Hello, Ilovelifeandmusic, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Ji Liu (Concert Pianist, Composer), may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.
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Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Ji Liu (Concert Pianist, Composer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Kolbasz ( talk) 12:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
You seem to have great love for music, but not so much experience in following Wikipedia guidelines. Please accept the help in formatting you got. Simply restoring your version without an explanation can get you in trouble. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
As the original creator of this page back in 2014, I have been overseeing all the contributions and edits to the page from time to time over these years. After looked at user Smerus' suggestion of deletion due to breaching wikipedia's notability policy on May 19th, I have once again checked all the information provided on the page deliberately and carefully. In conclusion, I can't agree it at all. All the information provided on this page is correctly quoted with industry's leading websites. Although I admitted that there are much more updated news about this page to be added, such as in the awards sections: it should be updated with news such as the nomination of the best classical artist of the year at London's Global Awards in 2018; 30 under 30 best young classical artists by Apple Music in 2018; Associate of the Royal Academy of Music (ARAM) in recognition of the contribution of the classical music industry in 2019 and etc.; also in the album section, Pure Chopin album is released in 2016, and Fire and Water album is released in 2018 by Classic FM and Decca Records, these will be added shortly by me. My initiate is to leave these information to be added by more professional Wikipedia contributors as they know the best ways to make the Wikipedia society healthy and thriving. But I will add them first so that for users such as Smerus, this lacking of up-to-date information won't confuse him as lacking of notability. After I have carefully reviewed Wikipedia's policy, I don't see any issues this page would breach the issue user Smerus raised, however I am grateful for address this matter as this would help people to contribute and update the information about this page.
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Thank you. Cabayi ( talk) 19:22, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Please do not remove
maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to
Ji Liu (pianist), without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the
edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been
reverted. Thank you.
Cabayi (
talk)
19:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Ilovelifeandmusic. We
welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things
you have written about in the page
Ji Liu (pianist), you may have a
conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the
conflict of interest guideline and
FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Cabayi ( talk) 19:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Please do not cite Wikipedia articles as sources in other articles. Wikipedia is WP:UGC and is not considered a reliable source. Thank you, Cabayi ( talk) 19:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly
harass fellow Wikipedian(s) again, you may be
blocked from editing without further notice. After nearly 6 years editing wikipedia, showing no interest in anything other than
Ji Liu (pianist), you suddenly develop an interest in everything related to Smerus right after he proposes the article for deletion and reports you as a suspected sock puppet. Ihis isn not acceptable behaviour.
Cabayi (
talk)
19:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Cabayi ( talk) for taking your time and give me your kind advice. In regarding to Dr. Conway, I have nothing against him personally as firstly, I don't know him and secondly, I respect his contribution to the wikipedia society. It mighty just be my own feeling, but don't you think his accusation of my account being a sock puppet just because of someone else was editing the page I created was related to the subject, would result a conclusion that I am the same person as all the other users , and that would lead to a speedy deletion of the page is way too explicit and non sense? As one can see, although I created the page in 2014, however I didn't contribute much to the page after that. Plus, DJRafe rewrote the whole page in style of a classical pianist, to whom I am appreciated. Then, all the other contributions the page were updated and made by other Wiki editors. Therefore, I don't see any real conflict of interest, even if I the admin would suspect me having any relationship with Ji Liu. I am barely just a creator of the page in which I find mutual rewarding both of the subject and the public.
Secondly, I don't mean to take any bad intention on Smerus' page. But as he started to accuse me as a sock puppet with the only evidence of me being created only one page, I therefore started to edit his page as my first step into editing and contributing to Wikipedia's society. I have to say that I am too busy to get into the fussy world of editing. However, when the notification alerted me with explicit accusation about me and the page I created, I realised that I should contribute more to this society from now by not only reading articles, but also contributing them. As I learn the lesson from the long-winded discussion with Dr. Conway on here, I should carry on the responsibility in contributing my work on Wikipedia so that people like Dr. Conway wouldn't accuse me as a SPA in the future. Everything has a start, and by the way, thank you for saying and understanding that an apprentice like me on here couldn't be expected to have the professional editing skills as good as Dr. Conway does.
