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Dersonlwd Talk 14:11, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi, David. Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm glad to see someone with your musical perspective added to the group of Wikipedia "editors". I've left a comment on the singing school talk page also. - Rlvaughn 21:56, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hi, Rlvaughn. Thanks for taking an interest in my singing school article. I'm glad to have someone with your additional perspective helping. Going to be quite busy in the next few days, but I can't wait to come back and add more info. Jdavidb 15:38, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I left a question on Talk:Ronald Reagan: my understanding is that Reagan was indeed the first divorced man to be president. But if you have other information about Jackson, I'd love to be corrected! - Nunh-huh 20:48, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I was wrong on that. Misunderstood that it was Jackson's wife who was divorced, not Jackson himself. Jdavidb 19:04, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the GREAT edits to the American Standard Version article. They have made the article more informative. I agree about the Internet copies. I can't believe the error rate that there is in them! But I guess that it's better than nothing. iHoshie 03:31, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Gilgamesh and/or Fanger, please discuss here what you might know about use of an apostrophe in the possessive of a singular noun already ending in s, specifically the possessive of Jesus. Thanks. Jdavidb 14:34, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Feedback re: removing links to commercial sites. A massive majority of websites are commercial. This is doubly true in areas such as entertainment. Thus it is not inappropriate that Wikipedia links to such sites in general. The crux point is that such an external link should be worthwhile (e.g. it should be the best fan site devoted to Brad Pitt, or whoever). When an anon goes round adding virtually identical links to lots of articles, this criteria is very rarely satisfied and so it is right to remove the links, as you have been doing - I just wanted to point the reason for removal is because they are poor links, not commercial ones. I hope you don't think I am being too petty by labouring this distinction. Pcb21| Pete 20:59, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I advocate home education for those who want to. Not only is it a great and flexible way of learning, but you get to go to places, follow your interests, and make friends all over the country and abroad.
I am quite interested in how your wife got on in later years of home education. Did she go to college and/or university or did she go and get a job? -- Spe88 18:14, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Okay,David if that is not the method and purpose of the bible what is it? Put answer in Bible discussion. Remember no personal opinon.
Charlie
Jdavidb 15:26, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Thanks David, I'm not that interested in the subject. Just how would you define it to someone who had never heard of it before? Wikipedia is too much of a popularity contest and lack of expertise. I have yet too run into good professional biblical scholarship. But I have certainly come across a lot of suspicion and paranoia. I have often wondered how Galileo would have fared on here. Not to well, me thinks. Thanks for your kind words.
Charlie Turek charlesturek@comcast.net
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
OR
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man ( comment| talk)
I don't understand why the use of this phrase is not NPOV. -- Eleassar777 21:56, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please carry this discussion to the talk page of Pope John Paul II. I will explain here, but we need to reach consensus there. (Unfortunately the discussion was just archived, so we may need to start it again.)
Basically it is not NPOV because there are a number of Protestants who do not believe that Peter could even have any legitimate successors. Some have stated in the discussion that the dispute is only over the extent of his powers, but I don't think they have the whole picture of Protestantism. There are many who don't believe Peter could be succeeded, and there are probably some who believe he could but who don't believe the Pope is a legitimate successor. This doesn't even get into Eastern Orthodox -- I don't know if they accept him as a "successor of Peter" or not. (I think they probably do.)
