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Hi! Were looking for a few people to help spread the message. If your experienced with AWB or running a bot, let us know here.
Well, basically... spread the message. This is the first phase in removing inappropriate YouTube links from wikipedia. It should also have the side-effect of raising awareness about linking to copy-vio sites in general. In the long term this message spreading should have a very positive impact on wikipedia.
The spam message can be found at: User:J.smith/YT and is easy to subst.
== YouTube Links == {{subst::User:J.smith/YT}} ~~~~
When you start editing on a letter add the following to the top:
'''Status:''' Open
That will help keep us from overlapping work.
After you complete a letter change "Open" to "Finished"
Add your name here if you plan on helping
If you followed this link and you want to find out if the link to YouTube in your article is OK, one of the experts who watch this page will review it for you.
I'm happy to help. I think I would be more useful actually checking/removing the links, as I don't have AWB anyway. I'm sure there's articles that aren't being watched, that need to be checked by someone. So if that's OK, count me in.
Maybe when the link(s) is removed, the corresponding entry on your front page list could be struckthrough so it's obvious it's been sorted. Any other ideas or if you don't agree with the above, let me know. If not, I'll start doing this, using the above method, tomorrow.
On a different note, I hope YouTube isn't being totally cast aside forever, they're apparently working to remove copywritten material and there is a growing number of broadcasters and copyright owners legitimately sharing their material. I hope that one day Wikipedia be able to link to those, where appropriate, and not have everyone convinced that Youtube links are always evil and must always be removed. — B33R( talk • contribs) 06:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
The link in the Brent Corrigan is to a trailer I created and put up on YouTube. The link neither violates my copyright nor is used as a source, merely as an illustration of a fact, as evidenced by comments and statements on Corrigan / Lockheart's own page. The link to the trailer should be returned to the article. Jodyw1 05:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Uh, videos are primary sources, not OR. Primary sources are OR if they are used to advance a position in an analytic/synthetic argument. The video does not advance any kind of position or argument. I have restored the link. Cindery 04:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Trailer he or she created is a primary source, not original research (and furthermore does not fall under the purview of copyright verification, which is the stated purpose of your "project.") It seems clear to me per the self-admitted "soapboxing" you posted on your userpage that you have a bias against YouTube links, which are not de facto prohibited under Wiki policy. Wikipedia is WP:NOT the place to enforce your personal biases under the guise of policy, or otherwise. I am going to reinstate the link, and crosspost to NOR. (I also think there should be a little more admin/community oversightof your "project," particularly your template, which sounds "official" but does not actually reiterate Wiki policy in a useful way, but seems designed rather to imply that your opinions/bias are policy, when they are not.) YouTube links can be invaluable resources which greatly enhance the quality of articles (and you seem to have overlooked the value of YouTube as a delivery medium, whereby public domain films can be conveniently made accessible. Under law, a tremendous amount of film is in the public domain.) Cindery 21:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
First of all, administrators aren't special classes of users who can approve/disapprove of a project. (actually, you have the same authority to disapprove of a project.
But lets assume that administrator "oversight" mattered... Dmcdevit has been involved in the project for quite some time now. He helped me setup AWB and has been removing links as well. Dmcdevit is an administrator, a checkuser and a member of the ArbCom. I have chatted with other administrators/editors on IRC a number of times about this project and I have gotten nothing but positive responses.
As for my bias against YouTube... I don't hate Google Inc. or something like that and I have already acknowledged a number of times that occasionally YouTube links are appropriate. It's rare, but I have never claimed it to be different. (re-read my disclaimer and you'll see I never ask anyone to remove them wholesale).