I would heartily accept your advice - and I will carry on learning editing Wikipedia in a more professional way. I would continue not to edit Ji Liu (pianist) page as I had been doing over last 5 years. But, I am confident that I write things in a neutral and non-promotional manner in my last edit a few days ago. However, I would continue to leave this work to other Wikipedia user to contribute to the page as I always do. Maybe one day, you, or even Dr. Conway would be kindly contribute your work to one of the pages I create. With great thanks. And if my words have ever hurt anyone, I apologise. However, I do think good wills make good society, especially during this difficult time globally. Thanks Ilovelifeandmusic ( talk) 02:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Dear Ilovelifeandmusic, in the light of the above, if you would consider deleting your comment made on the talk page of David Conway (music historian) (you are welcome to delete my comment as well) I should be grateful, and that would assist in drawing a line under the whole affair and removing it from the public eye. Best regards- -- Smerus ( talk) 15:44, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Dear Smerus, thanks for getting in touch. I have removed my comment on the talk page of David Conway (music historian) as suggested. I hope our discussion on here didn't bring you much trouble, and I'd apologise for any inconvenience or misunderstand have caused. Any questions, just leave me a message here. Have a nice weekend. Ilovelifeandmusic ( talk) 20:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Ilovelifeandmusic, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of the pages you created, such as Ji Liu (Concert Pianist, Composer), may not conform to some of Wikipedia's guidelines, and may not be retained.
There's a page about creating articles you may want to read called Your first article. If you are stuck, and looking for help, please come to the Teahouse, where experienced Wikipedians can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type {{ help me}} on this page, followed by your question, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Here are a few other good links for newcomers:
I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Wikipedia:Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Kolbasz ( talk) 12:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
If this is the first article that you have created, you may want to read the guide to writing your first article.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Ji Liu (Concert Pianist, Composer) requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be removed without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Kolbasz ( talk) 12:36, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
You seem to have great love for music, but not so much experience in following Wikipedia guidelines. Please accept the help in formatting you got. Simply restoring your version without an explanation can get you in trouble. -- Gerda Arendt ( talk) 18:21, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
As the original creator of this page back in 2014, I have been overseeing all the contributions and edits to the page from time to time over these years. After looked at user Smerus' suggestion of deletion due to breaching wikipedia's notability policy on May 19th, I have once again checked all the information provided on the page deliberately and carefully. In conclusion, I can't agree it at all. All the information provided on this page is correctly quoted with industry's leading websites. Although I admitted that there are much more updated news about this page to be added, such as in the awards sections: it should be updated with news such as the nomination of the best classical artist of the year at London's Global Awards in 2018; 30 under 30 best young classical artists by Apple Music in 2018; Associate of the Royal Academy of Music (ARAM) in recognition of the contribution of the classical music industry in 2019 and etc.; also in the album section, Pure Chopin album is released in 2016, and Fire and Water album is released in 2018 by Classic FM and Decca Records, these will be added shortly by me. My initiate is to leave these information to be added by more professional Wikipedia contributors as they know the best ways to make the Wikipedia society healthy and thriving. But I will add them first so that for users such as Smerus, this lacking of up-to-date information won't confuse him as lacking of notability. After I have carefully reviewed Wikipedia's policy, I don't see any issues this page would breach the issue user Smerus raised, however I am grateful for address this matter as this would help people to contribute and update the information about this page.
Hello and
welcome to Wikipedia. When you add content to
talk pages and Wikipedia pages that have open discussion (but never when editing articles), please be sure to
sign your posts. There are two ways to do this. Either:
This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is necessary to allow other editors to easily see who wrote what and when.
Thank you. Cabayi ( talk) 19:22, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Please do not remove
maintenance templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to
Ji Liu (pianist), without resolving the problem that the template refers to, or giving a valid reason for the removal in the
edit summary. Your removal of this template does not appear constructive, and has been
reverted. Thank you.