Let's talk there for consensus and compromise. Maybe we can say, "26Nth successor of Peter, to the Roman Catholic Church." Jdavidb 22:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think definitely. It's got good pictures, very thorough, NPOV, etc. Jdavidb 13:21, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm curious what you view is on NCdave's RFC. You and I bumped heads on the Terri article about the Terri-in-disabled-state photo and you showed me an angle I hadn't considered... We reached an agreement, and I felt that the result was better than what I could have done on my own. I haven't been recently editing that article, because there was just too much pressure from users who seem to refuse to behave as reasonably as you did. ... and checking in, it seems to be getting worse now that the matter has hit the Terri blogs. **sigh** In any case, thanks for being a grade A wikipedian. :) -- Gmaxwell 05:27, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jdavidb, I hesitate to jump into such troubled waters, but I feel obliged to offer my comments on some of your recent contributions. I am doing this because I believe you are commited to NPOV (your treaty comments were very well put), and hope that you will be big enough to accept these remarks in the spirit with which they are intended. I have observed your use of terms like "anti-Terri" and "pro-Terri" to refer to those with POVs supportive of Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers respectively. Given that Michael alleges (and the courts have, at least to some extent, agreed) that he has enacted Terri's wishes, I'm asking you to give some consideration to whether these terms are appropriately NPOV. I realise that you're using them in talk (and off Wikipedia), not in articles, but I hope that you can see how people may find these terms pejorative amd inflamatory, and consequently doubt your commitment to NPOV. Bovlb 04:26, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)
Hello. Since you were part of an earlier discussion on the name of this page, could you take a look at it again? This page was originally at Yogurt but some time ago it was moved to Yoghurt (where it is now). There is a request on WP:RM to move it back, and I think the policies say it should be, but that is being disputed. Regards. Jonathunder 16:53, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to get rid of link spam. Ive removed a lot myself in the past. If you ever need support on somthing, over a dispute or whatever, let me know. There have been cases where I clean up an articles external link section ( Literature comes to mind) and ive removed dozens of links leaving just a few, all of them self-serving advertising. It would be good if Wikipedia had a better policy for external links, such as requireing an explanation on why its relevant to the article is one thought. Stbalbach 16:26, 13 July 2005 (UTC) reply
I agree wholeheartedly with your attitude to linkspam. You have summarised its characteristics very well your page dedicated to the topic. I have seen (and reverted) enough of it in my time to know. Cheers -- PhilipO 23:44, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
Hey David, I just thought that Restorationism is one article you may want to look at. I've done some minor stuff to it, but it needs a little more work. Carltonh 23:13, 15 July 2005 (UTC) reply
They're high quality articles from an encyclopedic source, and on topic. I'm inclined to keep most of them. Jayjg (talk) 18:57, 29 July 2005 (UTC) reply
From User:AFethke, moved from my user page:
Well it may be generally acceped, but I don't and it is my page, thank you very much! Play police somewhere else.
11:16, 3 August 2005
I notice you've been removing this category from various roguelikes, some of which I probably added myself - apologies if that was inappropriate.
In my experience the phrase "open source" is regularly used in two quite distinct manners, one being the strict sense promoted by FSF, and the other more vernacular sense of "you can download the source code and compile it if you want".
It is additionally confusing that Category:open source claims to be in the process of deferring to Category:Free software, but I haven't yet found the discussions that led to that. However presumably there must still be a category that does catch the "you can download ..." sense where the stricter sense doesn't apply, and I don't know of a name to call it other than "open source" - do you know of such a category? Hv 02:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC) reply
JDavid,
I left you a note on the homeschool article talk page and then I went to my talk page and read your welcome and comments about how to do things. I think I made some more mistakes(didn't put the post at the bottom, didn't use the~~(okay, I just found that little mark on my computer keyboard. You're right, I should figure out how this works before posting again. I'll read the articles you recommended. Thanks for being understanding.~~Linda Kelley~~ Did I do that right?
Can I ask you to consider, on the category talk page, whether this is really an appropriate Wikipedia category? DJ Clayworth 16:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC) reply
I support the project wholeheartedly. Part of the problem I see is that the ambiguity in Wikipedia:Spam, and even Wikipedia:Cite sources and Wikipedia:Reliable sources provides a means for spammers to (intentionally or not) game the system. Unfortunately, I have to tell you that I'm going to be on an indefinite WikiBreak soon. After this weekend, I'll be gone, but I'll probably make an appearance next weekend if I can. Anyway, for what it's worth, I'll sign on. Tell me i there's anything you want my help with this weekend. And I suggest that you publicize/ask for comment on the Village Pump, see what happens. Sorry that I can't do more than that, but this is a Good Thing to do! Dmcdevit· t 21:55, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Would you mind directly signing the consensus statement with ~~~~? The user is currently complaining about his block. Add something stronger if you like. - Taxman Talk 19:38, 16 September 2005 (UTC) reply
Hi, Jdavidb, we don't often edit the same articles, but anytime I've been on one of the pages you were active at, I could see that you care a lot about NPOV. If you have time, and if this doesn't clash too much with your main interests, could you have a quick look at Bernard Cardinal Law. I found what I considered to be clear NPOV violations (e.g. "the infamous Cardinal Law" . . . "Law's name has become known nationwide for his scandalous behavior in the Church, and he is arguably recognized as the most corrupt official the Roman Catholic Church has had in centuries"), and I removed them as well as doing a little bit of rewording. The editor who had put them in reverted me with an edit summary "rv false pov claims by Ann Heneghan". I reverted again, objecting again to the use of the word "infamous". The editor reverted me, but then voluntarily removed "infamous", though leaving the other changes.
