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Welcome to Wikipedia, Izzygold93, and hope you enjoy your experience as a student editor in your class, and stay on past it to remain as an editor at Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edit at Kathoey. Thanks for working on the article, and adding material, along with a reference, which as you know is one of the core principles of Wikipedia. Unfortunately, I don't think the material quite holds up in this form, and I've added a section to the Kathoey Talk page here about it. But don't fret, feel free to go to the Talk page and comment on why you think that section is relevant, or what can be done to improve it. Article Talk pages are where you go, to discuss with other editors about how to improve an article. Please have a look at the Talk page guidelines to learn how to use them. User talk pages, (like this one), are a little different, and can be a place to leave a specific user (you) a message, like I'm doing now. You can read more about this at the Wikipedia:User pages guideline. Good luck in your course, and once again, welcome! Mathglot ( talk) 23:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Izzygold93,
Please don't remove citations from articles like you did here at Kathoey without a good reason, which should be given in the edit summary if it fits, or on the talk page if it requires longer explanation. Normally, I would just revert your change, but since you simultaneously added a different source, reverting it would remove your source, and I don't want to do that.
If the reason you removed the source was because you saw that the link was dead (it was, when I tried it), the appropriate procedure is not to remove it, but to follow the procedure here: WP:DEADLINK. If you're not sure what to do in a case like that, then just keep the dead link, don't remove the source, and mark the link dead by tagging it with {{ deadlink}} right after the ref in which it appears.
As for what to do now, I think the deleted ref should be restored, unless you have a good reason not to. Rather than do that for you, it would be better if you did it. I'm giving you a jump-start, by reformatting the reference for you, here:
<ref name="Jackson-1996">{{Cite web |last=Jackson |first=Peter A. |title=Non-normative Sex/Gender Categories in the Theravada Buddhist Scriptures |publisher= |date=April 1996 |url=http://rspas.anu.edu.au/papers/pah/theravada.html |deadurl=yes |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080725115630/rspas.anu.edu.au/papers/pah/theravada.html |archive-date=2008-07-25 |accessdate=5 December 2009}}</ref>
All you have to do, is find the spot where it used to be (see the "here" link in the first sentence above) and put it in there, right before the other Peter Jackson reference that you added (so you'll end up with two Jackson refs, back-to-back, which is fine). As this ref now contains an archive link that works, you don't need to tag this ref with {{ dead link}}. (The 'deadurl=yes' inside the ref serves a similar purpose, but only when used in combination with an 'archive-url'.)
By the way, you're doing great with your edits, keep doing what you're doing. Wikipedia is full of policies and guidelines and conventions and habit, and it takes a while to get the hang of it. Don't be afraid of making mistakes, one of WP's policies is to be bold, and there's nothing wrong with trying something and having someone else come around and change it to something else; that's the way it works around here.
Oh, and if you ever have any questions, just add a new section to your talk page, explain what your question is, and add {{HelpMe}}
and someone will come around pretty quickly and answer your question. Try to make your question as brief and as specific as possible, and if it's about a particular article, always
provide a link to the article. If it's about a particular change someone else made, the optimal link to add is a "{{
diff}}" like the one at the top of this section, otherwise just give the article name, Username, and timestamp of their change.
Hope this helps, and perhaps you could share with your classmates the use of {{ deadlink}} and {{ HelpMe}}. Cordially, Mathglot ( talk) 20:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
Jim1138. I noticed that in
this edit to
Kathoey, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an
edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on
my talk page. Thanks.
Jim1138 (
talk)
02:43, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Jim1138: I have only attempted to delete "Activism" because I agreed it should be placed somewhere else. I am not recalling some of these changes being referred to. I do not remember deleting that one citation and when I went to replace it, it was an old version of the page. I am wondering maybe this is why those other sections appeared deleted. Izzygold93 ( talk) 16:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Jim1138: I did not mean to do anything other than deleting the "Activism" section and replacing a citation. I want to work on the "Activism" section more before I place it. Is there something I am possibly doing in the format? Thanks.
Hello, Izzygold93, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Adam and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.
I hope you enjoy editing here. If you haven't already done so, please check out the student training library, which introduces you to editing and Wikipedia's core principles. You may also want to check out the Teahouse, a community of Wikipedia editors dedicated to helping new users. Below are some resources to help you get started editing.