Now, I think I actually think we have good reason to be leery of links to YouTube. Of the 400 links I've reviewed for removal (with AWB) I've only found a handful that should be kept. For example: Weird Al's White And Nerdy video is being linked to from Weird Al's own website, removing any copyright/reliability concerns. The other example that sticks out is a link to a band's official profile on YouTube. But of the 400+ links I've reviewed I've only seen about 10 that fall into the "keep" category and well over 200 were OBVIOUSLY in violation of some-one's copyrights with the rest as a strong possibility. --- J.S ( t| c) 22:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Cindery 00:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Re 99%--your own (highly biased and un-scientific) highest estimate is 90%. The template you have been using gives people the impression that YouTube should not be used, and that is not the case. Just mass-deleting with no notice is even worse. Articles need not be frequently edited for concerned editors to be watching them--that's a specious argument. Disagreements should go to V/C/NOR/and RS, not you. the problem with how you're conducting this project is that you're wrongfully giving people the impression that Wiki has a no-YouTube 99% of the time policy, and that is not the case; and you are wrongfully giving objectors (who own copyright!) the impression that they can only appeal to you. You are exaggerating the copyvio situation--there is not a panic or hysteria; any objectors who believe their copyright is being violated have clear redress to both YouTube and Wikipedia. What I am saying to you is that you don't need to exaggerate, go overboard, claim that 99% of the links shouldn't be used/imply YouTube should never be used/try to aggressively get rid of all YouTube links, or be rude or autocratic to people with rightful objections; try to bully them. I think the thing to do is not RFC, but to post notice on all the policy boards to attract attention to your project. A new template should be designed, that isn't as biased against YouTube as a source, and which directs people to policy boards if you delete links and they object and the discussion on the talkpage of the article doesn't resolve things. Cindery 05:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
..yes, 99%, as we have established, is exaggerating; and simple requests from copyright holders to YouTube or Wikipedia could easily solve any problem--litigation can't even legally begin without a cease and desist notice; there's no need to err so far on the deletionist side. Per ITV, if the link is dead, you should have put "dead link" in edit summary, alerting editors to replace it--not "removing per WP:EL..." I replaced an Imelda Marcos doc clip you removed also. I haven't had much time to review your work, but I have seen enough to know that you're being overzealous. What you keep evading is the criticim that: 1. the template is misleading--whether you have used it in the last week or not, it's up all over the place 2. you shouldn't be mass-deleting without notice--make a new, less biased template 3, your "review" process for objectors is not appropriate RFC is totally nonbinding third opinion--that's not an acceptable solution to these problems. I am going to post on all the policy boards, to get more community/admin oversight/involvement--I think there should be more general awareness about what you are doing and how you are doing it; and I am happy that this dialogue is here now so that people who come to object will see that they can go to policy boards instead. Cindery 08:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
No, Wiki copyright policy is very clearly derived from law, specifically US law: the laws of the state of Florida. Your project, furthermore is clearly not aligned with WP:C, which states:
That means mass-deleting suspected copyright violations without article talkpage discussion/notice and/or reports to the Copyright problems board are not policy. I think all RS/C/V/ and NOR should be updated slightly to address YouTube/clearly explain what the valid exceptions are, how to use and evaluate YouTube links, and how authors can affirm that they license YouTube links under GDFL if they weren't the orginal YouTube publisher (and it should be made clear under NOR that the same author publishing on YouTube and then on Wiki is licensing under GDFL, not automatically OR.) In the mad rush to purge YouTube links, I think there's a serious risk that a lot of good links will be lost, because you're not explaining to anyone how they can affirm GDFL license per the copyright policy, you're just assuming that the content is not/cannot be licensed, based on source bias, and implying that "No-YouTube 99% of the time" is a Wiki policy when it's not. Cindery 09:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Whether it's text, image, or external link doesn't matter--and link is text. Editing Wikipedia is done under "you agree to license your content under GDFL." You don't actually know when you're deleting if the YouTube publisher and the Wiki publisher are the same author--you're making assumptions about GDFL, not queries. Cindery 16:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not applicable case law OR policy. And you should consult a lawyer regarding libel and false accusations of copyvio/accusations without evidence, if you are so concerned with hypothetical liability--wiki has a clear policy on libel and living people. You might want to read up on the "intent" element of intent torts, in general. Cindery 07:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Missouri Constitutional Amendment 2 (2006) has two links which do not sound immediately blatantly illegit, however I would appreciate someone familiar with the site to check them out and see if they should be delinked. Thanx. 68.39.174.238 23:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
B. You shall be solely responsible for your own User Submissions and the consequences of posting or publishing them. In connection with User Submissions, you affirm, represent, and/or warrant that: (i) you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize YouTube to use all patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service; and (ii) you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service. For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The foregoing license granted by you terminates once you remove or delete a User Submission from the YouTube Website.