Because I'm a Catholic, I'm not necessarily the best person to have a clear idea on NPOV for this article. I have a strong sense of outrage at Cardinal Law's reassignment of offending priests. I also have a strong wish not to have the Church in general appear in a bad light. (I have heard that Pope John Paul was never made aware of the Law situation, though obviously people who don't want to believe that won't believe it.) I think I'm going to stay away from that article for the moment. It might be good if someone who isn't Catholic or anti-Catholic took a look at it, solely for the purpose of making it NPOV. I promise it wouldn't be as time-consuming as getting involved in Terri Schiavo! Thanks.
By the way, I like the photo of the baby! Ann Heneghan (talk) 15:23, 22 September 2005 (UTC) reply
Hi; I just wanted to take a moment to say first, congratulations on the marriage! Looking at the data, it looks like your honeymoon was right about two weeks long :) Second, congratulations on your new boy! I've got little ones of my own (youngest less than a year). Editing Wikipedia is difficult with a writhing little infant on your lap :)
For what it's worth; I really think you'd make a good admin, if only you had more exposure to admin-esque areas of the pedia. That's my only strong hesitancy. I think your RfA is going to pass with flying colors. But, if it doesn't (and even if it does) please spend a bit more time in areas other than the article and user namespaces. I think your contributions would be most welcome in those areas in addition to your work in the above two namespaces. All the best, -- Durin 22:49, 22 September 2005 (UTC) reply
Please go here and express your opinion on whether Category:Handbook of Texas citations should be deleted. As a Wikipedian in Texas, your opinion on this topic is particularly valuable. 66.167.253.162 17:31, 26 September 2005 (UTC). reply
Welcome to my talk page. Please sign and date your entries by inserting ~~~~ at the end. Start a new talk topic. |
Past discussions on my talk page may be found on the following archive pages. My personal talk page archiving policy may be found at User:Jdavidb/Talk archiving
Hello, welcome to Wikipedia. Here are some useful links in case you haven't already found them:
If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian!
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Dersonlwd Talk 14:11, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Hi, David. Welcome to Wikipedia. I'm glad to see someone with your musical perspective added to the group of Wikipedia "editors". I've left a comment on the singing school talk page also. - Rlvaughn 21:56, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)
Hi, Rlvaughn. Thanks for taking an interest in my singing school article. I'm glad to have someone with your additional perspective helping. Going to be quite busy in the next few days, but I can't wait to come back and add more info. Jdavidb 15:38, 8 Mar 2004 (UTC)
I left a question on Talk:Ronald Reagan: my understanding is that Reagan was indeed the first divorced man to be president. But if you have other information about Jackson, I'd love to be corrected! - Nunh-huh 20:48, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Yes, I was wrong on that. Misunderstood that it was Jackson's wife who was divorced, not Jackson himself. Jdavidb 19:04, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for the GREAT edits to the American Standard Version article. They have made the article more informative. I agree about the Internet copies. I can't believe the error rate that there is in them! But I guess that it's better than nothing. iHoshie 03:31, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Gilgamesh and/or Fanger, please discuss here what you might know about use of an apostrophe in the possessive of a singular noun already ending in s, specifically the possessive of Jesus. Thanks. Jdavidb 14:34, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Feedback re: removing links to commercial sites. A massive majority of websites are commercial. This is doubly true in areas such as entertainment. Thus it is not inappropriate that Wikipedia links to such sites in general. The crux point is that such an external link should be worthwhile (e.g. it should be the best fan site devoted to Brad Pitt, or whoever). When an anon goes round adding virtually identical links to lots of articles, this criteria is very rarely satisfied and so it is right to remove the links, as you have been doing - I just wanted to point the reason for removal is because they are poor links, not commercial ones. I hope you don't think I am being too petty by labouring this distinction. Pcb21| Pete 20:59, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
I advocate home education for those who want to. Not only is it a great and flexible way of learning, but you get to go to places, follow your interests, and make friends all over the country and abroad.
I am quite interested in how your wife got on in later years of home education. Did she go to college and/or university or did she go and get a job? -- Spe88 18:14, 1 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Okay,David if that is not the method and purpose of the bible what is it? Put answer in Bible discussion. Remember no personal opinon.
