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Both versions of the article have their merits. The original has lots of useful information for the reader, sourced by the website, etc. It just doesn't establish notability and can't be GA.
In your revision, a couple of sources seem to be reliable secondary sources for notability (and GA): Ghacks.com and Kerner's blog at internet.com. I found another source you could add [1]. These sources seem to have some editorial review, if users can submit articles not everything gets posted, and the editors seem to be experts in their field. This is kind of marginal for a reliable source, but the IT field has maybe moved beyond the journal system for specialized knowledge, and blogs seem to be a main way IT diseminates specialized knowledge. If this article was about automated cow milkers, for example, we would look for articles in "Modern Dairy Farmer", etc. which would have an editorial board.
I have looked at some article for deletion discussions about IT articles, and a few sources like these seem to be enough to make the editors vote to keep the article. So as a practical matter these type of sources work. If you can use at least two sources like this in the article, I'll be statisfied and have no objection to removing the notability banner.
For GA, I think that maybe there just aren't enough reliable secondary sources as of now to provide say half the information, and the article just can't be a GA. Maybe you know better.
So I wouldn't bother paring down information from primary sources, if I were you. Just add information or citations from as many reliable secondary sources as you can to supplement the original article, and that's all we can do. Diderot's dreams (talk) 14:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
For disruption you are blocked for 72 hours. Garion96 (talk) 11:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
{{
unblock|Your reason here}}
below, but you should read our
guide to appealing blocks first.
Magioladitis (
talk) 15:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)Iyeru42 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
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I'm a vandal now, because you won't delete my account. Unblock me so I can destroy stuff.
Decline reason:
We cannot technically or legally delete your account. We can, however, extend your block to the end of time and revoke talk page access, such as what I'm doing right now because of your vow to resume any disruption. Mutes - Jeremy ( v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!) 04:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
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Iyeru's Talk
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User Talk: Archive 1 |
If you wish to discuss something new on my talk page, please use the + button next to the edit button up there. Make sure to include a subject, and please don't create a new subject/discussion unless it's archived. You can see the archives on the right side of this page.
It is suggested you do this to not make a mess of the talk page. If you do not adhere to this, your talk will be edited to include a "dummy" section based on the topic discussed.
Both versions of the article have their merits. The original has lots of useful information for the reader, sourced by the website, etc. It just doesn't establish notability and can't be GA.
In your revision, a couple of sources seem to be reliable secondary sources for notability (and GA): Ghacks.com and Kerner's blog at internet.com. I found another source you could add [1]. These sources seem to have some editorial review, if users can submit articles not everything gets posted, and the editors seem to be experts in their field. This is kind of marginal for a reliable source, but the IT field has maybe moved beyond the journal system for specialized knowledge, and blogs seem to be a main way IT diseminates specialized knowledge. If this article was about automated cow milkers, for example, we would look for articles in "Modern Dairy Farmer", etc. which would have an editorial board.
I have looked at some article for deletion discussions about IT articles, and a few sources like these seem to be enough to make the editors vote to keep the article. So as a practical matter these type of sources work. If you can use at least two sources like this in the article, I'll be statisfied and have no objection to removing the notability banner.
For GA, I think that maybe there just aren't enough reliable secondary sources as of now to provide say half the information, and the article just can't be a GA. Maybe you know better.
So I wouldn't bother paring down information from primary sources, if I were you. Just add information or citations from as many reliable secondary sources as you can to supplement the original article, and that's all we can do. Diderot's dreams (talk) 14:39, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
For disruption you are blocked for 72 hours. Garion96 (talk) 11:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
{{
unblock|Your reason here}}
below, but you should read our
guide to appealing blocks first.
Magioladitis (
talk) 15:15, 31 July 2009 (UTC)Iyeru42 ( block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser ( log))
Request reason:
I'm a vandal now, because you won't delete my account. Unblock me so I can destroy stuff.
Decline reason:
We cannot technically or legally delete your account. We can, however, extend your block to the end of time and revoke talk page access, such as what I'm doing right now because of your vow to resume any disruption. Mutes - Jeremy ( v^_^v Tear him for his bad verses!) 04:40, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{ unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.