Since most recently-created works are copyrighted, almost any Wikipedia article which cites its sources will link to copyrighted material. It is not necessary to obtain the permission of a copyright holder before linking to copyrighted material -- just as an author of a book does not need permission to cite someone else's work in their bibliography. Likewise, Wikipedia is not restricted to linking only to GFDL-free or open-source content.
If you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, please don't link to that copy of the work. Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States ( Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry) [2].
Also, linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on Wikipedia and its editors. If the site in question is making fair use of the material, linking is fine.
Simply linking an article to YouTube content does not infringe on any violation of Wikipedia policy unless item linked to is in abuse of someone elses copyright as it relates to non-wikipdedia site. I.e. if YouTube hosts unauthorized copyrighted material that is linked to from wikipedia this is contributory infringement only if orignial work on YouTube is in fact a violation of copyright as it relates to YouTube not Wikipedia. This is not a blanket statement that all content on YouTube is in violation of wikipeida policy that is linked. It is pretty safe to say that any content on YouTube that is a home movie is clearly not violating any laws as it relates to YouTube or original copyright holder as original holder is one who posted content in first place. Now "ripps" of Copyrighted TV shows, movies, news reports, etc are in violation of copyright. Can you give me a user created video on YouTube that breaks copyright law as it relates to YouTube?
YouTube/Google Copyright And You... Hackajar 05:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
“ | OVERVIEW: Plaintiffs moved for preliminary injunction. Plaintiff claimed that unless a preliminary injunction issued, defendants would directly infringe and contribute to the infringement of its copyright. Plaintiff owned a valid copyright on the material defendants posted on their website. Plaintiff, at trial, was likely to establish that those who have posted the material on three websites were directly infringing plaintiff's copyright. Those who browse any of three infringing websites were infringing plaintiff's copyright by making a copy of the material. Defendants actively encouraged the infringement of plaintiff's copyright. Plaintiff had demonstrated a likelihood of success on the merits and there was a presumption of injury. In addition, plaintiff would suffer immediate and real irreparable harm if defendants were permitted to post the copyrighted material or to knowingly induce, cause or materially contribute to the infringement of plaintiff's copyright by others. On that basis, the court granted plaintiff's motion for preliminary injunction. | ” |
“ | OUTCOME: Preliminary injunction granted for plaintiff. Defendants ordered to remove from website material alleged to infringe copyright; ordered not to reproduce or distribute verbatim material alleged to infringe copyright; ordered to remove from website addresses to websites that defendants knew, or had reason to know, contained material alleged to infringe copyright. | ” |
I'm requesting that the BowieChick article be taken off your list. The article has just been cleaned up significantly, and the only You Tube link posted there now is for illustrative purposes only, is not provided as a source, and does not violate copyright. Thanks. x 19:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm also doing a preemptive strike here regarding the article Stevie Ryan. I've provided several You Tube links there, for illustrative purposes only (not promotional); they're not being used as sources, and not violating copyrights. Because Ryan is specifically an online thing, it seems suitable to provide sample links that relate to sections of the article. Thanks again. x 19:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
This page is an archive of past discussions. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page. |
Hi! Were looking for a few people to help spread the message. If your experienced with AWB or running a bot, let us know here.
Well, basically... spread the message. This is the first phase in removing inappropriate YouTube links from wikipedia. It should also have the side-effect of raising awareness about linking to copy-vio sites in general. In the long term this message spreading should have a very positive impact on wikipedia.
The spam message can be found at: User:J.smith/YT and is easy to subst.
== YouTube Links == {{subst::User:J.smith/YT}} ~~~~
When you start editing on a letter add the following to the top:
'''Status:''' Open
That will help keep us from overlapping work.
