Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you are indeed Ian Lustick then I am very pleased to make your acquaintance. However, on Wikipedia we try to follow several rules, among them WP:COI. If you are Dr. Lustick and you see an issue with your biography then we would ask that you note that on the article's talk page along with any verifiable sources for the change. Please let me know if you have any questions; you can reply here or on my talk page. Thanks, nableezy - 21:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, I am indeed Ian Lustick. I only sought to correct certain details that are not politically relevant. For example, it is important for me to be identified as currently an Emeritus professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
- I do not understand what you are asking me to do. I seek my changes are now implemented on the Wiki page. When I click on "talk" am I then supposed to sign in? where do I do that?
- Ian
74.103.133.66 (
talk)
13:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize on behalf of wikipedia for this recent time-wasting bother. Everything is in order. The gist of this issue was resolved 4 years ago. You need do nothing. I.e.
- There is a conflict of interest policy WP:COI.
- In a wiki biography ( WP:BLP) the person covered, if living, should not directly edit their page as best practice.
- But they have a right to note on this page any errors detected in our reportage.
- Since several editors have this page bookmarked, any observation you might make, or any edit of a corrective or elaborative kind you would wish to include can be noted here.
- The editors will then correct the errors, and, verifying with secondary sources ( WP:V) the material suggested for inclusion, will implement the changes. You may give feedback for any slips they make.
- Somewhat tedious, but, in practice, we are fairly quick at fixing things.
- I'll ask @Nableezy, an expert on the technical side, to examine things again, and drop a line here for further clarity, since I am a complete moron in that area (and in many others according to, apparently, a significant minority of editors). A little patience. Regards Nishidani ( talk) 15:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
There are two little errors that should be corrected. I am at the University of Pennsylvania, not Penn State and the word to refer to a Jewish village in a rural area is spelled "shtetl" not "stetl." Ilustick ( talk) 13:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- My apologies. I always pronounce it shtetl, but either haste or incipient dementia has, now not uncommonly, left my edits marred by such orthographic horrors. Penn State is also my fault: my brother studied under McCarg at the University of Pennsylvania and I should not have confused them. Re 'stetl' see our default spelling at Shtetl. Nishidani ( talk) 17:07, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, Nab, I don't think anyone would raise an objection to Dr Lustick's correction/copyediting of such details. The relevant policy adds:
An exception to editing an article about yourself or someone you know is made if the article contains defamation or a serious error that needs to be corrected quickly. If you do make such an edit, please follow it up with an email to WP:OTRS, Wikipedia's volunteer response team, or ask for help on WP:BLPN, our noticeboard for articles about living persons, or the talk page of the article in question
- In my philologist's book, misspellings are serious errors, a principle I hew to under the influence of Karl Kraus who, as I added to his page, thought sloppiness in language, even down to misplaced commas, conduced to the decay of civilization, and political madness. Nishidani ( talk) 17:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Ilustick. We
welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things
you have written about on the page
Ian Lustick, you may have a
conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the
conflict of interest guideline and
FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{ edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know why you posted this here. That precious point was made by Nableezy long ago, indeed over four years ago, and was duly noted by Dr.Lustick. So repeating it is unwelcoming to an infrequent editor of this page. I and one other editor wrote 76% of the material in his biography, and Lustick a mere 5%, consisting in the correction of patent errors such as the confusion over Pensylvania Universities, and the spelling of 'stetl/shtetl'. Those miniscule commonsense corrective tweaks amount to a piddling 5%. There is zero evidence that Lustick is promoting himself. To the contrary, his academic record is such that he hardly needs wikipedia to become notable, being one of the foremost historians in his particular discipline. And the article as we have it gives little indication of the full dimension of his works. he hasn't complained, nor tried to do what is our job. Nishidani ( talk) 21:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. If you are indeed Ian Lustick then I am very pleased to make your acquaintance. However, on Wikipedia we try to follow several rules, among them WP:COI. If you are Dr. Lustick and you see an issue with your biography then we would ask that you note that on the article's talk page along with any verifiable sources for the change. Please let me know if you have any questions; you can reply here or on my talk page. Thanks, nableezy - 21:27, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
- Hello, I am indeed Ian Lustick. I only sought to correct certain details that are not politically relevant. For example, it is important for me to be identified as currently an Emeritus professor at the University of Pennsylvania.
