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It would seem signiicant as this is the first time an un - enrolemnt has been effected by executive federal governmentpressure rather than according to democratic rule of law? Perhaps the inclusion of more information is need to highlight it s significance. Essentailly this ation goes agasint the Austrlian constituional prohabition on civil conscription. It is a pivitol momnet, in the University of Sydney, and perhaps Australia as a nation where the purported centre of free thought, sucumbs to the ideological and polical designs of the federal executive government in opposition to parlimentry/constituional rule of law, representation. The department of health and ageing was sunsequentlhy taken to the Adminstraive appeals tribunal where it put on the public recird that it was not upholding any law in its request to the UNiversity to have this student unerolled. Yet the federal government is a limtied powers government. Accordingly it is acitng agaisnt rule of law, upon the rights of citzens in a central ore of Austrlian society, sydney uni, and the university is being co-opted agiasnt the citizens. This is relevant becuase it identifes a turning point as Austrlians are denied their tax HECS/medicare services in direct apposition to democratic rule of law uer the constituion. The Unversity is stepping in to the real of federal parliment, at the behest of the executive federal government.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by JUBALCAIN ( talk • contribs) 03:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
You can be licened and in fact are licenced after you registration year, by the state power eg NSW. For Access to the commonweaalth rebate it iis a necesarry but not suficent requirment to be leicenced (the wor is reigsiterd, wit hte stae medical board, licenced is an american term). Once you are registered with your medical board then you need to be reconsied by some specialty colledge. After this if you may apply for a provider number, but if the practioner is in breach of a contraact with theCommonwelth then they cannot get a provider number for typically 12 years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JUBALCAIN ( talk • contribs) 04:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC).
This is not soap box material, is is all factually based and refeernce to legislation is given. That section the contractrs scheme and deffects and high court case are both lawfyul and factual —The preceding
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JUBALCAIN (
talk •
contribs) 23:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
You are categorically wrong, it is the very essence of medicare, without rebates, thier is no medicare system tahts it end of medicare, all you are left with is a load of usless plastic cards. This is the very centre of medicare, every single service under medicare attracts a rebate, only available if a servce provider has a provider number
. Proof, if *no* provider numbers were issued, medicare cards would be uterly useless.
It may be complex to grasp, but this does not mean it is confusing, merely it takes familarity with the basal issues. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{2}}}|{{{2}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{2}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{2}}}|contribs]]) 11:54, 22 January 2007 JUBALCAIN (UTC)
Ok they issue herer, is you offer no support for your assertion that it is a particualr problem. as opposed to the seence of medicare. the assertion / NPOv of the articel is that medicare only covers those who have a card and have a service from a Dr with a provider number. tot his end this effects every doccor as it was changed in 199* (8) from all doctors are issued uon registration, to only doctors with a extra reconsied specialty training. This changed a gaion in 2001 to excxlude all bonded students, and also all forein doctors face a 10 year moritorium. This is how the unversalism of medicare has been erroded. You need to suport your asertions by reasoned argument. It is insufficent to mererly state "this in POV" or a particualr issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 21:12, 22 January 2007 ( talk • contribs) 211.30.207.27. JPD ( talk) 11:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
no joke -- TurnstileOppopsition 18:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I also placed the tag on the village article because the way it read made be think another article already existed, and there didn't seem to be much context, but I will be more careful in the future.
Regarding the other one, last time I checked I thought deletion was appealed against by adding "hang on", or if it was a prod, by actually solving the problem with the article. The user in question did not alter the article in any way when he removed the prod, he merely removed it. I defer to you're better judgement since you called me on it. Thanks, SGGH 16:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
So why did you save this church article from speedy deletion in order to AfD it? The hangon tag keeps it on the list for speedy delete consideration (and I was watching to speedy delete if no content turned up). See WP:CSD: no notability so eligible. Now we have a longer process. Not that I mind, just puzzled. -- BozMo talk 16:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I assert that I am commons:User:JPD JPD ( talk) 17:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
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I am so sorry. I forget sometimes that there are different spellings. Thank you for pointing this out. Have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08
15:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I will, and thank you for being so nice about all this. I am still pretty new, so I'm still learning. Thanks again!