Cabayi (
talk)
19:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Hello, Ilovelifeandmusic. We
welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things
you have written about in the page
Ji Liu (pianist), you may have a
conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a conflict of interest may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the
conflict of interest guideline and
FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:
In addition, you are required by the Wikimedia Foundation's terms of use to disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation. See Wikipedia:Paid-contribution disclosure.
Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you. Cabayi ( talk) 19:24, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Please do not cite Wikipedia articles as sources in other articles. Wikipedia is WP:UGC and is not considered a reliable source. Thank you, Cabayi ( talk) 19:35, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
This is your only warning; if you purposefully and blatantly
harass fellow Wikipedian(s) again, you may be
blocked from editing without further notice. After nearly 6 years editing wikipedia, showing no interest in anything other than
Ji Liu (pianist), you suddenly develop an interest in everything related to Smerus right after he proposes the article for deletion and reports you as a suspected sock puppet. Ihis isn not acceptable behaviour.
Cabayi (
talk)
19:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
Thanks Cabayi ( talk) for taking your time and give me your kind advice. In regarding to Dr. Conway, I have nothing against him personally as firstly, I don't know him and secondly, I respect his contribution to the wikipedia society. It mighty just be my own feeling, but don't you think his accusation of my account being a sock puppet just because of someone else was editing the page I created was related to the subject, would result a conclusion that I am the same person as all the other users , and that would lead to a speedy deletion of the page is way too explicit and non sense? As one can see, although I created the page in 2014, however I didn't contribute much to the page after that. Plus, DJRafe rewrote the whole page in style of a classical pianist, to whom I am appreciated. Then, all the other contributions the page were updated and made by other Wiki editors. Therefore, I don't see any real conflict of interest, even if I the admin would suspect me having any relationship with Ji Liu. I am barely just a creator of the page in which I find mutual rewarding both of the subject and the public.
Secondly, I don't mean to take any bad intention on Smerus' page. But as he started to accuse me as a sock puppet with the only evidence of me being created only one page, I therefore started to edit his page as my first step into editing and contributing to Wikipedia's society. I have to say that I am too busy to get into the fussy world of editing. However, when the notification alerted me with explicit accusation about me and the page I created, I realised that I should contribute more to this society from now by not only reading articles, but also contributing them. As I learn the lesson from the long-winded discussion with Dr. Conway on here, I should carry on the responsibility in contributing my work on Wikipedia so that people like Dr. Conway wouldn't accuse me as a SPA in the future. Everything has a start, and by the way, thank you for saying and understanding that an apprentice like me on here couldn't be expected to have the professional editing skills as good as Dr. Conway does.
I would heartily accept your advice - and I will carry on learning editing Wikipedia in a more professional way. I would continue not to edit Ji Liu (pianist) page as I had been doing over last 5 years. But, I am confident that I write things in a neutral and non-promotional manner in my last edit a few days ago. However, I would continue to leave this work to other Wikipedia user to contribute to the page as I always do. Maybe one day, you, or even Dr. Conway would be kindly contribute your work to one of the pages I create. With great thanks. And if my words have ever hurt anyone, I apologise. However, I do think good wills make good society, especially during this difficult time globally. Thanks Ilovelifeandmusic ( talk) 02:48, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Dear Ilovelifeandmusic, in the light of the above, if you would consider deleting your comment made on the talk page of David Conway (music historian) (you are welcome to delete my comment as well) I should be grateful, and that would assist in drawing a line under the whole affair and removing it from the public eye. Best regards- -- Smerus ( talk) 15:44, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
Dear Smerus, thanks for getting in touch. I have removed my comment on the talk page of David Conway (music historian) as suggested. I hope our discussion on here didn't bring you much trouble, and I'd apologise for any inconvenience or misunderstand have caused. Any questions, just leave me a message here. Have a nice weekend. Ilovelifeandmusic ( talk) 20:39, 22 May 2020 (UTC)