- I do not understand what you are asking me to do. I seek my changes are now implemented on the Wiki page. When I click on "talk" am I then supposed to sign in? where do I do that?
- Ian
74.103.133.66 (
talk)
13:57, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize on behalf of wikipedia for this recent time-wasting bother. Everything is in order. The gist of this issue was resolved 4 years ago. You need do nothing. I.e.
- There is a conflict of interest policy WP:COI.
- In a wiki biography ( WP:BLP) the person covered, if living, should not directly edit their page as best practice.
- But they have a right to note on this page any errors detected in our reportage.
- Since several editors have this page bookmarked, any observation you might make, or any edit of a corrective or elaborative kind you would wish to include can be noted here.
- The editors will then correct the errors, and, verifying with secondary sources ( WP:V) the material suggested for inclusion, will implement the changes. You may give feedback for any slips they make.
- Somewhat tedious, but, in practice, we are fairly quick at fixing things.
- I'll ask @Nableezy, an expert on the technical side, to examine things again, and drop a line here for further clarity, since I am a complete moron in that area (and in many others according to, apparently, a significant minority of editors). A little patience. Regards Nishidani ( talk) 15:10, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
There are two little errors that should be corrected. I am at the University of Pennsylvania, not Penn State and the word to refer to a Jewish village in a rural area is spelled "shtetl" not "stetl." Ilustick ( talk) 13:00, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- My apologies. I always pronounce it shtetl, but either haste or incipient dementia has, now not uncommonly, left my edits marred by such orthographic horrors. Penn State is also my fault: my brother studied under McCarg at the University of Pennsylvania and I should not have confused them. Re 'stetl' see our default spelling at Shtetl. Nishidani ( talk) 17:07, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
- By the way, Nab, I don't think anyone would raise an objection to Dr Lustick's correction/copyediting of such details. The relevant policy adds:
An exception to editing an article about yourself or someone you know is made if the article contains defamation or a serious error that needs to be corrected quickly. If you do make such an edit, please follow it up with an email to WP:OTRS, Wikipedia's volunteer response team, or ask for help on WP:BLPN, our noticeboard for articles about living persons, or the talk page of the article in question
- In my philologist's book, misspellings are serious errors, a principle I hew to under the influence of Karl Kraus who, as I added to his page, thought sloppiness in language, even down to misplaced commas, conduced to the decay of civilization, and political madness. Nishidani ( talk) 17:15, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Ilustick. We
welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things
you have written about on the page
Ian Lustick, you may have a
conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the
conflict of interest guideline and
FAQ for article subjects for more information. We ask that you:
- avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, colleagues, company, organization, clients, or competitors;
- propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the {{ edit COI}} template)—don't forget to give details of reliable sources supporting your suggestions;
- disclose your conflict of interest when discussing affected articles (see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest § How to disclose a COI);
- avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see Wikipedia:Spam § External link spamming);
- do your best to comply with Wikipedia's content policies.
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. DuncanHill ( talk) 21:35, 24 July 2024 (UTC)
- I don't know why you posted this here. That precious point was made by Nableezy long ago, indeed over four years ago, and was duly noted by Dr.Lustick. So repeating it is unwelcoming to an infrequent editor of this page. I and one other editor wrote 76% of the material in his biography, and Lustick a mere 5%, consisting in the correction of patent errors such as the confusion over Pensylvania Universities, and the spelling of 'stetl/shtetl'. Those miniscule commonsense corrective tweaks amount to a piddling 5%. There is zero evidence that Lustick is promoting himself. To the contrary, his academic record is such that he hardly needs wikipedia to become notable, being one of the foremost historians in his particular discipline. And the article as we have it gives little indication of the full dimension of his works. he hasn't complained, nor tried to do what is our job. Nishidani ( talk) 21:55, 24 July 2024 (UTC)