Saber girl08
15:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and a quick question if it's ok...is programme the same as program? I am stumbling across it a lot, and I don't want to cause more work for people if I'm correcting a word that doesn't need to be corrected. If you could tell me, I'd be very thankful. Thank you again, and have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08
16:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that helped. Thank you! I guess I should go back and fix where I edited it. Thank you again for all your help. Have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08
16:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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I felt HI and KA links in NSW had been defaced. Thortful 11:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your helpful clarification of the status of other wikipedia pages as sources for information in the Bow, London article.
The range of articles associated with the London Borough of Tower Hamlets have fairly well developed history sections but don't say a lot in relation to other aspects of an article about a place and generally do not conform to the wikipedia guideline about how to write about a settlement. I'm trying to address this and bring articles generally up to a better standard so that we might start moving towards getting some of them assessed in relation to standards.
There seems to be some generally held belief that referencing to other wikipedia artiles is in some way OK for referencing purposes - although on the basis of investigation I've done so far it's clear that these have not all been checked as to their adequacy in terms of their referencing on those pages. Your clarification on this point this morning was helpful. Some of the articles have included external links as a section at the bottom of the article but had not attributed these through in-line referencing. As such it's difficult to say what points of information are covered by the external references - where these exist - and those that aren't. It's therefore difficult for any other editor to make links to these. (In any case my time if best devoted to the other areas which are current deficits and where I can help)
I'm trying to tread lightly but the reality is that most of places in Tower Hamlets have articles that need to be marked up as lacking citation - and I have been doing this. This is inevitably causing some concern. In particular, there are now examples on the Spitalfields and Whitechapel articles of one individual remonstrating that the articles are OK and citation mark-up is not required. I've referenced policy and practice and your note on the Talk:Bow, London page to no avail.
I wonder if you could possibly review these two articles and see if you can offer a constructive way forward on this within the context of wikipedia guidelines. In addition, I'm wondering whether some sort of commentary by you on the Talk:London Borough of Tower Hamlets page could act as a reference point on other articles within Tower Hamlets if this kicks off again. But basically any help and advice would be most appreciated. Cosmopolitancats 12:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Is saying 2+2=5 is wrong a point of view?
I've elaborated a bit on the references part. Simply south 11:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Very good point - I have been wandering into some very weird territory (Indonesia, Tasmania, Western Australia usually) and the whole sea of afl categories that have been never claimed for the Oz project - I tend to over tag within the Indonesia project (and tasmania and wa) - where on close examination I have tagged wikiproject pages within the indonesian and australia project pages. If there is any problem please feel free to move - there seem very few eds who even understand the category trees and relationships or who might even venture into the strange inner workings (manfred eicher, and the mock up artists for the current TMNT movei come to mind) - however Longhair appears to have a handle on the issue - we sometimes talk on the matter.. I"ll keep bashing away - but please feel free to put up 'wrong way go back' signs for me and I will gladly take advice! cheers Satu Suro 13:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey JPD, noticed you just deleted Image:WisconsinHighway57atWisconsinHighway96.jpg. However, I can't find that image at Commons ( commons:Image:WisconsinHighway57atWisconsinHighway96.jpg). Is it under a different name? Cheers, – Riana ऋ 15:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Tasmania should not be considered for a relocation of an AFL team. It does not have the financial, population or geographic support. An AFL team in Hobart is also highly unlikely without the support of the Tasmanian Government. The Tasmania Government has made it clear it will only support games based at Aurora Stadium, Launceston. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dwuu ( talk • contribs) 00:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you!!! That's exactly what I had in mind. Wiki Townsvillia n 03:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I apologize for making a weak argument for my point however. I did not pull the information that i said from thin air. I was going to quote the CNN report about this topic. I apologize for making you fix it it probably was stated incorrectly. By the way thank you for the link i am in the process of changing my user name now —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Commiessuck ( talk • contribs) 15:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC).