After you complete a letter change "Open" to "Finished"
Add your name here if you plan on helping
If you followed this link and you want to find out if the link to YouTube in your article is OK, one of the experts who watch this page will review it for you.
I'm happy to help. I think I would be more useful actually checking/removing the links, as I don't have AWB anyway. I'm sure there's articles that aren't being watched, that need to be checked by someone. So if that's OK, count me in.
Maybe when the link(s) is removed, the corresponding entry on your front page list could be struckthrough so it's obvious it's been sorted. Any other ideas or if you don't agree with the above, let me know. If not, I'll start doing this, using the above method, tomorrow.
On a different note, I hope YouTube isn't being totally cast aside forever, they're apparently working to remove copywritten material and there is a growing number of broadcasters and copyright owners legitimately sharing their material. I hope that one day Wikipedia be able to link to those, where appropriate, and not have everyone convinced that Youtube links are always evil and must always be removed. — B33R( talk • contribs) 06:39, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
The link in the Brent Corrigan is to a trailer I created and put up on YouTube. The link neither violates my copyright nor is used as a source, merely as an illustration of a fact, as evidenced by comments and statements on Corrigan / Lockheart's own page. The link to the trailer should be returned to the article. Jodyw1 05:18, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Uh, videos are primary sources, not OR. Primary sources are OR if they are used to advance a position in an analytic/synthetic argument. The video does not advance any kind of position or argument. I have restored the link. Cindery 04:47, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Trailer he or she created is a primary source, not original research (and furthermore does not fall under the purview of copyright verification, which is the stated purpose of your "project.") It seems clear to me per the self-admitted "soapboxing" you posted on your userpage that you have a bias against YouTube links, which are not de facto prohibited under Wiki policy. Wikipedia is WP:NOT the place to enforce your personal biases under the guise of policy, or otherwise. I am going to reinstate the link, and crosspost to NOR. (I also think there should be a little more admin/community oversightof your "project," particularly your template, which sounds "official" but does not actually reiterate Wiki policy in a useful way, but seems designed rather to imply that your opinions/bias are policy, when they are not.) YouTube links can be invaluable resources which greatly enhance the quality of articles (and you seem to have overlooked the value of YouTube as a delivery medium, whereby public domain films can be conveniently made accessible. Under law, a tremendous amount of film is in the public domain.) Cindery 21:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
First of all, administrators aren't special classes of users who can approve/disapprove of a project. (actually, you have the same authority to disapprove of a project.
But lets assume that administrator "oversight" mattered... Dmcdevit has been involved in the project for quite some time now. He helped me setup AWB and has been removing links as well. Dmcdevit is an administrator, a checkuser and a member of the ArbCom. I have chatted with other administrators/editors on IRC a number of times about this project and I have gotten nothing but positive responses.
As for my bias against YouTube... I don't hate Google Inc. or something like that and I have already acknowledged a number of times that occasionally YouTube links are appropriate. It's rare, but I have never claimed it to be different. (re-read my disclaimer and you'll see I never ask anyone to remove them wholesale).