Charlie
Jdavidb 15:26, 26 Aug 2004 (UTC)
Thanks David, I'm not that interested in the subject. Just how would you define it to someone who had never heard of it before? Wikipedia is too much of a popularity contest and lack of expertise. I have yet too run into good professional biblical scholarship. But I have certainly come across a lot of suspicion and paranoia. I have often wondered how Galileo would have fared on here. Not to well, me thinks. Thanks for your kind words.
Charlie Turek charlesturek@comcast.net
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 2000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
OR
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man ( comment| talk)
I don't understand why the use of this phrase is not NPOV. -- Eleassar777 21:56, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Please carry this discussion to the talk page of Pope John Paul II. I will explain here, but we need to reach consensus there. (Unfortunately the discussion was just archived, so we may need to start it again.)
Basically it is not NPOV because there are a number of Protestants who do not believe that Peter could even have any legitimate successors. Some have stated in the discussion that the dispute is only over the extent of his powers, but I don't think they have the whole picture of Protestantism. There are many who don't believe Peter could be succeeded, and there are probably some who believe he could but who don't believe the Pope is a legitimate successor. This doesn't even get into Eastern Orthodox -- I don't know if they accept him as a "successor of Peter" or not. (I think they probably do.)
Let's talk there for consensus and compromise. Maybe we can say, "26Nth successor of Peter, to the Roman Catholic Church." Jdavidb 22:02, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I think definitely. It's got good pictures, very thorough, NPOV, etc. Jdavidb 13:21, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
I'm curious what you view is on NCdave's RFC. You and I bumped heads on the Terri article about the Terri-in-disabled-state photo and you showed me an angle I hadn't considered... We reached an agreement, and I felt that the result was better than what I could have done on my own. I haven't been recently editing that article, because there was just too much pressure from users who seem to refuse to behave as reasonably as you did. ... and checking in, it seems to be getting worse now that the matter has hit the Terri blogs. **sigh** In any case, thanks for being a grade A wikipedian. :) -- Gmaxwell 05:27, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Jdavidb, I hesitate to jump into such troubled waters, but I feel obliged to offer my comments on some of your recent contributions. I am doing this because I believe you are commited to NPOV (your treaty comments were very well put), and hope that you will be big enough to accept these remarks in the spirit with which they are intended. I have observed your use of terms like "anti-Terri" and "pro-Terri" to refer to those with POVs supportive of Michael Schiavo and the Schindlers respectively. Given that Michael alleges (and the courts have, at least to some extent, agreed) that he has enacted Terri's wishes, I'm asking you to give some consideration to whether these terms are appropriately NPOV. I realise that you're using them in talk (and off Wikipedia), not in articles, but I hope that you can see how people may find these terms pejorative amd inflamatory, and consequently doubt your commitment to NPOV. Bovlb 04:26, 2005 Apr 14 (UTC)
Hello. Since you were part of an earlier discussion on the name of this page, could you take a look at it again? This page was originally at Yogurt but some time ago it was moved to Yoghurt (where it is now). There is a request on WP:RM to move it back, and I think the policies say it should be, but that is being disputed. Regards. Jonathunder 16:53, 2005 May 12 (UTC)
Thanks for taking the time to get rid of link spam. Ive removed a lot myself in the past. If you ever need support on somthing, over a dispute or whatever, let me know. There have been cases where I clean up an articles external link section ( Literature comes to mind) and ive removed dozens of links leaving just a few, all of them self-serving advertising. It would be good if Wikipedia had a better policy for external links, such as requireing an explanation on why its relevant to the article is one thought. Stbalbach 16:26, 13 July 2005 (UTC) reply
I agree wholeheartedly with your attitude to linkspam. You have summarised its characteristics very well your page dedicated to the topic. I have seen (and reverted) enough of it in my time to know. Cheers -- PhilipO 23:44, September 8, 2005 (UTC)
Hey David, I just thought that Restorationism is one article you may want to look at. I've done some minor stuff to it, but it needs a little more work. Carltonh 23:13, 15 July 2005 (UTC) reply
They're high quality articles from an encyclopedic source, and on topic. I'm inclined to keep most of them. Jayjg (talk) 18:57, 29 July 2005 (UTC) reply
From User:AFethke, moved from my user page:
Well it may be generally acceped, but I don't and it is my page, thank you very much! Play police somewhere else.