This file is an archive - please do not add new discussion here - add it to my Talk page
It would seem signiicant as this is the first time an un - enrolemnt has been effected by executive federal governmentpressure rather than according to democratic rule of law? Perhaps the inclusion of more information is need to highlight it s significance. Essentailly this ation goes agasint the Austrlian constituional prohabition on civil conscription. It is a pivitol momnet, in the University of Sydney, and perhaps Australia as a nation where the purported centre of free thought, sucumbs to the ideological and polical designs of the federal executive government in opposition to parlimentry/constituional rule of law, representation. The department of health and ageing was sunsequentlhy taken to the Adminstraive appeals tribunal where it put on the public recird that it was not upholding any law in its request to the UNiversity to have this student unerolled. Yet the federal government is a limtied powers government. Accordingly it is acitng agaisnt rule of law, upon the rights of citzens in a central ore of Austrlian society, sydney uni, and the university is being co-opted agiasnt the citizens. This is relevant becuase it identifes a turning point as Austrlians are denied their tax HECS/medicare services in direct apposition to democratic rule of law uer the constituion. The Unversity is stepping in to the real of federal parliment, at the behest of the executive federal government.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by JUBALCAIN ( talk • contribs) 03:28, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
You can be licened and in fact are licenced after you registration year, by the state power eg NSW. For Access to the commonweaalth rebate it iis a necesarry but not suficent requirment to be leicenced (the wor is reigsiterd, wit hte stae medical board, licenced is an american term). Once you are registered with your medical board then you need to be reconsied by some specialty colledge. After this if you may apply for a provider number, but if the practioner is in breach of a contraact with theCommonwelth then they cannot get a provider number for typically 12 years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JUBALCAIN ( talk • contribs) 04:34, 20 January 2007 (UTC).
This is not soap box material, is is all factually based and refeernce to legislation is given. That section the contractrs scheme and deffects and high court case are both lawfyul and factual —The preceding
unsigned comment was added by
JUBALCAIN (
talk •
contribs) 23:03, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
You are categorically wrong, it is the very essence of medicare, without rebates, thier is no medicare system tahts it end of medicare, all you are left with is a load of usless plastic cards. This is the very centre of medicare, every single service under medicare attracts a rebate, only available if a servce provider has a provider number
. Proof, if *no* provider numbers were issued, medicare cards would be uterly useless.
It may be complex to grasp, but this does not mean it is confusing, merely it takes familarity with the basal issues. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by [[User:{{{2}}}|{{{2}}}]] ([[User talk:{{{2}}}|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/{{{2}}}|contribs]]) 11:54, 22 January 2007 JUBALCAIN (UTC)
Ok they issue herer, is you offer no support for your assertion that it is a particualr problem. as opposed to the seence of medicare. the assertion / NPOv of the articel is that medicare only covers those who have a card and have a service from a Dr with a provider number. tot his end this effects every doccor as it was changed in 199* (8) from all doctors are issued uon registration, to only doctors with a extra reconsied specialty training. This changed a gaion in 2001 to excxlude all bonded students, and also all forein doctors face a 10 year moritorium. This is how the unversalism of medicare has been erroded. You need to suport your asertions by reasoned argument. It is insufficent to mererly state "this in POV" or a particualr issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 21:12, 22 January 2007 ( talk • contribs) 211.30.207.27. JPD ( talk) 11:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
no joke -- TurnstileOppopsition 18:36, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
I also placed the tag on the village article because the way it read made be think another article already existed, and there didn't seem to be much context, but I will be more careful in the future.
Regarding the other one, last time I checked I thought deletion was appealed against by adding "hang on", or if it was a prod, by actually solving the problem with the article. The user in question did not alter the article in any way when he removed the prod, he merely removed it. I defer to you're better judgement since you called me on it. Thanks, SGGH 16:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
So why did you save this church article from speedy deletion in order to AfD it? The hangon tag keeps it on the list for speedy delete consideration (and I was watching to speedy delete if no content turned up). See WP:CSD: no notability so eligible. Now we have a longer process. Not that I mind, just puzzled. -- BozMo talk 16:32, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
I assert that I am commons:User:JPD JPD ( talk) 17:22, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Hi there, I am a research student from the National University of Singapore and I wish to invite you to do an online survey about Wikipedia. To compensate you for your time, I am offering a reward of USD$10, either to you or as a donation to the Wikimedia Foundation. For more information, please go to the research home page. Thank you. -- WikiInquirer 23:56, 3 March 2007 (UTC) talk to me
I am so sorry. I forget sometimes that there are different spellings. Thank you for pointing this out. Have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08
15:42, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I will, and thank you for being so nice about all this. I am still pretty new, so I'm still learning. Thanks again!