Now, I think I actually think we have good reason to be leery of links to YouTube. Of the 400 links I've reviewed for removal (with AWB) I've only found a handful that should be kept. For example: Weird Al's White And Nerdy video is being linked to from Weird Al's own website, removing any copyright/reliability concerns. The other example that sticks out is a link to a band's official profile on YouTube. But of the 400+ links I've reviewed I've only seen about 10 that fall into the "keep" category and well over 200 were OBVIOUSLY in violation of some-one's copyrights with the rest as a strong possibility. --- J.S ( t| c) 22:30, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Cindery 00:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
Re 99%--your own (highly biased and un-scientific) highest estimate is 90%. The template you have been using gives people the impression that YouTube should not be used, and that is not the case. Just mass-deleting with no notice is even worse. Articles need not be frequently edited for concerned editors to be watching them--that's a specious argument. Disagreements should go to V/C/NOR/and RS, not you. the problem with how you're conducting this project is that you're wrongfully giving people the impression that Wiki has a no-YouTube 99% of the time policy, and that is not the case; and you are wrongfully giving objectors (who own copyright!) the impression that they can only appeal to you. You are exaggerating the copyvio situation--there is not a panic or hysteria; any objectors who believe their copyright is being violated have clear redress to both YouTube and Wikipedia. What I am saying to you is that you don't need to exaggerate, go overboard, claim that 99% of the links shouldn't be used/imply YouTube should never be used/try to aggressively get rid of all YouTube links, or be rude or autocratic to people with rightful objections; try to bully them. I think the thing to do is not RFC, but to post notice on all the policy boards to attract attention to your project. A new template should be designed, that isn't as biased against YouTube as a source, and which directs people to policy boards if you delete links and they object and the discussion on the talkpage of the article doesn't resolve things. Cindery 05:47, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
..yes, 99%, as we have established, is exaggerating; and simple requests from copyright holders to YouTube or Wikipedia could easily solve any problem--litigation can't even legally begin without a cease and desist notice; there's no need to err so far on the deletionist side. Per ITV, if the link is dead, you should have put "dead link" in edit summary, alerting editors to replace it--not "removing per WP:EL..." I replaced an Imelda Marcos doc clip you removed also. I haven't had much time to review your work, but I have seen enough to know that you're being overzealous. What you keep evading is the criticim that: 1. the template is misleading--whether you have used it in the last week or not, it's up all over the place 2. you shouldn't be mass-deleting without notice--make a new, less biased template 3, your "review" process for objectors is not appropriate RFC is totally nonbinding third opinion--that's not an acceptable solution to these problems. I am going to post on all the policy boards, to get more community/admin oversight/involvement--I think there should be more general awareness about what you are doing and how you are doing it; and I am happy that this dialogue is here now so that people who come to object will see that they can go to policy boards instead. Cindery 08:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
No, Wiki copyright policy is very clearly derived from law, specifically US law: the laws of the state of Florida. Your project, furthermore is clearly not aligned with WP:C, which states:
That means mass-deleting suspected copyright violations without article talkpage discussion/notice and/or reports to the Copyright problems board are not policy. I think all RS/C/V/ and NOR should be updated slightly to address YouTube/clearly explain what the valid exceptions are, how to use and evaluate YouTube links, and how authors can affirm that they license YouTube links under GDFL if they weren't the orginal YouTube publisher (and it should be made clear under NOR that the same author publishing on YouTube and then on Wiki is licensing under GDFL, not automatically OR.) In the mad rush to purge YouTube links, I think there's a serious risk that a lot of good links will be lost, because you're not explaining to anyone how they can affirm GDFL license per the copyright policy, you're just assuming that the content is not/cannot be licensed, based on source bias, and implying that "No-YouTube 99% of the time" is a Wiki policy when it's not. Cindery 09:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Whether it's text, image, or external link doesn't matter--and link is text. Editing Wikipedia is done under "you agree to license your content under GDFL." You don't actually know when you're deleting if the YouTube publisher and the Wiki publisher are the same author--you're making assumptions about GDFL, not queries. Cindery 16:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
It's not applicable case law OR policy. And you should consult a lawyer regarding libel and false accusations of copyvio/accusations without evidence, if you are so concerned with hypothetical liability--wiki has a clear policy on libel and living people. You might want to read up on the "intent" element of intent torts, in general. Cindery 07:50, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
Missouri Constitutional Amendment 2 (2006) has two links which do not sound immediately blatantly illegit, however I would appreciate someone familiar with the site to check them out and see if they should be delinked. Thanx. 68.39.174.238 23:35, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
B. You shall be solely responsible for your own User Submissions and the consequences of posting or publishing them. In connection with User Submissions, you affirm, represent, and/or warrant that: (i) you own or have the necessary licenses, rights, consents, and permissions to use and authorize YouTube to use all patent, trademark, trade secret, copyright or other proprietary rights in and to any and all User Submissions to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service; and (ii) you have the written consent, release, and/or permission of each and every identifiable individual person in the User Submission to use the name or likeness of each and every such identifiable individual person to enable inclusion and use of the User Submissions in the manner contemplated by the Website and these Terms of Service. For clarity, you retain all of your ownership rights in your User Submissions. However, by submitting the User Submissions to YouTube, you hereby grant YouTube a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, sublicenseable and transferable license to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display, and perform the User Submissions in connection with the YouTube Website and YouTube's (and its successor's) business, including without limitation for promoting and redistributing part or all of the YouTube Website (and derivative works thereof) in any media formats and through any media channels. You also hereby grant each user of the YouTube Website a non-exclusive license to access your User Submissions through the Website, and to use, reproduce, distribute, prepare derivative works of, display and perform such User Submissions as permitted through the functionality of the Website and under these Terms of Service. The foregoing license granted by you terminates once you remove or delete a User Submission from the YouTube Website.
