors would allowed to throw insults. It would make it a very hostile environment and the articles would suffer for it. I would like to ask you to please redact your statements above. If you can find a collegial way of solving this issue with Agadant, that would be best. If not, there are places to work it out such as dispute resolution and the mediation cabal. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.--v/r - T P 21:41, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
In order to keep this discussion in one place so we and other editors can better follow it, I have moved the comments posted in this section and in User talk:Wolfdog#Mercutio pronunciations to the article's talk page, in the section titled Pronunciation. Any further comments should be made there.-- Jim10701 ( talk) 19:42, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
You may be interested in new Template:US states and territories. Yours aye, Buaidh 15:34, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
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I saw your feedback about this article and I also saw that similar concerns were expressed on the article's talk page. So I have completely rewritten the article. Could you please take a look and let me know what you think now? Thank you. ChemNerd ( talk) 22:00, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
ChrisGualtieri ( talk) 15:58, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
I made the dab page as you raised, well spotted. But you'll now need to edit (invert) the RM template if you wish the dab moved from position as created to cover the dragonball redirect. It will take 10-20 minutes for any edits saved to your template on Talk page to be picked up by the WP:RM main page. In ictu oculi ( talk) 03:11, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
Having read Your comments at the Rod McKuen site, I wonder if You would be up for working on the Coventry Patmore page. I have made a few comments on the talk page but have refrained from changing the article proper. Kdammers ( talk) 05:25, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
I know you are retired and all, but you may find this enlightening:
http://grammar.about.com/od/fh/g/Future-In-The-Past.htm
It's also called the Past Prospective, but Googling that turns up far too much unrelated fluff, and actual linguistics publications seem to prefer | Future-in-the-Past. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlerin ( talk • contribs) 13:42, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
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