Saber girl08
15:57, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Oh, and a quick question if it's ok...is programme the same as program? I am stumbling across it a lot, and I don't want to cause more work for people if I'm correcting a word that doesn't need to be corrected. If you could tell me, I'd be very thankful. Thank you again, and have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08
16:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that helped. Thank you! I guess I should go back and fix where I edited it. Thank you again for all your help. Have a wonderful day!
Saber girl08
16:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Saber girl08 has smiled at you! Smiles promote
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Saber girl08 12:25, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Your recent edit to Football ( diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // MartinBot 15:58, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
I felt HI and KA links in NSW had been defaced. Thortful 11:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
Thank you for your helpful clarification of the status of other wikipedia pages as sources for information in the Bow, London article.
The range of articles associated with the London Borough of Tower Hamlets have fairly well developed history sections but don't say a lot in relation to other aspects of an article about a place and generally do not conform to the wikipedia guideline about how to write about a settlement. I'm trying to address this and bring articles generally up to a better standard so that we might start moving towards getting some of them assessed in relation to standards.
There seems to be some generally held belief that referencing to other wikipedia artiles is in some way OK for referencing purposes - although on the basis of investigation I've done so far it's clear that these have not all been checked as to their adequacy in terms of their referencing on those pages. Your clarification on this point this morning was helpful. Some of the articles have included external links as a section at the bottom of the article but had not attributed these through in-line referencing. As such it's difficult to say what points of information are covered by the external references - where these exist - and those that aren't. It's therefore difficult for any other editor to make links to these. (In any case my time if best devoted to the other areas which are current deficits and where I can help)
I'm trying to tread lightly but the reality is that most of places in Tower Hamlets have articles that need to be marked up as lacking citation - and I have been doing this. This is inevitably causing some concern. In particular, there are now examples on the Spitalfields and Whitechapel articles of one individual remonstrating that the articles are OK and citation mark-up is not required. I've referenced policy and practice and your note on the Talk:Bow, London page to no avail.
I wonder if you could possibly review these two articles and see if you can offer a constructive way forward on this within the context of wikipedia guidelines. In addition, I'm wondering whether some sort of commentary by you on the Talk:London Borough of Tower Hamlets page could act as a reference point on other articles within Tower Hamlets if this kicks off again. But basically any help and advice would be most appreciated. Cosmopolitancats 12:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Is saying 2+2=5 is wrong a point of view?
I've elaborated a bit on the references part. Simply south 11:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
Very good point - I have been wandering into some very weird territory (Indonesia, Tasmania, Western Australia usually) and the whole sea of afl categories that have been never claimed for the Oz project - I tend to over tag within the Indonesia project (and tasmania and wa) - where on close examination I have tagged wikiproject pages within the indonesian and australia project pages. If there is any problem please feel free to move - there seem very few eds who even understand the category trees and relationships or who might even venture into the strange inner workings (manfred eicher, and the mock up artists for the current TMNT movei come to mind) - however Longhair appears to have a handle on the issue - we sometimes talk on the matter.. I"ll keep bashing away - but please feel free to put up 'wrong way go back' signs for me and I will gladly take advice! cheers Satu Suro 13:48, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Hey JPD, noticed you just deleted Image:WisconsinHighway57atWisconsinHighway96.jpg. However, I can't find that image at Commons ( commons:Image:WisconsinHighway57atWisconsinHighway96.jpg). Is it under a different name? Cheers, – Riana ऋ 15:28, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Tasmania should not be considered for a relocation of an AFL team. It does not have the financial, population or geographic support. An AFL team in Hobart is also highly unlikely without the support of the Tasmanian Government. The Tasmania Government has made it clear it will only support games based at Aurora Stadium, Launceston. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dwuu ( talk • contribs) 00:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Thank you!!! That's exactly what I had in mind. Wiki Townsvillia n 03:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
I apologize for making a weak argument for my point however. I did not pull the information that i said from thin air. I was going to quote the CNN report about this topic. I apologize for making you fix it it probably was stated incorrectly. By the way thank you for the link i am in the process of changing my user name now —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Commiessuck ( talk • contribs) 15:15, 10 May 2007 (UTC).