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Loonymonkey (
talk)
03:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
This entire online encyclopedia is, in some respects, an exercise in soapboxing. Your article on Barack Obama, for example, is less of an informational summary than it is an advertisement and an endorsement. But when someone like me wants to point out that not much is really known about this person, that his records have been suspiciously hidden away, that there exists evidence that he is disqualified from being the US president because he is not a natural born US citizen and, indeed, might not be a US citizen at all, in any sense, then you want to delete all of the edits that person makes. The fact is, you believe yourself to hold trump cards on what may, and what may not, be expressed on Wikipedia. You hide behind moral pretenses, but pretenses is all you have. One day your many egregious and presumptuous errors in declaring "facts" that are not factual will catch up with you. Jenab6 ( talk) 01:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
As a source of information for mathematics and for the physical sciences, Wikipedia is useful and reliable. It is far less useful and reliable on topics within history, human biology, and politics where race and Jews are concerned. An unbiased reader, if inclined to investigate, quickly gains the impression that the persons with moderation power over Wikipedia's content are biased in favor of racial egalitarianism, favor of Zionism, and in favor of the leftist social agenda generally. In the past, the extent to which this bias was obvious was greater than it is now. Some of Wikipedia's more dubious content has been improved.
But these biases are still present, as is shown (for example) by the lack of seriousness in the treatment of the idea that Barack Obama might not have been born in the United States and is not qualified to be the President of the United States. The people who say he isn't a US citizen have a much better case than the Obama article makes it appear. There are not many other reasons that would account for the persistent unavailability of so much of Obama's documents and records and for the misrepresentation of the very small amount of relevant paper he has allowed us to see.
Wikipedia is useful reference for math and for physical science, but it is not irreplaceable. I'll make edits as I judge them be necessary, just as anyone else may do, for as long as I can. Alert whomever you will to the fact that I'm doing so. Remove them as you wish, and block me if you wish. I'll still be able to find whatever information I want to find, somewhere else. Jenab6 ( talk) 09:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/sotomayor.asp
Since then, the purported "castration" quote (and sometimes the entire article in which it originated) has been circulated via e-mail in versions that — ironically — strip the words of their original attribution and context, leading many readers to believe that it was taken from a genuine news report. However, the whole thing was just a bit of satire published on 2 June 2009 by the Carbolic Smoke Ball web site, whose page headers proclaim that they feature "News unencumbered by the facts" and have been "Proud purveyors of fake news since 2005."
I trust Snopes in the same way that I trust Wikipedia, FactCheck, and Politifact: namely, to tell the truth somewhere between 95% and 99% of the time. There are no information sources run by Heavenly Angels who are completely disinterested in the politics of Earth. The way modern propaganda mills work involves telling the truth most of the time, so that most people won't question the occasional lie.
The "castration" rumor had me fooled for about 10 minutes. When I discovered that it was false, I immediately went back to the discussion page to delete my entry; however, I found that someone had already deleted it. I posted an apology for the error.
I do not EVER knowingly post false information as factual.
Please stop adding unreferenced or
poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at
Craig Cobb. Content of this nature could be regarded as
defamatory and is in violation of
Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. This seems to be your own speculation/interpretation of events - all possibly controversial material in a
WP:BLP must be reliably sourced. Please do not replace it. Thanks
Dougweller (
talk)
21:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Please do not add unreferenced or
poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about
living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to
Shooting of Zachary Hammond. Thank you. -
Mr
X
12:38, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
I believe the biography you posted on your user page to be a fabrication, considering your edits and philosophy. The tone and "facts" do not add up.
What you believe cannot be true about my home and my domestic activities matters not at all. I planted apple trees around my house in rural West Virginia in 2001, 2002, and 2003. They have since grown and borne fruit. I've seen squirrels steal my apples and eat them while sitting in the tree. One "raises" apple trees in the same way he raises any other crop. This is a linguistic convention. The grower isn't trying to get the credit for what the sun, soil, and rain do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenab2 ( talk • contribs) 06:51, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia! I am glad to see you are interested in discussing a topic. However, as a
general rule, talk pages such as
Talk:Early life and career of Barack Obama are for discussion related to improving the article,
not general discussion about the topic. If you have specific questions about certain topics, consider visiting
our reference desk and asking them there instead of on article talk pages. Thank you.