11:16, 3 August 2005
I notice you've been removing this category from various roguelikes, some of which I probably added myself - apologies if that was inappropriate.
In my experience the phrase "open source" is regularly used in two quite distinct manners, one being the strict sense promoted by FSF, and the other more vernacular sense of "you can download the source code and compile it if you want".
It is additionally confusing that Category:open source claims to be in the process of deferring to Category:Free software, but I haven't yet found the discussions that led to that. However presumably there must still be a category that does catch the "you can download ..." sense where the stricter sense doesn't apply, and I don't know of a name to call it other than "open source" - do you know of such a category? Hv 02:29, 29 August 2005 (UTC) reply
JDavid,
I left you a note on the homeschool article talk page and then I went to my talk page and read your welcome and comments about how to do things. I think I made some more mistakes(didn't put the post at the bottom, didn't use the~~(okay, I just found that little mark on my computer keyboard. You're right, I should figure out how this works before posting again. I'll read the articles you recommended. Thanks for being understanding.~~Linda Kelley~~ Did I do that right?
Can I ask you to consider, on the category talk page, whether this is really an appropriate Wikipedia category? DJ Clayworth 16:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC) reply
I support the project wholeheartedly. Part of the problem I see is that the ambiguity in Wikipedia:Spam, and even Wikipedia:Cite sources and Wikipedia:Reliable sources provides a means for spammers to (intentionally or not) game the system. Unfortunately, I have to tell you that I'm going to be on an indefinite WikiBreak soon. After this weekend, I'll be gone, but I'll probably make an appearance next weekend if I can. Anyway, for what it's worth, I'll sign on. Tell me i there's anything you want my help with this weekend. And I suggest that you publicize/ask for comment on the Village Pump, see what happens. Sorry that I can't do more than that, but this is a Good Thing to do! Dmcdevit· t 21:55, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Would you mind directly signing the consensus statement with ~~~~? The user is currently complaining about his block. Add something stronger if you like. - Taxman Talk 19:38, 16 September 2005 (UTC) reply
Hi, Jdavidb, we don't often edit the same articles, but anytime I've been on one of the pages you were active at, I could see that you care a lot about NPOV. If you have time, and if this doesn't clash too much with your main interests, could you have a quick look at Bernard Cardinal Law. I found what I considered to be clear NPOV violations (e.g. "the infamous Cardinal Law" . . . "Law's name has become known nationwide for his scandalous behavior in the Church, and he is arguably recognized as the most corrupt official the Roman Catholic Church has had in centuries"), and I removed them as well as doing a little bit of rewording. The editor who had put them in reverted me with an edit summary "rv false pov claims by Ann Heneghan". I reverted again, objecting again to the use of the word "infamous". The editor reverted me, but then voluntarily removed "infamous", though leaving the other changes.
Because I'm a Catholic, I'm not necessarily the best person to have a clear idea on NPOV for this article. I have a strong sense of outrage at Cardinal Law's reassignment of offending priests. I also have a strong wish not to have the Church in general appear in a bad light. (I have heard that Pope John Paul was never made aware of the Law situation, though obviously people who don't want to believe that won't believe it.) I think I'm going to stay away from that article for the moment. It might be good if someone who isn't Catholic or anti-Catholic took a look at it, solely for the purpose of making it NPOV. I promise it wouldn't be as time-consuming as getting involved in Terri Schiavo! Thanks.
By the way, I like the photo of the baby! Ann Heneghan (talk) 15:23, 22 September 2005 (UTC) reply
Hi; I just wanted to take a moment to say first, congratulations on the marriage! Looking at the data, it looks like your honeymoon was right about two weeks long :) Second, congratulations on your new boy! I've got little ones of my own (youngest less than a year). Editing Wikipedia is difficult with a writhing little infant on your lap :)
For what it's worth; I really think you'd make a good admin, if only you had more exposure to admin-esque areas of the pedia. That's my only strong hesitancy. I think your RfA is going to pass with flying colors. But, if it doesn't (and even if it does) please spend a bit more time in areas other than the article and user namespaces. I think your contributions would be most welcome in those areas in addition to your work in the above two namespaces. All the best, -- Durin 22:49, 22 September 2005 (UTC) reply
Please go here and express your opinion on whether Category:Handbook of Texas citations should be deleted. As a Wikipedian in Texas, your opinion on this topic is particularly valuable. 66.167.253.162 17:31, 26 September 2005 (UTC). reply