Since most recently-created works are copyrighted, almost any Wikipedia article which cites its sources will link to copyrighted material. It is not necessary to obtain the permission of a copyright holder before linking to copyrighted material -- just as an author of a book does not need permission to cite someone else's work in their bibliography. Likewise, Wikipedia is not restricted to linking only to GFDL-free or open-source content.
If you know that an external Web site is carrying a work in violation of the creator's copyright, please don't link to that copy of the work. Knowingly and intentionally directing others to a site that violates copyright has been considered a form of contributory infringement in the United States ( Intellectual Reserve v. Utah Lighthouse Ministry) [2].
Also, linking to a page that illegally distributes someone else's work sheds a bad light on Wikipedia and its editors. If the site in question is making fair use of the material, linking is fine.
Simply linking an article to YouTube content does not infringe on any violation of Wikipedia policy unless item linked to is in abuse of someone elses copyright as it relates to non-wikipdedia site. I.e. if YouTube hosts unauthorized copyrighted material that is linked to from wikipedia this is contributory infringement only if orignial work on YouTube is in fact a violation of copyright as it relates to YouTube not Wikipedia. This is not a blanket statement that all content on YouTube is in violation of wikipeida policy that is linked. It is pretty safe to say that any content on YouTube that is a home movie is clearly not violating any laws as it relates to YouTube or original copyright holder as original holder is one who posted content in first place. Now "ripps" of Copyrighted TV shows, movies, news reports, etc are in violation of copyright. Can you give me a user created video on YouTube that breaks copyright law as it relates to YouTube?
YouTube/Google Copyright And You... Hackajar 05:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
“ | OVERVIEW: Plaintiffs moved for preliminary injunction. Plaintiff claimed that unless a preliminary injunction issued, defendants would directly infringe and contribute to the infringement of its copyright. Plaintiff owned a valid copyright on the material defendants posted on their website. Plaintiff, at trial, was likely to establish that those who have posted the material on three websites were directly infringing plaintiff's copyright. Those who browse any of three infringing websites were infringing plaintiff's copyright by making a copy of the material. Defendants actively encouraged the infringement of plaintiff's copyright. Plaintiff had demonstrated a likelihood of success on the merits and there was a presumption of injury. In addition, plaintiff would suffer immediate and real irreparable harm if defendants were permitted to post the copyrighted material or to knowingly induce, cause or materially contribute to the infringement of plaintiff's copyright by others. On that basis, the court granted plaintiff's motion for preliminary injunction. | ” |
“ | OUTCOME: Preliminary injunction granted for plaintiff. Defendants ordered to remove from website material alleged to infringe copyright; ordered not to reproduce or distribute verbatim material alleged to infringe copyright; ordered to remove from website addresses to websites that defendants knew, or had reason to know, contained material alleged to infringe copyright. | ” |
I'm requesting that the BowieChick article be taken off your list. The article has just been cleaned up significantly, and the only You Tube link posted there now is for illustrative purposes only, is not provided as a source, and does not violate copyright. Thanks. x 19:17, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm also doing a preemptive strike here regarding the article Stevie Ryan. I've provided several You Tube links there, for illustrative purposes only (not promotional); they're not being used as sources, and not violating copyrights. Because Ryan is specifically an online thing, it seems suitable to provide sample links that relate to sections of the article. Thanks again. x 19:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)