Loonymonkey (
talk)
03:27, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
This entire online encyclopedia is, in some respects, an exercise in soapboxing. Your article on Barack Obama, for example, is less of an informational summary than it is an advertisement and an endorsement. But when someone like me wants to point out that not much is really known about this person, that his records have been suspiciously hidden away, that there exists evidence that he is disqualified from being the US president because he is not a natural born US citizen and, indeed, might not be a US citizen at all, in any sense, then you want to delete all of the edits that person makes. The fact is, you believe yourself to hold trump cards on what may, and what may not, be expressed on Wikipedia. You hide behind moral pretenses, but pretenses is all you have. One day your many egregious and presumptuous errors in declaring "facts" that are not factual will catch up with you. Jenab6 ( talk) 01:17, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
As a source of information for mathematics and for the physical sciences, Wikipedia is useful and reliable. It is far less useful and reliable on topics within history, human biology, and politics where race and Jews are concerned. An unbiased reader, if inclined to investigate, quickly gains the impression that the persons with moderation power over Wikipedia's content are biased in favor of racial egalitarianism, favor of Zionism, and in favor of the leftist social agenda generally. In the past, the extent to which this bias was obvious was greater than it is now. Some of Wikipedia's more dubious content has been improved.
But these biases are still present, as is shown (for example) by the lack of seriousness in the treatment of the idea that Barack Obama might not have been born in the United States and is not qualified to be the President of the United States. The people who say he isn't a US citizen have a much better case than the Obama article makes it appear. There are not many other reasons that would account for the persistent unavailability of so much of Obama's documents and records and for the misrepresentation of the very small amount of relevant paper he has allowed us to see.
Wikipedia is useful reference for math and for physical science, but it is not irreplaceable. I'll make edits as I judge them be necessary, just as anyone else may do, for as long as I can. Alert whomever you will to the fact that I'm doing so. Remove them as you wish, and block me if you wish. I'll still be able to find whatever information I want to find, somewhere else. Jenab6 ( talk) 09:54, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/sotomayor.asp
Since then, the purported "castration" quote (and sometimes the entire article in which it originated) has been circulated via e-mail in versions that — ironically — strip the words of their original attribution and context, leading many readers to believe that it was taken from a genuine news report. However, the whole thing was just a bit of satire published on 2 June 2009 by the Carbolic Smoke Ball web site, whose page headers proclaim that they feature "News unencumbered by the facts" and have been "Proud purveyors of fake news since 2005."
I trust Snopes in the same way that I trust Wikipedia, FactCheck, and Politifact: namely, to tell the truth somewhere between 95% and 99% of the time. There are no information sources run by Heavenly Angels who are completely disinterested in the politics of Earth. The way modern propaganda mills work involves telling the truth most of the time, so that most people won't question the occasional lie.
The "castration" rumor had me fooled for about 10 minutes. When I discovered that it was false, I immediately went back to the discussion page to delete my entry; however, I found that someone had already deleted it. I posted an apology for the error.
I do not EVER knowingly post false information as factual.
Please stop adding unreferenced or
poorly referenced biographical content, especially if controversial, to articles or any other Wikipedia page, as you did at
Craig Cobb. Content of this nature could be regarded as
defamatory and is in violation of
Wikipedia policy. If you continue, you may be
blocked from editing Wikipedia. This seems to be your own speculation/interpretation of events - all possibly controversial material in a
WP:BLP must be reliably sourced. Please do not replace it. Thanks
Dougweller (
talk)
21:48, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
Please do not add unreferenced or
poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about
living (or recently deceased) persons, as you did to
Shooting of Zachary Hammond. Thank you. -
Mr
X
12:38, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
I believe the biography you posted on your user page to be a fabrication, considering your edits and philosophy. The tone and "facts" do not add up.
What you believe cannot be true about my home and my domestic activities matters not at all. I planted apple trees around my house in rural West Virginia in 2001, 2002, and 2003. They have since grown and borne fruit. I've seen squirrels steal my apples and eat them while sitting in the tree. One "raises" apple trees in the same way he raises any other crop. This is a linguistic convention. The grower isn't trying to get the credit for what the sun, soil, and rain do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jenab2 ( talk • contribs) 06:51, 22 November 2016 (UTC)