Handouts
|
---|
Additional Resources
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|
If you have any questions, please don't hesitate to contact me on my talk page. Adam (Wiki Ed) ( talk) 23:05, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia, Izzygold93, and hope you enjoy your experience as a student editor in your class, and stay on past it to remain as an editor at Wikipedia. I noticed your recent edit at Kathoey. Thanks for working on the article, and adding material, along with a reference, which as you know is one of the core principles of Wikipedia. Unfortunately, I don't think the material quite holds up in this form, and I've added a section to the Kathoey Talk page here about it. But don't fret, feel free to go to the Talk page and comment on why you think that section is relevant, or what can be done to improve it. Article Talk pages are where you go, to discuss with other editors about how to improve an article. Please have a look at the Talk page guidelines to learn how to use them. User talk pages, (like this one), are a little different, and can be a place to leave a specific user (you) a message, like I'm doing now. You can read more about this at the Wikipedia:User pages guideline. Good luck in your course, and once again, welcome! Mathglot ( talk) 23:55, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
Hi Izzygold93,
Please don't remove citations from articles like you did here at Kathoey without a good reason, which should be given in the edit summary if it fits, or on the talk page if it requires longer explanation. Normally, I would just revert your change, but since you simultaneously added a different source, reverting it would remove your source, and I don't want to do that.
If the reason you removed the source was because you saw that the link was dead (it was, when I tried it), the appropriate procedure is not to remove it, but to follow the procedure here: WP:DEADLINK. If you're not sure what to do in a case like that, then just keep the dead link, don't remove the source, and mark the link dead by tagging it with {{ deadlink}} right after the ref in which it appears.
As for what to do now, I think the deleted ref should be restored, unless you have a good reason not to. Rather than do that for you, it would be better if you did it. I'm giving you a jump-start, by reformatting the reference for you, here:
<ref name="Jackson-1996">{{Cite web |last=Jackson |first=Peter A. |title=Non-normative Sex/Gender Categories in the Theravada Buddhist Scriptures |publisher= |date=April 1996 |url=http://rspas.anu.edu.au/papers/pah/theravada.html |deadurl=yes |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20080725115630/rspas.anu.edu.au/papers/pah/theravada.html |archive-date=2008-07-25 |accessdate=5 December 2009}}</ref>
All you have to do, is find the spot where it used to be (see the "here" link in the first sentence above) and put it in there, right before the other Peter Jackson reference that you added (so you'll end up with two Jackson refs, back-to-back, which is fine). As this ref now contains an archive link that works, you don't need to tag this ref with {{ dead link}}. (The 'deadurl=yes' inside the ref serves a similar purpose, but only when used in combination with an 'archive-url'.)
By the way, you're doing great with your edits, keep doing what you're doing. Wikipedia is full of policies and guidelines and conventions and habit, and it takes a while to get the hang of it. Don't be afraid of making mistakes, one of WP's policies is to be bold, and there's nothing wrong with trying something and having someone else come around and change it to something else; that's the way it works around here.
Oh, and if you ever have any questions, just add a new section to your talk page, explain what your question is, and add {{HelpMe}}
and someone will come around pretty quickly and answer your question. Try to make your question as brief and as specific as possible, and if it's about a particular article, always
provide a link to the article. If it's about a particular change someone else made, the optimal link to add is a "{{
diff}}" like the one at the top of this section, otherwise just give the article name, Username, and timestamp of their change.
Hope this helps, and perhaps you could share with your classmates the use of {{ deadlink}} and {{ HelpMe}}. Cordially, Mathglot ( talk) 20:53, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello, I'm
Jim1138. I noticed that in
this edit to
Kathoey, you removed content without adequately explaining why. In the future, it would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an
edit summary. If this was a mistake, don't worry, the removed content has been restored. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on
my talk page. Thanks.
Jim1138 (
talk)
02:43, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Jim1138: I have only attempted to delete "Activism" because I agreed it should be placed somewhere else. I am not recalling some of these changes being referred to. I do not remember deleting that one citation and when I went to replace it, it was an old version of the page. I am wondering maybe this is why those other sections appeared deleted. Izzygold93 ( talk) 16:50, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
@ Jim1138: I did not mean to do anything other than deleting the "Activism" section and replacing a citation. I want to work on the "Activism" section more before I place it. Is there something I am possibly doing in the format? Thanks.